Yes, please keep rallying to Rush.
With a national debate raging over the place of radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh in the Republican Party, a new national survey from Democracy Corps and
Greenberg Quinlan Rosner finds that Limbaugh weighs down heavily on an already weakened Republican Party – putting Republican leaders and their party’s conservative base voters out of sync with not only Democrats and independents, but even the bloc of moderate Republicans. On virtually every question the great majority of the mainstream rejects Limbaugh’s ideas and vision of the Republican Party, which severely constrains Republican elected leaders. It does not help that some of the key voters in the 2006 and 2008 elections, like younger voters, are particularly uncomfortable with Limbaugh’s politics. Conservative Republican voters, however, embrace Limbaugh, giving him a very high favorability rating; they say he shares their values and urge Republican leaders to defend him when he is criticizing President Obama.
Remarkably, voters view Limbaugh negatively by a two-to-one ratio (53 to 26 percent), with nearly half the country, 45 percent, viewing him very, very negatively. Among independents, the ratio rises to three-to-one. More important are the values that Limbaugh espouses. By a nearly two-to-one ratio (57 to 32 percent) a majority of voters – and independents – say Limbaugh does not “share their values,” but Republicans are in a different world where, by two-to-one, they believe he shares them.
Greenberg Quinlan Rosner finds that Limbaugh weighs down heavily on an already weakened Republican Party – putting Republican leaders and their party’s conservative base voters out of sync with not only Democrats and independents, but even the bloc of moderate Republicans. On virtually every question the great majority of the mainstream rejects Limbaugh’s ideas and vision of the Republican Party, which severely constrains Republican elected leaders. It does not help that some of the key voters in the 2006 and 2008 elections, like younger voters, are particularly uncomfortable with Limbaugh’s politics. Conservative Republican voters, however, embrace Limbaugh, giving him a very high favorability rating; they say he shares their values and urge Republican leaders to defend him when he is criticizing President Obama.
Great timing for James Carville of the ‘independent’ Democracy Corps to put out an ‘independent’ survey on Rush Limbaugh and how he hurts the Republican Party. Just after several liberal journalists write on how petty, partisan and poll-driven Obama’s people are for following along with Carville and Begala’s ploy.
[If you're just going to post links and excerpts to unrelated stuff go get your own blog - Oliver]
Voters are sick and tired of this nasty, personal stuff.
Cry me a river. You reap what you sow.
Thanks for the chuckle, Denny, that was good.
Of course what Dennis doesn’t note is that when things were bad for Dems in 2002 and John Kerry in 2004, Democracy Corps polls reflected just that. It’s like the pollsters asked people questions and got their responses. Or something.
Rush will NEVER get elected to the Senate with those numbers.
And neither will anybody else who panders to Rush, either.
Of course what Dennis doesn’t note…
Well, of course not, silly. That would negate the whole “New & Improved Left-Wing Conspiracy©”
Wow, the Republicans are in a hell of a spot. Never in my life, I think, have I seen a party with no center. It’s like they’re on their way to Green territory in terms of support.
Seriously, if you were a Republican, what would you do? The right loves him, the centrists can’t stand him. How did they get out of this?
**How ‘do’ they get out of this, not how ‘did’**
Great timing for James Carville of the ‘independent’ Democracy Corps to put out an ‘independent’ survey on Rush Limbaugh and how he hurts the Republican Party.
Good news, Dennis! The stupid radic-lib DemocRATS have fallen into a trap of their own making! They make up a poll that suggests that Americans hate racist and sexist asshole and all-around douchebag with no self-control Rush Limbaugh. But you know better. You and your fellow Dittoheads know The Truth. People lurve Rush! By all means, let’s help Carville et al seal their own fate! If you want to keep making Rush known as the de facto head of the modern Republican party (which he is, huzzah!), I’ll do whatever I can to assist you.
Peace! (ha! not really!)
ed
Rush will NEVER get elected to the Senate with those numbers.
Depends where he runs. Or for what. For example, I bet Rush could get elected to the Shelby County, Texas County Commission (if you catch my drift, heh). It’s not an elected position, but Rush would be well suited to Ambassador to Dumbfuckistan.
(….someone’s off their meds…). Get your thumb out of Dennis’s mouth, Ed.
The Dems just used Rush’s king-sized ego and lack of intellect to pit him against himself. His insecurities makes him the gift that keeps on giving.
It’s beautiful!
Of course what Dennis doesn’t note is that when things were bad for Dems in 2002 and John Kerry in 2004, Democracy Corps polls reflected just that. OW
I was going to note that along with a link but I thought it might be unrelated since they were from six and four years ago and had nothing to do with Rush Limbaugh.
This is like if John Zogby secretly conspired with George Bush and Karl Rove to attack Michael Moore right after Katrina, because his internal polling had revealed that Moore would be the perfect foil for them and he could easily be painted as the face of the Democratic Party and that mainly loony left nutcases followed him but secretly all of them admired him. Plus it would be a perfect diversionary tactic. Then once it’s revealed that Zogby was working with Bush and Rove after Bush had scolded Democrats for listening to Michael Moore and watching his bullshit movie and Rove had appeared on Face the Nation and repeated it and the conservative blogs talked about it non-stop for the next two months and the ensuing pushback against Bush makes him appear small and petty in the face of such a horrible crisis, then Zogby comes out with a poll confirming that Michael Moore was indeed unpopular among all but the very hard-core loony Left.
