You’re right about that, I don’t suffer fools lightly, don’t like it? Don’t be a fool. If you have to redefine the word “started” you’re being a fool. Especially when you’ve already repeatedly said:

I stated that concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far-right fringe groups; a true statement for which you call me a liar several times denying it to be true

Only it’s not. And now you walk back, again… If you’re unsure, go look for where you called me “Crusty Underwear”. Height of maturity, that.

The point was, you guys were blaming this paranoia for Poplawski’s actions, at least Beck’s discussion of it as part of mainstreaming conspriacy theories, and I was saying, the Left did it too not all that long ago. Blame them too.

I’m not sure who this mysterious “left” is you’re referring to here. I suppose one DU post is enough for you, I’d have to see it on at least one or two notable sites to think “the left did it too” or the left was “mainstreaming conspiracy theories”. Who? Can you name any? Or are these just random images from some fever dream you had?

I said ‘these far-right’ fringe groups, meaning the ones we’re talking about right here, right now, Krusty. You know, Richard Poplawski, the subject at hand?

I’m repeating this because I honestly am just baffled by WTF you mean by this. What are “these far-right fringe groups”? Are you talking about stormfront? If so, you might want to hit the google to see when they started, and how they never stopped talking about this stuff, you might be surprised..

You have an f’ing problem, dude. How much can I answer before you get far past the point of being obnoxious. Blaming the Left? No, Crusty, saying the Left partook in these conspiracy theories too, and they (at least the ones from Bush/Cheney) came well before the ones being touted now from Obama, should be included as well as having anything to do with Poplawski’s paranoia that caused him to start shooting at cops. Again, and for the last fucking time, that statement wasn’t meant to mean concentration camp conspiracy theories “started” with the left. Maybe I should’ve used another word besides “started” so as not to avoid confusion, but you were the only who took it to mean started as in the very beginning ever, and I’ve detailed who else thought that, and how I responded. So regardless of how you interpreted the word “started”, even if the Left wasn’t the first to come up with the idea of concentration camps, “started” would not be a lie in that during Bush/Cheny years was when the Left started to come up with these theories. The point was,you guys were blaming this paranoia for Poplawski’s actions, at least Beck’s discussion of it as part of mainstreaming conspriacy theories, and I was saying, the Left did it too not all that long ago. Blame them too.

That’s not weaseling, that’s what I meant. And this whole stupid conversation is over the word “started”, and you were the only one to take it that way. And you never let it go even after I explained it as such that very day.

That’s bizarre, Crusty. An overriding need to be correct.

And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo. The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up. Implicate them too when you send your report to the Pittsburgh DA as to exactly where Poplawski was getting his marching orders.

This was you trying to blame the left, and you’re wrong. That was you bragging about it being a left-wing phenomenon, you can blame it on ignorance, arrogance, or idiocy, but it’s still not true. Concentration camp paranoia began on the right and continues on the right. And you’re still weaseling:

I said ‘these far-right’ fringe groups, meaning the ones we’re talking about right here, right now, Krusty. You know, Richard Poplawski, the subject at hand?

That’s classic weaseling, and you can’t even back that up.

Why if it really matters what nutcase was the ‘very first one’ to peddle the conspiracy that the government, or FEMA, was going to set up concentration camps was a liberal or a conservative, when both sides partook in it, albeit mainly from the far extreme fringes of either? If that was my point, how could it be a boast or an excuse? That ‘ha-ha, someone from your fringes started it, don’t blame the far right loons because they just got it from your loons’. Makes no sense for me to brag about that point, and it made no sense to me that that’s what you were getting at since it wouldn’t follow logic that you were trying to defend the far left fringes.

Are you doing that? Are you saying that no far left fringe kooks would ever be so weird as to start a theory that a government sponsored entity would be building camps so to inter anyone harboring anti-government viewpoints would be rounded up and kept there? That’s not changing the subject; that is what we’re arguing about, isn’t it?

And if I didn’t stick around to duke this pointless point around a few days ago had I known about it, today’s bickering proves why. Huge time-waster.

And you still can’t defend this bit of “weaseling”:

I said ‘these far-right’ fringe groups, meaning the ones we’re talking about right here, right now, Krusty. You know, Richard Poplawski, the subject at hand?

