Stimulus Working?

3:02 pm EST March 13th, 2009 | News | 165 Comments

Hmmmmm.

President Obama’s top White House economic adviser said today that consumer spending in the United States appears to have “stabilized,” and he urged business leaders to show “more optimism and more confidence” in their investment decisions.

Lawrence H. Summers, director of the National Economic Council, said a $787 billion economic stimulus package that Obama signed into law last month is starting to have an impact, saving thousands of jobs, providing continued unemployment insurance and health benefits to several hundred thousand workers and initiating tens of billions of dollars worth of infrastructure projects.

Wonder if the next winger critique will be a) That it’s not working fast enough or b) It’s working too well.

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165 Responses to “Stimulus Working?”

  1. Quaker in a Basement says:

    Neither. My money’s on:

    C: It’s not really working at all! Anything that has actually improved got better on its own and anything else Obama says is getting better is just a big fat lie!!11!!

  2. michael says:

    D) Bush’s tax cuts are finally kicking in!

  3. joaquin says:

    I wish the S&P would hit 1,500 next week, but Summers and you guys are wishing on a star. Take a look at the futures and get back to me.

  4. ed says:

    Summers is a jackass.

  5. Viceroy Matt says:

    E) I still have to pay off my mortgage.

  6. Enlightened Liberal says:

    Interesting we haven’t been getting any stock market updates this week from the usual subjects. Wonder why?

  7. Jaim says:

    It’ll take some time to undo the damage Republicans did to the American economy ca. 2001-2009.

    I thought it’d take two years at minimum, but maybe it’ll be quicker than that.

  8. wÒÓ† says:

    Nah, this is a statistical blip. Dow will lose another 500 next week.

  9. Sean D. Martin says:

    So, lemme get this right. The attitude seems to be that the folks on the right will have spin on this, so anything they say should be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism, but comments from Obama’s own top economic adviser saying things we should be less skeptical about?

  10. SaveFarris says:

    So your indisputable proof of the economic turnaround is … Obama’s staff says so? You guys are such cheap dates.

    Though I hate to be critical now that Obama has finally figured out not to scream “Great Depression II!” at every turn. If only he’d have figured it out 50 days and a couple thousand points ago.

  11. Sean D. Martin says:

    SaveFarris, so glad that I could provide one of your talking points for a change. Still looking forward to the day you can come up with one of your own.

    IN the meantime, “now that Obama has finally figured out not to scream “Great Depression II!” at every turn.” Got any example of that, or is this just another talking point echo?

  12. Zython says:

    Though I hate to be critical now that Obama has finally figured out not to scream “Great Depression II!” at every turn. If only he’d have figured it out 50 days and a couple thousand points ago.

    Once again, I’m calling you guys out on this. Admit it, if Obama hadn’t said this, and said the economy was just hunkey-dorey, you would say he was lying and “Not taking the problem seriously enough”. I’ve studied your playbook.

  13. midderpidge says:

    The stock market? get real. get some job gains and some increases in household incomes, then you got something to talk about.

  14. Jaim says:

    Seconding midderpidge. Income was stagnant under Bush II — the Republicans truly don’t give a fuck about the lower and middle classes. And unemployment is the real issue.

    But hey, dickheads like Joaquin and Jay and Dennis were trying to blame Obama for the Bush II stock market collapse. So when it gets back to 14,000 under his watch all three of them should come back to this thread and apologize for being fucktards.

  15. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Real improvements will not be seen till the end of 2009 / beginning of 2010. However, there are already signs of hope, including people being hired thanks to stimulus money.

    I remember one of the right-wing talking points was that the stimulus spending would take too long to kick it. This has been proven false.

  16. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    “So when it gets back to 14,000 under his watch all three of them should come back to this thread and apologize for being fucktards.”

    Never going to happen. The apologizing part that is.

  17. Dennis says:

    But hey, dickheads like Joaquin and Jay and Dennis were trying to blame Obama for the Bush II stock market collapse. Where’s Jaim Galt?

    I didn’t blame the stock market collapse on Obama, you lying piece of shit dickhead, Jaims.

    Fucking liar.

    I accused him of purposely being overly negative recently with the ulterior motive of getting the stimulus measures passed, and that was causing tons of uncertainty in the market, forcing it down at a time when people should be looking for value and considering getting back in. Big fucking difference, but you wouldn’t be able to understand that.

    You don’t know diddly about the stock market, save what you see on The Daily Show.

  18. Jaim says:

    I know that my 401K is in the toilet, like everybody else’s.

    I know that the supposed geniuses at places like AIG, Lehman, Merrill, and Bear were actually engaged in something of a Ponzi scheme with their “creative” selling of CDO’s and other ways of building profit based on high-risk (if not potentially illegal) swaps of bad and toxic debt.

    But please, it amuses me to no end to have someone who works in finance telling me that I know nothing about markets. Because if you’re such a smart financial He-man, as are your co-workers, why is the American economy doing so poorly, with major banks desperate for hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer bailouts?

    Keep swinging and missing, Dennis. Your abject stupidity is the face of the Republican party these days, along with Chairman Limbaugh. And your impotent tears of rage are sweet and delicious!

  19. Dennis says:

    Jaim, you lied when you said I blamed the stock market crash on Obama.

    You have no credibility. People with credibility don’t need to lie.

  20. Jaim says:

    Wow, do I get a card in the mail or something? Just how will the rest of the internet know that DENNIS SAYS I HAVE NO CREDIBILITY ZOMG???

    Interesting you mention the Daily Show, however. Lots of people outside of CNBC have noted that for a layman, Stewart did a good job of asking tough and insightful questions to Cramer. Hell, even Cramer admitted as much. And I’ll admit, I think it was big of Cramer to go on in what he knew would be a pretty hostile environment.

    But please, I’m keeping you from your work. You should get to your office and try and undo some of the damage you and your partners did to the American economy over that past few years. Feel free to give us updates, k?

  21. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “I didn’t blame the stock market collapse on Obama…”

    “I accused him of purposely being overly negative recently… causing tons of uncertainty in the market, forcing it down…”

    I can see why you would want to clarify your position.

    (By the way, I’m mocking you. Just in case you couldn’t figure it out on your own.)

    I guess you could be really anal and say you were entirely blaming Obama for the stock market collapse. But then Jaim can say he never made that claim either.

  22. Duros62 says:

    I didn’t blame the stock market collapse on Obama,

    Maybe not directly.

    Feb. 20, 2009

    DOW down 120 this morning. A market with no bottom. A stimulus package that investors have no faith in, people that know how well government schems that throw good money after bad works in the long run. A liberal blog populated with people who believe their shouting rich guy messiah can make no mistake.

    God help us all.

    Feb 19

    ’m sure there’s absolutely no correlation between how the AP administered that poll and the fact that the AP seems hellbent on putting the best possible light on the fact Obama’s hope and change measure doesn’t quite convince the stock market.

    Ooh, look at this! November 5th!

    Dennis says:
    November 5, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Nice first day with the stock market. DOW down 486 points.

    Buyer’s remorse taking hold already.

    Okay, so directly, then.

  23. Duros62 says:

    November 6, 2009

    Dennis says:
    November 6, 2008 at 10:45 am

    DOW down 205. The market has only gone one way, decisively at that, since the night of the election.

    Expectations.

    This archive trawling is fun!

    Should I continue?

  24. Parthenon says:

    Did you cons fault Bush (directly or indirectly) when the dow started tanking?

    No that’s right, it was Barney Frank back then. Or President Obama’s good poll numbers. Or Bill Clinton.