Except, of course, Michael Moore isn’t the de facto head of the Democratic Party. Prominent Dems don’t clamor to kiss his ring. You forgot that too.
But if you think that Rush Limbaugh is The Awesome and is way popular and will not hurt your beloved GOP (swell buncha guys they are), then keep on keepin on.
“Fake but accurate” again, Denny?
Stop making shit up.
(….someone’s off their meds…). Get your thumb out of Dennis’s mouth, Ed.
What the fuck are you talking about, Jack J.?
But if you think that Rush Limbaugh is The Awesome and is way popular and will not hurt your beloved GOP (swell buncha guys they are), then keep on keepin on. Aqualung ed
I’m just amused at how this has become the liberal blogs and Democrat’s strategy all of a sudden to the point that they can’t stop talking about it. James Carville did a poll laast fall and all of sudden he feels the urge to update it to confirm something he already knew enough about to convince Obama to employ the strategy they came up with. Is Carville doing it out of love for country and bipartisanship to help Republicans?
I know that is your concern, ed, but I’m not so sure about James Carville.
Is Carville doing it out of love for country and bipartisanship to help Republicans?
Could be. You’re supporting Mr. Limbaugh to help Republicans, right?
This is like if …
…you hadn’t actually lived through the last eight years during which the right wing noise machine has thrown out everyone from Michael Moore to Ward Churchill to Bill Ayers as the “Voice of the Left in America.”
The difference being is that Rush Limbaugh IS the voice of conservative America. If you want to argue that he isn’t, great, but you’d have to take it up with Limbaugh himself.
James Carville did a poll laast fall and all of sudden he feels the urge to update it to confirm something he already knew enough about to convince Obama to employ the strategy they came up with.
Is that what happened, Denny? Really? You know this for a fact?
I was going to note that along with a link but I thought it might be unrelated since they were from six and four years ago and had nothing to do with Rush Limbaugh.
Except that your original point had nothing to do with Limbaugh in the first place, it had to do with Democracy Corps’s credibility, which Oliver addressed.
Except an advisor/stategist/independent pollster never did anything like that with Bush, falafaroo. And Bush never once told Dems they couldn’t keep listening to any specific person on the Democratic side and expect to get anything done, knowing full well it was part of an orchestrated strategy to go after that person.
Never mind that Obama quoted scripture and told people now is the time to put away childish things. On the one hand you have people on the Obama side saying they may have erred in attacking Limbaugh; on the other you have Carville releasing his firm’s poll confirming what he already know. Mus be his internals showed that his strategy was working even if it was mildly embarrassing to Obama. Small price to pay when you only have so much of a window to take maximum advantage of a crisis.
Mm-hm. FYI Dennis, The Colbert Report is parody.
I’m just amused at how this has become the liberal blogs and Democrat’s strategy all of a sudden to the point that they can’t stop talking about it.
And I’m just amused that conservatives can’t stop talking about how this is some trumped up, vast liberal conspiracy against Limbaugh, instead of addressing the fact that conservative champion Limbaugh is a negative with most Americans and why that is.
Equally amusing is how, when conservatives like Michael Steele and David Frum, do criticize Limbaugh, they are either forced to prostrate themselves before El Rushbo or villified as traitors to the cause.
Dennis’s playbook.
iIs that what happened, Denny? Really? You know this for a fact?
I haven’t gone over the October poll to compare line by line, but I think what I said was a fair statement given this Politico article, which to my knowledge has not been refuted by Carville, or anyone, that I know of.
The strategy took shape after Democratic strategists Stanley Greenberg and James Carville included Limbaugh’s name in an October poll and learned their longtime tormentor was deeply unpopular with many Americans, especially younger voters. Then the conservative talk-radio host emerged as an unapologetic critic of Barack Obama shortly before his inauguration, when even many Republicans were showering him with praise…..
And Bush never once told Dems they couldn’t keep listening to any specific person on the Democratic side and expect to get anything done, knowing full well it was part of an orchestrated strategy to go after that person.
ROFLMAO. You did just wake up from a coma didn’t you? For eight years and even before the message from the Right has been that the Democrat party is “held hostage by the far left fringe” usually followed by a list of the liberal demons du jour: Moore, Churchill, MoveOn, ACORN, Media Matters, the ACLU (an oldie but a goodie), Ayers etc. etc.
If you want to argue that this universally accepted and promoted premise was not part of an orchestrated message machine, great, have at it. Good luck with that.
Equally amusing is how, when conservatives like Michael Steele and David Frum, do criticize Limbaugh, they are either forced to prostrate themselves before El Rushbo or villified as traitors to the cause. falafaroo
Hadn’t heard Frum had to prostrate himself, but haven’t been watching it closely. Not sure he’s been villified, either. People disagreeing maybe, but haven’t seen villification. Nothing on the order of what Jim Cramer is getting from his liberal peeps.
