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88 SWEEEEET!
88? I didn’t think that was possible. You’re barely evolved enough to be called human.
313.5, baby!
Way over the top–in the 300s.
I shall now pass out my socialized everthing t-shirts . . . . .
“You’re barely evolved enough to be called human.”
LMAO!!!!
I was 310 the first time I took the exam and thought for sure I am not THAT progressive and took the exam one more time and got a 297. I will call it a 300+ score which is pretty sweet.
363, and am disappointed it was that low.
I got 319/400.
If interested, you may want to try
296/400
308/400
367, Willis you might as well be a Fascist:-)
321! More than a liberal democrat?
289.
Duros re joaquin: 88? I didn’t think that was possible. You’re barely evolved enough to be called human.
Just for calibration, answering the extreme on just one question and neutral (5) on all others moves the needle 5 points. So to score 88 isn’t that far much farther off to one side than the ~300 plus folks are reporting. Basically it’s averaging a 60% of the way towards “as conservative as you can get”, so there may be hope for joaquin after all.
Damn, didn’t close a tag. Hate it when that happens. Everything after “Just…” is me, of course. Not Duros.
Yeah, I got that. I thought from the scale, 160 was MOST conservative.
357! Pinko commies unite!
316. Sounds about right.
I don’t need a frickin quiz to tell me how progressive I am, especially one with such stupid questions.
330.
292, Just right of Oliver.
307
348, much higher than I was expecting.
I scored 364, which is apparently more than the “average” Liberal Dem. And here I thought I was a moderate. Guess that officially makes me a moonbat libtard. *snort*
329/400
326/400
342
Ben says: “363, and am disappointed it was that low.”
I’m not the most liberal person here!
337
341/400
333, which is much higher than I expected when I started, although about what I expected when I finished because the majority of my answers were near the extremes. That’s because the majority of those questions were terrible.
140. Yeah, 140.
Lousy questions, lousier methodology.
J.
“That’s because the majority of those questions were terrible.”
If you don’t 100% disagree with ‘Homosexuality is unnatural and should not be accepted by society’ you have no role to play is society.
Find yourself a nice cave to live in, and leave the rest of us alone.
If you don’t 100% disagree with ‘Homosexuality is unnatural and should not be accepted by society’ you have no role to play is society.
Find yourself a nice cave to live in, and leave the rest of us alone.
There’s that warm, loving, liberal tolerance at play here, folks. If you don’t agree with them absolutely, GTFO.
This is actually an improvement for Strowbridge, who recently endorsed using conservatives as food stock.
Oh, and by the way, Strowbridge: I put a “0″ — maximum disagreement — on that question. What I think sunk my score were the ones about unions, foreign policy, and government control of the economy.
J.
350, but in a different mood, I might have answered with more 7s instead of 10s, and 3s instead of 0s. I was surprised it came out that high, though.
278/400. I think I’d fall into the progressive/libertarian category, if one exists.
I’ll take small, efficient government any day, exactly the thing Republicans failed to deliver between 2001-2009. Outrageous growth of the Fed, an interventionist “World Police” foreign policy, an inability to protect American citizens on 9/11. I’ve also got an unconventional take on funding the arts — I’d rather see money go into primary education for music and art programs rather than as grant money to individual artists. I support the Fed helping out to maintain museums, however.
Jay writes “There’s that warm, loving, liberal tolerance at play here, folks. If you don’t agree with them absolutely, GTFO.”
Tolerance of bigotry is not tolerance. Welcome to the 21st century, troglodyte.
Shorter Jaim:
“No tolerance for the intolerant!”
J.
People are welcome to their views. The rest of us are welcome to shun and mock them if they happen to be bigots or racists or what have you.
That’s why guys like you hang out at Freep, no?
J.G.Thayer: Shorter Jaim: “No tolerance for the intolerant!”
Fuck yeah!
God lord, the fact that you think what you wrote was a comeback just shows how stupid you are.
Or, conversely, how prejudice you are. Only someone who is racist / sexist / homophobic / etc. would think it is intolerant to mock / shun those who are racist / sexist / homophobic / etc.