  25. Duros62 says:

    Okay, one more.

    Dennis says:
    November 6, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    DOW now off 10% in Obama’s first two days.

    The market is a-lookin’ and it ain’t a-likin’.

    And he was so cool throughout the whole bailout crisis. So steady, so calm.

    4 hours later!

  26. Dennis says:

    But please, I’m keeping you from your work. You should get to your office and try and undo some of the damage you and your partners did to the American economy over that past few years. Feel free to give us updates, k? –”Where’s Jaim Galt?”

    As an educator that you are, assigning blame to me for the economic crisis is akin to me blaming you for this country’s problems with our education system.

    I won’t do that, because you ran away from this country for a few dollars more to help some other country’s educational system.

    And Jaim, how in the world did you lose money in your 401-k? You knew under Bush things would go bad, why did you trust him? You could’ve switched into money markets or fixed income, so why did you have money in the stock market where all the swindlers who could manipulate it would destroy it?

    Doesn’t make sense, Jaim. Even now there are hedge funds and derivatives and probably still Bernard Madoff’s yet to be caught. I would think someone like you who is so fond of Jon Stuart Liebowitz and his Eugene V. Debs view of capitalism would have your money all in your mattress and your 401-k in a money market.

    What gives, hypocritical liar?

  27. Duros62 says:

    Jon Stuart Liebowitz
    Is that supposed to be a Jew joke?

    It’s Stewart, ya pinhead.

    What gives, hypocritical liar?

    Dennis? Sure you want to do that?

  28. Dennis says:

    Duros-

    I try to be polite with you but sometimes you are a complete douchebag. Here’s what Jaim said:

    But hey, dickheads like Joaquin and Jay and Dennis were trying to blame Obama for the Bush II stock market collapse. So when it gets back to 14,000 under his watch all three of them should come back to this thread and apologize for being fucktards.

    Every quote you wasted at least a full hour of your life digging up pertained to the last couple months stock markets.

    Jaim said specifically the Bush II crash, going back to when it was DOW 14,000, and he said Joaquin, Jay and myself tried to blame Obama. I don’t think the other two he named did that either, but I know I didn’t and nothing you copy and paste will verify that either. He’s lying when he says that, and he can’t deny it.

    And I didn’t say it indirectly, either, Duros. So you are lying too. Either that or just being a little too overambitious trying to play gotcha to the point you do a really shoddy job of investigative analysis.

    Maybe you’re not as bad as the hypocrite liar Jaims, though, who sells out his own country in a time of need for a few extra bucks then in his spare time ridicules people in this country who work here to try to make it better.

  29. Dennis says:

    Jon Stuart Liebowitz
    Is that supposed to be a Jew joke?
    Duros

    No, it’s not a joke; that’s his name.

    Tell me something, Duros, why is Cramer suddenly a problem for Stewart? The crash started a long time ago. Cramer made his Bear Stearns call a long time ago.

    How is he not just being an Obama shill right now, doing his bidding for Obama when public perception and the market is going against him?

  30. Duros62 says:

    I see. So nothing that YOU SAID tries to blame Obama for the downturn of the stock market. Right.

    Just when did the “Bush II Crash” start, anyway?

    And when the Dow gets over 14,000, you will come back and admit you were wrong, yes?

    And I’m the douchebag.

  31. Dennis says:

    What gives, hypocritical liar?

    Dennis? Sure you want to do that? Duros

    Everyone’s a hyporcrite, Jaims. Some worse than others. We’re not all liars.

    Jaim just blatantly lied, and he doesn’t deny it. He lets you and Southern Strategy flail at trying to back him up, but he doesn’t have the stones to either admit it or refute it proving himself right. And you don’t have the stones to ever call out anyone here who does the same thing.

  32. Duros62 says:

    why is Cramer suddenly a problem for Stewart?

    He’s not. Never has been. If you watched the interview, Stewart starts out by saying it wasn’t about Cramer.

    Cramer made his Bear Stearns call a long time ago.

    And just a few weeks later, it tanked.

    How is he not just being an Obama shill right now,

    Because he, like a lot of us, is pissed off at these “Master of the Universe” playing craps with other peoples’ money and lives.

  33. Dennis says:

    Yes, Duros, you are being a douchebag. And yes, nothing I said blamed Obama for the Bush II stock market crash. The market is way too big for any one person to get the blame.

    If the market gets to DOW 14,000, I’ll be happy, yes. I never said it wouldn’t ever get there, so, no, I won’t come back and apologize if and when it does. I do think markets overreact to both the upside and to the downside. I hope we have finally seen the bottom and that this last week’s upward movement shows people are starting to dip their toes back in. But we have a long way to go.

  34. Duros62 says:

    How do you reconcile these statments?

    March 14, 2009 at 8:08 am

    Jaim, you lied when you said I blamed the stock market crash on Obama.

    February 19, 2009
    Obama’s hope and change measure doesn’t quite convince the stock market.

    Because it sure looks to me like you blamed the stock market collapse on Obama.
    Of course, I’m no market guru like you are.

  35. Duros62 says:

    The market is way too big for any one person to get the blame.

    But for months you were here expressing that exact correlation, so I don’t understand what your position is now.

    How does that not make your statements lies?

  36. Dennis says:

    I’m not a guru, Duros. I don’t even work in the stock market.

    I honestly don’t see how even a novice at the stock market could see those two statements as needing reconciliation to prove that what Jaim claimed was true.

    The second statement was made after the worst January and the worst February for the stock market in a generation, precisely at a time when people are excited for the new president who had promised hope and change. Investors weren’t filled with hope. They were bailing, and it wasn’t just the Masters of the Universe playing manipulative games. It was real money investors. They were scared. A lot of them still are.

  37. Duros62 says:

    And you don’t have the stones to ever call out anyone here who does the same thing.

    I would, but any inconsistencies of others are overshadowed by yours and your compadres.

  38. Duros62 says:

    Investors weren’t filled with hope. They were bailing, and it wasn’t just the Masters of the Universe playing manipulative games. It was real money investors. They were scared. A lot of them still are.

    And my point is that you were here for weeks trying to pin that lack of hope on Obama. Otherwise, you wouldn’t use the term “Hope and change.”

  39. Duros62 says:

    No, I think I get it now. When the market does poorly, it’s the Obama’s fault. When it does well, it’s because of “other things.”

  40. Dennis says:

    And my point is that you were here for weeks trying to pin that lack of hope on Obama. Otherwise, you wouldn’t use the term “Hope and change.” Duros

    And if you’d go back over the conversations instead of cherry-picking quotes like you’re trying to audition for a job at Media Matters, Duros, you’d probably find words to the effect that it wasn’t all Obama’s fault why the stock market was going down. But it is fair to say that the enthusiasm for Obama’s presidency and the stimulus measures being put in place was not transferring to the stock market and investor’s perceptions of the future price performance. I had those arguments with you, come to think of it, yet you didn’t include that above in your quotes.

  41. Duros62 says:

    I cherry-picked nothing, dude. All of those were word for word, in their entirety, in most cases apropos of nothing that was being discussed.

    Like this one
    Dennis says:
    November 6, 2008 at 10:45 am

    DOW down 205. The market has only gone one way, decisively at that, since the night of the election.

    Expectations.
    Here’s the thread it was from, if you’d like to check.

    I had those arguments with you, come to think of it, yet you didn’t include that above in your quotes.

    Well, now it’s your turn.

  42. Duros62 says:

    Oh, okay, I found one where we discussed it and you PWNED! me. Same thread.

    #
    Dennis says:
    November 6, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    DOW down 366. Down 845 since Tuesday’s election.