You forgot arugula and tire pressure. Lets not forget those important issues.
fafaroo-
This is very much pertinent to the blog post, although OW may disagree.
Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail
This poll today just seems just a little too self-serving. Plus I know how much you guys hate hypocrisy.
Look over there! At Fox News! They have something vitally important to share with us! Go now! Hurry! It’s important!
From Dennis’ link:
And how does Fox spin this:
Gee, I wonder if the other reason reporters didn’t report Carville’s quote is because Carville told them to “disregard” it because the country was suddenly thrust into crisis. Of course, not. It’s because the liberal media was “covering” for Carville.
I suppose you could argue that 9-11 and the current economic meltdown are different things and so it’s still cool to hope the president fails to turn the economy around.
So, Dennis, do you want to make that argument?
“ALBATROSS! Git yer ALBATROSS!!!”
Dennis’s playbook.
No shit, huh? Especially #10.
That’s bizarre. Why would Fox News sit on that scoop for so long? Why would they wait until now to break it? Or did they only now stumble upon it. Kind of like we only learned that John Kerry wasn’t a loyal U.S. soldier, but actually a subversive traitor for the Viet Cong, in August of the year was the Democratic nominee for President, more than 30 years after the fact. It’s weird how responsible journalism plays out. Non-Fox News reporters should take note.
Nothing on the order of what Jim Cramer is getting from his liberal peeps.
Oh what is that? People disagreeing with him?
The NOIVE of some people!
Why would Fox News sit on that scoop for so long?
Because before now, Carville hadn’t been a rank hypocrite (at least on this issue.)
Because before now, Carville hadn’t been a rank hypocrite (at least on this issue.)
Good thing we have professional journalists like the ones at Fox News to reveal The Fair and Balanced Truth!
Because before now, Carville hadn’t been a rank hypocrite (at least on this issue.)
So you believe that 9-11 was a different kind of crisis than the current economic crisis in that it’s okay to hope the president fails in his handling of the latter?
Fafaroo-
Are you saying it’s ok to hope the President fails as long as there’s not an immediate crisis at hand?
No one here seemed fazed in the least to learn of the independent poll in 2006 in the midst of two raging wars that 51% of Democrats hoped Bush would fail.
SaveFarris is correct in that a Democratic strategist saying he hoped Bush would fail was not exactly news. Even after 9/11 for him to have said it previously would not have been news. It’s pertinent now because it was his strategy to go after Limbaugh.
He’s a strategist. He’s married to a Republican strategist. It’s not a newsflash that he’s a hypocrite. It’s rarely ever a newsflash when a liberal is a hypocrite.
Because before now, Carville hadn’t been a rank hypocrite
Oh, yes he has.
Never cared for James “Lex Luthor” Carville. He seems like the very worst sort of used car salesman.
Dennis: It’s rarely ever a newsflash when a liberal is a hypocrite.”
Dennis, I think your irony meter is broken. You might want to get it checked.
Gotta side with mambochicken on this one. You can’t be a hypocrite if you denounce the very concept of morality itself.
Never cared for James “Lex Luthor” Carville. He seems like the very worst sort of used car salesman. Duros
Neither did many liberal bloggers, Duros, especially after he tipped off his wife that Kerry was going to contest Ohio in 2004. A lot of them hate him for that.
None to my knowledge seemed at all turned off to learn that the strategy to go after Limbaugh was hatched by this guy and his independent polling. Nor does Obama or Emmanuel. Gosh, come to think of it, neither does Cornell School of Agriculture alumnus, Edward R. Olbermann.
None to my knowledge seemed at all turned off to learn that the strategy to go after Limbaugh was hatched by this guy and his independent polling.
Yes, it was clearly James Carville and Rahm Emanuel who got conservatives to invite Limbaugh to CPAC and embark on an hour long tirade.
You can’t be a hypocrite if you denounce the very concept of morality itself.
I call.
Who does that?
You can’t be a hypocrite if you denounce the very concept of morality itself. SaveFarris
Excellent point, SaveFarris.
Gosh, come to think of it, neither does Cornell School of Agriculture alumnus, Edward R. Olbermann.
Remember folks, it’s the liberals who are elitist!
Exactly what is you’re freaking point, Dennis? You think this whole Limbaugh hoohaw is some dark liberal conspiracy? It isn’t, okay? Only in your head is it that nefarious.
It is Limbaugh’s bloated, fat ego that keeps this alive, given life by a throw away comment from the President about the obstructionism of the GOP to fix this country’s ills.
But keep talking up that “enemies list” like there is some comparison to 1973 somehow, like a good little sheep.
Speaking of morality…
Parthy- Olby’s a fraud and a hypocrite. Nothing elitist in pointing that out. He makes fun of other people’s educations and passes himself off as Ivy League, when he’s not. Nothing wrong with the school he went to. It’s elitist on his part to pretend to be superior to people who he thinks are stupid and don’t have diplomas from prestigious schools, which he has done.
