Comments on: Watchmen: Downfall http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: soullite http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140353 soullite Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:52:42 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140353 Michael, I wouldn't argue FOR the giant squid, although it does make a lot of sense. An extra-dimensional alien threat gives you an enemy. If Dr. Manhattan really WERE the enemy, Humanity would have no hope. The man's all but a god. He makes Superman look underpowered and lame. An extra-dimensional being? there might be hope there. Against Dr. Manhattan, it's hard to believe that humanity would do anything but shit it's pants and riot. My main problem with it, though, is that it essentially uses the 'frame Dr. Manhattan' plotpoint twice. Once to get him off the earth, and again for the catastrophe at the end. That's just sloppy story-telling. They could have just used a more movie-friendly looking alien. Michael, I wouldn’t argue FOR the giant squid, although it does make a lot of sense. An extra-dimensional alien threat gives you an enemy. If Dr. Manhattan really WERE the enemy, Humanity would have no hope. The man’s all but a god. He makes Superman look underpowered and lame. An extra-dimensional being? there might be hope there. Against Dr. Manhattan, it’s hard to believe that humanity would do anything but shit it’s pants and riot.

My main problem with it, though, is that it essentially uses the ‘frame Dr. Manhattan’ plotpoint twice. Once to get him off the earth, and again for the catastrophe at the end. That’s just sloppy story-telling. They could have just used a more movie-friendly looking alien.

]]> By: Duski Hughes http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140336 Duski Hughes Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:48:53 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140336 As funny as that was, it will never defeat 'Hillary's Downfall'. As funny as that was, it will never defeat ‘Hillary’s Downfall’.

]]> By: ArC http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140322 ArC Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:03:22 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140322 <blockquote>What part of "there are spoilers" wasn't clear enough?</blockquote> The part where <B>the spoilers were about THE MOVIE!</b> Did you not read what you just wrote? Where you said "if you haven't <b>read</b> Watchmen?" Who do you know who "reads" a movie?

What part of “there are spoilers” wasn’t clear enough?

The part where the spoilers were about THE MOVIE! Did you not read what you just wrote? Where you said “if you haven’t read Watchmen?” Who do you know who “reads” a movie?

]]> By: Dave http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140320 Dave Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:56:39 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140320 The difference is between between 'read' and 'seen'. I read the comics. I haven't seen the movie. The video you posted gave no indication that it would reveal the ending of the FILM, which is different from the BOOK. I did not know there was a different ending to the film up until I watched this. I've avoided all reviews, and stopped watching the video once I hit the first spoiler. The difference is between between ‘read’ and ‘seen’. I read the comics. I haven’t seen the movie. The video you posted gave no indication that it would reveal the ending of the FILM, which is different from the BOOK. I did not know there was a different ending to the film up until I watched this. I’ve avoided all reviews, and stopped watching the video once I hit the first spoiler.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140304 Oliver Willis Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:49:41 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140304 What part of "there are spoilers" wasn't clear enough? What part of “there are spoilers” wasn’t clear enough?

]]> By: dr4lom http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140289 dr4lom Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:32:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140289 Hilarious... Salon has an article today interviewing Alan Moore. It's a good read. <a href="http://www.salon.com/books/int/2009/03/05/alan_moore_q_a/index.html" rel="nofollow"> Alan Moore Interview</a> I also just want to say I agree with Hitler Never thought I'd say that. Hilarious… Salon has an article today interviewing Alan Moore. It’s a good read.
Alan Moore Interview

I also just want to say I agree with Hitler

Never thought I’d say that.

]]> By: Sean D, Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140280 Sean D, Martin Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140280 ArC: <i>Way to spoil the _movie_ ending</i> In a posting that starts with "If you haven’t read Watchmen there are spoilers" I think it's reasonable to expect there may also be some in the comments. ArC: Way to spoil the _movie_ ending

In a posting that starts with “If you haven’t read Watchmen there are spoilers” I think it’s reasonable to expect there may also be some in the comments.

