As suspected, that is the “intellectual” thinking behind the silly tea party “movement”. The same crap that the right in America has always been pushing, from Barry Goldwater to Reagan to George W. Bush to John McCain. The same old tired lunacy of the right. It’s the same wackjobbery that reared its head during the Clinton presidency with the so-called patriot movement and its followers.
Same crap.
Do you really want to get into a discussion of whackjob signs?
http://zombietime.com/
I’ll put the fringe of the left up against the core of the right anytime. I do wonder why Random Link To Right Wing Site is a substitute for an argument. You know what else was on that site before the election?
The Left’s Big Blunder
Surely that brilliant analysis was good… for John McCain.
might be showing my age, but I remember hearing this as a kid.
Your note brought this back to me….amazing how little the right has changed, no?
I wasn’t making an argument. I was wondering if your standards had fallen so far that you’re willing to take a picture representing anywhere between 1/100th to 1/1000th of an event and saying that it is prima facie evidence that the entire “Tea Party” movement is some sort of front for the Paultards. Well, you’re the one linking to someone linking to a picture of a sign at a protest and going “ZOMG! The REAL reason for so many Americans to show up in droves opposing President Obama’s glorious plans!” There’s about five years worth of tripe the left has been building and eating off of over at that website. Those are the same people who will be protesting Obama and calling him a war criminal when he doesn’t do what they expected him to do. You might want to keep an eye on them because you’ll be getting embarassed by the inbred cousins of the left again soon enough.
Core huh? That picture which was shown at the site you linked was from the Orlando Tea Party. 3-4000 people were there. There were well over 100 pictures taken there by the website where LGM got that picture, and it’s part of a collection of a couple hundred pictures from that event. 3-4000 people, hundreds of pictures, and LGM uses one of about three which had a topic other than “Obama sucks”, “Government stop taking my money”, or “I don’t want my grandchildren to be paying down this debt for their entire lives”. Yeah, sure, they whoooooooolllllllllleeeeee point of that event was the topic on the single sign you linked to.
In the span of about a month and a half these Tea Party events have gone from a couple hundred to pulling in thousands. During the same time President Obama’s poll and popularity numbers have trended downward, and are below those of contemporary presidents at the same point in their administration. Correlation is not causation. You can engage in conspiracy theories about how Rick Santelli and Barry Goldwater to your heart’s content, but there may actually be a there here.
The “thousands” in this case being the “thousands” who showed up to see the great savior Sarah Palin. It’s no conspiracy. The right in America has been front and center with its stupidity for decades now. It’s just where we’ve reached a point where some of us no longer treat it with respect but call it out for the fruitcakery it is.
Those are the same people who will be protesting Obama and calling him a war criminal when he doesn’t do what they expected him to do.
Which is why very few people take random protesters seriously. As I said, the protesters on the left are the fringe. The “protesters” on the right are the nutty base, the kind of people who don’t roll around laughing at the idea of Obama being a socialist or Sarah Palin being POTUS.
I wasn’t making an argument.
Well at least you’re admitting it.
What the hell are you talking about? Palin had nothing to do with the people showing up for the event in Orlando. Has Palin even mentioned these protests? If you want to mention a bogeyman at least mention Gingrich who has publicly commented on them. Sheesh… get with the program Mr. Willis.
A funny thing to say in a comment on a post you wrote where you attribute great weight and credit to a sign being held by a random protester.
Well, anyone (anyone?) who reads Newsweek could possibly be mistaken for thinking that. However, really, we’ve seen the definition of “war criminal” dumbed down so much over the past eight years it’s only fair that “socialist” gets the same treatment. It’s probably more of a practical matter though. “Socialist” rolls off the tongue easier than “Liberal politician who wants to buy votes for his party by taking money from the people above an ever-lowering line of wealth to indirectly give it to people below that line through the inefficient filter of various government programs and bureaucracies.”
It’s most definitely easier to write.
Tea Parties = 3-4,000 and I’m being kind.
Anti-War Protests = Hundreds of thousands in the US and millions worldwide.
You lose.
SFC B, do you ever get tired of being pwned by Oliver?
Um, I know it’s not longer in the headlines because well, who knows why, but there is still a war going on. They didn’t exactly accomplish their mission.
