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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-143122</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SaveFarris: “This was all covered in the second day of Econ 101.”

Me: &quot;Did you take Econ 101?&quot;

I&#039;ll take that as a no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaveFarris: “This was all covered in the second day of Econ 101.”</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Did you take Econ 101?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take that as a no.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-143071</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SaveFarris says: &quot;Marginal value is for whole dollars, not %. For every % more you tax, that % of dollars is no longer eligible to be spent by the taxpayer for the goods &amp; services they desire. So raising tax rates absolutly leads to decreased private sector spending.&quot;

If you raise the tax rate of someone making $250k by 1% they will not reduce their spending by $2.5k. Additionally, they will reduce their spending by less than if you take five people earning $50k and raise each of their tax rates by 1%. 

&quot;This was all covered in the second day of Econ 101.&quot;

Did you take Econ 101?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaveFarris says: &#8220;Marginal value is for whole dollars, not %. For every % more you tax, that % of dollars is no longer eligible to be spent by the taxpayer for the goods &amp; services they desire. So raising tax rates absolutly leads to decreased private sector spending.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you raise the tax rate of someone making $250k by 1% they will not reduce their spending by $2.5k. Additionally, they will reduce their spending by less than if you take five people earning $50k and raise each of their tax rates by 1%. </p>
<p>&#8220;This was all covered in the second day of Econ 101.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you take Econ 101?</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-143063</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marginal value is for whole dollars, not %.  For every % more you tax, that % of dollars is no longer eligible to be spent by the taxpayer for the goods &amp; services they desire.  So raising tax rates absolutly leads to decreased private sector spending.

This was all covered in the second day of Econ 101.  Were you sick that day?  (To be fair, you weren&#039;t the only one.  We also covered supply and demand that day.  And every sports columnist in the country appears to have missed that nugget as well.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marginal value is for whole dollars, not %.  For every % more you tax, that % of dollars is no longer eligible to be spent by the taxpayer for the goods &amp; services they desire.  So raising tax rates absolutly leads to decreased private sector spending.</p>
<p>This was all covered in the second day of Econ 101.  Were you sick that day?  (To be fair, you weren&#8217;t the only one.  We also covered supply and demand that day.  And every sports columnist in the country appears to have missed that nugget as well.)</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-143045</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is just the beginning.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090316/NEWS0108/903160337

Make all the snide remarks you want. I’ve told you what is going to eventually happen. The socialists and their power grab will be cut off.&lt;/i&gt;

Once again, yo comes out in favor of armed insurrection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is just the beginning.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090316/NEWS0108/903160337" rel="nofollow">http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090316/NEWS0108/903160337</a></p>
<p>Make all the snide remarks you want. I’ve told you what is going to eventually happen. The socialists and their power grab will be cut off.</i></p>
<p>Once again, yo comes out in favor of armed insurrection.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-143028</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SaveFarris says: &quot;Higher taxes doesn’t lead to decreased spending?&quot;

It doesn&#039;t lead to as big of a difference the more you earn.

See...

&quot;And there is a difference in how the same marginal rates affect spending between income groups.&quot;

When trying to understand what someone says, you should take into account previous posts as well. 

Simple put...

If you charge 1% more in taxes from a person making $250k a year, they will reduce their spending a lot less than if you increase the taxes of someone making $50k a year by 1%. 

Look up the term, &quot;Declining marginal value&quot; and do some research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaveFarris says: &#8220;Higher taxes doesn’t lead to decreased spending?&#8221;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t lead to as big of a difference the more you earn.</p>
<p>See&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;And there is a difference in how the same marginal rates affect spending between income groups.&#8221;</p>
<p>When trying to understand what someone says, you should take into account previous posts as well. </p>
<p>Simple put&#8230;</p>
<p>If you charge 1% more in taxes from a person making $250k a year, they will reduce their spending a lot less than if you increase the taxes of someone making $50k a year by 1%. </p>
<p>Look up the term, &#8220;Declining marginal value&#8221; and do some research.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack J.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-143014</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Avg. growth of budget under Obama: 17% (</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Avg. growth of budget under Obama: 17% (</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-143013</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter SaveFarris: The Iraq Invasion was a bargain! The U.S. couldn&#039;t afford not to invade!</description>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-143006</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tell me O Great Economics Wizard CSS, if the 250K+ people have to pay more taxes, where will that money come from? That money is currently either&lt;/i&gt;

I can&#039;t believe we&#039;re still having this conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Tell me O Great Economics Wizard CSS, if the 250K+ people have to pay more taxes, where will that money come from? That money is currently either</i></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe we&#8217;re still having this conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-143005</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shorter ed/parthenon:  Hey, look at that straw over there!!