You guy are attacking Rush, while DC kids just got a royal screwing by the Prez. Screw the Black kids trying to get an education, but let’s stay focused on a radio guy, an MSNBC reporter, and a guy with a business show.
Works for me!
It’s elitist on his part to pretend to be superior to people who he thinks are stupid and don’t have diplomas from prestigious schools, which he has done.
You mean like “Dr.” Michael Weiner-Savage?
Not sure he’s [David Frum] been villified, either.
No, of course not.
Are you saying it’s ok to hope the President fails as long as there’s not an immediate crisis at hand?
Are you saying it’s okay to hope the President fails in the midst of a crisis?
SaveFarris: You can’t be a hypocrite if you denounce the very concept of morality itself.
Dennis: Excellent point, SaveFarris.
At the risk of making this thread absolutely impossible to navigate… just WHAT the fuck are you guys talking about? You can’t be expected to be taken seriously if you make such stupid comments. Seriously.
joaquin,
Do you live in DC? Do your kids go to school here? Do they go to PUBLIC school here? (I’m including public charter schools here, too.)
If not, please STFU.
I’m very, very tired of the rest of the US using my adopted hometown as an experimental lab for every hair-brained, half-baked policy notion that oozes out of some think tank. The fact that we don’t have a real vote in Congress despite the taxes we pay and the insufferable crap that gets imposed on us by Congress is a travesty.
The voucher system did nothing to improve schools in DC–it only pulled funding from a woefully underfunded public program, one that kids of all racial backgrounds attend.
Folks can’t be taken seriously?
This from one named mambochicken23
*PFFFFFFFFT*
locus – Complete irrelevancy.
Today, President Obama signed the spending bill and told Washington DC kids and his Education Sec. Arne Duncan to STICK IT!
Last week, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said that poor children getting vouchers to attend private schools in the District of Columbia should be allowed to stay there, but by signing the bill, Obama has denied those poor children an education………… much like the one his girls are getting.
“I don’t think it makes sense to take kids out of a school where they’re happy and safe and satisfied and learning,” Duncan said. “I think those kids need to stay in their school.”
Maybe the president is only trying to reduce the size of his daughter’s classes??
What a guy!
Locus – You fought in Iraq?
Have you worked on an oil platform?
Ever seen an abortion?
Been to the moon?
Have you played in the NFL?
Played golf with Tiger?
Wrote legislation?
Argued a case in the Supreme Court?
If you haven’t then STFU!
Made my point???? HA!
Cocktail time! C ya!
And, of course, both here and on his blog post, which he thoughtfully copied and pasted here in it’s entirety, Joaker “forgets” any sort of linkage or citation.
In other words, bite me.
Not sure he’s [David Frum] been villified, either. Me
No, of course not. Oliver
You left off the sentence before that admitted I hadn’t been following it that closely. Nice crop and paste.
Levin gets into an argument with Frum over his article. Doesn’t mean conservatives villified him. My point that you took out of context was that it wasn’t a case of Frum having to apologize to Limbaugh or else be villified from the right, because I don’t think either has happened. He criticised Limbaugh, Levin and I imagine a few others weighed in. No big deal either way. There’s good and bad things about Limbaugh just like there’s good and bad things about everybody. No different than you guys arguing over Hillary vs. Obama and then stopping your criticism of her once Obama wins and even more so when she’s named SOS.
There’s good and bad things about Limbaugh just like there’s good and bad things about everybody.
So really then you don’t have a point at all, do you?
There’s good and bad things about Limbaugh just like there’s good and bad things about everybody.
What would you say are the bad things about Limbaugh?
So really then you don’t have a point at all, do you? falafaroo
Yeah, I do have a point. When you said conservatives like David Frum criticize Limbaugh, they are either forced to prostrate themselves before El Rushbo or villified as traitors to the cause, I am disagreeing that that was the case. Since I said I didn’t follow that one all that closely, why don’t you provide a link that backs up your claim that he prostrated himself or a few that shows there was a concerted effort to villify him, instead of relying on Oliver’s crop and paste job.
What would you say are the bad things about Limbaugh? Mister ed
That he drives people like you to the edge of insanity, and I think that can be cruel if taken too far. I wish he’d be more compassionate. I think he thinks you can be changed, and I disagree with that. It’s more innate.
You forgot racist asshole. That’s a bad thing. Among other related bad things.
I think that can be cruel if taken too far. I wish he’d be more compassionate.
Really. How so? How, specifically, can Mr. Limbaugh be cruel? How is he less compassionate than you would like? Examples?
passes himself off as Ivy League, when he’s not.
My brother is a Cornell alumnus, and HE says Cornell teams play in the Ivy League. What league do YOU think Cornell plays in?
Dear Leader Comrade Rush, master of the Republican party ca. 2009. None question his brilliant leadership lest they suffer the consequences.
You Republicans need a Howard Dean right now. You’ve got a pissy-pants wannabe Stalin.
joaquin: Thanks for the non-reply. I take that to mean that you know that you’re completely full of shit.