    GIRD YOUR LOINS. Market capitulation.

    #
    Duros 62 says:
    November 6, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    And that’s relevant how,exactly, dennis?

    Oh, right. Not at all..

    LOOK OVER THERE!!!!

  43. Jack J. says:

    The vote is in: Dennis, you have ZERO credibility (so what else is new?) so you lose.

  44. Duros62 says:

    All I know is my Federal tax withholding went down this week.

  45. z_adura says:

    There are a few things that are true:
    1) In general, people have been saving more in 2009 than the previous 8 years.
    2) Consumer confidence has stabilized but is still at historic lows.
    3) The fallout of the global banking system crash has years to unwind itself.
    4) None of the stimulus money has been disbursed.

    Given the following, there will be no silver bullet. It take a long time for saved dollars to re-enter the economy, particularly when the vehicle is undercapitalized banks. It will also take a while for the impact of the stimulus money to be felt. It will happen but it will take time.

  46. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “The market is way too big for any one person to get the blame.”

    Oh. So you were dumb enough to use that excuse.

  47. Jaim says:

    “I would think someone like you who is so fond of Jon Stuart Liebowitz”

    Dennis, we’ve all known you’re a dumbass, a racist, and a hypocrite. Know you’ve let us know that you’re an anti-semite as well.

    Well played!

  48. Dennis says:

    Sorry, Jaim, that’s not anti-Semitic. That’s his name.

    I called you a liar, Jaim. Several times. You let other posters here do your bidding, a poor job of it, but they did it nonethless. You’re obviously reading their posts, yet you won’t deny that you lied or refute the charge.

    You’re being a pussy.

  49. Jaim says:

    Nope. I simply called you out on the fact that you’ve frequently criticized President Obama for day-to-day drops in the Dow, equating his presidential performance with the ups and downs on Wall Street.

    I’d love to see the market surge. It would make me and my friends and family better off, but the fact is we’re in a global economic crisis right now. More importantly, the US unemployment rate is really high, and that means people are hurting.

    You hang yourself on your own words here, Einstein. It’s sad and amusing at the same time.

  50. ed says:

    I would think someone like you who is so fond of Jon Stuart Liebowitz

    Wow. Just wow.

    Love the “but that’s his name!”* rejoinder. Classy.

    The modern Republican party (i.e., since Nixon’s Southern Strategy) as summarized by Dittohead Dennis. Nice buncha guys.

    *technically that’s not his name

  51. Sgt. Troy Barlow says:

    Stop [virtually] speaking right now, Dennis.

  52. Dennis says:

    Nope. I simply called you out on the fact that you’ve frequently criticized President Obama for day-to-day drops in the Dow, equating his presidential performance with the ups and downs on Wall Street. — Jaim Galt

    No, you didn’t. You said Jay, joaquin and I all blamed Obama for the Bush II market crash. That is a lie. It is in no way analogous to the above statement. Not even on the same planet.

    You can call me any name you want, you can’t back any of them. I am calling you a liar and I AM backing it up, and you cannot deny it, refute it, agree with it, or apologize for it. All you can do is hem and haw and call me names. That, you do well. Well in the sense that the posters who work harder to shill for you than you do would rather see that than to see you try save face.

    You are still being a pussy.

  53. Duros62 says:

    You said Jay, joaquin and I all blamed Obama for the Bush II market crash. That is a lie. Dennis the menace

    That’s true. Jay and Joker didn’t. It was just you.

  54. Jaim says:

    “You can call me any name you want”
    “All you can do is hem and haw and call me names.”
    “You are still being a pussy.”

    Stop posting drunk please. kthxbai.

  55. Duros62 says:

    Well in the sense that the posters who work harder to shill for you

    Was I doing that? Didn’t think so.

    So it’s perfectly okay for you to go through the archives and pull up things we said that we now don’t endorse (i.e., Joe Biden is a racist asshole, for which we gave you credit for), but it’s not okay to call you on your bullshit using the same thing.

  56. Dennis says:

    That’s true. Jay and Joker didn’t. It was just you. Shill Duros62

    An admission on your part that he lied about Jay and joaquin.

    A lie on your part about me. One you have chosen to help Jaim with and failed.

    He has taken no part in your efforts, or backed you in any way, btw, Duros. You’ve only embarrassed him further.

    In short,

    Jaim and Duros: FAIL</aB

  57. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “You are still being a pussy.”

    Sexism and anti-Semitism in the same day.

    Kudos.

    Now say something homophobic and you can finish your GOP Hat Trick.

  58. Dennis says:

    but it’s not okay to call you on your bullshit using the same thing. Duros

    Sure it’s ok to pull up anything you’d like. You just didn’t prove at all that what Jaim said was anything but a lie.

    I’ve been critical of Obama but not at any time or in any sense did I pin all the blame on him for the BushII crash.

    You don’t seem to understand that yet you continue to fight his battle. One he chooses not to fight himself other than to re-direct or try to even back you up. So yeah, Duros, shilling is exactly what you are doing.

  59. Dennis says:

    “You are still being a pussy.”

    Sexism and anti-Semitism in the same day. Southern Strategy

    Strowbridge, you are the very first guy in my life who has ever called me a sexist for asking him if he was OTR or called another guy a pussy.

    I’ve never known anyone as sensitive as you, I guess.

    Keep reaching though.

  60. Sgt. Troy Barlow says:

    Shorter Dennis: WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

  61. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot:
    “I would think someone like you who is so fond of Jon Stuart Liebowitz”
    “Sorry, Jaim, that’s not anti-Semitic. That’s his name.”

    Why bring it up? Why use his birth name and not his legal name?

    Are you afraid we wouldn’t know who you were talking about?

    Nope. I don’t think that’s likely. I think you brought it up to emphasize his Jewish heritage.

  62. Parthenon says:

    Stewart changed his name in 2001, amigo. Legally. That used to be his name. Hasn’t been for eight years. You don’t still call women by their maiden names eight years later, do you?

  63. Dennis says:

    Southern Strategy, have you ever considered that every charge you’ve ever made about me has been preceded by “I think”?

    Seems you’re never quite sure. ‘You think’ it’s so.

    Only it never is. You keep reaching. You resort to things ‘you think’ are true and then pretend they are true and then repeat them as if they are true, hoping that others will back you up.

  64. Dennis says:

    Parthy- I don’t care if Stewart is Jewish or not, but he shouldn’t be ashamed of his name. Seems most people today in show biz are keeping their given names. I have no idea why he changed his name, but calling him by his given name is no more anti-Semitic than it is anti-German or anti-Polish or whatever nationality that name is common to.

  65. Parthenon says:

    I’ll leave anti-semitic for you and others. I just thought it was odd. As I said, you wouldn’t call Laura Bush ‘Laura Welch,’ now would you?

    As you say, we have no idea why he changed it, and considering he’s never been shy of discussing his youth, I’d say shame was likely not on the list. Probably made going to the dmv easier.

  66. Dennis says:

    Parthy-

    Did you scold Keith Olbermann or express dismay when he called Michelle Malkin ‘Maglagong’ over and over on his show?

  67. Parthenon says:

    Well I didn’t know about that. I don’t catch KO as often as I’d like. But yes, I would have thought it was strange and borderline offensive, depending on the context. And I’m not scolding, I was literally confused.

    (I don’t want to get too far OT here, though.)

  68. Jaim says:

    Wow. Just wow. Yet another wing-nut goes full-out anti-semite blow-out.

    Well played Dennis, well played. Thanks for laying your hateful little cards on the table for all of us to see.