To be fair though, some of those anti-war protesters weren’t anti-war, they just wanted the side that wasn’t America and her allies to be victorious. Maybe that small sliver of the anti-war movement is the ones who sabotaged it so that, even after 8 years of embarrassing themselves, they have a tentative date of mid 2010 to have America leave only a few brigades in Iraq.
I’m still eagerly awaiting when it was that the people in Orlando showed up to see Sarah Palin and how it is that one sign belonging to an unidentifed person identifies the core of an entire side of the political spectrum, but the same thing doesn’t apply to the other side.
“They didn’t exactly accomplish their mission.”
Tell that to the dozens of Republican politicians who got thrown out on their sorry asses in 2006 and 2008. Tell that to John McCain, a man who literally made a “100 year” commitment to our failed occupation of Iraq. Obama promised to end the war responsibly, which is what he’s going to do.
“I’m still eagerly awaiting when it was that the people in Orlando showed up to see Sarah Palin”
Sarah Palin, for as big a laughingstock as she is, is a “rockstar” among your wing-nut brethren. A tea-party that didn’t have her on the bill wouldn’t have broken 100.
As for the “fringe” of the left, I’m happy to have something like DailyKOS, which I’m sure you hate, which raised massive amounts of money for long-shot candidates over the past few years and is managing to turn many a red-state blue (VA and NC being the most prominent examples).
Name one Republican web-site that’s even in the same ballpark when it comes to actually winning elections. Nope, didn’t think you could.
SFC B, do you ever get tired of being pwned by Oliver? –Jaim Galt
Honestly, Jaim, do you ever get tired of sucking up to him?
It’s like you’re trying out to be his head cheerleader or something.
No, that’s Michelle Malkin:
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2008/05/16/too-crazy-for-fox-too-crazy-for-mccain/
Is Frank Rich about to join the tea parties now too?
Has a ‘Katrina Moment’ Arrived?
Is it just me, or are the op/ed headlines of the MSM getting a bit less respectful?
They didn’t exactly accomplish their mission.
And thank goodness for that! The Iraq Invasion was an awesome idea based entirely on The Truth! Right SFC B.
Honest question, Dennis: Did you actually read Rich’s editorial?
Jim David Adkissonites being Jim David Adkissonites
Well, since she didn’t attend the Orlando, Ridgefield, Cincinnati, Fullerton, Atlanta, Phoenix, Raleigh, or any of the Tea Party protests I can’t wait to hear how she managed to get those hundreds and thousands of people to show up. As I mentioned to Mr. Willis up thread, it doesn’t look like Palin has even talked about this topic. But hey, if it makes you feel better to think that this is all because of her, go for it.
I did. BLUF: Obama hasn’t fulfilled his campaign promises reference transparency. His Treasury Secretary and his chief economic advisor are unable to explain what they’re doing leaving the impression they don’t know what they’re doing. And unless Obama somehow gets in front of this he’s going to find his agenda derailed.
Did I miss something?
Honest question, Dennis: Did you actually read Rich’s editorial?–Oliver Willis
Honest answer, Oliver, yes, I did. When Frank Rich is critical of anything Obama, even to the point of calling him tardy and impotent on this whole bailout scenario, it is noteworthy. I’m joking that that left-wing movie critic turned political pundit would ever join a tea party, though. That’s why I used your tactic by phrasing it as a question.
Uh oh Dennis… you’d better very quickly clarify that you’re talking about Rich and not CSS. Otherwise they’ll get very confused, and they angry when they get confused.
Hey you know what, good for you tea partiers. The policies some of you are advocating are crazy, but it’s nice to get together with some like-minded people and have a little event. They’re going to be as effective as the Iraq War protests, which is to say as effective as any protest ever, which is to say not at all effective.
But still, good on ya. What’s a free country if you’re not free to be batshit loony, like the Paul gang?
I guess dissent is only patriotic when a Republican is President. When THE ONE is president then it’s silly and such dissent is the equivalent of being Timothy McVeigh. So kids, if you attend one of these tea parties in Oliver’s tiny brain, it’s the equivalent of wanting to blow up federal buildings.
I think Oliver reached the Mount Everest of stupidity with that comparison.
Congratulations!
When the dissenters in question are talking about b.s. like socialism and the gold standard and survivalism, yeah they are just echoing McVeigh and company. The truth hurts sometimes.
