Pittsburgh Killer Richard Poplawski Used Glenn Beck Videos
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This last comment was a reference to popular right-wing conspiracy theories about Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)-constructed prisons and concentration camps for U.S. citizens. Such conspiracy theories had long been staples of the militia movement, but received a reinvigorating shot in the arm following the election of Barack Obama as president. Almost overnight, right-wing conspiracists across the country revived all of their 1990s militia conspiracy theories about the “New World Order,” planned gun confiscations, and government plots against the citizenry. Once more, wild speculations about SHTF (“s—t hits the fan”) and TEOTWAKI (“the end of the world as we know it”) scenarios became rampant.
Poplawski bought into the SHTF/TEOTWAKI conspiracy theories hook, line and sinker, even posting a link to Stormfront of a YouTube video featuring talk show host Glenn Beck talking about FEMA camps with Congressman Ron Paul.
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No wonder Glenn Beck is so adamant that he shouldn’t be blamed. He’s got his fingerprints on this one.
how many more police will be killed by the Newscorp and Clear Channel axis of incitement
Allow me to speak for our resident wing-nut anti-American, anti-cop trolls like Jay and Jay and Dennis:
“B-b-b-but, Glenn Beck is just an entertainer!”
Pittsburgh Killer Richard Poplawski Used Glenn Beck Videos
Who could have predicted…?
Shocker.
Cause or effect? Did watching Glenn Beck make him crazy, violent psychopath or was he a crazy, violent psychopath who just happened to find common ground with Glenn Beck? Can we ever know? Really, all we know is that Glenn Beck is the pundit of choice for crazy, violent psychopaths. Maybe we can set up an illegal NSA program that tracks anyone who watches his show regularly..
The only decent thing Glenn Beck can do now is take a few million dollars worth of his blood money and donate it to the families to make the kids have a college fund.
What we can all agree on, wing-nuts and reality-based adults alike, is that the guy makes money off of hysterical demagoguery. And he won’t stop any time soon, but the least he can do is put some of his money where his mouth is.
That’s the big TRUTH with public wackos like Glenn Beck: they are NOT harmless. They are not simply the crazy people in the streets muttering to themselves or wearing looney signs. They are right OUT THERE for millions to see and hear – and thereby can easily attract and sway the psychopathic fringe who can be easily incited to inflict harm on innocent people.
Consequently, unrestricted public incitement under the guise of “news” has become the perfect way to commit assault and murder legally.
But he’s just an American who *sniff sniff* loves his country!
Exactly what does this prove or point to regarding Glenn Beck?
Beck asked Ron Paul about the notion of FEMA camps having any validity and agreed with him that there was no evidence of there being any. They then moved on to another subject. Poplawski being paranoid about SHTF/ITEOTWAWKI conspiracy theories, it’s hard to see a connection between what these two briefly discussed and his making a case that they pointed to anything that backed up his paranoia.
Neither the ADL, John Cole, or Oliver here make any connection.
It was the same thing with the video segment of Beck talking to Wayne LaPierre. Since every liberal blogger now is claiming their intentions are not to stifle free speech, why can they not make a clear and direct connection? Beck just discussing these issues apparently is enough to make an indictment, which is extremely weak. It’s like every lefty blogger has their blood pressure spiked up to above 150/105 and is scrambling to find anything and everything to throw up against the wall, like more is better. Only it’s not.
Cons have blood on their hands again.
Apparently, the truth still stings. Ouch.
…Poplawski being paranoid about SHTF/ITEOTWAWKI conspiracy theories, it’s hard to see a connection between what these two briefly discussed and his making a case that they pointed to anything that backed up his paranoia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsiZdOD5u4
…Beck asked Ron Paul about the notion of FEMA camps having any validity and agreed with him that there was no evidence of there being any.
Dennis, in this video, Ron Paul tells Glenn Beck:
There’s a big difference between saying “There’s no evidence that FEMA is setting up concentration-style camps and it’s crazy to think that they are or ever would” and saying “All the evidence isn’t in yet and we’re investigating because there is justified concern that this might or could happen.”
The latter is most definitely fuel for the paranoid. Look at Beck’s rant about one world government in the clip above and then rewatch Dick Morris telling Fox viewers that people who want to shoot ATF agents “are beginning to have a case” for doing just that.
Fox traffics in end times, apocalyptic paranoia on a regular basis and Beck is one of its primary pushers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKK83QbTwto
Fox traffics in end times, apocalyptic paranoia on a regular basis and Beck is one of its primary pushers. fafaroo
I guess like this last night, that no one decides is important enough to mention on this blog:
Glenn Beck: FEMA camps debunked
And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo. The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up. Implicate them too when you send your report to the Pittsburgh DA as to exactly where Poplawski was getting his marching orders.
And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo. The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up.
Refresh me, Dennis. How many people died from shooting rampages by crazed liberals during the Bush administration?
But Bush/Cheney DID set up a concentration camp. In Cuba. You might even have heard of it.
Wow, Dennnis. That’s great. I’m so glad Glenn Beck took a whole month to really look into this and get to the bottom of it.
We can all rest easy now that FEMA is not setting up a system of concentration camps for Americans.
Because, as you know from watching Beck for the past month, there was reason for concern and suspicions because for a while there all the answers simply weren’t in.
Beck may be one of the most courageous journalists in America for finally going to extra mile to put to rest our greatest fears because we certainly had a lot of reasons to be fearful in the first place.
So Dennis, are you impressed with Beck’s “debunking” of the story? This somehow vindicates Beck in your eyes?
You really think Beck and Fox needed to spend a month asking questions and trying to get to the bottom of this story?
Do you actually believe that this was a responsible way to deal with the subject of FEMA concentration camps?
Really?
OMG! Dennis doesn’t understand!! Let’s add it to the list right between the earth revolving around the sun and how to extract his head from Jay Tea’s ass.
Shocking that Beck, talking about FEMA camps since at least October of last year, chose yesterday to debunk the story he’s been pimping for 6 months. Is that a coincidence??
The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up.
I call bullshit. Link or STFU.
Refresh me, Dennis. How many people died from shooting rampages by crazed liberals during the Bush administration? Repack
So, what’s your point, Repack? That it’s ok for liberals to discuss concentration camps and foster an overall sense of paranoia about what Bush and Cheney are doing because as far as we know to date no crazed liberal went on a shooting rampage? But if a talk show host discusses it now with a Dem President he is responsible for creating a dangerous atmosphere that allowed a far right extremist to suddenly decide to go on his rampage, based on something subtle that talk show host said?