Longer answer:  If you want to go back to the 90&#039;s, don&#039;t forget the other part of the equation.  

Avg. growth of budget under Clinton: 4% (1.41T --&gt; 1.87T)
Avg. growth of budget under Bush: 7% (2T --&gt; 3.1T)
Avg. growth of budget under Obama: 17% (--&gt; 3.6T)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shorter ed/parthenon:  Hey, look at that straw over there!!</p>
<p>Longer answer:  If you want to go back to the 90&#8242;s, don&#8217;t forget the other part of the equation.  </p>
<p>Avg. growth of budget under Clinton: 4% (1.41T &#8211;&gt; 1.87T)<br />
Avg. growth of budget under Bush: 7% (2T &#8211;&gt; 3.1T)<br />
Avg. growth of budget under Obama: 17% (&#8211;&gt; 3.6T)</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-142999</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Farris: Life sure sucked in America during the 90s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Farris: Life sure sucked in America during the 90s.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-142998</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter SaveFarris: George Bush, Jr. inherited a budget surplus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter SaveFarris: George Bush, Jr. inherited a budget surplus?</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-142997</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Higher taxes doesn&#039;t lead to decreased spending?  What, do these guys have money trees growing in their backyard?!?  

Tell me O Great Economics Wizard CSS, if the 250K+ people have to pay more taxes, where will that money come from?  That money is currently either 

A) being used to buy &quot;extravagent&quot; luxuries like HDTVs, yachts, and Vegas vacations.  By increasing taxes, you&#039;re harming the TV and yahct manufacturers and the Vegas tourism industry.

B) Being invested into their business via paying for employees or equipment.  Increasing taxes wiil then lead to either higher unemployment or decreases in productivity as equpiment cannot be replaced.

C) Invested in banks, stocks, mutual funds, whathaveyou.  This allows OTHER companies to spend on employment and equpment.  See Item B for tax increase repercussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Higher taxes doesn&#8217;t lead to decreased spending?  What, do these guys have money trees growing in their backyard?!?  </p>
<p>Tell me O Great Economics Wizard CSS, if the 250K+ people have to pay more taxes, where will that money come from?  That money is currently either </p>
<p>A) being used to buy &#8220;extravagent&#8221; luxuries like HDTVs, yachts, and Vegas vacations.  By increasing taxes, you&#8217;re harming the TV and yahct manufacturers and the Vegas tourism industry.</p>
<p>B) Being invested into their business via paying for employees or equipment.  Increasing taxes wiil then lead to either higher unemployment or decreases in productivity as equpiment cannot be replaced.</p>
<p>C) Invested in banks, stocks, mutual funds, whathaveyou.  This allows OTHER companies to spend on employment and equpment.  See Item B for tax increase repercussions.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-142995</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo mama says: &quot;This is just the beginning.&quot;
&quot;Make all the snide remarks you want.&quot;

How about just quoting the story...

&quot;Cincinnati police said unofficially that about 4,000 protesters showed up Sunday, less than the 6,000-plus people lead organizer Mike Wilson had projected.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo mama says: &#8220;This is just the beginning.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Make all the snide remarks you want.&#8221;</p>
<p>How about just quoting the story&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Cincinnati police said unofficially that about 4,000 protesters showed up Sunday, less than the 6,000-plus people lead organizer Mike Wilson had projected.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-142993</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Make all the snide remarks you want.&lt;/i&gt;

No thanks, I&#039;m good. But I appreciate the offer. 

&lt;/i&gt;The socialists and their power grab will be cut off.&lt;/i&gt;

What &quot;power grab&quot; are you talking about? The way I heard it, there was an election and Obama* won decisively. 

Hey, yo mama, where are you? Are you at your Objectivist Utopia yet? If so, does it totally kick ass? Is everybody there totally cool and everything? 