But then you thought we were quaking in fear about Sarah Palin.
Which sort of proves my point.
Uh oh Dennis… you’d better very quickly clarify that you’re talking about Rich and not CSS. Otherwise they’ll get very confused, and they angry when they get confused. SFC B
CSS lives in a perpetual state of confusion and anger, SFC.
When he’s not angry, he comes here to re-up.
I’m never really too clear which logical fallacy is which. Is that a strawman, composition, or guilt by association? One person out of thousands has a sign saying abolish fiat currency and suddenly everyone there is supposed to be a gold bug? And as far a calling Obama a socialist goes, it’s easier than calling him a liberal politician who wants to buy votes for his party by taking money from the people above an ever-lowering line of wealth to indirectly give it to people below that line through the inefficient filter of various government programs and bureaucracies, or a LPWWTBVFHPBTMFTPAAELOWTIGITPBTLTTIFOVGPAB for short.
You and Jaim were the two who were apparently convinced that the only force capable of getting this many conservatives riled up was misplaced lust for Sarah Palin. No one else had even mentioned her until you two did. Apparently the thought that excessive government spending, incompetent or inept legislators, and a government power-grab that would make your hair burst into flames if Bush tried it might piss off some of the citizenry was beyond your grasp. So obviously it was Palin’s GILFness that did it.
SFC B: I’m never really too clear which logical fallacy is which. Is that a strawman, composition, or guilt by association? One person out of thousands has a sign saying abolish fiat currency and suddenly everyone there is supposed to be a gold bug?
Oh, well I can help you out there. Y’see, when someone jumps to claiming something like, oh, “suddenly everyone there is supposed to be a gold bug”? That’s putting up a straw man.
SFC B: And as far a calling Obama a socialist goes, it’s easier than calling him a liberal politician who wants to buy votes for his party by taking money from the people above an ever-lowering line of wealth to indirectly give it to people below that line through the inefficient filter of various government programs and bureaucracies, or a LPWWTBVFHPBTMFTPAAELOWTIGITPBTLTTIFOVGPAB for short.
Ah, so you’re in favor of using inaccurate labels instead of having to enunciate a what you actually believe to be reality. You admit you are both lazy and a liar. Good to know.
When the dissenters in question are talking about b.s. like socialism and the gold standard and survivalism, yeah they are just echoing McVeigh and company. The truth hurts sometimes.
You’re not a stupid man, so I just cannot fathom why you write such stupid shit sometimes. I mean, really. Is being in the good graces of Ed and CSS worth that much?
Oh and if you don’t like comparisons to socialism, perhaps President Obama shouldn’t be putting forth proposals to regulate compensation packages financial firms negotiate with their employees. Get a clue: The answer to problems is not always a new government program. I know liberals have a tough time understanding this concept, but it’s true.
And, Sean perhaps you can enlighten us as to how one sign and these tea parties creates this direct link to Timothy McVeigh instead of cherry picking at one are of SFB C’s comment.
Jay: And, Sean perhaps you can enlighten us as to how one sign and these tea parties creates this direct link to Timothy McVeigh instead of cherry picking at one are of SFB C’s comment.
And that, SFC B, would be the “I challenge you to defend the position you never took” variation of “Look, over there.”
some of those anti-war protesters weren’t anti-war, they just wanted the side that wasn’t America and her allies to be victorious. Maybe that small sliver of the anti-war movement is the ones who sabotaged it
SFC, I only made E-5 during my one hitch in the Army, so I guess you outrank me, but I dare you to question my patriotism when I protested the invasion of Iraq. See, my service dates back to the sixties, and Iraq was like watching a rerun of stupidity.
The same arguments that got us into Iraq were used to get us into Vietnam. And as soon as I got out of the Army in 1968, I joined the DFH protesters because I knew first hand that the Vietnam adventure was bogus.
More recently I was joined in the protest of the Iraq invasion by my then 83-year old mother, who met my (deceased) dad when they were both working in the shipyards during WW II, building Liberty Ships.
My family is as patriotic as any and as anti-war as any, and you can kiss my tattooed ass.
I have to wonder, why if these tea parties are so insignificant do you feel the need to constantly give them attention by posting about them?