    You are a Republican. You are the offsrping of Chairman Rushbo. You are the reason America will never take you or your little hate-group seriously ever again.

  69. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot:”Strowbridge, you are the very first guy in my life who has ever called me a sexist for asking him if he was OTR or called another guy a pussy.”

    I’m not surprised your fellow Klan members wouldn’t know that it is sexist, but it is.

    It is 100% sexist, and calling my sensitive for pointing out that you are sexist just makes it worse.

    Calling me Southern Strategy in a thread where you act like a sexist, anti-Semitic asshole is just an added layer of irony.

    You truly are a proud member of the GOP Base.

  70. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “Southern Strategy, have you ever considered that every charge you’ve ever made about me has been preceded by ‘I think’?”

    Two points…

    1.) I don’t think it is every charge. I’m sure you will find some examples where I don’t use, “I think…” or other such modifiers, if you search enough.

    2.) It’s intentional. I very rarely says stuff like, ‘every charge you’ve ever made…’ because the burden of proof is simply too high. My educational background is in the sciences, and making definitive statements like, ‘every charge you’ve ever made…’ is completely unscientific, because there is always uncertainty in life. And I pride myself in taking that into account.

    “Seems you’re never quite sure. ‘You think’ it’s so.
    Only it never is.”

    Whatever helps you sleep at night.

    Calling anyone a ‘pussy’ is sexist. It implies there is something wrong with being a woman. It doesn’t matter if the person you are calling a ‘pussy’ is a woman or not. It is sexist.

    This is not up for debate. There is no wiggle room here.

    It is 100% sexist.

    At best you could claim it is unintentionally sexist, but that would be a very hard case to make.

  71. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Parthenon says: “Well I didn’t know about that. I don’t catch KO as often as I’d like. But yes, I would have thought it was strange and borderline offensive, depending on the context. And I’m not scolding, I was literally confused.”

    I don’t recall the exact incident, but I think it had to do with either internment, or illegal immigration.

    That latter is more apropos, as Malkin herself is an anchor baby.

  72. Dennis says:

    Southern Strategy-

    How scientific was it for you to conclude that I am a member of the Klan?

    Contradict yourself much?

    Idiot.

  73. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot says: “Southern Strategy-
    How scientific was it for you to conclude that I am a member of the Klan”

    Well, given you obvious bigotry, it seemed likely.

    (It’s called an insult. Insults are often not scientific in nature.)

    By the way, thanks for admitting defeat on sexism. At least that’s the likely conclusion as you don’t seem to have a counter argument more effective than, ‘No it’s not sexist.’

  74. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    On a side note, Dennis. Now that you’ve proven your sexist, anti-Semitic, and possess a host of other bigotries, it’s probably best if you just left.

    You credibility is zero, and further comment will just do more harm.

  75. Dennis says:

    Wow. Just wow. Yet another wing-nut goes full-out anti-semite blow-out. Jaim Galt

    Jaim- Long before I called Jon Stewart by his birth-name I called you a liar. You refuse to defend yourself, instead relying on other people to do it for you. Weakly

    I called you a pussy. You let some other idiot defend you on thatm, too. I apologize to all women everywhere for using a part of their anatomy to describe a weakling like you. No women I know would let other people do their bidding as much as you have on this thread.

    You are an embarrassment to all human beings. Southern Strategy can call me anti-humanist now, but dude, what the hell is f’ing wrong with you?

    Grow a pair, for God’s sake.

  76. Dennis says:

    Well, given you obvious bigotry, it seemed likely. –Southern Strategy

    Ok, and how scientific is that, then?

    Idiot.

    On a side note, Dennis. Now that you’ve proven your sexist, anti-Semitic, and possess a host of other bigotries, it’s probably best if you just left. SSS

    a) Not your blog

    b) Who would you talk to if I left? You, like a few others, live for trying to best me. If you were successful at it or if you had grown bored from it, or truly offended and not just feigning indignance, you’d have ignored me a very long, long time ago.

    c) I didn’t admit sexism. It’s just too ridiculous to even respond to. If you told me you’ve never used the term in your life to call another man that I would scientifically conclude you were lying using the same scientific methodology you use to call me a Klansman.

  77. ed says:

    Long before I called Jon Stewart by his birth-name I called you a liar.

    Ergo…what, exactly? How are these related? What possible reason would you have for dropping J-Stew’s birth name, unless you were a douche-bag (which you are)?

    You, like a few others, live for trying to best me.

    How old are you? 8?

    If you were successful at it or if you had grown bored from it, or truly offended and not just feigning indignance, you’d have ignored me a very long, long time ago.

    Yeah, that’s the ticket. That must be it.

  78. Dennis says:

    …unless you were a douche-bag (which you are)? Mister ed

    If you were a Republican, Southern Strategy would call you sexist for saying that, Mister ed.

    As it is, you are safe from his pretensions. I’m sure his scientific methodology will justify how that is.

  79. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “Grow a pair, for God’s sake.”

    More sexism.

  80. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “a) Not your blog”

    Not yours either.

    “b) Who would you talk to if I left?”

    Adults.

    “You, like a few others, live for trying to best me.”

    Try? It would be hard not to best you.

    “c) I didn’t admit sexism. It’s just too ridiculous to even respond to.”

    Yet you responded to it. Repeatedly.

  81. Dennis says:

    And Mister ed, Southern Strategy? Mister Scientific Method.

    Do you notice that no one backs you up on this charge of sexism you are 100% certain on?

    Have you ever told another guy to grow a pair? Have you ever called another guy a pussy?

  82. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Ed:”…unless you were a douche-bag (which you are)? Mister ed”

    Dennis the bigot says: “If you were a Republican, Southern Strategy would call you sexist for saying that, Mister ed.”

    Is it nap time, Dennis? Because you sure are whining a lot.

    Saying you needed to douche would be sexist, because it would be calling someone a woman as an insult.

    Calling you a douche-bag is merely insulting and isn’t sexist, just like calling someone a jockstrap would be sexist.

  83. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “Do you notice that no one backs you up on this charge of sexism you are 100% certain on?”

    Do they need to? If they did, would it change your mind?

    “Have you ever told another guy to grow a pair? Have you ever called another guy a pussy?”

    In my lifetime? Yes. As a habit? No.

  84. Sgt. Troy Barlow says:

    If you were a Republican, Southern Strategy would call you sexist for saying that, Mister ed.

    Yeah, but I’m not a Republican. And you, Dennis, are still a douche-bag (and not surprisingly, a Dittohead Republican).

    Care to explain why you used J-Stew’s birth name or did we solve that one?

  85. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    On a side note, ‘boob’ is not sexist, even though it is a common name for a female body part. It actually refers to the bird, which has a reputation for lack of intelligence, and not the body part.

    Not sure about ‘tit’, which is British slang.

    Calling someone an ass is obviously not, while calling someone a dick, pillock, prick, etc. depends on the context.

  86. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Sgt. Troy Barlow says: “Care to explain why you used J-Stew’s birth name or did we solve that one?”

    I’m not sure we are going to get a real response for this one. He might claim he didn’t respond, ‘because is was too ridiculous to respond to.’

  87. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Cock-up. Sounds sexist, but it is not. It is actually about making beer.

  88. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    As you might be able to tell, I’m procrastinating at the moment.

  89. Dennis says:

    Care to explain why you used J-Stew’s birth name or did we solve that one?

    You could easily solve it for yourself if you cared to.

    Here

    His brother is a Master of the Universe, the type of person you guys all seem to hate and villify and blame on the stock market and economic collapse. He still uses the name. Stewart jokes about the name change often. It’s not anti-Semitic to call him that.