I’m not saying this is true, but for all we know it could’ve easily been left-wing paranoia about his freedoms being taken away that started this guy’s spiral downward in the first place.
No Dennis, Link or STFU. Stop lying or stop talking.
Everything in your last comment is a lie.
This is a 22y/o man who carried out this atrocious act. Why do you feel the need to victimize the perpetrator and place blame on others? Listen to Glenn Beck and you will quickly discover he is a compassionate man, who sincerly wants the best for mankind regardless of ones demographics. It is true he analyzes and articulates the trend toward a growing government encroaching upon individual rights. This in no way advocates nor supports the act commited by “Pop.” The government was designed to prevent foreign and domestic persons and entities from infringing upon our individual rights. I am glad there are people like Glenn out there looking out for my human rights granted to me by God and my individual rights granted to me by the founders of my country. Glenn understands these rights are taken for granted by most and simply researches the issues to ensure a greater percentage of our population is informed to vote based on knowledge, rather than “feelings” and rhetoric. As for Mr. Poplawski and others who commit such atrocious acts, the devil already has your name on his reception list.
Everything in your last comment is a lie. Krusty the Klown
Are f’ing serious, Crusty? Do you honestly think the idea of concentration camps just suddenly appeared in the last six months, and that Glenn Beck just dreamed it up then?
It is true the “FEMA camp” story was around during Bush years (hardly just among “liberals” though, afaik it was mostly popular with libertarian types.)
Interesting how Beck seems to be a bigger influence on this guy than say, Alex Jones.
I’m not saying this is true,
Beck: “I am not saying that Barack Obama is a fascist” (Just before he compares the auto bailout to actions of German companies “in the early days of Adolf Hitler”)
Beck: “Is Barack Obama the anti-Christ?” (He’s not saying Obama is he Antichrist, he’s just asking the question. Oh, and the answer is that Obama’s almost certainly not the Antichrist, but he does display a lot of the same qualities, so it’s obviously worth asking the question.)
More on this particular tactic, also known as using the “Cavuto Mark”:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=117466&title=The-Question-Mark
So, what’s your point, Repack? That it’s ok for liberals to discuss concentration camps and foster an overall sense of paranoia about what Bush and Cheney are doing because as far as we know to date no crazed liberal went on a shooting rampage?
No. But thanks for trying to make me say something other than what I did say.
I made my point in the original post. No one who shot multiple people during the Bush administration was an adherent of liberal conspiracy theories. Several of the recent shooting sprees came at the hands of adherents of conservative conspiracy theories, and that list would also include America’s biggest mass murderer, Tim McVeigh.
Can you show me an equivalent level of violence stemming from a liberal conspiracy theorist?
Can you show me an equivalent level of violence stemming from a liberal conspiracy theorist?
I got this one.
No, he cannot.
I think the FEMA concentration camp BS is a right-wing fever dream from the 90′s. You state as FACT that they come from liberals without a speck of evidence. I repeat, Dennis, link or STFU.
Libruls/Dems/Reality-based Americans are responsible for the “FEMA Camp” meme?
Yeah, you guys need to go back to your transistor radios for a new does of Comrade Rush, k? Stat!
Can you show me an equivalent level of violence stemming from a liberal conspiracy theorist?
I have seen this question asked around a hundred times over the past few days, and I have seen it studiously ignored each time.
As always with Dennis, it all boils down to “Is he an idiot or a liar?”. As usual, the answer is, both.
The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up.
And back then, you had no problem with that if it meant liberals were gonna go away.
Once again, the party of personal responsibility refuses to take it.
I have seen this question asked around a hundred times over the past few days, and I have seen it studiously ignored each time. Parthenon
I’ve seen it addressed here, and other blogs, Parthy, and it’s an exercise in futility What’s the point of getting in to it, though? It’s not the argument here, that your side’s fringes are less dangerous than the right’s. They both suck, and I don’t accuse you for anything they’ve done, or say you enable what they do, or create an environment for any harm they do.
No, he cannot.
And, shocker, he could not.
Do you honestly think the idea of concentration camps just suddenly appeared in the last six months, and that Glenn Beck just dreamed it up then?
No, but yes. I think Glenn Beck is dreaming up a lot of shit to scare the base into doing something stupid. Lo and behold when someone does, it isn’t his fault.
You ain’t gonna win this one, Dense. Stop trying.
And back then, you had no problem with that if it meant liberals were gonna go away.
Once again, the party of personal responsibility refuses to take it. Duros
Your nonsenical point aside, Duros, you didn’t know me then. You don’t even know me now. I like most of the liberals I know. The thought of sending them away to some concentration camp because of their lunacy would bother me if I thought there was any truth to it. I’d rather help them see the light than to see them sent away.
Dennis = Brain Damage
I’d rather help them see the light than to see them sent away.
Well, gosh, Dennis, that must be because you’re such a mensch. You want to help your liberal friends, not imprison, torture, and kill them. How magnanimous of you!
But as menschy as you obviously believe yourself to be, you still were, quite predictably, unable to answer the simple question. Not very menschy of you, Dennis.
Here’s a good quote from one of Dennis’s heroes. This person is playing the same game:
Say, that reminds me, Dennis: You never told us what your Black Friend thinks about Rush Limbaugh.
What light is that, dare I ask?
I think Glenn Beck is dreaming up a lot of shit to scare the base into doing something stupid. Lo and behold when someone does, it isn’t his fault. –Duros
Oh, so then you are accusing Beck of murder? Seems the best and the brightest here have been trying to say that that wasn’t what the Left was trying to get across. I won’t put words in your mouth, Duros, but is that what you are saying, Beck consciously tries to send signals to the Poplawski’s of this country to go out and shoot cops?
Dennis = Brain Damage Jaim Galt
Jaim = Loser at life.
Needs someone to blame.
I like most of the liberals I know. The thought of sending them away to some concentration camp because of their lunacy would bother me if I thought there was any truth to it.
To be fair, I was under the impression that the camps were known as Katrina Camps back in the day, in case the darkies rose up.
s that what you are saying, Beck consciously tries to send signals to the Poplawski’s of this country to go out and shoot cops?
You know what? Yes, that is exactly what I’m saying. Beck isn’t guilty of murder in the first, but he could just as well be named an accessory. Same with the church shooter. Those assholes were on the brink. Fox and friends pushed them over.
