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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-140253</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis: &quot;And Obama owes his presidency to Limbaugh. This guy is right; without him, Hillary would’ve won going away.&quot;

You are wrong here. 

&quot;Not sure that is a good thing looking back. Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.&quot;

Obama is not destroying the stock market. It was in free-fall before he took over. It was in free-fall, because it was overvalued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis: &#8220;And Obama owes his presidency to Limbaugh. This guy is right; without him, Hillary would’ve won going away.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are wrong here. </p>
<p>&#8220;Not sure that is a good thing looking back. Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama is not destroying the stock market. It was in free-fall before he took over. It was in free-fall, because it was overvalued.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-140073</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.&lt;/i&gt;

Here&#039;s Dennis from the alternate universe where Hillary won the primary:

&lt;i&gt;Obama would not have destroyed the stock market like Hillary is doing.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.</i></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Dennis from the alternate universe where Hillary won the primary:</p>
<p><i>Obama would not have destroyed the stock market like Hillary is doing.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-140049</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.&lt;/i&gt;

You have absolutely nothing to base this on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.</i></p>
<p>You have absolutely nothing to base this on.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139893</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dennis, please tell me you don’t believe that nonsense about Operation Chaos. Please. Only an idiot would do that.&lt;/i&gt; --OW

No, I don&#039;t think what Rush did in the Dem. primary helped or hurt either one materially, but I think Daou has a point in this article that Limbaugh&#039;s overall effect on the Clinton&#039;s over a period of many years may very well have had enough of a negative impact that it may have been the difference between her winning and losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dennis, please tell me you don’t believe that nonsense about Operation Chaos. Please. Only an idiot would do that.</i> &#8211;OW</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t think what Rush did in the Dem. primary helped or hurt either one materially, but I think Daou has a point in this article that Limbaugh&#8217;s overall effect on the Clinton&#8217;s over a period of many years may very well have had enough of a negative impact that it may have been the difference between her winning and losing.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139879</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You wouldn’t talk about him so otherwise.&lt;/i&gt;

So one is afraid of anything they talk about? So if you talk about liberals in any context what-so-ever, you&#039;re afraid of them? Makes sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You wouldn’t talk about him so otherwise.</i></p>
<p>So one is afraid of anything they talk about? So if you talk about liberals in any context what-so-ever, you&#8217;re afraid of them? Makes sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpymann</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139874</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpymann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if anyone threatened Rush with being fired if he did not be nice to Steel?

http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/gop-tells-michael-steele-shut-about-lim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if anyone threatened Rush with being fired if he did not be nice to Steel?</p>
<p><a href="http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/gop-tells-michael-steele-shut-about-lim" rel="nofollow">http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/gop-tells-michael-steele-shut-about-lim</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139869</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, please tell me you don&#039;t believe that nonsense about Operation Chaos. Please. Only an idiot would do that. I like Peter, but I happen to disagree with him on this one (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/08/peter-daou-justifies-hillary-clinton-trashing-the-democratic-party/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;as I did&lt;/a&gt; when he worked for Sen. Clinton).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, please tell me you don&#8217;t believe that nonsense about Operation Chaos. Please. Only an idiot would do that. I like Peter, but I happen to disagree with him on this one (<a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/03/08/peter-daou-justifies-hillary-clinton-trashing-the-democratic-party/" rel="nofollow">as I did</a> when he worked for Sen. Clinton).</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hey racist asshole endorser Dennis&lt;/i&gt;... Aqualung ed

Sorry, Jethro, doesn&#039;t faze me one bit.  You guys have at different times called the current Vice President a racist asshole and the current Secretary of State the same thing, and you have no problem with either one of them nor their important positions.  So it must just be a common name you throw around as a term of endearment when you&#039;re not in an especially good mood.  That or you just call everybody that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hey racist asshole endorser Dennis</i>&#8230; Aqualung ed</p>
<p>Sorry, Jethro, doesn&#8217;t faze me one bit.  You guys have at different times called the current Vice President a racist asshole and the current Secretary of State the same thing, and you have no problem with either one of them nor their important positions.  So it must just be a common name you throw around as a term of endearment when you&#8217;re not in an especially good mood.  That or you just call everybody that.</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpymann</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139864</link>
		<dc:creator>Grumpymann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis, 

Once again can you NOT tell the difference between disgust and fear? Or in all honesty are you calling me a liar when I say I am not afraid of Rush I hate him? (In that case I complement you on your ability to know more about me than I know of myself.)

I can tell your not THAT &quot;stoopid&quot; you seem to be able to use a keyboard. 

Or is it just that you are using the typical con tacit of strawmanning? I would think you a better person than that.