    Here. Send a letter to MSNBC expressing your disgust.

  90. Duros62 says:

    Calling you a douche-bag is merely insulting and isn’t sexist, just like calling someone a jockstrap would be sexist.

    It’s THINGISM!

    Not sure about ‘tit’, which is British slang.

    What about ‘twat?’

  91. Duros62 says:

    tewart jokes about the name change often. It’s not anti-Semitic to call him that.

    Perhaps not, nut you do seem to use people’s names and/or blog ID to try and belittle or demean.
    Which makes you look mean.

    You don’t want to refute the quotes I pulled where you blamed Obama for the stock downturn, or even address them; you just want to call people names and rent space in their heads. Fine. Doesn’t help your credibility.

  92. ed says:

    His brother is a Master of the Universe, the type of person you guys all seem to hate and villify and blame on the stock market and economic collapse. He still uses the name. Stewart jokes about the name change often. It’s not anti-Semitic to call him that.

    Except that’s still not relevant to this thread: You’re a douche-bag. (A Dittohead modern Republican is a douche-bag–stop the presses!)

    Nice try, Sparky.

  93. Dennis says:

    You don’t want to refute the quotes I pulled where you blamed Obama for the stock downturn, or even address them; you just want to call people names and rent space in their heads., Duros

    Duros, Jaim made an allegation about me and a couple others that was patently false, for which he has yet to address. You tried to defend him by quoting me. I addressed them, just not fully because they didn’t make Jaim’s claim any less of a lie. I explained that already to you.

    If you think my names are mean, why do you not tell the very same guys you defend who call me far meaner names the same thing you are telling me? Why not be at least somewhat consistent.

    You’ve called another guy a pussy on this blog. Why do you not chime in on that pathetic charge of Strowbridge’s?

  94. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “Duros, Jaim made an allegation about me and a couple others that was patently false…”

    Actually, we’ve proven that Jaim was correct, at least in your case. Clearly you’ve blamed Obama for the stock market going down.

    You’re new claim is you are not blaming Obama entirely, but Jaim’s original didn’t say you did.

  95. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Me: “Not sure about ‘tit’, which is British slang.”

    Duros: “What about ‘twat?’”

    Twat is definitely slang for vagina.

    I would consider it in the ‘asshole’ category of insults. When you call someone a twat, you are not implying they are cowardly and therefore not manly.

  96. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    “Care to explain why you used J-Stew’s birth name or did we solve that one?”

    Dennis the Bigot: “You could easily solve it for yourself if you cared to.”

    His brother? You called him by his birth name because of his brother?

    This is either incredible subtle, or fucking lie.

  97. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “Jaim said specifically the Bush II crash, going back to when it was DOW 14,000, and he said Joaquin, Jay and myself tried to blame Obama. I don’t think the other two he named did that either, but I know I didn’t and nothing you copy and paste will verify that either. He’s lying when he says that, and he can’t deny it.”

    Oh my god! You are a fucking ‘tard. Sad thing is, I understand what you are trying to say. So what does that make me? ‘Tard Whisperer?

    You think Jaim claimed you blamed Obama for the stock market crash back when Bush II was in charge.

    I guess that makes sense, if you think Bush II has no responsibility for what is happening right now. After all, as soon as Obama was elected, Bush’s policies ceased to have any effects and all his bad decisions were completely undone.

    Jaim is calling the crash, which started under Bush II and continues to this day as the Bush II crash. He also predicted in an indirect way that the DOW will return to 14,000 under Obama.

    Got it?

    Jesus Christ. Learn to read, or shut up.

    Learn to read, and shut up.

  98. Jaim says:

    “Jaim made an allegation about me and a couple others that was patently false, for which he has yet to address.”

    Dennis, please put down the bottle and your copy of _Mein Kampf_. I stated the fact that you had pegged Obama’s performance to that of the stock market. This was proven by another commenter posting five or six comments you made that explicitly did this.

    Truth. Reality. That which is.

    You are indeed an oblivious, sad little fuck. And an anti-semite as well.

    C’mon man, people are asking you why you used Stewart’s birth-name. Just come out and admit it, you’ll sleep easier. You really hate Jews, don’t you?

    Sad. I hope you find the help you need some day.

  99. Dennis says:

    Your obsession with me is freakish and borderline psychotic, Southern Strategy. Everything about you is obsessive-compulsive. When you get a theme in your head you can’t let go of it. When you are proven wrong, you get angry. When you are asked questions you are too embarrassed to answer because truthful answers would reveal your blatant hypocrisy, you change the subject. When you can’t make your case competely, you return to it over and over with varying re=interpretations, as if you have something to prove to everybody that you know you did not do clearly the previous times. When I don’t respond to you, you feel as if you must reply that I’ve made to anyone else. There are several other blog topics on the main page here, but you have to feed your obsession by addressing me.

    No other term for it other than classis obsessive-compulsive disorder. That, and you’re a stalker.

    No wonder you defended Mister ed so much when he was on the same OC-D warpath against me.

    And you can interpret and defend all night what Jaim said if you want to, but it doesn’t change the fact that he lied.

    Keep going over it in your mind and pretend to be a lawyer, but he lied. He’s a liar. He should be able to defend himself, but he doesn’t. He let’s you muck it up for him.

    Because he knows you will.

  100. Jaim says:

    “And you can interpret and defend all night what Jaim said if you want to, but it doesn’t change the fact that he lied.”

    No, I didn’t fuckwit. Go up top and read Duros62′s <exact quotations from you, Dennis the bigot.

    Seriously man, consider taking a break from the internet. You’ve got some serious issues that I honestly wouldn’t wish on anyone, even those I disagree with politically.

  101. Dennis says:

    Jaim-

    I called Stewart by his birth name because he changed it and won’t say why. I don’t know why he didn’t use the name and I won’t pretend to assume it has something to do with sounding Jewish, like obviously you are. But just the fact that he changed his birth name makes me assume he didn’t like it, and if he didn’t like it, I don’t mind calling him that name. A lot of other people do too, MSNBC in their headline story, which no one here has said one word about, and I don’t just assume everyone who does is being anti-Semitic. Nor do I with any of the hundreds of references to Jon Stewart by his given name.

    I don’t think you do either.

    And what is sad, Jaim, is that I’ve shown you to be a liar, and you let other people here, one clueless about what you said, naive as it were, and one with a psychological disorder, to try to fight your battles for you, because you either can’t, or won’t.

    And that’s just weak.

  102. ed says:

    When you are asked questions you are too embarrassed to answer because truthful answers would reveal your blatant hypocrisy, you change the subject.

    Dennis, some time ago, you referred to “several tenets of the Laffer Curve,” yet when asked (repeatedly) about what those were, you declined to answer and changed that subject. What are the tenets of the Laffer Curve?

    Not as long ago, you defended the vitriolic and racist Sarah Palin rallies, writing, with respect to the rallies’ negative notoriety: “Guess you have to go looking for it [racism] like the guy with the video recorder asking people questions as people went it in.” When asked about this, you declined to answer and changed the subject. What did you mean by a “guy with the video recorder asking people questions”? Have you seen the videos? They even made the news. You can find them on Youtube easily (search for “Sarah Palin racist”). What do you think about those?

    You have repeatedly defended Rush Limbaugh even after reading a sampling of his more racist transgressions, such as:

    “[Blacks] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”

    and

    “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

    and

    “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549

    When repeatedly asked about this, you declined to answer and changed the subject. Dennis, is Rush Limbaugh a racist asshole?

