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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143160</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;every time joaquin or similar gets all “mocking” about “hope and change!” I keep wanting to ask them if their platform was supposed to be “everything’s fine!”&lt;/i&gt;

Stay the Course©!

&lt;i&gt;I never thought I’d see a website designed so poorly that the guy behind timecube.com would say, “Damn that’s a mess”.&lt;/i&gt;

:-D FTW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>every time joaquin or similar gets all “mocking” about “hope and change!” I keep wanting to ask them if their platform was supposed to be “everything’s fine!”</i></p>
<p>Stay the Course©!</p>
<p><i>I never thought I’d see a website designed so poorly that the guy behind timecube.com would say, “Damn that’s a mess”.</i></p>
<p> <img src='http://www.oliverwillis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  FTW</p>
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		<title>By: Crusty Dem</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143113</link>
		<dc:creator>Crusty Dem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of you having problems with Mr. Reference&#039;s website obviously aren&#039;t viewing it on a 250&quot; plasma monitor, then the only problem is that the font is a little too big..  I never thought I&#039;d see a website designed so poorly that the guy behind timecube.com would say, &quot;Damn that&#039;s a mess&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you having problems with Mr. Reference&#8217;s website obviously aren&#8217;t viewing it on a 250&#8243; plasma monitor, then the only problem is that the font is a little too big..  I never thought I&#8217;d see a website designed so poorly that the guy behind timecube.com would say, &#8220;Damn that&#8217;s a mess&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143112</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, every time joaquin or similar gets all &quot;mocking&quot; about &quot;hope and change!&quot; I keep wanting to ask them if their platform was supposed to be &quot;everything&#039;s fine!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, every time joaquin or similar gets all &#8220;mocking&#8221; about &#8220;hope and change!&#8221; I keep wanting to ask them if their platform was supposed to be &#8220;everything&#8217;s fine!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143111</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Quacks like Quaker aren&#039;t interested in a &quot;debate,&quot; they&#039;re in the business of defending highway robbery.&lt;/em&gt;

You must be new here. We&#039;ll overlook your rookie errors.

This time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Quacks like Quaker aren&#8217;t interested in a &#8220;debate,&#8221; they&#8217;re in the business of defending highway robbery.</em></p>
<p>You must be new here. We&#8217;ll overlook your rookie errors.</p>
<p>This time.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143110</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Quacks like Quaker aren</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Over Here</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143085</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Over Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I tried it with 3D Specs and it all makes sense, now!&lt;/i&gt;



Are you sure you weren&#039;t wearing the sunglasses from that John Carpenter movie &lt;i&gt;They Live&lt;/i&gt;? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I tried it with 3D Specs and it all makes sense, now!</i></p>
<p>Are you sure you weren&#8217;t wearing the sunglasses from that John Carpenter movie <i>They Live</i>? </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143083</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael O H: &lt;i&gt;Ze goggles do nothing!&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;ve got the wrong goggles, then.  I tried it with 3D Specs and it all makes sense, now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael O H: <i>Ze goggles do nothing!</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got the wrong goggles, then.  I tried it with 3D Specs and it all makes sense, now!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Over Here</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143082</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Over Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Holy crap, that is the worst web page i have ever seen.&lt;/i&gt;

My eyes! Ze goggles do nothing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Holy crap, that is the worst web page i have ever seen.</i></p>
<p>My eyes! Ze goggles do nothing!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143076</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duros62: &lt;i&gt;Holy crap, that is the worst web page i have ever seen.&lt;/i&gt;

This is off topic and not responding to any of News Reference&#039;s points, but I gots to agree with Duros.  Good Lord, but that does look like a sample of &quot;Things not to do on your website&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duros62: <i>Holy crap, that is the worst web page i have ever seen.</i></p>
<p>This is off topic and not responding to any of News Reference&#8217;s points, but I gots to agree with Duros.  Good Lord, but that does look like a sample of &#8220;Things not to do on your website&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143074</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joaquin: &lt;i&gt;I’m not easily impressed…………&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joaquin: <i>I’m not easily impressed…………</i></p>
<p>Yes, you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143067</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap, that is the worst web page i have ever seen.

Mr. Reference, you didn&#039;t pay someone to do that to you, did you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap, that is the worst web page i have ever seen.</p>
<p>Mr. Reference, you didn&#8217;t pay someone to do that to you, did you?</p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143065</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Quaker&lt;/i&gt; says: &quot;Of course they’re [AIG] paying out money to counterparties.&quot;

To be clear &quot;they&#039;re [AIG]&quot; not paying it. American taxpayers are.