Sometimes, one doth protest too much. And I tend to believe is the case with the blog host. If you’re not worried about these idgits protesting, then quit acting like you are.
And btw, these tea parties have nothing to do with Sarah Palin, or (for god’s sake, I can’t believe I even have to mention this next one to you people) Tim McVeigh. People are legitimately and rightfully upset over their tax dollars being flushed down the can to the tune of god knows how many trillions of dollars. There isn’t anything “fanatical” about that. And If you’ve been paying attention to ANY protests that have taken place of the last 8 years while the left was screeching like lunatics, you’d know that hyperbole is the name of the game. These are no different. Do you not remember the whole “Bushitler, Bush = nazi, worlds biggest terrorist” schtick from the left?
Looks more like a lot of liberals don’t like getting taste of their own medicine. They aren’t used to seeing conservatives with jobs, responsibilities and families angry enough to actually protest. I’m sure that underneath the whole “I don’t care about those protestors” type of ‘tude, there’s some genuine concern that the gains they’ve made in 06 and 08 could be pissed away very quickly. These aren’t unemployed bums throwing fits to get free stuff @ someone elses expense. They’re people sick of being ripped off by their government. Our new admin has been a trainwreck so far.
I have to wonder, why if these tea parties are so insignificant do you feel the need to constantly give them attention by posting about them?
I’m guessing because they’re so much fun to mock (see also: Stew, Jonny-).
Hey yo mama, how’s things in The Big Gulch? Did Atlas ever shrug? Will you let us know when He does? Thanks in advance.
Looks more like a lot of liberals don’t like getting taste of their own medicine. They aren’t used to seeing conservatives with jobs, responsibilities and families angry enough to actually protest.
Anti-war protesters marched by the hundreds of thousands, so we’re merely pointing out that a “big” conservative protest is like, 1% of the average liberal protest. For some reason conservatives seem to think that their “quality” outranks liberal “quantity.” Or something.
And just so you know, I’m proud of my life choices. I own my company, I am an Army vet (see above), I work six days a week, still married to my first wife, our kid is a straight-A college student, and I can go to any country in the world and see my personal influence on modern culture. I’m the kind of people that built this country, and you are the kind working hard to destroy it. I would love to see a list of YOUR personal accomplishments.
“For some reason conservatives seem to think that their “quality” outranks liberal “quantity.”
Pretty much it. You won’t find a bunch of stoners looking for the hip, “cause of the day” @ any of these tea parties. I’ve also noticed that most liberal protests have a hard time coming up with a cohesive message when they take to the streets. It ends up being a giant who’s who of leftists with an axe to grind against this country. And yes, some like ANSWER, World Worker’s party, and a variety of Palestinian activist groups come off as a tad bit looney. Let’s not forget about the naked protestors that show up….protesting….well, whatever.
I’m positive that when liberals see groups of normal, down-to-earth people protesting, it alarms them becuase it doesn’t usually happen. These are the people that made this country great, THEY are the ones that really have the power – not mobs of liberal constituents demanding freebees. We can cut off the funds really quick if we want to. Remember that. LOL! And this is just the beginning. The tea parties show the level of anger and disgust that people that normally would never protest have right now towards this admin robbing us blind. Like it or not, there’s more tea parties to come too. So mock away. Your ridicule is meaningless. And it shows that you’re threatened by this movement, whether you admit it or not.
yo mama: These aren’t unemployed bums throwing fits to get free stuff @ someone elses expense. They’re people sick of being ripped off by their government.
Ah, so their anger has been building over time. They’re sick of being ripped off by their government. That suggests their anger has been building over time and they’ve finally had enough. Now, let’s see, who’s been running the government for the last several years…
yo mama: THEY are the ones that really have the power
They have the power? Then why don’t they actually change things? Are they protesting against themselves?
Cool!
Sean D. Martin….
The power to cut off funds if they so choose, which is another idea that scares leftists to death. You won’t be able to rip us off so you can hand freebees to deadbeats in order to get their votes if we don’t allow you to. That is the truth. Not to that point yet, but we’ve had about enough of the feds screwing things up and ripping us off. And now people are speaking up. I thought Bush was fiscally irresponsible, but in a matter two months, we’ve seen the Obama admin reach a level of incompetence and fiscal irresponsibility not seen by humanity. We’d be better off with the Gambino crime family running things.
