Not for lack of effort on Ailes’ part, I’m sure.

Amazing how far some on this board will go to defend principle. A wingnut will foment armed insurrection–qv Bachmann (that’s CONGRESSWOMAN Bachmann), Libby, et al–and the Jays and Dennises of the world likely would defend them as “principled.”

Being faithful to a curdled ideology turns virtue into vice. It’s also the MO of the right.

What. The. Fuck?

That’s a fucking lie and you know it. No one NO ONE here thinks it is “awesome.”

Not fafaroo, not you, not Oliver, not anyone has stated their sympathies for the fallen officers, so how was I supposed to know he was being facetious,

Because we don’t need to say it to know it. It goes without saying. We grieve for the families of the fallen. In our own way.

Frustrated to the point of violence, perhaps? Frustrated enough that he would start a fight over a dog peeing on the rug? Frustrated enough that that fight would escalate to cops being called and an armed stand-off that left 3 cops dead?

Just asking questions.

He was a loser in just about everything, Jaim, not just his job. So was his yun’zer mother, who held the door open and told police he wasn’t armed.

But you can’t deny that he was deeply affected by NRA and Glenn Beck propaganda involving a conspiracy theory by scary Mooslim Obama to take America’s guns away. And that a sitting Republican Congressperson (Bachmann) told her constituents that they should “take up arms.”

Ridiculous cause and effect between what Bachmann said and what made him do what he did. He already had the arms, he already had his problems, he already had his anger. What you are doing is exhibiting the same conspiracy theory paranoia. Let’s see if this quote by Bachmann is brought up in court when this poor soul gets his trial. And if so, just how fast it gets shot down.

And that Erik the Asshole at Redstate has been doing his tough-guy impersonation about the need for wing-nuts to get violent with liberals.

Was Erik doing something along the lines of what Obama did as a candidate when he told his supporters to “get in their faces”, Jaim. Wasn’t that a direct order to liberals and liberal bloggers to get as nasty as you wanna be?

And Jaim, you keep repeating the Beck conspiracy theory that he was saying ‘Obama wants to take our guns away’. Do you have a quote on that? Because it’s not in the Niewert blog post where he claims he said that and linked to the Fox interview of him and LaPierre discussing Holder’s comments on the assault weapons ban.

But what Parthenon said. Even if I hadn’t expressed condolences, it kind of goes without saying that this was tragic.

But please Dennis, continue to try and change the subject away from the fact that a young, disturbed man, due to a combination of circumstances, went off the deep end and murdered three cops. Among said circumstances, losing his job was probably the biggest factor. But you can’t deny that he was deeply affected by NRA and Glenn Beck propaganda involving a conspiracy theory by scary Mooslim Obama to take America’s guns away. And that a sitting Republican Congressperson (Bachmann) told her constituents that they should “take up arms.” And that Erik the Asshole at Redstate has been doing his tough-guy impersonation about the need for wing-nuts to get violent with liberals.

You’ll continue to deny it I know, because you have no shame. But feel free to look around America right now and see what other people are thinking about this and the Right Wing Smear Machine and what it has wrought. Hell, I’d be interested to see you try and explain what Glenn Beck and the NRA and Bachmann are had been saying leading up to the murders to the wives and children of the deceased.

I rather thought this went without saying, amigo.

I believe the above a good example of what the kids call “a flounder.”

How do I know he was being facetious? Because I’m not an idiot!

You can’t handle such language, because you are stupid. This is also the reason why you are a conservative. You look at the world in black and white, and use only literal interpretations, because you can’t handle trying to interpret shades of gray.

“You guys have spent the last 2 1/2 days solid treating this shooting as if it is indeed ‘awesome’; that it proves you’re paranoid theories you’ve been spewing for some time now.”

Projection. Pure 100% projection.

Why don’t you shut the fuck up, Strowbridge, you fucking idiot. How the hell do you know what he was thinking when he said that, the same way you know what Poplawski was thinking when he decided to start shooting? You guys have spent the last 2 1/2 days solid treating this shooting as if it is indeed ‘awesome’; that it proves you’re paranoid theories you’ve been spewing for some time now.

Not fafaroo, not you, not Oliver, not anyone has stated their sympathies for the fallen officers, so how was I supposed to know he was being facetious, especially when he came out of nowhere with this irrelevant video clip?

You’re a moron, Strowbridge. This post proves it.

Dennis: “But fafaroo, that’s not the meme being pushed here the last two days, was it…”

Yes it is.

Or are you arguing that because we didn’t mention Neil Cavuto and Dick Morris by name on day one they are not part of the problem?

Dennis: “So awesome??? Three young policemen are dead, fafaroo. There’s nothing awesome about that. Nothing.”

… Shut the fuck up, Dennis. You are stupid, and this post proves it. Fafaroo was being facetious, and the fact that you couldn’t get that shows you shouldn’t be talking about these maters. You just don’t have the intellectual skill to handle it.

Dennis, what the hell are you talking about? Fox traffics in paranoia often enough to fit the bill.

But fafaroo, that’s not the meme being pushed here the last two days, was it, starting from about two hours after the incident up to now, and likely not even close to being exhausted. Far from it.

I have no idea whether the guy saw the clip or how it might have effected him. I also think the only person responsible for his actions was the guy himself.

But please, Dennis, let’s not pretend, as you are inclined to do, that Fox News doesn’t trade in pretty hardcore paranoia when it wants to.

So awesome??? Three young policemen are dead, fafaroo. There’s nothing awesome about that. Nothing.

Do you really think this guy was watching Neil Cavuto interview Dick Morris, and what Morris said made him feel justified in what he was about to do? If you do, you owe it to society and to the families of the slain to call the Pittsburgh police department right now and notify them of it.

fafaroo: “Which is why it was so awesome when Dick Morris finally told him that his paranoid fantasies actually had some basis in reality:”

They are mainstreaming crazy and feeding it in order to make money.

Which is why it was so awesome when Dick Morris finally told him that his paranoid fantasies actually had some basis in reality:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/31/right-wing-militia-watch-dick-morris-cheers-on-killing-atf-agents/

Yeah. I understood you. I’m 90% sure Duros did as well. The point still stands, Fox News is helping mainstream extremist views.

Dennis: “Reports are this nut was not only hanging out at Stormfront…”

Are these the same reports you dismissed earlier?

“It’s highly likely he would’ve considered Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh as all milquetoast douche bags…”

Highly likely? And you are basing this on your knowledge of the average poster on Stormfront?

Secondly, the people who turn extremists positions into mainstream ones, like the Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, and others, are worse than the extremists. The extremists are, by their very nature, isolated.

“Even more unlikely that anything any of those talk show guys said would’ve caused him to go postal like he did.”

Why? If what Rush says doesn’t affect anyone, then the GOP wouldn’t suck up to him. Hell, if what people say doesn’t affect others, there would be no celebrity spokespeople.

Should’ve proofread that before hit the Submit button. Meant to say:

It’s highly likely he would’ve considered Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh as all milquetoast douche bags, and that listening to them could hardly have been his preferred source of information about guns and what Obama was going to do about them.

So, no, Duros, for a guy this extreme, he’d likely come away from watching anything on Fox feeling very frustrated that they didn’t go far enough in their hyperbole.