I no longer believe that you’re sincere. The stuff you spew is too idiotic, too stereotypically dumb-right-wing. You’re a fucking jokester. If you were as stupid as you appear to be, I doubt you’d be able to tie your shoes, let alone type at a keyboard.
With respect to my screen name: “Great Mambo Chicken and the Transhuman Condition”. A book I read when I was a kid. Science-oriented, with an eye on the future of science (e.g., nanotechnology, personal orbital rockets, etc.) Read a book, dipshit.
Since I said I didn’t follow that one all that closely, why don’t you provide a link that backs up your claim that he prostrated himself or a few that shows there was a concerted effort to villify him, instead of relying on Oliver’s crop and paste job.
First of all, Dennis, since you’re this week’s advocate of reading comprehension why don’t you go back and comprehend my original comment which inlcluded Michael Steele who did, in fact, prostrate himself before Limbaugh.
Second, right wingers have been virtually unanimous in their attacks on Frum since the newsweek article came out.
Here’s Frum’s NRO pals Andy McCarthy and Mark Steyn:
McCarthy:
And Steyn:
And seriously, the right wing blogs went nuts over that Mark Levin “interview” which Oliver linked to above.
I listened to it. Loved the part where Levin shut off Frum’s mic so he could build up momentum on one of his patented whiny rants.
Do you really want me to plum the depths of the Free Republic comment threads for you, as well?
fafaroo-
Still don’t think 2 or 3 guys on National Review bantering back on forth about Frum rises to the level of calling it villification. Villification is what you guys do to Santelli and Cramer.
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My brother is a Cornell alumnus, and HE says Cornell teams play in the Ivy League. What league do YOU think Cornell plays in? Repack Rider
Repack, see Coulter, Ann.
Olbermann’s Plastic Ivy
Dennis, really, citing ANN COULTER as evidence of something? Was she on one of Cornell’s teams that was NOT part of the Ivy League? Because that’s what the Ivy League is, an athletic conference, and anyone who attends any of Cornell’s many colleges is eligible to play in that league, i.e. an “Ivy Leaguer.” Not to go all Wikipedia on you, but that source provides a concise definition of the Ivy League.
I’m not seeing any exceptions made for specific schools within a university, so apparently Ms. Coulter is the moronic harpy we all suspected she was.
My brother is a grad, and he says Olbermann is an Ivy Leaguer. Who do you think I’m going to believe, a woman with a long history of stupidity and vile statements, or my own brother, who in addition to being very smart is, unlike Coulter, a warm and caring person.
Still don’t think 2 or 3 guys on National Review bantering back on forth about Frum rises to the level of calling it villification.
Right. But two of Frum’s own colleagues at NRO referring to him as “shameful” and guilty of the “sin” of “putting his own interests ahead of the party’s” is nothing to comment on either, apparently.
Neither is rising talk radio loon Mark Levin’s rant against Frum.
How many comments in this thread before Dennis has a coronary?
The beautiful thing though is that a post like this, with dutiful little Limbaugh-brown nosers like Dennis and Joaquin, just proves the brilliance of Rahm Emmanuel staging all of this. Either Republicans embrace Rush and alienate the rest of the reality-based American populace who want nothing to do with a drug-addicted pedophile bigot, or they renounce him like Steele and Frum, and get screamed at by the ditto-heads.
There’s just too much awesome going on lately in witnessing the death of the Republican party.
It’s like the Republicans are on a plane being piloted by Rush, all hopped up on Oxycontin and Viagra, going down in flames over the Bermuda Triangle. A relatively reasonable guy like Frum (he’s a winger nut-job, but at least he understands that the Republican party is going to evaporate soon) is saying “Hey, maybe we should get another pilot.”
So they strangle him. And Dennis and Jay are helping and screaming “LEAVE RUSH ALONE!!!”
My God, it’s great to be alive these days.
Ed: “They make up a poll that suggests that Americans hate racist and sexist asshole and all-around douchebag with no self-control Rush Limbaugh.”
Dennis the Bigot thinks the poll is made up, because he’s sexist and I’m 90% sure he’s racist as well. So of course he doesn’t want to believe Americans hate people like that.
Dennis the Bigot thinks the poll is made up, because he’s sexist and I’m 90% sure he’s racist as well. Southern Strategy
That’s it, Southern Strategy?? 80 comments on this thread and you show up last and say nothing, save for calling me a couple names you couldn’t back up if I gave you all day to come up with any sort of basis for your charges.
When you said once before:
“This is why I insult them. It’s as productive as using logical against them, and it’s more fun.”,
it’s what you’ve decided to become on here, a caricature of yourself. No debate, no logic; just name-calling. Because “it’s more fun”.
A Canadian who gets his jollies calling Americans in their own country names he just makes up and can’t back up.
Pathetic little man you are, Southern Strategy. Besides insults all you have to offer here are the same themes of Republicans as racists/Southern Strategy and Republicans as the pathetic minority. Since you’ve been called out on it as being a broken record on the former and Jaims has claimed ownership on the latter, all you have left now is to throw insults.
And why not, “it’s more fun than using logical”.