    Why can’t you answer these very simple questions and feel the need to change the subject? Are you too embarrassed?

  103. ed says:

    I called Stewart by his birth name because he changed it and won’t say why.

    That’s not relevant to this thread. Nice try, Sparky. Maybe next time.

    Perhaps you could go on the Daily Show to discuss it with him. I wonder who would triumph between you and Mr. Stewart in a battle of wits.

  104. Dennis says:

    No, I didn’t fuckwit. Go up top and read Duros62’s <exact quotations from you, Dennis the bigot. Jaim the Weak

    I did Jaim. Duros has no clue about the stock market. Neither do you for that matter, but his quotes of me were ones I stand by as it pertains to now and the last 2-3 months. Even if I’m critical of Obama now, it doesn’t mean I assign the whole blame to him for even the stock market crash now.

    But what you said was a lie, and again, you only say ‘Go look at someone else’s defense of what I said’. Weak, Jaim. Just like your decision to leave this country when it could use your help and saying you’ll come back when things get better. You are the one with the serious issues, dude.

  105. Dennis says:

    Mister ed-

    When I mention Southern Strategy’s OCD and his stalking like you used to do, how is it that you suddenly appear?

    I don’t know who the hell Fair.org is. I’ve never heard of them. There is no source for the ‘bone out of your nose’ claim that Limbaugh said. If you provide one, then show it. Otherwise I see no need to defend it or respond to it. At best, it was anecdotal. So anyone could be making it up. And that wouldn’t stop you from repeating it over and over and over and over and over, like you do.

    You and Southern Strategy should form an OCD/Stalker support group.

  106. ed says:

    Dennis wrote,

    When you are asked questions you are too embarrassed to answer because truthful answers would reveal your blatant hypocrisy, you change the subject.

    I believe Teh Kidz like to call that “projection.”

    Care to answer those simple questions yet, Dennis? Or are you too embarrassed and would rather change the subject? Yet again.

  107. Zython says:

    Just like your decision to leave this country when it could use your help and saying you’ll come back when things get better. You are the one with the serious issues, dude.

    “Murderer: [To witness] You have issues, man. You saw me murdering that guy, and didn’t do anything to stop it. You’re obviously not right in the head.”

    It takes alot of gall to accuse someone of “abandoning” a dying country when you yourself were participating in the murder.

    I accused him of purposely being overly negative recently with the ulterior motive of getting the stimulus measures passed, and that was causing tons of uncertainty in the market, forcing it down at a time when people should be looking for value and considering getting back in. Big fucking difference, but you wouldn’t be able to understand that.

    Dennis, admit if, if Obama was positive about the economy the whole time, you would’ve accused him of “Ignoring the issue” or “Lying to the American people”. The fact that none of the ultra-con trolls here can even deny this speaks for itself.

  108. Duros62 says:

    No other term for it other than classis obsessive-compulsive disorder. That, and you’re a stalker.

    No doubt about it. We have a new Frank.

    But just the fact that he changed his birth name makes me assume he didn’t like it, and if he didn’t like it, I don’t mind calling him that name.

    But you didn’t. Nobody asked John Wayne why he didn’t like his name, or just about everybody else in show business.

    Even if I’m critical of Obama now, it doesn’t mean I assign the whole blame to him for even the stock market crash now.

    You could have just said that from the start. Because it sure looked to me like you did.

  109. Dennis says:

    Projection, Mister ed? Not quite.

    Please don’t equate my ignoring you as anything other than just that. It’s easy to do.

    Go ahead, give it a try.

  110. Zython says:

    Opps, that should be “admit it”. Silly me.

  111. ed says:

    At best, it was anecdotal. So anyone could be making it up.

    Snopes good enough for you?

    Claim: Talk Radio host Rush Limbaugh once told a black caller to “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”
    Status: True.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp
    (scroll down there for more sources)

    Here’s the Wiki for FAIR:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_and_Accuracy_in_Reporting
    (Wikipedia is hardly an unimpeachable source, but you could use it as a jumping off point–have fun)

    Do you understand how to do Google searches?

    Dennis, is Rush Limbaugh a racist asshole?

  112. Dennis says:

    Duros-

    Again, you’re trying way to hard. So many other threads and you persist on trying to catch me on something. People in show business used to change their names, yes. John Wayne was a long time ago. Today, not so much. Annie Leibowitz didn’t change her name. Celebrities today don’t as much as they used to. I explained that before.

  113. Dennis says:

    Mister ed- Still no credible source. No one has a tape of him saying it. Snopes only assumes it to be true because Limbaugh hasn’t addressed it. That’s an extremely weak charge.

  114. Michael Over Here says:

    Wow, it’s always nice to see a complete wingnut meltdown like we have today with Dennis.

    It’s pretty clear Dennis that you jumped on Jaim for lying when you just had a semantic disagreement. Seriously, chill. You keep beating the lying drum like it’s a crusade of yours when it’s really obvious that the definitions just differed.

    When someone goes out of their way to state someone’s full name, when it’s not commonly utilized, it can really easily come off as bigoted. There was no reason whatsoever to mention Jon Stewart’s name. It’s childish ethnic teasing at best and down right racist at worst.

  115. ed says:

    Mister ed- Still no credible source.

    Right. Any chance you can get around to answering those simple questions? Or are you too embarrassed and will continue to change the subject?

    Is this a credible source?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bky2SGrmC8g

    Hey, your ideological compadre likes to use President Obama’s middle name, just like you like to use Jon Stewart’s birth name. Who’da thunk it?

  116. Dennis says:

    Michael- I disagree that it’s ethnic or racist. I posted an article with his full name just as I stated it as the title of the article. When I read it I didn’t think of it as either ethnic teasing or racist.

    If you disagree, fine, but I’ve seen other references to Stewart using his given name and I haven’t read anywhere that it was ethnic teasing or racist. If you have, please post it. And show me someone who has taken issue with the MSNBC article.

  117. Zython says:

    So Dennis, no say on the fact that you STILL be upset with Obama had his tune on the economy been different? Figures. Ask the right questions, and the ultra-cons head for the hills.

  118. Michael Over Here says:

    There’s a difference between Brian Williams, a friend of Jon’s, calling him by his full name in a satirical reference to a Simon and Garfunkel song and you randomly throwing out in a sentence that has a tone that is clearly trying to demean and mock Stewart. Context matters.

  119. ed says:

    I posted an article with his full name just as I stated it as the title of the article.

    But how is using the name relevant to this thread? (Hint: it isn’t).

  120. ed says:

    Michael- I disagree….

    No kidding.

  121. Dennis says:

    But how is using the name relevant to this thread? (Hint: it isn’t). Mister ed

    Merely to jerk your chain, Mister ed. You’ll be talking about it two months from now, trust me. Anything to get you off the broken record you were playing, which it did, I consider a success.

    Why don’t you write a letter to MSNBC and tell them how offended you are at their use of Stewart’s given name in the title of an article?

  122. ed says:

    Merely to jerk your chain, Mister ed.

    So you’re an asshole. Glad you can finally admit it.

    Why can’t you answer the simple questions? Are you a pussy?

  123. Dennis says:

    Oh, Mister ed, here’s you calling another guy a pussy:

    He’s a bedwetting Republican chickenhawk pussy who’s nevertheless cheerled the inherently wrong Iraq Invasion and the objectively ineffectual and stupid George Bush, Jr. at every opportunity.

    You did nothing on this thread but attack me, but you remained silent when Strowbridge attacked me for a silly sexism charge, even when it’s a term you use yourself. You are a man with little courage of his own convictions.

