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	<title>Comments on: President Obama Committed to Employee Free Choice</title>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/03/president-obama-committed-to-employee-free-choice/#comment-140163</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me: &quot;The number of times that Unions have been accused of using strong arm tactics over the past decade can be counted on your figures.&quot;

Jay Caruso: &quot;Source?&quot;

Saw it on TV, so I can&#039;t give you a link. However, looking up Walmart&#039;s record and compare it to the total number of unions that were investigated for strong arm tactics. One company vs. every single union in the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me: &#8220;The number of times that Unions have been accused of using strong arm tactics over the past decade can be counted on your figures.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jay Caruso: &#8220;Source?&#8221;</p>
<p>Saw it on TV, so I can&#8217;t give you a link. However, looking up Walmart&#8217;s record and compare it to the total number of unions that were investigated for strong arm tactics. One company vs. every single union in the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/03/president-obama-committed-to-employee-free-choice/#comment-140007</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Southern Strategy is right -- the Employee No Choice Act doesn&#039;t ban secret ballots. It just makes them optional. The union can ask for one, or it can just &quot;persuade&quot; enough employees to sign away their rights to one. 

And it gets even better:

www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/kausfiles/archive/2009/02/28/card-check-not-as-bad-as-thought-worse.aspx

Nothing like that pesky democracy thing to keep workers from doing what they want, instead of what is &quot;best&quot; for them, as determined by their betters...

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Southern Strategy is right &#8212; the Employee No Choice Act doesn&#8217;t ban secret ballots. It just makes them optional. The union can ask for one, or it can just &#8220;persuade&#8221; enough employees to sign away their rights to one. </p>
<p>And it gets even better:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/kausfiles/archive/2009/02/28/card-check-not-as-bad-as-thought-worse.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/kausfiles/archive/2009/02/28/card-check-not-as-bad-as-thought-worse.aspx</a></p>
<p>Nothing like that pesky democracy thing to keep workers from doing what they want, instead of what is &#8220;best&#8221; for them, as determined by their betters&#8230;</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The number of times that Unions have been accused of using strong arm tactics over the past decade can be counted on your figures.&lt;/i&gt;

Source?

&lt;i&gt;Look at the fucking stats… Under the system you support, businesses are the one intimidating workers&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s a &#039;stat&#039;? Any site or information to back up this &#039;stat&#039;?

You spout so much, but never back it up. Let&#039;s see some hard data or I will just use a CS tactic and call you a fucking stupid liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The number of times that Unions have been accused of using strong arm tactics over the past decade can be counted on your figures.</i></p>
<p>Source?</p>
<p><i>Look at the fucking stats… Under the system you support, businesses are the one intimidating workers</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a &#8217;stat&#8217;? Any site or information to back up this &#8217;stat&#8217;?</p>
<p>You spout so much, but never back it up. Let&#8217;s see some hard data or I will just use a CS tactic and call you a fucking stupid liar.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/03/president-obama-committed-to-employee-free-choice/#comment-139975</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J.G.Thayer: &quot;The secret ballot protects workers from intimidation from both sides.&quot;

Are you allergic to reality? Look at the fucking stats... Under the system you support, businesses are the one intimidating workers, not the unions. Secret ballots are not protection from intimidation from businesses, because you have to organize the vote. The organizers have to speak out. The vote is known about in advance. Intimidation does take place. 

You just choose to ignore it, because you don&#039;t like the people being oppressed. 

&quot;It’s no wonder &#039;Southern Strategy&#039; supports No Private Votes For Workers act.&quot;

Then again, that&#039;s why you are not concerned about the Southern Strategy, because you don&#039;t like the people being oppressed. Blacks, Hispanics, Gays... You don&#039;t care if they are being oppressed, because you are a bigot. 

And one final note that you will surely ignore... The EFCA doesn&#039;t ban secret votes. But of course you didn&#039;t know that. In the past I would have assumed you were lying about that point, but now I know better. Now I know that you are genuinely clueless about the world. Facts, knowledge, curiosity are your enemy. You know only what you are told in the form of right-wing talking points. 

It&#039;s fucking pathetic, but it is who you are. And if you got this far in life, you will never change. 

And when you die, you will make really shitty tasting Soylent Green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.G.Thayer: &#8220;The secret ballot protects workers from intimidation from both sides.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you allergic to reality? Look at the fucking stats&#8230; Under the system you support, businesses are the one intimidating workers, not the unions. Secret ballots are not protection from intimidation from businesses, because you have to organize the vote. The organizers have to speak out. The vote is known about in advance. Intimidation does take place. </p>
<p>You just choose to ignore it, because you don&#8217;t like the people being oppressed. </p>
<p>&#8220;It’s no wonder &#8216;Southern Strategy&#8217; supports No Private Votes For Workers act.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then again, that&#8217;s why you are not concerned about the Southern Strategy, because you don&#8217;t like the people being oppressed. Blacks, Hispanics, Gays&#8230; You don&#8217;t care if they are being oppressed, because you are a bigot. </p>
<p>And one final note that you will surely ignore&#8230; The EFCA doesn&#8217;t ban secret votes. But of course you didn&#8217;t know that. In the past I would have assumed you were lying about that point, but now I know better. Now I know that you are genuinely clueless about the world. Facts, knowledge, curiosity are your enemy. You know only what you are told in the form of right-wing talking points. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s fucking pathetic, but it is who you are. And if you got this far in life, you will never change. </p>
<p>And when you die, you will make really shitty tasting Soylent Green.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/03/president-obama-committed-to-employee-free-choice/#comment-139960</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Orwell would be proud of this measure. One has to admire the sheer balls of the bill&#039;s backers -- to refer to a plan to strip workers of the right to cast a secret ballot on whether or not to unionize the &quot;Employee Free Choice Act&quot; redefines chutzpah. 

The secret ballot protects workers from intimidation from both sides. But notice how the unions have the advantage here -- if they can get a majority of workers to sign the cards, they&#039;re in, but employers can&#039;t get a majority of workers to sign cards saying they don&#039;t want unions.

It&#039;s no wonder &quot;Southern Strategy&quot; supports No Private Votes For Workers act. 

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Orwell would be proud of this measure. One has to admire the sheer balls of the bill&#8217;s backers &#8212; to refer to a plan to strip workers of the right to cast a secret ballot on whether or not to unionize the &#8220;Employee Free Choice Act&#8221; redefines chutzpah. </p>
<p>The secret ballot protects workers from intimidation from both sides. But notice how the unions have the advantage here &#8212; if they can get a majority of workers to sign the cards, they&#8217;re in, but employers can&#8217;t get a majority of workers to sign cards saying they don&#8217;t want unions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder &#8220;Southern Strategy&#8221; supports No Private Votes For Workers act. </p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number of times that Unions have been accused of using strong arm tactics over the past decade can be counted on your figures. The number of complaints of Union-busting against corporations number in the thousands. 

Gee, I wonder who the workers need protection from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of times that Unions have been accused of using strong arm tactics over the past decade can be counted on your figures. The number of complaints of Union-busting against corporations number in the thousands. </p>
<p>Gee, I wonder who the workers need protection from?</p>
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