&lt;i&gt;Quaker&lt;/i&gt;: &quot;Should the counterparties be taking something less than the contracted amount?&quot;

That&#039;s the funny thing in capitalism, if you make bad bets, like insuring yourself with a fraudulent insurance company, then you take your lumps when it fails. No payouts to you, sir.

But Republicans Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush force fed America right wing corporatism, the through the looking glass opposite of socialism. Taxpayers still pay (just like socialism) but it goes to millionaire and billionaire banksters instead of the recently out of work single mom next door trying to pay her rent and feed her kids.

Quacks like Quaker aren&#039;t interested in a &quot;debate,&quot; they&#039;re in the business of defending highway robbery.

&lt;i&gt;Quaker&lt;/i&gt;: &quot;For a fee, AIG assumes the risk of default on a loan agreement.&quot;

FALSE. AIG didn&#039;t have the assets to cover their bets (the &#039;risks&#039;). AIG wasn&#039;t in the &quot;insurance&quot; business so much as it was in the fraudulent gambling business. AIG PRETENDED to cover the &quot;risks&quot; but never had the capital to cover it&#039;s gambles.

In a &quot;real&quot; capitalist system, everyone that gambled with them would be out of luck (technically: S.O.L.). In the movies, a thug would show up at the AIG executives mansions and &quot;explain&quot; that covering your gamble is part of the game.

Quacker, it sounds like you&#039;re trying to defend the fraudulent system the right wingers called the &quot;free market.&quot;

It was never a &quot;free market.&quot; &quot;Freedom&quot; implies that I would have the &quot;freedom&quot; from being held hostage by banksters like AIG (and Goldman Sachs) from they&#039;re bad gambles. Instead, they&#039;ve got a gun to the head of every American and are saying that if they don&#039;t get trillions of dollars immediately then they&#039;ll pull the trigger and the entire global financial system will collapse.

And Quacker, you are defending that theft.

Funny, right wingers go ballistic if a lefty defends someone who stole a loaf of bread to feed their children. We have more people in prison in America than any country on the planet because of right wing intolerance for such infractions.

But right wingers can defend banksters stealing trillions and even defend those same banksters who are threatening the financial well-being of every American in the country.

Right wingers have pretended that in the con they mislabel the &quot;free market&quot; that bad business people would be punished. That means that everyone at AIG would be financially wiped out and would have to compete with the unemployed mom next door for a loaf of bread.

Instead, the right wing gamed the system, and their buddies, the bad business people who robbed the country, are walking away with, literally, trillions of US taxpayer dollars.

And right wing Quacks, either because of predaciousness or cognitive dissonance, defend the con.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Quaker</i> says: &#8220;Of course they’re [AIG] paying out money to counterparties.&#8221;</p>
<p>To be clear &#8220;they&#8217;re [AIG]&#8221; not paying it. American taxpayers are.</p>
<p><i>Quaker</i>: &#8220;Should the counterparties be taking something less than the contracted amount?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the funny thing in capitalism, if you make bad bets, like insuring yourself with a fraudulent insurance company, then you take your lumps when it fails. No payouts to you, sir.</p>
<p>But Republicans Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush force fed America right wing corporatism, the through the looking glass opposite of socialism. Taxpayers still pay (just like socialism) but it goes to millionaire and billionaire banksters instead of the recently out of work single mom next door trying to pay her rent and feed her kids.</p>
<p>Quacks like Quaker aren&#8217;t interested in a &#8220;debate,&#8221; they&#8217;re in the business of defending highway robbery.</p>
<p><i>Quaker</i>: &#8220;For a fee, AIG assumes the risk of default on a loan agreement.&#8221;</p>
<p>FALSE. AIG didn&#8217;t have the assets to cover their bets (the &#8216;risks&#8217;). AIG wasn&#8217;t in the &#8220;insurance&#8221; business so much as it was in the fraudulent gambling business. AIG PRETENDED to cover the &#8220;risks&#8221; but never had the capital to cover it&#8217;s gambles.</p>
<p>In a &#8220;real&#8221; capitalist system, everyone that gambled with them would be out of luck (technically: S.O.L.). In the movies, a thug would show up at the AIG executives mansions and &#8220;explain&#8221; that covering your gamble is part of the game.</p>
<p>Quacker, it sounds like you&#8217;re trying to defend the fraudulent system the right wingers called the &#8220;free market.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was never a &#8220;free market.&#8221; &#8220;Freedom&#8221; implies that I would have the &#8220;freedom&#8221; from being held hostage by banksters like AIG (and Goldman Sachs) from they&#8217;re bad gambles. Instead, they&#8217;ve got a gun to the head of every American and are saying that if they don&#8217;t get trillions of dollars immediately then they&#8217;ll pull the trigger and the entire global financial system will collapse.</p>
<p>And Quacker, you are defending that theft.</p>
<p>Funny, right wingers go ballistic if a lefty defends someone who stole a loaf of bread to feed their children. We have more people in prison in America than any country on the planet because of right wing intolerance for such infractions.</p>
<p>But right wingers can defend banksters stealing trillions and even defend those same banksters who are threatening the financial well-being of every American in the country.</p>
<p>Right wingers have pretended that in the con they mislabel the &#8220;free market&#8221; that bad business people would be punished. That means that everyone at AIG would be financially wiped out and would have to compete with the unemployed mom next door for a loaf of bread.</p>
<p>Instead, the right wing gamed the system, and their buddies, the bad business people who robbed the country, are walking away with, literally, trillions of US taxpayer dollars.</p>
<p>And right wing Quacks, either because of predaciousness or cognitive dissonance, defend the con.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143023</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;on the other end of the credit default swaps AIG had outstanding, not as much the insurance contracts &lt;/em&gt;