Me: “If you don’t 100% disagree with ‘Homosexuality is unnatural and should not be accepted by society’ you have no role to play is society.
Find yourself a nice cave to live in, and leave the rest of us alone.”
Jay Tea says: “There’s that warm, loving, liberal tolerance at play here, folks. If you don’t agree with them absolutely, GTFO.”
Not quite. You can disagree with me all you want. But if you are a bigot, then you can fuck off.
And I don’t apologize for having this position. In fact, I think you are at best naive if you don’t have the same position. At best naive.
“This is actually an improvement for Strowbridge, who recently endorsed using conservatives as food stock.”
Soylent Green. It’s a movie. I was making a pop culture reference. And as I recall, I specifically said it would be a bad decision, because conservatives would make bitter food. (Get it? It’s a pun! … Okay, I’ll explain it to you. Being bitter emotionally is not the same as having a bitter taste. Get it now?)
I know there’s probably not a movie night at the Klan, but maybe you should suggest one.
Although your friends might not appreciate the subtitles in the film.
350. If Bush were still in office, I’d be expecting a visit from Homeland Security…
339/400
“Although your friends might not appreciate the subtitles in the film.”
That should be subtleties and not subtitles.
Serves me right for not paying attention to my spellchecker.
Of course I’m proud of my 88. That little quiz is a total joke. So why would anyone rave about a high score??
310 YEAH! 319 YEAH! 298 YEAH!!! Laughable……..but it made ya feel good, huh?
I’m 344 out of 400!
We are soooo proud of you Kelso75!! YEAH!
“Of course I’m proud of my 88. That little quiz is a total joke. So why would anyone rave about a high score??
310 YEAH! 319 YEAH! 298 YEAH!!! Laughable……..but it made ya feel good, huh?”
So you are proud of your score, but you are making fun of others who are proud of their scores.
Hmmm… there’s a term for that. I believe if it called hypocrisy.
I know there’s probably not a movie night at the Klan, but maybe you should suggest one.
Yeah, but seriously, how many times can you watch The Omega Man and Planet of the Apes?
Jat Tea: Shorter Jaim: “No tolerance for the intolerant!”
Translated Jay Tea: It’s okay when I’m intolerant, but not when you are.
CSS: Only someone who is racist / sexist / homophobic / etc. would think it is intolerant to mock / shun those who are racist / sexist / homophobic / etc.
Well, technically it is intolerant, in that you’re not tolerating it. But the distinction shouldn’t be whether someone is tolerating something or not, but WHAT is being tolerated. IOW, being intolerant isn’t wrong. Depends on what you’re intolerant of.
Milk really pisses me off.
CSS: “Although your friends might not appreciate the subtitles in the film.”
That should be subtleties and not subtitles.
Serves me right for not paying attention to my spellchecker.
Ha. Y’know, I wasn’t sure if that was a typo, or you were making another pun-ish attempt suggesting they would actually need subtitles, i.e., someone to explain it to them, to understand the film.
joaquin: Of course I’m proud of my 88. That little quiz is a total joke. So why would anyone rave about a high score??</i.
Little j once again demonstrating his ability to take pride in what he simultaneously scoffs at in others.
Do broken tags remain after the message?
Nope. Good to know.
304, pretty middle-of-the-road for this crowd.
Oh, I’m all for shunning and mocking, Jaim. And I dunno how many “guys like me” hang out at Freep — I don’t go there.
The message you and Strowbridge seem to be sending out (and it’s entirely consistent with things like hate speech codes, hate crimes, and the like) is that you want the government to come down not just on deeds, but words and even thoughts.
I’ll pass, thanks.
J.
Jay Tea: The message [Jaim] and Strowbridge seem to be sending out (and it’s entirely consistent with things like hate speech codes, hate crimes, and the like) is that [they] want the government to come down not just on deeds, but words and even thoughts.
WTF?
Jaim: People are welcome to their views. The rest of us are welcome to shun and mock them…
CSS: If you don’t 100% disagree with ‘Homosexuality is unnatural and should not be accepted by society’ you have no role to play is society. Find yourself a nice cave to live in…
You can disagree with me all you want. But if you are a bigot, then you can fuck off.