Dennis the Bigot: “A Canadian who…”
Once again, Dennis the Bigot goes after me through my nationality while calling me Southern Strategy. The irony.
By the way, are you carpooling with J.G.Thayer to your Klan meeting tonight? Those crosses aren’t going to burn themselves, are they?
“Since you’ve been called out on it as being a broken record…”
I’m the broken record?
That’s rich.
The GOP is systemically racist, and you attack the people who point that out for being broken records. It’s an interesting tactic, but it won’t work.
I don’t care how many times you call me Southern Strategy, it won’t change the GOP is still the party than caters to racists.
Gee, I wonder why you defend them? I know for a fact that you are sexist. I know for a fact you are nationalistic. I’m 90% sure you are racist and homophobic.
In short, you are the perfect picture of the GOP base.
Examples, Southern Strategy.
If you’re so certain, please point to something. Otherwise you’re just another Aqualung mumbling the same things over and over as delusions in your sad, sick mind.
In short, you are the perfect picture of the GOP base.
Indeed. And what a swell bunch they are.
I don’t care how many times you call me Southern Strategy, it won’t change the GOP is still the party than caters to racists.
I love how Dennis, he of the lame attempts to empower himself by hanging nicknames (no wonder he lurved George Bush, Jr. so much), keeps calling you “Southern Strategy,” as though that repulsive concept never really existed (or still does). When you consider that it’s the Party of Palin, it’s not really surprising.
Dennis the Bigot: “Examples, Southern Strategy.”
Remember that time you commented on my ‘time of the month’ and my ‘estrogen level’?
That’s 100% sexism. Absolute and undeniable sexism.
As for you nationalistic streak, you’ve said repeatedly that as a Canadian, I shouldn’t talk about America. Now, this is either an Anti-Canadian bias, which doesn’t make sense, since Canada is too boring to hate. Or it’s is nationalism.
Now, one prejudice could be the result of a bad personal experience. Two of them… No, I think it is more likely that you are just a bigot. Bigots hate all those who are different than themselves, and different by race, gender religion, sexual identity.
“I love how Dennis, he of the lame attempts to empower himself by hanging nicknames (no wonder he lurved George Bush, Jr. so much), keeps calling you ‘Southern Strategy,’ as though that repulsive concept never really existed (or still does). When you consider that it’s the Party of Palin, it’s not really surprising.”
Every time he uses it, he just reminds people that the GOP is systemically racist. Not really a good tactic if he’s trying to defend the GOP.
But like you said, maybe he doesn’t believe the Southern Strategy existed. Or maybe he doesn’t believe the Southern Strategy was racist.
Whatever the reason, I don’t it makes a lot of sense outside of his diseases mind.
It’s like the Republicans are on a plane being piloted by Rush, all hopped up on Oxycontin and Viagra
Did you know pilots aren’t allowed to fly if they’ve taken Viagra in the last 48 hours, because it makes you see everything blue and it may interfere with interpreting warning lights?
Just a little trivia.
Carry on.
Remember that time you commented on my ‘time of the month’ and my ‘estrogen level’?
That’s 100% sexism. –Southern Strategy
Only if you’re a girl. And I assumed you weren’t they way you throw out vulgarities. If you are a girl, I apologize for that remark.
Next.
As for you nationalistic streak, you’ve said repeatedly that as a Canadian, I shouldn’t talk about America.– Southern Strategy
I didn’t say that. Pull up a quote if you want to argue that I did, but I didn’t. I’ve said that it’s odd that you as a citizen of a foreign country take such delight in railing against citizens of this country who do far more to better the USA than you ever have or ever will, just because they don’t share your political views. I never said ‘you shouldn’t talk about America’.
Go dig up the quote and quit putting words in my mouth. That’s just being an asshole. And very weak.
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No, I think it is more likely that you are just a bigot. –Southern Strategy
You have nothing, S. Strategy. You never do.
I do find it interesting that, as a Canadian, Strowbridge has a much better grasp of American history of/and politics than Denny does.
But like you said, maybe he doesn’t believe the Southern Strategy existed. Or maybe he doesn’t believe the Southern Strategy was racist.
Well, Dennis does defend racist asshole Rush Limbaugh. He’s never denied that Mr. Limbaugh is a racist asshole (it’s not really possible), but defends him nonetheless. It’s what the modern Republican party (i.e., since Nixon’s truly hateful Southern Strategy) does.
But like you said, maybe he doesn’t believe the Southern Strategy existed. Or maybe he doesn’t believe the Southern Strategy was racist. –Southern Strategy Strowbridge
You just cannot stop talking about it, can you? Even if you tried, you couldn’t. You’re like a Southern Strategy idiot savant.
A Southern Strategy Rainman.
I do find it interesting that, as a Canadian, Strowbridge has a much better grasp of American history of/and politics than Denny does. Duros
Debatable, Duros, but nevertheless, if you want to get Southern Strategy’s back so much, why don’t you back up his lie that I told him that as a Canadian, he shouldn’t talk about America. If I ever said anything I couldn’t back up that was that easy to look up, I’d have you, him, fafaroo, OW, Mister ed and a few others harassing me for proof. When Southern Strategy makes up a claim out of whole cloth that is untrue, you are suddenly silent, even though you admonished me for pointing out that very aspect of his hypocrisy.