Beck isn’t guilty of murder in the first, but he could just as well be named an accessory. Duros62
Ok, and you call me Dense and tell me to give up the argument.
Do you think you will win that argument?
if so, Duros, here, do the right thing
It’s your civic duty.
I won’t put words in your mouth, Duros, but is that what you are saying, Beck consciously tries to send signals to the Poplawski’s of this country to go out and shoot cops?
He’s just asking the question! You know, like “Is Obama more like Hitler or Stalin?” or “Is Obama really a Muslim?” or “Was Obama really born in the United States?”
Oh, and since you couldn’t answer, “Can you show me an equivalent level of violence stemming from a liberal conspiracy theorist?” could you at least answer my simple (repeated) query: What does your Black Friend think about Rush Limbaugh? Thanks in advance, Dennis. I know I can count on you to address a simple question. I mean, it’s not like you want liberals to go to concentration camps or anything.
I’m sure the Pennsylvania law enforcement will do their own investigation, but thanks for your concern.
I’m not out to WIN anything Dennis. It’s my opinion. Beck, Coulter and Limbaugh have blood on their hands. And I’m quite certain there will be more. One of these guys could leave a note saying “Glenn Beck told me to” and you would still deny, defend and justify.
“Can you show me an equivalent level of violence stemming from a liberal conspiracy theorist?”
Sure. Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin. You know, excepting the fact that none of them were, y’know, actually liberal.
One of these guys could leave a note saying “Glenn Beck told me to” and you would still deny, defend and justify. Duros
And it takes just the flimsiest of evidence for you to call someone a murderer.
Seriously, Duros, do you think the Pgh Police are going to question Glenn Beck? Do you think the video above would ever be admitted as evidence in the shooter’s trial; that Glenn Beck talked about and dismissed the idea of concentration camps with a US Congressman, and that set this guy off. Or would you expect them to look at all the videos Oliver scrambled to put on his blog as evidence? That it all started with Barry Goldwater?
And it takes just the flimsiest of evidence for you to call someone a murderer.
I never did that.
Seriously, Duros, do you think the Pgh Police are going to question Glenn Beck?
If that is where their investigation leads them, then yes, I would expect them to.
But I guess they won’t because he’s already made his
excuses.
Do you think the video above would ever be admitted as evidence in the shooter’s trial …
I any half way decent defense attorney would certainly try …
Shorter Dennis: I am unable and/or unwilling to connect any dots. We shouldn’t look into how these shooting deaths could have possibly happened.
Oh Dennis, let’s try to answer one question at a time. Before you try to change the subject again, we have some unfinished business:
Can you show me an equivalent level of violence stemming from a liberal conspiracy theorist?
What does your Black Friend think about Rush Limbaugh?
More shorter Dennis: The Rwanda Genocide was just a bunch of nutcases, end of story.
Even more: Radical fundamentalist Muslim demagogues can’t be blamed in the slightest for their rhetoric. It’s just words.
What does your Black Friend think about Rush Limbaugh? ed
I have no idea who you’re talking about.
You’re a freaking nutjob, ed.
I have no idea who you’re talking about.
Oh you’re pretending to be coy. That’s adorable!
We’re (virtually) talking about inflammatory rhetoric on this thread (just right wing inflammatory rhetoric, for some reason, no similar left wing rhetoric has been brought up despite several pleas for examples). I mentioned one nugget from Mr. Limbaugh (how he doesn’t want to “kill all the Liberals”–oh that Rush!), and it reminded me of a question I had asked you a while back. You said that you don’t believe that Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole. I believe otherwise. You mentioned that you don’t want your liberal friends to go to concentration camps, but for them to “see the light.” And it got me to wondering if the same were true with respect to a guy you regularly defend, Mr. Limbaugh. I love talking politics with friends and family, and with every black friend and family member (I am white), no matter what their political leanings–and the entire spectrum is represented–to a person they think that Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole. So I’m wondering if you’ve had the similar experience. It’s really quite a simple question, pretending to be coy won’t cut it.
I’m not being coy. You italicized ‘Black Friend’. I still have no idea what you mean by that, who you are referring to, and what that question has to do with Poplawski and Oliver’s sudden obsession with Glenn Beck. So continue to ramble, maybe you’ll start to make sense at some point, Aqualung Ed.
I’m not being coy. You italicized ‘Black Friend’.
I did no such thing. Plus I just walked you through why I’m asking. So is this yet another simple question you’re unable to answer, for some reason?
Unable or unwilling.
It’s not the argument here, that your side’s fringes are less dangerous than the right’s. They both suck, and I don’t accuse you for anything they’ve done, or say you enable what they do, or create an environment for any harm they do.
Here’s where we can agree, amigo: the fringers suck. No doubt about that.
Here’s where I’m stuck: I can’t remember a time since the Seattle WTO protests (and even then it was primarily against property; I’m not aware of any cops being injured) that a leftist was moved by political ideology to commit violence, not even during the lengthy Iraq-war leadup. I can remember several instances where extreme rightists were moved to violence.
I believe this to be due to a cocktail of the sicko’s personal problems, the independent, authority-fearing aspect of conservatism, and irresponsible inflammatory comments in the conservative media. Do I want to pin it on those latter last two things? Not at all. But I try to be evidence-driven, and nobody’s giving me much to work with here.
Of course nobody is accusing conservatism in general, or conservatives in general. The hypothesis is pretty specific: irresponsible comments from SOME conservative media figures + CERTAIN elements of conservative ideology + One sad, painfully deranged person.
Some guy pushed a little old (fat) lady with a McCain sign that one time.
I’m still waiting to see whether Dennis has a link to his mythical “liberals came up with FEMA concentration camps” story. No? Which is it Dennis, liar? Idiot? Both?
Btw, we know you Dennis, so I’d recommend the idiot defense..
Oliver’s sudden obsession with Glenn Beck
It’s like Glenn Beck just got a new tv show saying crazy stuff, or something. And I’ve written about Beck before.
Oliver, you aren’t being very original:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/07/media_silence_on_antiwar_viole.html
“It is also worth noting that Marren was merely following the logic of the anti-war movement’s standard public rhetoric. Their language is laced with suggestive undertones justifying attacks against our military, calling our armed forces fighting the War on Terror “baby-killers”, constantly invoking the specter of Abu Ghraib, and citing their grossly inflated statistics of civilians accidentally killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Such reckless and unbalanced rhetoric (they’re not quite as adept at keeping statistics on those murdered by terrorists) fuels the hatred that drives someone like Marren to violence against a member of our own military.”