WTF dude. Which groups? Name two. You’re just talking out your ass trying to avoid the subject..

When I replied to you:

“Are f’ing serious, Crusty? Do you honestly think the idea of concentration camps just suddenly appeared in the last six months, and that Glenn Beck just dreamed it up then?”

That proves the intent of my post and my bewilderment at just WTF you were talking about demanding a link and calling me a liar.

Especially when the very next comment, from the poster “P” was this:

“It is true the “FEMA camp” story was around during Bush years (hardly just among “liberals” though, afaik it was mostly popular with libertarian types.)”

If you took exception to what I said, why didn’t you tell “P” what you were talking about then and why you thought it was a lie.

I’d admit a mistake if I made one, but in this case the only mistake was not wording this so that it was unambiguous to even the most thickest of people to understand. And you weaseled your way through this whole thing, just for the sake of playing a gotcha game, which is always the case with people when they yell and scream for a link.

I love it Dennis, whatever you do, don’t admit that you were just making shit up because you liked the sound of it. Where, above your post, were people talking about any specific far-right fringe groups? And you call me a weasel? I called you a liar because you are a liar. I once gave you the benefit of “idiot”, but your continual re-parsing proves you care much more for defending yourself than about the facts.

The fact of the matter is, it wasn’t just the fringe kook Left that was promoting the idea of concentration camps just a few short years ago under Bush/Cheney, so that acting like this is just nuttiness all of a sudden that only fringe right-wing militia types are engaging in is somewhat comical to hear you guys say.

Well, when you claim 15 year old right-wing conspiracy theories come from the left, and insinuate that Glenn Beck got it from the left (maybe he read that one DU post, right?), you’re going to be taken to task for lying/idiocy. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, feel free to STFU. When you’re wrong, feel free to admit it.

Additionally, someone who spits as much pointless vitriol as you do probably shouldn’t be whining quite so much about personal attacks…

Duros, I called you a weasel and laid out exactly why you are one. I’ve always felt bad for you that I had to do it once before when you claimed you had never said Joe Biden was a racist and I provided a quote of you calling him exactly that. I know you’re memory is not all that great and I have compassion for that sort of thing, but when your faulty memory is the source of you attacking me for something you originally backed me up on for obviously knowing the intent of my post, then that is weaseling out of the highest order.

Why do you choose not to respond to that but instead come back with the exact kind of response the CSS would in that case? A weasel response at that?

I said ‘these far-right’ fringe groups, meaning the ones we’re talking about right here, right now, Krusty. You know, Richard Poplawski, the subject at hand? The one liberal blogs are obsessed with all of a sudden. If you didn’t think that’s who I was talking about and not the fringe groups from 30 or 40 years ago, why didn’t you just say that?

And I left this thread because I was at work and went home, and then the thread went off the main page. I didn’t see it again until I saw on the main page the ‘Recent Comments’ where Strowbridge had made a comment. That and it wasn’t worth rehashing. WTF difference does it make. Like I said, I post from work and if you took exception to the post you should have just set the record straight instead of acting like Douchebag Lawrence O’Donnell and yelling “Liar, Liar, Liar, Liar” fifty times and demanding a link.

The fact of the matter is, it wasn’t just the fringe kook Left that was promoting the idea of concentration camps just a few short years ago under Bush/Cheney, so that acting like this is just nuttiness all of a sudden that only fringe right-wing militia types are engaging in is somewhat comical to hear you guys say.

What research? I read the link you provided to the end. Come to find out it didn’t say what you thought it was saying.

And I left this thread because it wasn’t worth the time to go back over the whole conversation to clarify, even if it meant proving what a fucking weasel you were and are.

And yet, here you are doing exactly that.

And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo. The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up. Implicate them too when you send your report to the Pittsburgh DA as to exactly where Poplawski was getting his marching orders.

Care to defend that first sentence? You know, the one which starts the paragraph, some might even call it the thesis sentence of your argument? Which defines the following sentences as referring to the origin of the myth? I’ll be waiting for the next topic change and swivel.

Go back over the thread, Southern Strategy. You were the first one to jump in on the conversation and say “Dennis has no friends”.