IOW, if I may be so bold as to paraphrase, Think/say what you want but we will shun you and tell you to go away. Takes quite a twist of logic to turn that into calling for government thought police, Jay.
I retook the quiz (got up to 153 this time), and transcribed the questions. As far as I can tell, you rate each question on a scale of 0-10 and get one point for each point you choose towards the “progressive” answer. (Some of the questions are phrased from the “non-progressive” perspective, so those I am presuming are inverted.)
Here are the questions:
1) Government spending is almost always wasteful and inefficient.
The federal government should guarantee affordable health coverage for every American.
2) Our country has gone too far in mixing politics and religion and forcing religious values on people.
3) Free trade is good for America because it creates new markets for our goods and services and lowers costs for consumers.
4) Rich people like to believe that they made it on their own, but in reality society has contributed greatly to their wealth.
5) America’s economic future requires a transformation away from oil, gas, and coal to renewable energy sources such as wind and solar.
6) There should be a stronger regulation of sex and violence in popular culture and on the internet.
7) Americans should adopt a more sustainable lifestyle by conserving energy and consuming fewer goods.
9) Government has a responsibility to provide financial support to for the poor, the sick, and the elderly.
10) Government must step in to protect the national economy when the market fails.
11) Healthy economic growth requires eliminating budget deficits, which discourage private investment and raise interest rates.
12) Military force is the most effective way to combat terrorism and make America safer.
13) We must do whatever is necessary to protect America from terrorism, even if it means restricting civil liberties or engaging in methods some might consider torture.
14) African Americans and other minority groups still lack the same opportunities as whites in this country.
15) Government programs for the poor undermine individual initiative and responsibility.
16) America should spend more to help meet the basic economic, health, and education needs of people around the world.
17) Human life begins at conception and must be protected from that point forward.
18) America’s security is best promoted by working through diplomacy, alliances, and international institutions.
19) Free market solutions are better than government at creating jobs and economic growth.
20) Government regulation of business does more harm than good.
21) A positive image of America around the world is necessary to achieve our national security goals.
22) Government policies too often serve the interests of corporations and the wealthy.
23) Immigrants today are a burden on our country because they take our jobs and abuse government benefits.
24) Religious faith should focus more on promoting tolerance, social justice, and peace in society, and less on opposing abortion or gay rights.
25) Changes in the traditional American family have harmed our society.
26) America has taken too large a role in solving the world’s problems and should focus more at home.
27) Homosexuality is unnatural and should not be accepted by society.
28) Cutting taxes for individuals and business is the key for economic growth.
29) America must play a leading role in addressing climate change by reducing our own greenhouse gas emissions and complying with international agreements on global warming.
30) Talking with rogue nations such as Iran or with state-sponsored terrorist groups is naïve and only gives them legitimacy.
31) The war in Iraq has proven that the U.S. cannot impose democracy on other nations.
32) Social Security should be reformed to allow workers to invest some of their contributions in individual accounts.
33) Cultural institutions, the arts, and public broadcasting play an important role in our society and should receive government support.
34) Labor unions play a positive role in our society.
35) The gap between rich and poor should be reduced, even if it means higher taxes for the wealthy.
36) It is unpatriotic to criticize our government leaders or our military during a time of war.
37) Limited government is always better than big government.
38) Government regulations are necessary to keep businesses in check and protect workers and consumers.
39) Government investments in education, infrastructure, and science are necessary to ensure America’s long-term economic growth.
40) The primary responsibility of corporations is to produce profits and returns for their shareholders, not to improve society.
Here are some of the worst questions;
14) African Americans and other minority groups still lack the same opportunities as whites in this country.
True enough. For example, they are often denied the right to express conservative opinions without being labeled as race traitors or the like.
16) America should spend more to help meet the basic economic, health, and education needs of people around the world.
America is already the most generous nation on earth. And we’re having our own major economic crisis. Sorry folks, but charity begins at home. We don’t need to spend MORE.
23) Immigrants today are a burden on our country because they take our jobs and abuse government benefits.
Oh, hell, no. The vast majority of immigrants are a tremendous boon to us. Unless you’re conflating illegal aliens with legal immigrants, which would tilt the scales back a bit.