The only significant difference between what you guys are saying and what he said is that he’s talking about lefties! In fact, I bet it would be possible to find examples of this kind of rhetoric back from the Clinton years! You know, it almost makes one wonder if attempts to tie bad events to large swaths of your opposition might just be some kind of partisan nonsense..
You’ve written about him before, yes, although mostly before you’ve left that one to the C&L crowd. But suddenly you’ve been focusing on him, Oliver, and like someone said above, curious why Beck is getting the attention in the leftosphere and not Alex Jones. Jones is the one who said (and still says) the government is going to take all our guns. Niewert intimated that he did in the title of his blog post, but Beck didn’t say that. It’s likely Jones had a much greater influence on Poplawski than Beck did.
And since you’re here, just what the heck did the video that Poplawski linked to of Beck and Ron Paul prove? A guy as hardcore as he was, he’d have been more likely to think Beck was a buffoon.
curious why Beck is getting the attention in the leftosphere and not Alex Jones
Because Jones is a known kook and his ideas are being mainstreamed by Beck and others at Fox News.
Ya hear that? According to a very reliable source from War Hero Haplo9, there’s a Media Conspiracy to silence Anti-War Violence demagoguery, which is, like, way worse than anything on Fox News or Clear Channel outlets. Way worse. You can look it up on Little Green Footballs if you don’t believe me. The Em-Ess-Em is to scared and too pink to report it. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Except nobody on the serious, mainstream left pushed the idea of violence on the military the way the right has and is pushed conspiracy theories about Democratic presidents.
It’s likely Jones had a much greater influence on Poplawski than Beck did.
Listen to yourself. “It’s likely.” And yet, Mr. Poplawski did link to Beck. Plus, what O-Dub said. Really, that all you got?
Oh, and Dennis, are you ready to answer the latest simple question yet, or are you still unable for some weird reason and only willing to change the subject?
Sweet! I get to do the tried and true riposte from this website. “Shorter ed: look over here!” (In case it wasn’t clear, ed, you missed the point, not that that is surprising.)
you missed the point
No I didn’t. You missed the point.
Har har.
Har.
Dee har har.
Poor Hal Turner must be feeling left out.
Lol I didn’t see this part:
>even posting a link to Stormfront of a YouTube video
Stormfront. So the guy is a white supremacist. And Oliver wants to try to make everyone on the right own him. Now, in liberal crazyland, that might seem like a reasonable thing to do, but here in the real world, being right leaning does not automatically mean you a white supremacist. (Though that might come as a surprise to some of you nuttier people, sorry.) Or wait! I know! The guy was totally normal and stuff until he saw Glen Beck, and then he went bonkers for the supremacist stuff!
Because Jones is a known kook and his ideas are being mainstreamed by Beck and others at Fox News. OW
A somewhatlengthy summary of the last few day’s blog posts here, OW. But Eric Boehlert sounds just like a weird combination of Charles Blow and Aqualung Ed talking.
A bit of a kook, with a pet theory.
Yo Dennis, got a link? Liar? Idiot? Which is it?
Stormfront. So the guy is a white supremacist.
Who also digs Glenn Beck. I know, it’s Ripley’s. Who’da thunk it? What are the chances? Kind of like when we found out that Jim David Adkisson was a big fan of Bernard Goldberg, Rush Limbaugh, and Anne Coulter. That was weird.
So, Dennis, are we to assume that you are unable or unwilling to answer the latest simple question?
>Who also digs Glenn Beck. I know, it’s Ripley’s. Who’da thunk it? What are the chances? Kind of like when we found out that Jim David Adkisson was a big fan of Bernard Goldberg, Rush Limbaugh, and Anne Coulter. That was weird.
Interesting “logic” ed. So by virtue of the fact that a nutter agrees with something Beck said (or something he thinks Beck said), it means.. Beck holds all of the same views as him? All Republicans hold his views? What, exactly, do you think is significant about it?
Now, in liberal crazyland, that might seem like a reasonable thing to do, but here in the real world, being right leaning does not automatically mean you a white supremacist.
Certainly not. No one here is saying that all conservatives are white supremacist with violent, murderous tendencies.
We _are_ saying that most white supremacists with violent, murderous tendencies tend to be conservative Republicans.
Or Libertarians, which isn’t much of a difference.
it means.. Beck holds all of the same views as him?
No. Not at all, Dennis. You do know how TV works, right? The viewer cannot influence the person on it. But like attracts like. Beck is a fucking nutter. Poplawhatever was a nutter. See the connection yet? Like QiaB said, do we have to break out the Venn diagrams for you?
Sorry, not Dennis. Haplo9.
Sure, I see the connection you are trying to make, I just think it’s idiotic. Obama attracts socialists to him – does that mean all that right wing talk about Obama being a socialist was right after all? As you say, like attracts like. Seriously, can this game you guys are playing get any more infantile?
Obama attracts socialists to him
Really? Who?
What, exactly, do you think is significant about it?
Oh, nothing really.
Obama attracts socialists to him – does that mean all that right wing talk about Obama being a socialist was right after all?
Apparently you don’t see the connection I’m trying to make.
ed, remember that time that Janeanne Garafolo was on Air America and said we should kill conservatives, but not all of them, just enough so they would bend to our will? And then a liberal shot up a church?
Yeah, me neither.
Yo Dennis, got a link? Liar? Idiot? Which is it? –Crusty Dim
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You’re an idiot, Krusty the Klown. An annoying one at that.
Get a clue, too. Was it not a hint to you that you were being just plain dumb when two other people confirmed this and no one else stepped in to back you asking for more information, like you did, four times?
So, Dennis, does your Black Friend think that Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole, or what?
He has no black friends.
OT, looks like Jay’s neighbors are gonna be partyin’ tonight.
Duros: OT, looks like Jay’s neighbors are gonna be partyin’ tonight.
And it was done thru the legislature, and we all know how JT favors that route so I’m sure we’ll see no objections from that quarter.
I guess the answer to my question is yes, it can get more infantile.
>Really? Who?