    Lower than pond scum.

    Self-righteous, sanctimonious, pond-scum.

  124. ed says:

    I don’t care either way. I don’t have a dog in that fight.

    Now can you answer the simple questions, Dennis, or will you change the subject yet again?

    Oh, and thanks for your service…in the Culture Wars.

  125. Michael Over Here says:

    So you admit that you were being anti-semitic just to rile up some libruls? Stay classy.

  126. Dennis says:

    So you admit that you were being anti-semitic just to rile up some libruls? MOH

    Nowhere have I admitted to being anti-Semitic. I’m not, and I wasn’t being that way. Why is it important to you that I admit to something I didn’t do?

    Address this if you are so concerned, Michael Over Here.

    WHERE HAVE YOU GONE, JONATHAN STUART LEIBOWITZ?

    –by Brian Williams, Anchor and managing editor
    The DailyNightly MSNBC blog

  127. ed says:

    Still not relevant to this thread. But nice effort changing the subject yet again.

    Well take some answers to simple questions now. Thanks in advance.

  128. Dennis says:

    Now can you answer the simple questions, Dennis, or will you change the subject yet again? Mister ed

    Your questions are endless. No answer suffices you.

    It’s time to quit beating that dead horse, ed. Even the White House says that.

    Distraction Over:

    “We have exhausted the use of Rush as an attention-getter,” says White House official.

    Which presumably means for you about what, another month of your non-stop Rush Limbaugh mutterings of unsourced quotes he supposedly said 40 years ago that are not on tape?

  129. Michael Over Here says:

    I already did. Brian WIlliams is a friend of Jon Stewart’s and he was directly making reference to the lack of Jon Stewarts in modern media, a la Simon and Garfunkel bemoaning the loss of America’s icon Joe DiMaggio. You were trying to disparage Jon Stewart, partly by trying to denigrate him by using his full birth name. Why do you ask me to address something I’ve already addressed?

    Dennis: Merely to jerk your chain, Mister ed. You’ll be talking about it two months from now, trust me

    This is where you’re saying that you’re just throwing things like this around to see who will respond.

    Dennis: Why is it important to you that I admit to something I didn’t do?
    Sounds like your projecting on me exactly what you’ve been screaming at Jaim for this entire thread? Kettle much?

  130. Dennis says:

    Operation Rush = FAIL

    Maybe you can email those fake but accurate Rush quotes from fair.org from 1970 to Robert Gibbs and Rahm Emmanuel and see if you can get it going again, Mister ed.

    Time to wave the white flag on that little charade.

  131. ed says:

    unsourced quotes

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp
    (scroll down for more)

    Oh, and LetMeGoogleThatForYou.com

    You stay classy, Dennis.

    Your questions are endless. No answer suffices you.

    They’re the same questions. You say that no answer suffices me, but point to where you answered the questions instead of changing the subject. (Hint: you haven’t.)

    Once again:
    What are the tenets of the Laffer Curve?
    What did you mean by a “guy with the video recorder asking people questions” with respect to the vitriolic and racist Sarah Palin rallies?
    Is Rush Limbaugh a racist asshole?

  132. ed says:

    Why do you ask me to address something I’ve already addressed?

    I’m guessing it’s because Dennis is a douche-bag.

  133. Dennis says:

    Those sources are crap, Mister ed. Neither one sourced anything to the point they have anything on record.

    You should be embarrassed repeating them.

  134. ed says:

    Those sources are crap,

    You believe what you want. Heck, a lot of Republicans believe evolution is crap too.

    Is Rush Limbaugh a racist asshole?

  135. Quaker in a Basement says:

    What the…?!?

    I go away for a day and now there’s mashed potatoes on the ceiling and gravel in the front hallway and somebody took a dump in the soup tureen.

    What the hell has been going on here?

  136. Michael Over Here says:

    We got a visit from the anti-semitic, shit-flinging Cat in the Hat. Mom’s gonna be pissed.

  137. fafaroo says:

    Dennis wrote:

    I’m not a guru, Duros. I don’t even work in the stock market.

    Just out of curiosity, what is that you do which gives you such insight into the president’s influence on the DOW?

  138. Zython says:

    You are a man with little courage of his own convictions.

    This coming from a guy who wets his pants when he sees one of my posts is humorous to say the least.

  139. Duros62 says:

    What the…?!?

    I go away for a day and now there’s mashed potatoes on the ceiling and gravel in the front hallway and somebody took a dump in the soup tureen.

    What the hell has been going on here?

    Thank god your here, QiaB.

  140. Jaim says:

    “I called Stewart by his birth name because he changed it and won’t say why.”

    Which has nothing to do with his televised debate with Cramer, or the economy in general, but everything to do with you being a racist.

    But please Dennis, continue digging your hole. You’re providing a lot of hilarious, albeit disturbing, entertainment for us today. Other than Comrade Rush, I can think of no greater or more effective representative of the doomed Republican party than yourself.

  141. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “Your questions are endless. No answer suffices you.”

    Is that why you never seem to give an answer?

    Interesting tactic. Refuse to answer from the beginning, and then complain when someone repeats the question.

  142. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot says: “Your obsession with me is freakish and borderline psychotic, Southern Strategy.”

    And I noticed you never even addressed my points. I guess that means you admit to being sexist, anti-Semitic, etc., etc.

    “When you are asked questions you are too embarrassed to answer because truthful answers would reveal your blatant hypocrisy, you change the subject.”

    Wow. The term ‘projecting’ doesn’t even come close to describing you.

  143. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “And you can interpret and defend all night what Jaim said if you want to, but it doesn’t change the fact that he lied.”

    Jaim says: “No, I didn’t fuckwit.”

    Jaim, he thinks you accused him of blaming Obama when the stock market was crashing back when it was at 14,000.

    He is illiterate.

  144. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot says: “Mister ed- Still no credible source. No one has a tape of him saying it.”

    Wow. That’s some moving the goalposts.

    “Snopes only assumes it to be true because Limbaugh hasn’t addressed it. That’s an extremely weak charge.”

    That’s a lie, but I guess lying is not a big deal when you want to defend a fellow racist.

    Rush felt regret for having said it. Why would he feel regret if he didn’t say it?

    Again we ask…

    Is Rush a racist asshole?

  145. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Duros: “No doubt about it. We have a new Frank.”

    Yeah, as soon as you said that name, the connection was clear.

    … and a little scary.

  146. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “Do you notice that no one backs you up on this charge of sexism you are 100% certain on?”

    Dennis the Bigot: “He should be able to defend himself, but he doesn’t. He let’s you muck it up for him.”

    Dennis the Bigot: “…to try to fight your battles for you, because you either can’t, or won’t.”

    On the one hand, if no one jumps into an argument, you must be wrong.

    On the other hand, if someone does jumps into an argument, you must be weak.

    Interesting tactic.

  147. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “Those sources are crap, Mister ed. Neither one sourced anything to the point they have anything on record.”

    And if they were on record, they would be out of context, right?

    Anything to defend your fellow conservative racists, right Dennis?

  148. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Mentally Derganged Bigot: “That, and you’re a stalker.”

    How are Ed and I stalking you? Are we following you to different websites? Have we tried to contact you in real-life?

    Hell, in this thread Ed and I were here first. So if anything, you are stalking us.

    All we have done is ask you questions that you don’t want to answer.

    And we we asked the question again, and again, still waiting for an answer, you called us stalkers.

    And every time you do, you kill your credibility just a little bit more.

  149. Dennis says:

    And if they were on record, they would be out of context, right? Southern Strategy

    They’re not on record. Neither is the context.