CDSs &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; insurance contracts. For a fee, AIG assumes the risk of default on a loan agreement. If you want to define CDSs as something separate from insurance, fine. But they were an ordinary part of AIGs ongoing business. That the company uses bailout money to pay out their obligations shouldn&#039;t surprise anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>on the other end of the credit default swaps AIG had outstanding, not as much the insurance contracts </em></p>
<p>CDSs <em>are</em> insurance contracts. For a fee, AIG assumes the risk of default on a loan agreement. If you want to define CDSs as something separate from insurance, fine. But they were an ordinary part of AIGs ongoing business. That the company uses bailout money to pay out their obligations shouldn&#8217;t surprise anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143020</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QIB-

The counterparties for the most part are the other financial institutions, corporations and municipalities that were on the other end of the credit default swaps AIG had outstanding, not as much the insurance contracts I believe.</description>
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<p>The counterparties for the most part are the other financial institutions, corporations and municipalities that were on the other end of the credit default swaps AIG had outstanding, not as much the insurance contracts I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143015</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the outrage over AIG&#039;s bailout money going to (gasp!) counterparties!1! is a bit overdramatic, don&#039;t you think?

I mean, what do you think an insurance company&#039;s operating expenses are? Of course they&#039;re paying out money to counterparties. That&#039;s what insurance companies do.

Should the counterparties be taking something less than the contracted amount? Well, that&#039;s something to debate. But the idea that an insurance company is doing something wrong by redeeming the insurance contracts it wrote is just dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the outrage over AIG&#8217;s bailout money going to (gasp!) counterparties!1! is a bit overdramatic, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>I mean, what do you think an insurance company&#8217;s operating expenses are? Of course they&#8217;re paying out money to counterparties. That&#8217;s what insurance companies do.</p>
<p>Should the counterparties be taking something less than the contracted amount? Well, that&#8217;s something to debate. But the idea that an insurance company is doing something wrong by redeeming the insurance contracts it wrote is just dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: joaquin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143010</link>
		<dc:creator>joaquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama rides the populist rage to the White House. Now in a quandary over how to play his cards.

Like Marcia Brady in a pickle because she has committed to two dates to the same prom.


A CLASSIC BY DENNIS!!!!!!!!!
I&#039;m not easily impressed..................BUT I&#039;M IMPRESSED!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama rides the populist rage to the White House. Now in a quandary over how to play his cards.</p>
<p>Like Marcia Brady in a pickle because she has committed to two dates to the same prom.</p>
<p>A CLASSIC BY DENNIS!!!!!!!!!<br />
I&#8217;m not easily impressed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;BUT I&#8217;M IMPRESSED!!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Sipple</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143008</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Sipple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Dennis, you really told us.  Wow.  Burn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Dennis, you really told us.  Wow.  Burn.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143004</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama rides the populist rage to the White House.  Now in a quandary over how to play his cards.

Like Marcia Brady in a pickle because she has committed to two dates to the same prom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama rides the populist rage to the White House.  Now in a quandary over how to play his cards.</p>
<p>Like Marcia Brady in a pickle because she has committed to two dates to the same prom.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-143003</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, its totally Barack Obama&#039;s fault that the Bush administration gave AIG a no strings attached bailout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, its totally Barack Obama&#8217;s fault that the Bush administration gave AIG a no strings attached bailout.</p>
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		<title>By: joaquin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/16/urging-aig/#comment-142971</link>
		<dc:creator>joaquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parthenon, you caught me! I do have the president&#039;s ear. 
If you&#039;d like, I can set up a conference call with you, Obama, and I, then you can give him a piece of your mind. 
eh eh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parthenon, you caught me! I do have the president&#8217;s ear.<br />
If you&#8217;d like, I can set up a conference call with you, Obama, and I, then you can give him a piece of your mind.<br />
eh eh!</p>
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