Well hmm Duros. Let’s see, CPUSA seems to think Obama is great for their long term goals:
http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/975/1/147/
Or how about the Democratic Socialists of America:
http://www.dsausa.org/dl/Summer_2008.pdf
They seem quite happy with him. So Duros, tell me – if like attracts like, then why would it be unfair for me to conclude that Obama is a socialist or a communist? You said it, so by all means, try to defend it. Or.. Could it be that your premise is profoundly stupid, and that expressing an opinion that someone else agrees in whole or in part with does not necessarily mean that you and she share the same ideology?
>Apparently you don’t see the connection I’m trying to make.
Apparently not – it seems pretty obvious to me that you are doing the usual for this site – the rules that apply to repubs don’t apply to democrats. In this case, its even dumber than usual – you take a guy that is far, far right, and then say that he must share a lot of things in common with a lot of people on the right because, uh, both their ideological descriptions have the word “right” in them. Or something.
Haplo9, you totally destroyed that straw dude. Fucker never stood a chance. Awesome job.
Thanks ed! Always good to get affirmation from a lightweight!
“He has no black friends.”
He has no friends.
“OT, looks like Jay’s neighbors are gonna be partyin’ tonight.”
Awesome. The tide has turned and bigotry is on the losing end.
It was bound to happen, I just didn’t think it would happen this fast.
Come on Dennis, you’re going to have to do a hell of a lot better than that. There’s nothing about FEMA in the entire article!
I’ll see your 2006 and raise you 2004:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59023/pg1
Why don’t you just admit that you’re making shit up..
They seem quite happy with him. So Duros, tell me – if like attracts like, then why would it be unfair for me to conclude that Obama is a socialist or a communist? You said it, so by all means, try to defend it.
Because you were calling Obama a communist long before this even happened? This is just like the whole fake outrage with Obama talking about the economy, you’re just looking for any excuse to hate Obama.
I guess the answer to my question is yes, it can get more infantile.
Yup. You proved it all right.
More off topic. Here’s Liberal Activist and Baby Killing Advocate Michael J. Fox on last night’s Daily show:
Why is Hollywood so filled with hate?
Dennis, what do you think? Why is Michael J. Fox (and Jon Stewart) so vitriolic? Is is because he’s liberal?
Link to M.J. Fox’s hate-filled blindsiding of Rush Limbaugh:
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/michael-j-fox-being-attacked-limbaug
Hollyweird. Sheesh.
Haplo9 wrote,
Duros 62 replied,
Oh oh oh oh, Mr. Kotter, I know!
Carol Browner.
From the D.C. Examiner, January 8, 2009:
Come on Dennis, you’re going to have to do a hell of a lot better than that. There’s nothing about FEMA in the entire article! ––Crusty Underwear
Except I didn’t say ‘FEMA camps’, Krusty, you illiterate dolt.
Here’s what I said:
“And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo.”
So, you were either lying when you said that wasn’t true, or you are an idiot. Or both.
Which is it, Krusty?
Crusty Underwear
How old are you, Dennis?
Care to answer any really simple questions, yet? Are you chicken? Unable? Embarrassed? What?
Dennis: “Crusty Underwear”
ed: “How old are you, Dennis?”
My thoughts exactly.
And then he whines that we get personal attacking him.
Dennis now:
Except I didn’t say ‘FEMA camps’, Krusty, you illiterate dolt.
Dennis then:
Glenn Beck: FEMA camps debunked
And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo. The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up.
Thanks for showing your true colors, such as they are, Dennis. For the record, the ADL article about Glenn Beck that Oliver quoted in the article above is all about FEMA concentration camps. Of course, this would require you to both read and comprehend the topic at hand, never your strength.
But thanks for demonstrating both your ignorance and your rage.
Thanks for showing your true colors, such as they are, Dennis. For the record, the ADL article about Glenn Beck that Oliver quoted in the article above is all about FEMA concentration camps. Krusty the Klown
My true colors? I stated that concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far-right fringe groups; a true statement for which you call me a liar several times denying it to be true, and pout and demand a link. I provide just one link out of several hundred and then you reply with “But, but , but …it wasn’t FEMA”, and you’re too chickenshit to admit that you were wrong to call me a liar for the statement I made, just that ‘Oh, the topic was FEMA concentration camps’.
Well then, here’s one about liberal paranoia over FEMA camps during the Bush presidency:
Democratic Underground:
Paying the Price for Katrina and America’s Shadow Government (REX 84)
And you can look up lots more.
Proog that you’re and idiot, a dishonest poster, and a chickenshit. Notice that not even Southern Strategy or Aqualung Ed will back you up on your cluelessness about this, something they’d like nothing better to do if only they could. Shoot, Krusty, they’d research it for three hours if that’s what it took just ot have a decent comeback that showed you had a point. Then they’d ask me questions about it for the next 2 months.
But they don’t.
“Notice that not even Southern Strategy or Aqualung Ed will back you up on your cluelessness…”
And when we defend each other, you complain that we can’t handle the fights on our own.
You are a whiny little baby.
I don’t even know why you are on the fucking Internet. It’s not like you can burn a cross in virtual reality.
“Notice that not even Southern Strategy or Aqualung Ed will back you up on your cluelessness…”
I’m fine watching you fail on your own.
Notice that Dennis can’t answer simple questions about his hero, Rush Limbaugh.
Why is Michael J. Fox such a hateful, bitter person anyway, Dennis?
And when we defend each other, you complain that we can’t handle the fights on our own. — Southern Strategy
I notice you choose not to defend Krusty the Klown’s idiocy, much as you are obsessed with all things Dennis.
Uncharacteristic for you.
When you promised Oliver to make the effort not to make personal attacks, did you not realize you were completely incapable of doing that? Like a peeping tom telling a judge that he’d never do it again if he just let him off that once? That not only Oliver, but anyone and everyone reading such a pathetic false promise from you had to be snickering, even the few people who thought you occasionally had something decent to say?
Why is Michael J. Fox such a hateful, bitter person anyway, Dennis? –Aqualung ed
This isn’t Crooks and Liars, ed. And this post has nothing to do with Michael J. Fox or Rush Limbaugh. Since you’re so obsessed with posting links here from that blog and Limbaugh and being off-topic, why don’t you go hang out over there on their Open Topic forums. It’s a perfect place for you.
And you might find a couple of new people to stalk there, too. Broaden your horizons.
Dennis, I don’t need or want defense against your idiotic vitriol. Nice 2nd link, it’s based on the link I provided you with, so good job following up, did you finally figure out teh google?