]]> By: Dave http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140269 Dave Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:17:58 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140269 Yeah, what ArC says. You should have indicated that there are MOVIE spoilers. I see you on the street, I'm giving you a cockpunching, and I'm gonna do it while wearing a Rorschach mask. Yeah, what ArC says. You should have indicated that there are MOVIE spoilers. I see you on the street, I’m giving you a cockpunching, and I’m gonna do it while wearing a Rorschach mask.

]]> By: arbitrista http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140267 arbitrista Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:10:09 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140267 Thanks Oliver. You made me spew coffee all over my laptop and now I have to clean it up. Jerk. Thanks Oliver. You made me spew coffee all over my laptop and now I have to clean it up. Jerk.

]]> By: soullites http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140260 soullites Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:18:07 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140260 I could really see making a more... photogenic fake alien. But framing Dr. Manhattan? WTF? Wouldn't that basically mean they'd have to use the same plot point twice? I could really see making a more… photogenic fake alien. But framing Dr. Manhattan? WTF?

Wouldn’t that basically mean they’d have to use the same plot point twice?

]]> By: ArC http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140243 ArC Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:58:49 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140243 Way to spoil the _movie_ ending without remotely hinting that's what you were doing. Even the YT video itself, on the YT page, at least says what it's about. Way to spoil the _movie_ ending without remotely hinting that’s what you were doing. Even the YT video itself, on the YT page, at least says what it’s about.

]]> By: Michael Over Here http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140242 Michael Over Here Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:56:05 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140242 I've read the comic book, although I wouldn't count myself a fan boy. I just got back from the movie and thought the framing Dr. Manhattan thing was a much better choice than some Deus Ex Machina squid. Does anyone have an argument why the squid was better besides that it was in the graphic novel? I’ve read the comic book, although I wouldn’t count myself a fan boy. I just got back from the movie and thought the framing Dr. Manhattan thing was a much better choice than some Deus Ex Machina squid. Does anyone have an argument why the squid was better besides that it was in the graphic novel?

]]> By: D.R.Scott http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140211 D.R.Scott Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:02:58 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140211 Raymond Chandler was once asked by a friend, "Doesn't it make you feel bad when Hollywood does such a lousy job of adapting your novels?" "No," Chandler replied, pointing to the bookshelves in the room. "All of my books are out there. Anybody that wants to see what I really meant to say can read them. I don't care how bad the movies are because they have nothing to do with what I wrote." After the clumsy failures of <i>From Hell</i>, <i>V for Vendetta</i> and <i>The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen</i>, Hollywood just can't figure Moore out. It lobotomizes the work of one of the most intelligent and literate writers in the history of comics. So why should <i>Watchmen</i> be any different? In spite of myself, I'm going to see the movie, but thank God the brilliant, Hugo-winning graphic novel will be waiting for me when I get home. After all, the movie's got nothing to do with what Moore wrote. Raymond Chandler was once asked by a friend, “Doesn’t it make you feel bad when Hollywood does such a lousy job of adapting your novels?”

“No,” Chandler replied, pointing to the bookshelves in the room. “All of my books are out there. Anybody that wants to see what I really meant to say can read them. I don’t care how bad the movies are because they have nothing to do with what I wrote.”

After the clumsy failures of From Hell, V for Vendetta and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Hollywood just can’t figure Moore out. It lobotomizes the work of one of the most intelligent and literate writers in the history of comics.

So why should Watchmen be any different? In spite of myself, I’m going to see the movie, but thank God the brilliant, Hugo-winning graphic novel will be waiting for me when I get home. After all, the movie’s got nothing to do with what Moore wrote.

]]> By: Scott Ricketts http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/04/watchmen-downfall/#comment-140183 Scott Ricketts Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:06:33 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13267#comment-140183 This was funnier when it was about the Cowboys losing. This was funnier when it was about the Cowboys losing.

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