24) Religious faith should focus more on promoting tolerance, social justice, and peace in society, and less on opposing abortion or gay rights.
In other words, churches should abandon their holy scriptures and instead preach the liberal social agenda. Even I, an agnostic, have issues with that. If they can’t stand up for their core beliefs and moral principles, why should they even exist?
32) Social Security should be reformed to allow workers to invest some of their contributions in individual accounts.
Oh, we can’t let people take responsibility for themselves! That MUSTN’T ever happen!
35) The gap between rich and poor should be reduced, even if it means higher taxes for the wealthy.
Huh? Unless you can prove that the rich got that way by breaking the law, why not let people succeed as much as they can? Why punish the prosperous for the simple sin of prospering?
37) Limited government is always better than big government.
What kind of idiot wants UNLIMITED government?
40) The primary responsibility of corporations is to produce profits and returns to shareholders, not to improve society.
Last time I heard, that was pretty much the definiton of a corporation. The “improve society” role falls to non-profit organizations, which in return are granted tax exemptions.
Like I said, bad questions.
J.
Jay Tea, you’re mostly right. The questions are a little lame in general, and some are just flat-out bad. But it’s a little internet quiz – nothing to get terribly worked up over.
As for Question 24: What do you have against tolerance, social justice, and peace? Some might say that the Bible, specifically the New Testament, talks about these ideals (as do many other religions). Of course, the Bible is very often self-contradictory, and it’s difficult to determine what the fuck it stands for on many issues. But yes, you know… I think that the Church would be more respectable if it focused on the issues of tolerance and social justice and the like, more than worrying about whether two men are having consensual sex.
As for Question 40: I actually utilized the most-conservative position for my answer on this. Bad question. The main responsibilities of a corporation is in profits and keeping shareholders happy. Incidentally, I think that this is a great reason to for them to be strictly regulated by the government.
For example, they are often denied the right to express conservative opinions without being labeled as race traitors or the like.
When black cons quit pissing on black America, we’ll quit bitching them out.
Unless you’re conflating illegal aliens with legal immigrants
Which is essentially what fringe groups like the Minutemen believe.
America is already the most generous nation on earth.
I’m not wild about unrestrained foreign aid spending, but some of the best changes have come about when we help out the less fortunate, econ. crisis or not.
Oh, we can’t let people take responsibility for themselves! That MUSTN’T ever happen!
Yes, we should have totally privatized social security! As the last few months have shown us, the stock market only goes UP.
Unless you can prove that the rich got that way by breaking the law, why not let people succeed as much as they can?
I thought only farmers had that much straw. Nothing wrong with succeeding. Nothing wrong with everyone having the opportunity to succeed.
What kind of idiot wants UNLIMITED government?
Its funny you quote the actual question then make a straw man argument anyways. Cons say the government should be a teeny tiny thing of almost no use. Liberals and most Americans think there are some things so big we need the government to do them. Like watching over the safety of the food supply or malfeasance in business. For instance.
The “improve society” role falls to non-profit organizations, which in return are granted tax exemptions.
Yes, because trusting corporations to not fuck up the planet or people’s lives based on their inherit altruism has worked great so far. Left unrestrained business will almost always look out for itself at the expense of our wider society. We have the government as the watchdog of that tendency and everyone gets to benefit.
Jay writes: “The message you and Strowbridge seem to be sending out (and it’s entirely consistent with things like hate speech codes, hate crimes, and the like) is that you want the government to come down not just on deeds, but words and even thoughts.”
Learn to read, dickhead. Unlike the Bush II regime, I’m a firm believer in the Constitution. People have a right to say what they want, and others have a right to find them bigoted assholes like you and your Freeper brethren.
But it’s cute how you try and take what I said and spin it into the 180 degree opposite of what I said. I’d expect no less from you, you chickenhawk recipient of socialzed, life-saving medical care.
J.G.Thayer: “The message you and Strowbridge seem to be sending out (and it’s entirely consistent with things like hate speech codes, hate crimes, and the like) is that you want the government to come down not just on deeds, but words and even thoughts.”
Who said anything about the government?