    And we we asked the question again, and again, still waiting for an answer, you called us stalkers.
    And every time you do, you kill your credibility just a little bit more.
    SSS

    You claim I have no credibility, but you keep coming back to me. Makes no sense. It only makes sense if you are obsessively compelled to knock down my credibility, which you both most definitely are. If you were successful at that, you’d move on. But you are incapable of even that.

    You are both stalkers.

  150. Dennis says:

    Rush felt regret for having said it. Why would he feel regret if he didn’t say it? Southern Strategy

    Even that was anecdotal, unsourced, not on tape, nor ever addressed by Limbaugh.

  151. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “They’re not on record.”

    Newsday reported that Rush felt guilty for saying it. Why would he feel guilty if he didn’t say it?

    “You claim I have no credibility, but you keep coming back to me. Makes no sense.”

    Cause I enjoy slapping you around in these debates.

    “You are both stalkers.”

    You don’t even know what that fucking word means.

    Me: “Rush felt regret for having said it. Why would he feel regret if he didn’t say it?”

    Dennis the Bigot: “Even that was anecdotal, unsourced, not on tape, nor ever addressed by Limbaugh.”

    So are you claiming Snopes lied about Newsday, or did Newsday lie about Rush?

    Which is your claim?

    I’d like an answer before you run off to your Klan meeting.

  152. Dennis says:

    I’d like an answer before you run off to your Klan meeting. Southern Strategy

    I already told you, OPERATION RUSH = FAIL , Strowbridge.

    The White House has confirmed that.

    The time has come to put away childish things.

  153. ed says:

    (Barely) Shorter Dennis: Even though those quotes are heavily sourced, there’s no way any of those sources are real because there’s no way Rush Limbaugh would ever ever ever say those things. Because I said so.

    Right, there’s no way the guy who repeated the song, “Barrack the Magic Negro” and called him a “Halfrican American” is a racist asshole. Or are the sources for those doozies just as bogus? Have you asked your Black Friend yet Dennis? What does he/she think about all this?

    Here comes yet another “Look! Over there!”

  154. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Me: “So are you claiming Snopes lied about Newsday, or did Newsday lie about Rush? ”

    Dennis the Bigot: “I already told you…”

    Way to ignore the question. I’ll take that as an admittance of defeat.

    Are you also going to admit Rush is a racist asshole?

    “OPERATION RUSH = FAIL”

    Actually, Operation Rush was a success. The GOP is more tied to Rush Limbaugh than before, so much so, that the White House no longer has to try and create that connection in the minds of the average voter. Now they can move on and claim the higher ground.

    But that doesn’t matter here. What matter here is if you are going to admit Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole? Or whether you are going to continue to defend him.

  155. Jaim says:

    Rush is the leader of the Republican Party ca. 2009. I’ve asked you before, Anti-Semite Dennis, to name who the current leader is. Boehner? Bush II?

    Nope. It’s Rush and his little apparatchiks like yourself.

    The important issue is the economy, and it’s going to take some time to see how the stimulus bill plays out. But in the meantime, we’ve got tactical party politics, and it’s amazing to see how the Republicans have screwed themselves yet again by making a drug-addicted bigot like Chairman Rushbo their leader.

    Cry and whine and poop your diapers all you want, but he’s your man.

  156. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Jaim: “Rush is the leader of the Republican Party ca. 2009. I’ve asked you before, Anti-Semite Dennis, to name who the current leader is. Boehner? Bush II?”

    I had to look up the name of the GOP leader in the Senate. That’s not good news for Mitch McConnell and his leadership abilities.

    On the plus side, it means he might not take as much of the blame when the GOP lose ground in 2010. He’s too foregttable to become the face of the GOP.

    “The important issue is the economy, and it’s going to take some time to see how the stimulus bill plays out.”

    Most people believe Obama won’t be truly accountable for the state of the economy till August… Of 2010. I full expect there will be visible signs of recovery by Q1 of 2010, which is a sizable margin of error.

  157. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Jaim: “Rush is the leader of the Republican Party ca. 2009. I’ve asked you before, Anti-Semite Dennis, to name who the current leader is. Boehner? Bush II?”

    The only think better than Rush as their leader would be this…

    americablog.com/2009/03/cheney-is-back-to-lead-gop-attack-on.html

  158. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    On a side note…

    huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/15/perino-bush-deserves-cred_n_175062.html

    People claiming Bush deserves credit for the uptick on the stock market this past week.

    This almost makes Dennis look lucid by comparison.

  159. Duros62 says:

    Shorter shorter Dennis: “Because shut up, that’s why!”

  160. ed says:

    This almost makes Dennis look lucid by comparison.

    Like Ms. Perino, Dennis also thinks that Saddam Hussein was responsible for the Bay of Pigs attacks (in addition to 9-11).

  161. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    On a side note about sexism…

    Dennis seems to think it is not sexist to insult a man by referring to negative stereotypes about women, even though it clearly is.

    So I have a question for him. Is the following racist?

    “You have to lay off the tanning salons. If you get any darker, you’ll have to sign up for welfare. Do you have a sudden craving for watermelons and fried chicken? It might be too late!”

  162. Dennis says:

    Strwobridge

    You have called another guy a pussy before. You are a either a hypocrite or you are sexist too. And that is scientific deduction.

    No one else is backing you on this. Other people posting on this blog post have used the term on this blog before, specifically, Duros, Mister ed, and Jaim- Jaim being the one I called a pussy. So your hypocrisy is all the more telling in that you save your admonitions for only people you disagree with.

    Either no one else agrees with you, or they are too afraid to speak up and agree with you, or they are too afraid to be called hypocrites because they know they’ve used the word themselves. And I doubt, like me, many of them have ever in their lives been admonished by another guy for calling another guy that name.

    So keep feigning indignation. It’s rather amusing.

  163. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “You have called another…”

    Way to avoid the question. I’d ask it again, but I don’t want you to call me a stalker.

    “So your hypocrisy is all the more telling in that you save your admonitions for only people you disagree with.”

    It is sexist whenever anyone uses it. However, since you keep whining about me calling you and the GOP racist, when you prove you are a bigot, it caries extra weight.

    “So keep feigning indignation. It’s rather amusing.”

    Small minds, simple pleasures?

    So keep being a racist, sexist, bigot. It’s rather amusing watching your kind fade into history.

    I just wish you would fade a little faster.

  164. Dennis says:

    It is sexist whenever anyone uses it. However, since you keep whining about me calling you and the GOP racist, when you prove you are a bigot, it caries extra weight. Southern Strategy

    Except you don’t admonish anyone on the liberal side for their ‘sexism’, whatever your definition is. Even Barack Obama’s blatant sexism is not a problem for you.
    I don’t whine about you calling me a bigot, just that you have to make shit up to come up with any examples, or that the examples you provide are very weak tea for the charge and a stretch for which you go to great lengths to project.

  165. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Dennis the Bigot: “Except you don’t admonish anyone on the liberal side for their ’sexism’, whatever your definition is.”

    And I should. I should tell people not to use sexist language. However, it is worse to be a bigot and complain about being called a bigot than it is to use sexist language.

    By the way, does that mean you finally admit it is sexist?

    “I don’t whine about you calling me a bigot…”

    Sure sounds like it.

    “…you go to great lengths to project.”

    Projecting about project. That is rich.

    So now that we’ve settled that…

    Is Rush Limbaugh a racist asshole?
    Did Snopes lie about Newsday, or did Newsday lie about Rush?
    What are the tenets of the Laffer curve?