Of course, what I’ve said is that Beck didn’t get the idea about FEMA concentration camps from the left, as you stated. I said “I think the FEMA concentration camp BS is a right-wing fever dream from the 90’s“. And of course, it does. But then, you might know all this if you spent more time reading and thinking, and less time coming up with names to sling at your intellectual betters like a macaque with his own feces.
So to save you time that should be spent bettering yourself, you can just copy and paste from the following to your own liking:
Krusty the Klown
Crusty the Clown
Crusty Underwear
The Cruster from Down Under
Dusty Crusty
Crusty Smegma
Oozing Penile Crust(y)
Wow, that was hard and I feel so clever now, I can see why you spend so much time on it.
Dennis calling someone else off-topic is AWESOME!
Dennis is chicken! Bawk bawk bawk!!!!
Can’t admit he’s Rush Limbaugh’s butt boy!!!
Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Did you ever ask your Black Friend about your hero Rush? What did s/he say?
Crusty Dem-
Seriously, straight up, why did you call me a liar for saying the idea of concentration camps didn’t start with these far right fringe groups? For which you persisted, asking me for links several times.
How is that a lie?
Really, Aqualung ed, 14 exclamation points in one post.
Someone is begging for attention, methinks.
What about your friends you love to discuss politics with, are they busy or something?
Bored silly with and avoiding you, too?
From Dennis’s link. Glenn Beck debunks FEMA camps.
MEIGS: But sometimes if you just knock on the door and ask to be let inside, they are happy to let you in and show you around. That’s exactly what we did. It’s an ordinary Amtrak facility. What’s particularly interesting, that video is almost 15 years old and
GLENN: This has actually come out during the Clinton administration, right?
Ah HA!! It’s always Clinton’s fault!
GLENN: Why would they need prison bars and turnstiles like that?
MEIGS: Well, the turnstiles to me look a lot like the turnstiles they have to get into the New York subway.
GLENN: Trains. Interesting that that happens to be a common theme here, also used by Hitler, trains.
MEIGS: If you want to look at the world that way, you know, everything leads back to Hitler. But if you also think about it
GLENN: My vegetable garden doesn’t.
That’s it. This guy is fucking certifiable.
Seriously, straight up, why did you call me a liar for saying the idea of concentration camps didn’t start with these far right fringe groups? For which you persisted, asking me for links several times.
How is that a lie?
You’re moving the goalposts, you said:
The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up.
Which is not even remotely true. Even if Glenn Beck got the idea from a lone DU post in 2006, which is comically insane, this kind of idiocy was bouncing around on the crazy right way back in the Clinton years (sorry, no links to stuff that old, but if it was in the X-files movie, I think I can safely say it’s not a new idea). Nutters were calling Art Bell in 1995 to tell them about FEMA concentration camps. So you’re either ignorant or just making shit up. That’s why.
Dennis, did you read the whole thing?
Translation: Hold me.
Thanks for that link, Dennis. You just proved our point.
Wolverines!!!
Thanks Duros, good catch, I think even Dennis might get the point now.. I look forward to his newest creative naming, although he may resort to the infamous “Duros and Crusty are liberal butt-buddies” retort. Boy, I don’t know how I’d ever recover from implied homosexuality, that’d be brutal..
Dennis?
Where’d he go?
Dennis the Bigot: “When you promised Oliver to make the effort not to make personal attacks, did you not realize you were completely incapable of doing that?”
I said I would make an effort if you did.
You did not, so why should I?
Now run along, you pathetic child. Isn’t there a Nazi rally you are supposed to be goosestepping in?
Denis the bigot: “I notice you choose not to defend Krusty the Klown’s idiocy, much as you are obsessed with all things Dennis.”
Obsession?
You are such a fucking hypocrite. You mention my name in threads where I haven’t even responded to you.
Is every personal attack from you nothing but projection?
Where, oh where hast he gone?
Brave, brave sir Dennis?
Crusty Dem: “Where, oh where hast he gone?
Brave, brave sir Dennis?”
And people wonder why I swear at these guys and insult them.
How many times are we supposed to debate them and have them run away till we give up and just start insulting them?
Easy gents, we’re not all fortunate enough to have a computer job. It might be nothing nefarious, for all anyone knows.
True enough, Parth. But I’d be surprised if he comes back to this thread. Even more surprised if he addresses that Beck link.
I think you guys are a bit Sui generis, but the sentiment is appropriate. I’d bet he’ll be back next week, twice as rude, half as thoughtful, and dense as ever.
FOR PRETRIB RAPTURE REPEATERS
Congratulations! You are now fulfilling the Bible which says “Come now, and let us repeat together.”
Be sure to repeat what Walvoord, Lindsey, LaHaye, Ice etc. repeat what their own teachers repeat what their own teachers repeat etc. etc. etc.!
Repeat that Christ’s return is imminent because we’re told to “watch” (Matt. 24, 25) for it. So is the “day of God” (II Pet. 3:12) – which you admit is at least 1000 years ahead – also imminent because we’re told to be “looking for” it?
Also repeat the pretrib myths about the “Jewish wedding stages” and “Jewish feasts” (where’s your “church/Israel dichotomy” now?) even though Christ and Paul knew nothing about a “pretrib stage” and neither did any official theological creed or organized church before 1830!
You should read “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” on the “Powered by Christ Ministries” site to find out why you shouldn’t repeat everything your pretrib teachers repeat.
Do I have to repeat this?
[the above is actually on the web & I just viewed it! Laurel]
Egads, Laurel. That’s Timecube-level crazy..
Parthenon: “Easy gents, we’re not all fortunate enough to have a computer job. It might be nothing nefarious, for all anyone knows.”
At this point I think we can safely say he ran away.
True enough, Parth. But I’d be surprised if he comes back to this thread. Even more surprised if he addresses that Beck link.–Duros62
You’re a f’ing weasel, Duros. Here was my statement to fafaroo:
“And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo. The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up.”
When I said that the Left started pusing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up, I wasn’t declaring that that was the first time anyone had any paranoia about concentration camps in the United States.
Your first direct to that response was “And back then, you had no problem with that if it meant liberals were gonna go away.”
Your next direct response was after I asked you “Do you honestly think the idea of concentration camps just suddenly appeared in the last six months, and that Glenn Beck just dreamed it up then?”
You replied “No, but yes.”