*not a Socialist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Make all the snide remarks you want.</i></p>
<p>No thanks, I&#8217;m good. But I appreciate the offer. </p>
<p>The socialists and their power grab will be cut off.</p>
<p>What &#8220;power grab&#8221; are you talking about? The way I heard it, there was an election and Obama* won decisively. </p>
<p>Hey, yo mama, where are you? Are you at your Objectivist Utopia yet? If so, does it totally kick ass? Is everybody there totally cool and everything? </p>
<p>*not a Socialist</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-142990</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SaveFarris says: &quot;According to CSS, the people making over 250K a year do not affect the economy by their spending. Got it.&quot;

SaveFarris... Stupid or lying? 

Both. It has to be both. 

People making over $250k won&#039;t reduce their spending if they are asked to pay a few cents more and every dollar they earn over $250k. It&#039;s not that complicated, and you should have learned it first year of university economics. 

... What? You didn&#039;t take economics in university? 

Well. I&#039;m shocked. The way you and your fellow right-wingers keep talking about the subject here, I assumed you had some formal education in the matter. 

My mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaveFarris says: &#8220;According to CSS, the people making over 250K a year do not affect the economy by their spending. Got it.&#8221;</p>
<p>SaveFarris&#8230; Stupid or lying? </p>
<p>Both. It has to be both. </p>
<p>People making over $250k won&#8217;t reduce their spending if they are asked to pay a few cents more and every dollar they earn over $250k. It&#8217;s not that complicated, and you should have learned it first year of university economics. </p>
<p>&#8230; What? You didn&#8217;t take economics in university? </p>
<p>Well. I&#8217;m shocked. The way you and your fellow right-wingers keep talking about the subject here, I assumed you had some formal education in the matter. </p>
<p>My mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: yo mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>yo mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just the beginning.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090316/NEWS0108/903160337

Make all the snide remarks you want. I&#039;ve told you what is going to eventually happen. The socialists and their power grab will be cut off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just the beginning.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090316/NEWS0108/903160337" rel="nofollow">http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090316/NEWS0108/903160337</a></p>
<p>Make all the snide remarks you want. I&#8217;ve told you what is going to eventually happen. The socialists and their power grab will be cut off.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-142987</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And ed makes my point for me. The top 5% are being asked to pay their “fair share”. The bottom 95% are not. Thanks ed!&lt;/i&gt;

Shorter SaveFarris: The concept of the decreasing marginal utility of money eludes me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And ed makes my point for me. The top 5% are being asked to pay their “fair share”. The bottom 95% are not. Thanks ed!</i></p>
<p>Shorter SaveFarris: The concept of the decreasing marginal utility of money eludes me.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-142981</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to CSS, the people making over 250K a year do not affect the economy by their spending.  Got it.

And ed makes my point for me.  The top 5% are being asked to pay their &quot;fair share&quot;.  The bottom 95% are not.  Thanks ed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to CSS, the people making over 250K a year do not affect the economy by their spending.  Got it.</p>
<p>And ed makes my point for me.  The top 5% are being asked to pay their &#8220;fair share&#8221;.  The bottom 95% are not.  Thanks ed!</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/14/john-boehner-we-wont-legislate-well-communicate/#comment-142980</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If paying taxes is as patriotic as you say, Mr. Obama should be asking 95% of the population to share in the sacrifice.&lt;/i&gt;

Um, no. The latter does not necessarily follow the former, Wile E. We&#039;re just asking dickweeds like yourself to pay your fair share, adhere to the Rule of Law, and take some pride in what our taxes pay for. Like The Troops, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If paying taxes is as patriotic as you say, Mr. Obama should be asking 95% of the population to share in the sacrifice.</i></p>
<p>Um, no. The latter does not necessarily follow the former, Wile E. We&#8217;re just asking dickweeds like yourself to pay your fair share, adhere to the Rule of Law, and take some pride in what our taxes pay for. Like The Troops, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SaveFarris says: &quot;Don’t the people making less than 250K have a stake in the debt and the wars too? If paying taxes is as patriotic as you say, Mr. Obama should be asking 95% of the population to share in the sacrifice.&quot;

These people need to spend in order to get the economy going. 

And there is a difference in how the same marginal rates affect spending between income groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaveFarris says: &#8220;Don’t the people making less than 250K have a stake in the debt and the wars too? If paying taxes is as patriotic as you say, Mr. Obama should be asking 95% of the population to share in the sacrifice.&#8221;</p>
<p>These people need to spend in order to get the economy going. </p>
<p>And there is a difference in how the same marginal rates affect spending between income groups.</p>
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