Peace Be With you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, </p>
<p>Once again can you NOT tell the difference between disgust and fear? Or in all honesty are you calling me a liar when I say I am not afraid of Rush I hate him? (In that case I complement you on your ability to know more about me than I know of myself.)</p>
<p>I can tell your not THAT &#8220;stoopid&#8221; you seem to be able to use a keyboard. </p>
<p>Or is it just that you are using the typical con tacit of strawmanning? I would think you a better person than that.</p>
<p>Peace Be With you</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139856</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And as we all know, the only way to break a deflationary spiral is to fire up the printing presses and increase the money supply via unprecedented government spending!&lt;/em&gt;

Well, maybe not the &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; way. The Fed could reduce interest rates into negative territory I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And as we all know, the only way to break a deflationary spiral is to fire up the printing presses and increase the money supply via unprecedented government spending!</em></p>
<p>Well, maybe not the <em>only</em> way. The Fed could reduce interest rates into negative territory I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139855</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still in denial about the whole point of this thread, Dennis? 

Rush has the Republican leadership on a leash. They cross him at their peril. Mr. Steele is only the latest to demonstrate this fact.

Mr. Daou is asking the wrong question. The right question is: Why are Republican leaders so afraid of this antisocial crackpot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still in denial about the whole point of this thread, Dennis? </p>
<p>Rush has the Republican leadership on a leash. They cross him at their peril. Mr. Steele is only the latest to demonstrate this fact.</p>
<p>Mr. Daou is asking the wrong question. The right question is: Why are Republican leaders so afraid of this antisocial crackpot?</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.&lt;/i&gt;

Hey racist asshole endorser Dennis, you wanna wager whether or not the stock market ends up down more at the end of the Obama Era than it did over the course of George Bush, Jr.&#039;s reign? 

Also, what would Hillary have done so differently with respect to affecting the stock market, a month and a half into her theoretical presidency? 

In any event, keep on keepin&#039; on defending racist asshole Rush Limbaugh. It suits you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.</i></p>
<p>Hey racist asshole endorser Dennis, you wanna wager whether or not the stock market ends up down more at the end of the Obama Era than it did over the course of George Bush, Jr.&#8217;s reign? </p>
<p>Also, what would Hillary have done so differently with respect to affecting the stock market, a month and a half into her theoretical presidency? </p>
<p>In any event, keep on keepin&#8217; on defending racist asshole Rush Limbaugh. It suits you.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139853</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Parthy

I suppose one could make Farris&#039; point that government spending (especially spending borrowed money) = firing up the printing presses. If the government borrows money from China and pumps it into the U.S. economy, seems to me that increases the money supply.

Of course, to be consistent, one would have to say the same about consumer  credit spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Parthy</p>
<p>I suppose one could make Farris&#8217; point that government spending (especially spending borrowed money) = firing up the printing presses. If the government borrows money from China and pumps it into the U.S. economy, seems to me that increases the money supply.</p>
<p>Of course, to be consistent, one would have to say the same about consumer  credit spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Occasionally a liberal asks a good question--
--Peter Daou, blogging today in The Zsa Zsa Post


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/why-on-earth-are-democrat_b_171321.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why on Earth Are Democrats Legitimizing and Empowering Rush Limbaugh?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;It&#039;s easy to feel like the old era is gone, the old demons slain, that we WON, that nobody&#039;s afraid of the once-vaunted Republican attack machine. But Barack Obama&#039;s unquestioned discipline, steadfastness and intelligence notwithstanding, he wouldn&#039;t be president without a tsunami of Hillary-hatred expertly surfed by his campaign, mishandled by hers, a tsunami generated over the years precisely by people like Rush Limbaugh.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

He&#039;s agreeing, it is easy for you guys to feel unafraid, whe in reality you still are.  You wouldn&#039;t talk about him so otherwise.  And Obama owes his presidency to Limbaugh. This guy is right; without him, Hillary would&#039;ve won going away.  Not sure that is a good thing looking back.  Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occasionally a liberal asks a good question&#8211;<br />
&#8211;Peter Daou, blogging today in The Zsa Zsa Post</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-daou/why-on-earth-are-democrat_b_171321.html" rel="nofollow">Why on Earth Are Democrats Legitimizing and Empowering Rush Limbaugh?</a></p>
<p><i>It&#8217;s easy to feel like the old era is gone, the old demons slain, that we WON, that nobody&#8217;s afraid of the once-vaunted Republican attack machine. But Barack Obama&#8217;s unquestioned discipline, steadfastness and intelligence notwithstanding, he wouldn&#8217;t be president without a tsunami of Hillary-hatred expertly surfed by his campaign, mishandled by hers, a tsunami generated over the years precisely by people like Rush Limbaugh.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>He&#8217;s agreeing, it is easy for you guys to feel unafraid, whe in reality you still are.  You wouldn&#8217;t talk about him so otherwise.  And Obama owes his presidency to Limbaugh. This guy is right; without him, Hillary would&#8217;ve won going away.  Not sure that is a good thing looking back.  Hillary would not have destroyed the stock market like Obama is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139849</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You know, maybe there are actual Republicans that disagree with Obama’s economic policies (instead of the pretend Republican strawmen living in your head who “want to do nothing” about the economy.)&lt;/em&gt;