Your next one was: “To be fair, I was under the impression that the camps were known as Katrina Camps back in the day, in case the darkies rose up.”
So after persistent demands for a link to show the concentration camps idea didn’t just spring up all of a sudden for which Crusty Dem was calling me a liar for, for which I provide, you take it upon yourself to state that the paranoia started way well before even the Clinton years, which wasn’t my point. You had to know what my point was because you agreed that there was paranoia from the Left in the Bush/Cheney years.
You’re a weasel, Duros. Not as big a one as Crusty Dem and C.S. Strowbridge, but right up there. This proves why it’s a waste of time to provide links when someone here demands them like a little WATB. If Krusty wanted to make the point that he took issue with when concentration camp paranoia first originated, a point well established in the text the Oliver posted as the body of his blog post, he should’ve just provided a link or pointed to it at first instead of demanding a link and calling me a liar like a little schoolgirl and demanding a link for something that I thought he was talking about something different. And so did you, Duros, based on your first three responses. Then you had the dishonest gall to state “That was our point all along”. What a douchebag statement.
It doesn’t please me to show what a dishonest poster you are, Duros, but you are.
I think you guys are a bit Sui generis, but the sentiment is appropriate. I’d bet he’ll be back next week, twice as rude, half as thoughtful, and dense as ever. –Krusty
You bobbed and weaved and weaseled your way through this whole thread, Krusty. You should have just stated that the whole idea started a long time ago. I don’t follow whacked-out paranoid conspiracy theories to know whenever what kook first dreamed them up. And that wasn’t what I was saying, nor what you were implying that was a lie coming from me, because you said everything I said was a lie. And you relied on Duros to go do your research for you before you falsely declared victory. And I left this thread because it wasn’t worth the time to go back over the whole conversation to clarify, even if it meant proving what a fucking weasel you were and are.
Dennis the Bigot: “When I said that the Left started pusing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up, I wasn’t declaring that that was the first time anyone had any paranoia about concentration camps in the United States.”
So the left came up with the idea of FEMA concentration camps used to house political enemies, but not concentration camps used to house political enemies run by other branches of the government. That’s your claim? You are willing to split that hair?
Dennis the Bigot: “You’re a weasel, Duros.”
After splitting hairs like that, you have the guts to call someone else a weasel.
Dennis the Bigot: “Not as big a one as Crusty Dem and C.S. Strowbridge…”
You better get that OCD checked. You seem obsessed with mentioning my name.
Dennis the Bigot: “This proves why it’s a waste of time to provide links when someone here demands them like a little WATB.”
You calling someone else a WATB? Wow. The projection is amazing.
Dennis the Bigot: “calling me a liar like a little schoolgirl”
More sexism from the master.
And The Biggest Weasel of Them All, Obsession for Men Spokesperson C.S.Strowbridge weighs in.
Go back over the thread, Southern Strategy. You were the first one to jump in on the conversation and say “Dennis has no friends”.
I hadn’t addressed you or mentioned you before that. You were the one to go back on your word, your word which never meant anything anyway, and start back in with the personal attacks. You lied to Oliver when you said you would refrain.
That came as no surprise to me because I knew your obsession could not be contained with any sort of an idle promise, no matter what level of sincerity you were trying to display. It just wasn’t possible; you were already too far gone.
Obsessive. Compulsive. Disorder.
You’ve probably had it since childhood.
Oh please, Dennis. Victory was declared when you were roundly thrashed and ran away. Now you’re back like LL Cool J and repeating the same crap as if it’s proof you’re now right? You’re parsing is admirable, but you’re leaving out the key sentence that demonstrates your ignorance:
And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo. The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up. Implicate them too when you send your report to the Pittsburgh DA as to exactly where Poplawski was getting his marching orders.
Care to defend that first sentence? You know, the one which starts the paragraph, some might even call it the thesis sentence of your argument? Which defines the following sentences as referring to the origin of the myth? I’ll be waiting for the next topic change and swivel.
You’re just mad because your link disproved your point. Again.
And you relied on Duros to go do your research for you before you falsely declared victory.
What research? I read the link you provided to the end. Come to find out it didn’t say what you thought it was saying.
And I left this thread because it wasn’t worth the time to go back over the whole conversation to clarify, even if it meant proving what a fucking weasel you were and are.
And yet, here you are doing exactly that.
Care to defend that first sentence? You know, the one which starts the paragraph, some might even call it the thesis sentence of your argument? Which defines the following sentences as referring to the origin of the myth? I’ll be waiting for the next topic change and swivel. Crusty Dem
I said ‘these far-right’ fringe groups, meaning the ones we’re talking about right here, right now, Krusty. You know, Richard Poplawski, the subject at hand? The one liberal blogs are obsessed with all of a sudden. If you didn’t think that’s who I was talking about and not the fringe groups from 30 or 40 years ago, why didn’t you just say that?
And I left this thread because I was at work and went home, and then the thread went off the main page. I didn’t see it again until I saw on the main page the ‘Recent Comments’ where Strowbridge had made a comment. That and it wasn’t worth rehashing. WTF difference does it make. Like I said, I post from work and if you took exception to the post you should have just set the record straight instead of acting like Douchebag Lawrence O’Donnell and yelling “Liar, Liar, Liar, Liar” fifty times and demanding a link.
The fact of the matter is, it wasn’t just the fringe kook Left that was promoting the idea of concentration camps just a few short years ago under Bush/Cheney, so that acting like this is just nuttiness all of a sudden that only fringe right-wing militia types are engaging in is somewhat comical to hear you guys say.
And yet, here you are doing exactly that. –Duros62
Duros, I called you a weasel and laid out exactly why you are one. I’ve always felt bad for you that I had to do it once before when you claimed you had never said Joe Biden was a racist and I provided a quote of you calling him exactly that. I know you’re memory is not all that great and I have compassion for that sort of thing, but when your faulty memory is the source of you attacking me for something you originally backed me up on for obviously knowing the intent of my post, then that is weaseling out of the highest order.
Why do you choose not to respond to that but instead come back with the exact kind of response the CSS would in that case? A weasel response at that?
I said ‘these far-right’ fringe groups, meaning the ones we’re talking about right here, right now, Krusty. You know, Richard Poplawski, the subject at hand?
I love it Dennis, whatever you do, don’t admit that you were just making shit up because you liked the sound of it. Where, above your post, were people talking about any specific far-right fringe groups? And you call me a weasel? I called you a liar because you are a liar. I once gave you the benefit of “idiot”, but your continual re-parsing proves you care much more for defending yourself than about the facts.