I anxiously await your reasons as to why I shouldn’t be worried about Captain Trillions putting my great-grandkids in debt before they’re born. He’s actually worse than Bush, and I didn’t think that was hardly possible on fiscal issues. Everyone – liberals AND conservatives – were unhappy with spending under Bush, and this dolt comes along and makes it look like a drop in the bucket. But it’s ok though right….he has a (D) behind his name.
yo mama, you continue to amaze me with your ability to just not make any kind of consistent sense.
Sean it makes sense, you’re just not very bright. Sorry my friend, but that’s the obvious truth. I couldn’t have made my point any clearer or simpler than I did in the above post.
I will return some other time.
So mock away.
Well, okay, if you say so.
Oh, and thanks again for your service yo mama…in the War on Straw.
I will return some other time.
Keep bringing the Unintentional Comedy when you do. Thanks in advance.
“They didn’t exactly accomplish their mission.”
Tell that to the dozens of Republican politicians who got thrown out on their sorry asses in 2006 and 2008. Tell that to John McCain, a man who literally made a “100 year” commitment to our failed occupation of Iraq.
So, the whole point of the war was to get Republicans out of office? Why’s Obama now playing games with ending the war, semantics about “combat” troops, and the like?
On the flip side, let’s look at those anti-war protests. How many banners for International ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism), a Communist group) are there? How many other Marxists and Communists show up?
The Democrats have had the ability to end the war for a very long time — since at least 2006. They held the purse strings, they could have ended the funding for the war at any point in the last two years.
Gives a bit of credence to the assertion that the anti-war movement, at least for some, wasn’t about ending the war, but about gaining political power.
J.
The Democrats have had the ability to end the war for a very long time — since at least 2006. They held the purse strings, they could have ended the funding for the war at any point in the last two years.
Jay, stop being a douchebag. You know just as well as I do that if they had done that, you would’ve whined about them “endangering the troops”. They knew that, I knew that, and you knew that.
On the flip side, let’s look at those anti-war protests. How many banners for International ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism), a Communist group) are there? How many other Marxists and Communists show up?
What evidence do you have that they’re a “communist” group? Besides that you disagree with them, which is moot, since you’ve been wrong about everything.
Oh and if you don’t like comparisons to socialism, perhaps President Obama shouldn’t be putting forth proposals to regulate compensation packages financial firms negotiate with their employees. Get a clue: The answer to problems is not always a new government program. I know liberals have a tough time understanding this concept, but it’s true.
Only when you admit that privatizing everything isn’t a valid solution. (Not holding my breath).
LPWWTBVFHPBTMFTPAAELOWTIGITPBTLTTIFOVGPAB
Yeah, you do that.
It ends up being a giant who’s who of leftists with an axe to grind against this country
This is coming from the guy who was pissing himself with joy about America looking bad. So yeah…
Your ridicule is meaningless. And it shows that you’re threatened by this movement, whether you admit it or not.
Just like how we were supposedly afraid of Fred Thompson, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, etc.? Yeah, tell me how “teabagging the White House” turns out.
Sorry for the double post, but this one’s too good to pass up:
I anxiously await your reasons as to why I shouldn’t be worried about Captain Trillions putting my great-grandkids in debt before they’re born.
Something tells me this won’t be an issue.
Get a clue: The answer to problems is not always a new government program.
Sure. But then, Free Market Jesus can’t solve all our problems either. And in this case, we’re cleaning up after the free market kegger.
I’m positive that when liberals see groups of normal, down-to-earth people protesting, it alarms them becuase it doesn’t usually happen.>i>
Are you JOKING?
What about all those normal, down to earth people like myself and my mom (the then 83-year old former Liberty Ship worker and lifetime Registered Nurse) who opposed the Iraq war?
I’m an Army vet, and the closest you ever came to SERVING YOUR COUNTRY was to join a conservative protest? Just for comparison, what is the biggest sacrifice YOU have made in the name of patriotism?
If any.
I have a long string of personal accomplishments that I’ll be glad to compare with your own. Want me to start? One of my claims to fame is that I was famous bicyclist before you were born. I can give you a list of books you can read about me in if you wish, or you could click the link and check out my website. I’m 63 damn years old, and I would bet the rent I can kick your ass on a bike. As soon as you get those training wheels off.