Well, the &quot;strawmen&quot; seem to be lumbering around in Congress. Could be my imagination, but they&#039;re in my teevee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You know, maybe there are actual Republicans that disagree with Obama’s economic policies (instead of the pretend Republican strawmen living in your head who “want to do nothing” about the economy.)</em></p>
<p>Well, the &#8220;strawmen&#8221; seem to be lumbering around in Congress. Could be my imagination, but they&#8217;re in my teevee.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what, Farris, you&#039;re absolutely, right. If they had instead used MY 3 point stimulus plan, we could get the money while spending almost none ourselves.

1. Legalize gay marriage. Wedding ceremonies are very expensive, and gays on average have more money than heterosexuals. This means we can fuel millions of dollars to the wedding industry by letting gays married.

2. Legalize pot. By legalizing it, not only do we free up law enforcement to enforce laws that matter, we also can tax the pot, and tax the income of those that sell it. Upper-middle class college students with more money than they know what to do with? We can use this.

3. Most controversial one, but the one that will generate the most money. We give everyone that still supports Bush (25% of 300 mil = 75 mil), and give them a free &quot;cruise&quot;. When the boats get to international waters, we sell them as slave labor to various 3rd world countries. At 1k a pop, that&#039;s $75 billion right there.

I&#039;m serious about the first 2, though. They would both stimulate the economy at no cost to the government or taxpayers what-so-ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what, Farris, you&#8217;re absolutely, right. If they had instead used MY 3 point stimulus plan, we could get the money while spending almost none ourselves.</p>
<p>1. Legalize gay marriage. Wedding ceremonies are very expensive, and gays on average have more money than heterosexuals. This means we can fuel millions of dollars to the wedding industry by letting gays married.</p>
<p>2. Legalize pot. By legalizing it, not only do we free up law enforcement to enforce laws that matter, we also can tax the pot, and tax the income of those that sell it. Upper-middle class college students with more money than they know what to do with? We can use this.</p>
<p>3. Most controversial one, but the one that will generate the most money. We give everyone that still supports Bush (25% of 300 mil = 75 mil), and give them a free &#8220;cruise&#8221;. When the boats get to international waters, we sell them as slave labor to various 3rd world countries. At 1k a pop, that&#8217;s $75 billion right there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m serious about the first 2, though. They would both stimulate the economy at no cost to the government or taxpayers what-so-ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;fire up the printing presses and increase the money supply&lt;/i&gt;

So is this just another saltmarsh mouse con trope, or is this actually happening? As I understand it, we&#039;re selling bonds to foreigners to get the cash, not printing a pile of worthless fiat money. The money supply contracts and expands even in normal times; that&#039;s not really news. 

Somebody want to throw up a link to some evidence of &#039;firing up the printing presses?&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>fire up the printing presses and increase the money supply</i></p>
<p>So is this just another saltmarsh mouse con trope, or is this actually happening? As I understand it, we&#8217;re selling bonds to foreigners to get the cash, not printing a pile of worthless fiat money. The money supply contracts and expands even in normal times; that&#8217;s not really news. </p>
<p>Somebody want to throw up a link to some evidence of &#8216;firing up the printing presses?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Jack J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOPS! I mean&#039;t Rush&#039;s butt-buddy DENNIS (you see, I can&#039;t even tell them apart now).

BTW...that goes for his clones here too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOPS! I mean&#8217;t Rush&#8217;s butt-buddy DENNIS (you see, I can&#8217;t even tell them apart now).</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;that goes for his clones here too.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;then he wants to tax the shit out of us.&lt;/i&gt;

modest tax increases still MUCH more conservative than most (if not all) of the rest of the developed world = taxing the shit out of us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>then he wants to tax the shit out of us.</i></p>
<p>modest tax increases still MUCH more conservative than most (if not all) of the rest of the developed world = taxing the shit out of us?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack J.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/03/02/steele-apologizes-to-rush/#comment-139836</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea why you guys argue with Rush&#039;s butt-buddy Limbaugh. Don&#039;t you realize that travelling troll isn&#039;t ere to make sense?

He&#039;s here to stroke himself so stop giving him the KY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea why you guys argue with Rush&#8217;s butt-buddy Limbaugh. Don&#8217;t you realize that travelling troll isn&#8217;t ere to make sense?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s here to stroke himself so stop giving him the KY!</p>
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