You just cannot stop talking about it, can you? Even if you tried, you couldn’t.
Well, some of us think it’s important. Obviously. If you think it isn’t, as with evolution, you’re certainly free to believe otherwise. You obviously don’t believe Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole; that’s your prerogative. I’m sure David Duke doesn’t either, as is his right.
Me: “Remember that time you commented on my ‘time of the month’ and my ‘estrogen level’?
That’s 100% sexism. –Southern Strategy”
Dennis the Bigot: “Only if you’re a girl.”
No, you fuckwit. calling someone a girl or that they have tendencies that are ‘girl-like’ is sexist.
God! The fact that I have to explain this to you is pathetic. You truly are so sexist that you don’t recognize it anymore.
Me: “As for you nationalistic streak, you’ve said repeatedly that as a Canadian, I shouldn’t talk about America.”
“I didn’t say that. Pull up a quote if you want to argue that I did, but I didn’t. I’ve said that it’s odd…”
Odd? No, Dennis. You didn’t say it was odd.
However, considering you didn’t realize saying it was my time of month was sexist, I’m not surprised are confused about what you said here.
Me: “But like you said, maybe he doesn’t believe the Southern Strategy existed. Or maybe he doesn’t believe the Southern Strategy was racist.”
Dennis the Bigot: “You just cannot stop talking about it, can you? Even if you tried, you couldn’t.”
Why would I want to stop talking about it?
The GOP is a racist organization. Anyone who belongs to it is either racist themselves, or enabling racism.
I’m not going to stop saying this till the GOP changes its stripes.
Don’t like it? Well then, you can go fuck yourself, you racist piece of shit.
Dennis the Bigot now: “…if you want to get Southern Strategy’s back so much, why don’t you back up his lie that I told him that as a Canadian, he shouldn’t talk about America.”
Dennis the Bigot then: “I don’t have a problem with where he lives, Duros, I just have a problem with his being a citizen of another country and constantly ridiculing people who live, work, raise families, vote, pay taxes, donate to charity and help their community in this country, because he doesn’t agree with their politics.”
So you are saying you have a problem with what I’m doing, but that’s completely different that saying I shouldn’t do it?
Are you really going to go on record and split hairs like that?
It’s not splitting hairs at all. You on the other hand can’t back up your claim. It should be easy to do if it were true. But like I said, you never do. You always demand it of others, though.
You sir, are a fraud.
Dennis, here’s a simple question written in one-syllable words that you might possibly understand:
Does Dear Leader Grand Chairman Rusho run the Cons now, or does he not?
(K, going back to reality adult-speak.)
If he does, then you are fucked. If he doesn’t, then who does? Because there is no one else, you and the party of Rush are fucked.
Me: “So you are saying you have a problem with what I’m doing, but that’s completely different that saying I shouldn’t do it?
Are you really going to go on record and split hairs like that?”
Dennis the Bigot says: “It’s not splitting hairs at all.”
Yes it is. How can complaining that I’m doing something be seen as doing anything other than saying I should stop?
‘I don’t like what you are doing, but I want you to continue.’
Nope. That’s fucking stupid.
You only complain about someone’s behavior when you want that behavior to stop.
(And I noticed you dropped your defense of the sexist remark.)
Dennis also won’t deny that Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole (it is undeniable), yet Dennis actively defends Mr. Limbaugh. Now what does this say about Dennis?
(And I noticed you dropped your defense of the sexist remark.)
I rested my case. It was silly to begin with. Sorry, Southern Strategy, I’ve just never had any guy call me sexist after asking him if it was that time of the month for him. You were the first. You were stretching to come up with that one, so it needs no further defense.
And I noticed you still won’t provide one iota of documentation for any charges you’ve made.
Why is that?
Dennis still not denyin’ that Rush Limbaugh is racist asshole. Good for you Dennis! Stay strong!
Ignoring you is not a sign of admission or denial, Mister ed.
It’s gotten to where when I see your name, I already know what the post will be.
You and Southern Strategy and Jaim the liberal John Galt make up the Oliver Willis blog One Trick Pony Brigade.
if you want to get Southern Strategy’s back so much, why don’t you back up his lie that I told him that as a Canadian, he shouldn’t talk about America.
I won’t say definitively that you have told him he shouldn’t speak ill of the lower 48, but you have been condescending and belligerent of where he lives for about, oh, 6 weeks now. You’ve made denigrating remarks about where he lives and what he does for a living.
for you old-timers here, it’s like Frank and factcheck all over again.Pretty soon, Denny is gonna challenge CSS to meet him on a street corner in NYC for a whoopin’.
(I don’t seem to be having the same apostrophe issue that others are having.”””)
That would be 3 trick ponies, wouldn’t it?
I said Brigade, Duros.
And you try so hard.
Question for Dennis:
Is Rush Limbaugh a racist asshole?