Your turn. Did you ever do anything that anyone noticed?
Damn tag…
Why would the Dems cut off spending for the Iraq occupation? That would have been deeply irresponsible.
Of course, a troglodyte like Jay can’t even fathom that a political party is capable of acting both in its own interests and in the interests of the American people at the same time. Republicans, of course, are incapable of this insight.
/cue Jay: ZOMG I’M LIKE TOTALLY NOT A REPUBLICAN GAWD.
You are truly the comedy gift that keeps on giving, Jay. Now get those urine stained sheets off your bed so mom can wash them for you.
I thought the bankruptcy courts were the ones who usually cleaned up after the free market kegger. Whatever mechanisms the market had to clean up this mess were short circuited by TARP and then had their breaker box pulled out like a stump by the stimulus.
Thank you for your service Repack Rider. I’m assuming that you were one of the many protesters wanting to bring the troops home, not one of the protesters openly supporting fratricide, fragging, or those whose mission was to kill American servicemen and women.
If you were the former why would I want to question your patriotism? What possible reason would there be for me to do so? We don’t happen to have the same opinion. It happens.
If you were one of the latter, go fuck yourself you unpatriotic [word too harsh for Michael Over Here's sensitive eyes].
I never have, and never will, question the patriotism of people who disagree with me simply because I disagree with them. What I do question in regards to the anti-war movement is this assertion that they were successful. If their goal was to end war, or even end a specific war, they have failed miserably. If the goal was to provide the Democratic Party with a slim majority in congress, which they would then use to not accomplish anything, Mission Accomplished (If they want to celebrate that I know where they can get a banner, only used once). Repack, I’m curious if you and your mother spent the day at that protest so that Nancy Pelosi could have a bigger office from which to ignore the people’s business. Was that the point?
Nothing that could be proven in a court of law.
You honestly don’t see a difference between a neocon presidency under Chimpy McBunnypants and what we’ve got now?
I’m sure there are some people who are upset Obama isn’t doing an overnight type of withdrawal. But for the most part, the majority of Americans support a phased withdrawal along the lines of what Obama is going to do. This makes those opposed to the occupation of Iraq (i.e., the vast majority of Americans) fairly satisfied.
Mission Accomplished.
Our new admin has been a trainwreck so far.
No. This administration is struggling to get the train back on the track after the last guys ran it off the rails.
I’m assuming that you were one of the many protesters wanting to bring the troops home, not one of the protesters openly supporting fratricide, fragging, or those whose mission was to kill American servicemen and women.
Wow, those people sound truly awful. Did any of them actually exist? If so, you should call them out post haste.
yo mama: Sean it makes sense, you’re just not very bright.
Given the extent to which reality is pretty much the opposite of what your comments (to the extent they can be deciphered to make any kind of consistent sense) I’ll take that as a compliment.
Thank you for your service Repack Rider. I’m assuming that you were one of the many protesters wanting to bring the troops home, not one of the protesters openly supporting fratricide, fragging, or those whose mission was to kill American servicemen and women.
You are not old enough to know any more about that era than what others have told you. And they must have lied.
After my Army service I spent ten years as a roadie for a San Francisco rock band, probably the center of the hippie, anti-war universe. Everyone I knew opposed the war. I saw plenty of anti-war protests, and I never met, heard about, or even read about those “Sasquatch” protesters that you have described. After all, everyone knows that, like Sasquatch, they must exist because so many people talk about them, but no one has ever really seen one, except for the cousin of my friend’s mom, or maybe her cousin’s friend.
I’m calling you on your urban legend protesters, which are a propaganda image created by cowards who never served either. Why don’t you conjure up a contemporaneous news article to prove that such protesters actually existed, and that I must have just missed them.
Yeah. I’d like to see SFC B provide some sort of support for that, because he’s seriously blowing shit and showing just how worthless his comments are otherwise.
I’m not old enough to have remembered the Iraq protests? Granted, I was but a twinkle in my father’s eye back in the late 60s, early 70s, I was alive and well from 2003-current.
Let’s see… Put the gun down or turn it around, Support Resistance in Iraq, Burning a Soldier in effigy., and Fuck the Troops. I’d also link to the Zombietime “Best of” but it isn’t exactly SFW since it features images from the various naked protests.