I think you are projecting, Mr. Thayer.
J.G.Thayer: “I retook the quiz (got up to 153 this time), and transcribed the questions.”
… We don’t actually care what you think that much.
I apologize if I gave you that impression.
J.G.Thayer: “The message you and Strowbridge seem to be sending out (and it’s entirely consistent with things like hate speech codes, hate crimes, and the like) is that you want the government to come down not just on deeds, but words and even thoughts.”
Who said anything about the government?
To emphasize, I said, “Find yourself a nice cave to live in, and leave the rest of us alone.”
Nothing to do with being forced to do anything. It was purely a request.
And by the way, First Degree Murder is a thought crime.
Oh, and I don’t believe I missed this one the first time around:
31) The war in Iraq has proven that the U.S. cannot impose democracy on other nations.
Someone help me out — how did Germany and Japan get their current forms of government?
J.
“Someone help me out — how did Germany and Japan get their current forms of government?”
Two points…
1.) World War II wasn’t the United States.
2.) Germany was a Democracy before.
And as a bonus…
3.) The Emperor of Japan agreed to move his nation to democracy. Had he been killed, I don’t think that would have gone as smoothly.
I put that one as a 5. It shows if you go in not knowing anything about the society you are dealing with does hamper one’s goals. But it doesn’t mean it is impossible everywhere.
Not bad, Strowbridge. But a few corrections to your corrections:
1) The Iraq invasion wasn’t just the United States.
2) Germany wasn’t a democracy when the war started.
And for a bonus…
3) Emperor Hirohito was a figurehead (and, largely, a hostage) before and during the war. He was a figurehead (but not a hostage) after it.
Typically, when you move away from just random variations of “fuck,” “racist,” and the like, you blow it.
Stick to your strengths, Strowbridge.
J.
Jay Tea: 1) The Iraq invasion wasn’t just the United States.
While four countries were involved in the initial invasion, nearly 85% of the troops involved were provided by the US (UK: 15%, Australia and Poland combined provided: <1%). So while it wasn’t only the US involved, the invasion was predominantly promoted, lead and done by the US. To suggest otherwise is ignoring reality to split semantic hairs.
read it and weep 376/400.
37) Limited government is always better than big government.
What kind of idiot wants UNLIMITED government?
I didn’t like that one, either. Efficient government is better than either large or big government.
THAT should be the goal.
Sean, there are substantial differences between 1939/1941 and today. Today, any military action that involves the US means, instantly, that we are the 800-lb. gorilla. Our military power means that we pretty much dwarf any ally.
Their support might be insignificant tactically, but means a tremendous amount diplomatically and symbolically. For example, Poland spent about 50 years as an enslaved state, with the added humiliation of having that status confirmed under the name “Warsaw Pact.” Now they’re on our side, helping us out, putting their troops’ lives on the line beside ours.
Could we go it without them? Absolutely.
Should we? Absolutely not.
And Duros, government is by its very nature inefficient — and sometimes that is a good thing. I worry about a government that is too efficient. I can think of some very bad governments that were terrifyingly efficient.
J.
Jay, finding it a bit hard to keep up. First your point is the Iraq invasion wasn’t just the United States. Then it’s “we are the 800-lb. gorilla. Our military power means that we pretty much dwarf any ally.” Pick a side.
Diplomatically Poland providing 6/100ths of a percent of the troops might mean something minuscule symbolically. But it has nothing to do with the point actually brought up: whether the US can impose democracy.
J.G.Thayer: “1) The Iraq invasion wasn’t just the United States.”
As Sean has pointed out, Iraq as practically just the U.S. Only the U.K. had any other serious troops strength, while most of the world offered no real help, or in fact opposed in invasion from the start. If you are defeated in a war with all of your neighbours, it is more likely that they will have a larger say in how the government is formed.
In Iraq, Iran had almost as large of a say as the U.S. had.
“2) Germany wasn’t a democracy when the war started.”
Yes, but it is easier to move back to a democracy to create one from scratch.
“3) Emperor Hirohito was a figurehead…”
He was practically worshiped like a god. He said ‘Let’s be a democracy!’ and the people would follow. That’s a huge advantage.