“[Blacks] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”–Dennis
Whatever. Which brigade are you in? How’s the stock market doing today?
What’s your source for that one, Mister ed?
What’s your source for the quote you posted yesterday about telling someone to take the bone out of his nose?
My bad, that’s your BFFF Rush Limbaugh. But you’re OK with that statement, right Dennis. Classy as ever!
The source may be easily found through letmegooglethatforyou.com
. But you’re OK with that statement, right Dennis. Classy as ever! Mister ed
Not ok if he said it. No solid evidence he said it, though, or you’d post it.
You’re just as much the fraud as Southern Strategy is. You seem to get off on circulating racist things that you have no idea whether they are true or not and then demanding people defend it. When they don’t respond, you call them a racist for defending what you posted.
I never knew liberals could be like that. I’m baffled.
Not ok if he said it. No solid evidence he said it, though, or you’d post it.
Is your Google button broken? (psst, I posted it yesterday):
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549
But you’re right, your BFFF would never ever say that. Or “take that bone out of your nose and call me back” or “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.” Ha ha. Get it? It’s funny ’cause it’s racist asshole demagoguery. But please, keep defending your main man and your awesome political party. Classy bunch you run with there.
“And don’t forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There’s a racial component here, too. And now, the newspaper that I’m reading all this from is The New York Times, and they, of course, don’t mention that.” –on the 2006 Ohio Senate primary race involving then-Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-OH), who is white
“Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
Ooh, this one is awesome.
Emphasis added for extra lulz.
Rush Limbaugh, de facto leader of the modern Republican party, is indeed the racist asshole who keeps on giving racist asshole quotes. Charming as ever.
Me: “And I noticed you dropped your defense of the sexist remark.
Dennis the Bigot: “I rested my case. It was silly to begin with. Sorry, Southern Strategy, I’ve just never had any guy call me sexist after asking him if it was that time of the month for him.”
And it is sexist. Implying someone is a woman as an insult is sexist. That’s 100% undeniable.
The fact that you are confused on this shows how sexist your are.
I was in an argument in a hockey board and some people were calling a player gay. I explained to them that was homophobic, and they responded, ‘We don’t actually think he’s gay. We just call him gay as an insult.’
… And that’s what was homophobic about it. Using the term ‘gay’ as an insult is homophobic, and it implies there is something wrong with being gay.
Saying someone is a woman as an insult is sexist, because it implies there is something wrong with being a woman.
This is exactly what you did. Therefore, you are sexist.
Dennis the bigot: “And I noticed you still won’t provide one iota of documentation for any charges you’ve made.
Why is that?”
Because you are blind? No wait, not blind… Stupid.
You actually argued with the quotes I gave. So obviously I must have given you quotes.
Strange defense, by the way. Pretend evidence you’ve addressed wasn’t given.
Dennis the Bigot: “Ignoring you is not a sign of admission or denial, Mister ed.”
But you are not ignoring him. You are replying to his posts. You are just ignoring his question.
Dennis the Bigot: “if you want to get Southern Strategy’s back so much, why don’t you back up his lie that I told him that as a Canadian, he shouldn’t talk about America.”
Duros62: “I won’t say definitively that you have told him he shouldn’t speak ill of the lower 48, but you have been condescending and belligerent of where he lives for about, oh, 6 weeks now. You’ve made denigrating remarks about where he lives and what he does for a living.”
Two points…
1.) Are you Portuguese by any chance? Or a Star Wars fan?
2.) Complaining that someone is doing something and saying they shouldn’t are the same. Even I’m not that anal to make that distinction.
And as a bonus…
3.) Making fun of me being a movie critic is 100% jealousy. In the past 18 months since I made the leap to High Definition, I have received $3000 worth of free Blu-rays, and I’ve reviewed twice as many DVDs in the same time frame. I have an awesome job. … Mostly. (It really sucks reviewing bad movies. Not so much bad movies, but boring movies.)
1. Portuguese? No. Star Wars fan? Not die hard, who here isn’t? (PURELY out of curiosity, I googled Empire Storm Troopers uniform, just to see where people get them and what they spend on them.)
2. didn’t realize I did that. Upon rereading, yeah I can see how that looks. I know Denny has told you you shouldn’t talk about “mericans because you’re not one of us, I just don’t feel like looking for it. Sue me.
3. Dude, I know I am jealous. Get paid to watch movies? Where do I sign up?*
*Although you have spoken about reviewing Nick jr. shows. Don’t know if I could do that sober.
Duros64: “1 Portuguese? No. Star Wars fan? Not die hard, who here isn’t? (PURELY out of curiosity, I googled Empire Storm Troopers uniform, just to see where people get them and what they spend on them.)”
I ask because Duros is a name of a species in Star Wars, and their language is based on Portuguese.
“2. didn’t realize I did that.
3. Dude, I know I am jealous.”
I was talking about Dennis here, not you.
“Get paid to watch movies? Where do I sign up?*
*Although you have spoken about reviewing Nick jr. shows. Don’t know if I could do that sober.”
Actually, reviewing those is easy. Reviewing Disaster Movie was painful.