Ask and ye shall receive. Did y’all really have no idea that such sentiments were made public at some anti-war protests?
As some have said, sometimes they’re not anti-war. They’re on the other side.
Um, I had already been in the Army for 8 years before Iraq. I’ve seen the anti-Iraq protests.
I tried to do embedded links for these, but it kept eating them…
Video of protesters burning a Soldier in effigy while singing about killing them: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=20601984&postID=5094701947794759184
“fuck the troops”: https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=20601984&postID=2984056473385294574
Advocating fragging (for those not in the know fragging is the killing of your leaders): http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/portland-protesters-call-for-fragging.html
Ask and ye shall receive.
Did y’all really not know that sentiments like this were openly, proudly even, showcased at the anti-war protests? As some have said, they’re not all anti-war, some are just on the opposite side.
Um, I had already been in the Army for 8 years before Iraq. I’ve seen the anti-Iraq protests.
I tried to do embedded links for these, but it kept eating them…
If you check out Zombietime’s best of you’ll see protesters supporting resistance in Iraq and the death of Marines in Fallujah. A look through Google Images for protesters will showcase supportive sentiments like fragging, burning Soldiers in effigy while chanting about killing them, calling troops murders, and many other patriotic sayings.
Did y’all really not know that sentiments like this were openly, proudly even, showcased at the anti-war protests? As some have said, they’re not all anti-war, some are just on the opposite side.
[word too harsh for Michael Over Here's sensitive eyes].
You sure do think of this word a lot. Or are you going to go on another one of your ‘witty’ screeds about how you really really aren’t gay.
I say use that word all you want. Use it in every post. It adds so much credence to your opinions. Makes you seem like a big strong man.
If their goal was to end war, or even end a specific war, they have failed miserably. If the goal was to provide the Democratic Party with a slim majority in congress, which they would then use to not accomplish anything, Mission Accomplished
Seriously, your already tenuous connection to reality seems to be fraying SFC B.
I had already been in the Army for 8 years before Iraq. I’ve seen the anti-Iraq protests.
My math says that you must have been born around 1970, which means that any opinion you have about the anti-Vietnam war protesters are not first hand like mine are.
Yet you try to tell me that I;m wrong about the events I saw and that you only heard about years later.
Seriously, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
One of my high school classmates (we were both National Merit Scholars) served in Vietnam as the commander of a Marine rifle platoon. When Bush started lying to get us into Iraq, you never met a more passionate anti-war protester than this guy. Like me, he is 63 years old now, still a big wave surfer, and I would buy a ticket to see you question HIS patriotism.
When have I said anything about Vietnam-era protests?
When did I say you were wrong about any event? You said I was lying and demanded proof of protesters calling for the death of American Soldiers. I provided it. Oh… wait… I guess that would be me showing you that you were wrong. Is that the same as telling you you’re wrong? What’s the etiquette on that?
When I have said I questioned your patriotism RR, let alone your friend’s? Seriously dude, enough with the persecution complex.
Sean, what’s the logical fallacy when someone tries to get you to rebut a charge you never made in the first place? I think RR and the “questioning patriotism” is one of those.
When have I said anything about Vietnam-era protests?
You asked whether I was one of “those” war protesters, which you proceeded to describe harshly. Since this followed my statement that I had joined the anti-Vietnam protests as soon as I was a civilian, I drew the obvious conclusion that you were referring to the protests, because those protesters were vilified in exactly the same fashion.
Am I sensing a pattern here?
Now it seems you were referring to protests for Iraq, in which I was joined by my 83-year old former Liberty Ship worker mom and my then 58-year old former Marine lieutenant classmate, all of us patriotic in the extreme.
If people who we do not agree with politically on other subjects also opposed the war then we can all agree that whatever they were wrong about, they were right about that.
SFC, if you heard that a war protester loved his mother, would you quit loving yours? If a war protester turns out to be a racist jerk, it doesn’t make me one, and it doesn’t make him wrong about the war.
Preview is your friend.
Unfortunatly you didn’t read what I actually wrote: Repack, I’m curious if you and your mother spent the day at that protest… to try and make it clear I was referring to the Anti-Iraq War protests and not whatever you had done previously since you made a specific reference to attending an anti-Iraq protest with your mom.