The fact of the matter is, it wasn’t just the fringe kook Left that was promoting the idea of concentration camps just a few short years ago under Bush/Cheney, so that acting like this is just nuttiness all of a sudden that only fringe right-wing militia types are engaging in is somewhat comical to hear you guys say.
Well, when you claim 15 year old right-wing conspiracy theories come from the left, and insinuate that Glenn Beck got it from the left (maybe he read that one DU post, right?), you’re going to be taken to task for lying/idiocy. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, feel free to STFU. When you’re wrong, feel free to admit it.
Additionally, someone who spits as much pointless vitriol as you do probably shouldn’t be whining quite so much about personal attacks…
Krusty-
When I replied to you:
“Are f’ing serious, Crusty? Do you honestly think the idea of concentration camps just suddenly appeared in the last six months, and that Glenn Beck just dreamed it up then?”
That proves the intent of my post and my bewilderment at just WTF you were talking about demanding a link and calling me a liar.
Especially when the very next comment, from the poster “P” was this:
“It is true the “FEMA camp” story was around during Bush years (hardly just among “liberals” though, afaik it was mostly popular with libertarian types.)”
If you took exception to what I said, why didn’t you tell “P” what you were talking about then and why you thought it was a lie.
I’d admit a mistake if I made one, but in this case the only mistake was not wording this so that it was unambiguous to even the most thickest of people to understand. And you weaseled your way through this whole thing, just for the sake of playing a gotcha game, which is always the case with people when they yell and scream for a link.
Yes Dennis, when I called you on it you tried to change the subject. Some might even call it “weaseling”.
And you still can’t defend this bit of “weaseling”:
I said ‘these far-right’ fringe groups, meaning the ones we’re talking about right here, right now, Krusty. You know, Richard Poplawski, the subject at hand?
WTF dude. Which groups? Name two. You’re just talking out your ass trying to avoid the subject..
Krusty- You called me a liar and what I said was not a lie, then or now. You misinterpreted what I said. That’s all. If I was weaseling I wouldn’t waste time coming back here to even explain.
Why if it really matters what nutcase was the ‘very first one’ to peddle the conspiracy that the government, or FEMA, was going to set up concentration camps was a liberal or a conservative, when both sides partook in it, albeit mainly from the far extreme fringes of either? If that was my point, how could it be a boast or an excuse? That ‘ha-ha, someone from your fringes started it, don’t blame the far right loons because they just got it from your loons’. Makes no sense for me to brag about that point, and it made no sense to me that that’s what you were getting at since it wouldn’t follow logic that you were trying to defend the far left fringes.
Are you doing that? Are you saying that no far left fringe kooks would ever be so weird as to start a theory that a government sponsored entity would be building camps so to inter anyone harboring anti-government viewpoints would be rounded up and kept there? That’s not changing the subject; that is what we’re arguing about, isn’t it?
And if I didn’t stick around to duke this pointless point around a few days ago had I known about it, today’s bickering proves why. Huge time-waster.
So you can’t answer:
And concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far right fringe groups, fafaroo. The Left started pushing that idea a while ago with Bush/Cheney setting them up. Implicate them too when you send your report to the Pittsburgh DA as to exactly where Poplawski was getting his marching orders.
This was you trying to blame the left, and you’re wrong. That was you bragging about it being a left-wing phenomenon, you can blame it on ignorance, arrogance, or idiocy, but it’s still not true. Concentration camp paranoia began on the right and continues on the right. And you’re still weaseling:
I said ‘these far-right’ fringe groups, meaning the ones we’re talking about right here, right now, Krusty. You know, Richard Poplawski, the subject at hand?
That’s classic weaseling, and you can’t even back that up.
So you can’t answer: Crusty
You have an f’ing problem, dude. How much can I answer before you get far past the point of being obnoxious. Blaming the Left? No, Crusty, saying the Left partook in these conspiracy theories too, and they (at least the ones from Bush/Cheney) came well before the ones being touted now from Obama, should be included as well as having anything to do with Poplawski’s paranoia that caused him to start shooting at cops. Again, and for the last fucking time, that statement wasn’t meant to mean concentration camp conspiracy theories “started” with the left. Maybe I should’ve used another word besides “started” so as not to avoid confusion, but you were the only who took it to mean started as in the very beginning ever, and I’ve detailed who else thought that, and how I responded. So regardless of how you interpreted the word “started”, even if the Left wasn’t the first to come up with the idea of concentration camps, “started” would not be a lie in that during Bush/Cheny years was when the Left started to come up with these theories. The point was,you guys were blaming this paranoia for Poplawski’s actions, at least Beck’s discussion of it as part of mainstreaming conspriacy theories, and I was saying, the Left did it too not all that long ago. Blame them too.
That’s not weaseling, that’s what I meant. And this whole stupid conversation is over the word “started”, and you were the only one to take it that way. And you never let it go even after I explained it as such that very day.
That’s bizarre, Crusty. An overriding need to be correct.
You have an f’ing problem, dude.
You’re right about that, I don’t suffer fools lightly, don’t like it? Don’t be a fool. If you have to redefine the word “started” you’re being a fool. Especially when you’ve already repeatedly said:
I stated that concentration camp paranoia didn’t begin with these far-right fringe groups; a true statement for which you call me a liar several times denying it to be true
Only it’s not. And now you walk back, again… If you’re unsure, go look for where you called me “Crusty Underwear”. Height of maturity, that.
The point was, you guys were blaming this paranoia for Poplawski’s actions, at least Beck’s discussion of it as part of mainstreaming conspriacy theories, and I was saying, the Left did it too not all that long ago. Blame them too.
I’m not sure who this mysterious “left” is you’re referring to here. I suppose one DU post is enough for you, I’d have to see it on at least one or two notable sites to think “the left did it too” or the left was “mainstreaming conspiracy theories”. Who? Can you name any? Or are these just random images from some fever dream you had?
I said ‘these far-right’ fringe groups, meaning the ones we’re talking about right here, right now, Krusty. You know, Richard Poplawski, the subject at hand?
I’m repeating this because I honestly am just baffled by WTF you mean by this. What are “these far-right fringe groups”? Are you talking about stormfront? If so, you might want to hit the google to see when they started, and how they never stopped talking about this stuff, you might be surprised..