I hadn’t addressed you or mentioned you before that. You were the one to go back on your word, your word which never meant anything anyway, and start back in with the personal attacks. You lied to Oliver when you said you would refrain.

That came as no surprise to me because I knew your obsession could not be contained with any sort of an idle promise, no matter what level of sincerity you were trying to display. It just wasn’t possible; you were already too far gone.

Obsessive. Compulsive. Disorder.

You’ve probably had it since childhood.

So the left came up with the idea of FEMA concentration camps used to house political enemies, but not concentration camps used to house political enemies run by other branches of the government. That’s your claim? You are willing to split that hair?

Dennis the Bigot: “You’re a weasel, Duros.”

After splitting hairs like that, you have the guts to call someone else a weasel.

Dennis the Bigot: “Not as big a one as Crusty Dem and C.S. Strowbridge…”

You better get that OCD checked. You seem obsessed with mentioning my name.

Dennis the Bigot: “This proves why it’s a waste of time to provide links when someone here demands them like a little WATB.”

You calling someone else a WATB? Wow. The projection is amazing.

Dennis the Bigot: “calling me a liar like a little schoolgirl”

More sexism from the master.

You bobbed and weaved and weaseled your way through this whole thread, Krusty. You should have just stated that the whole idea started a long time ago. I don’t follow whacked-out paranoid conspiracy theories to know whenever what kook first dreamed them up. And that wasn’t what I was saying, nor what you were implying that was a lie coming from me, because you said everything I said was a lie. And you relied on Duros to go do your research for you before you falsely declared victory. And I left this thread because it wasn’t worth the time to go back over the whole conversation to clarify, even if it meant proving what a fucking weasel you were and are.

You’re a f’ing weasel, Duros. Here was my statement to fafaroo:

“And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo. The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up.”

When I said that the Left started pusing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up, I wasn’t declaring that that was the first time anyone had any paranoia about concentration camps in the United States.

Your first direct to that response was “And back then, you had no problem with that if it meant liberals were gonna go away.”

Your next direct response was after I asked you “Do you honestly think the idea of concentration camps just suddenly appeared in the last six months, and that Glenn Beck just dreamed it up then?”

You replied “No, but yes.”

Your next one was: “To be fair, I was under the impression that the camps were known as Katrina Camps back in the day, in case the darkies rose up.”

So after persistent demands for a link to show the concentration camps idea didn’t just spring up all of a sudden for which Crusty Dem was calling me a liar for, for which I provide, you take it upon yourself to state that the paranoia started way well before even the Clinton years, which wasn’t my point. You had to know what my point was because you agreed that there was paranoia from the Left in the Bush/Cheney years.

You’re a weasel, Duros. Not as big a one as Crusty Dem and C.S. Strowbridge, but right up there. This proves why it’s a waste of time to provide links when someone here demands them like a little WATB. If Krusty wanted to make the point that he took issue with when concentration camp paranoia first originated, a point well established in the text the Oliver posted as the body of his blog post, he should’ve just provided a link or pointed to it at first instead of demanding a link and calling me a liar like a little schoolgirl and demanding a link for something that I thought he was talking about something different. And so did you, Duros, based on your first three responses. Then you had the dishonest gall to state “That was our point all along”. What a douchebag statement.

It doesn’t please me to show what a dishonest poster you are, Duros, but you are.

At this point I think we can safely say he ran away.

Congratulations! You are now fulfilling the Bible which says “Come now, and let us repeat together.”
Be sure to repeat what Walvoord, Lindsey, LaHaye, Ice etc. repeat what their own teachers repeat what their own teachers repeat etc. etc. etc.!
Repeat that Christ’s return is imminent because we’re told to “watch” (Matt. 24, 25) for it. So is the “day of God” (II Pet. 3:12) – which you admit is at least 1000 years ahead – also imminent because we’re told to be “looking for” it?
Also repeat the pretrib myths about the “Jewish wedding stages” and “Jewish feasts” (where’s your “church/Israel dichotomy” now?) even though Christ and Paul knew nothing about a “pretrib stage” and neither did any official theological creed or organized church before 1830!
You should read “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” on the “Powered by Christ Ministries” site to find out why you shouldn’t repeat everything your pretrib teachers repeat.
Do I have to repeat this?

[the above is actually on the web & I just viewed it! Laurel]