J.

Whitewater had nothing to do with that.

And kiddo, repeating the latest DU catchphrases makes you look like a twit. I could toss around alternatives — Democraps, B. Hussein Obama, Nancy Peelosi (that’s a reference to her apparent fondness for plastic surgery) — but it just ain’t worth it.

Which, upon further consideration, also describes you, Smiley.

J.

Grow up a little, punk. Come back when you’re shaving more than once every two weeks or so.

J.

Bwhahahahahahahaha! Such intellectually stimulating and challenging (not to mention completely inaccurate) comments once again from the local expert in digging up to get his foot even further up his mouth! Besides not even paying attention to anything said and still trying to frame the Great Republican’t Clenis Hunt as being about the technicality your Republican’t masters spent $70 million (quite a bit more than was spent on the 9-11 clusterCheney, by the way. Thanks for ignoring that tons of trillions of lost dollars from the Not-Quite-So-Dry-Drunk you guys put in the Oval office and all that money lost by Republican’t assholishness along the way, too! The ghosts of New Orleans salute you!) and a couple of years of governmental investigative services on, you still lie about Obama’s stimulus package being larger than the sum of those oh so many lost dollars under the many fiscal shenanigans of the Republican’t junta of the new millennium.

Hypocrisy, blatant misrepresentation of the facts, and childish churlish attempts to deflect the discussion. You’ve got your Limbaugh Leader Manual down cold, Jay! Thanks for showing everyone here how a dissembling Republican’t still tries the same old tactics, even today, and still thinks they get to frame the debate even though they’ve been marginalized. Good job! I hope Scaife pays you guys well…

I was attempting to match you for your sheer hissy-fitability. I should have known that your lengthy experience as a foul-mouthed, temper-tantrum-throwing, blithering idiot would trump any attempts I might make to match it.

However, I would point out that I don’t recall anyone else calling you “Stroke” around here. Smiley’s imprecations are hardly original — he must have picked them up at DU or something, and like a child with a new toy (a remarkably fit simile), he uses them whenever he can.

J.

This coming from the man who called me Stroke.

Your hypocrisy know no bounds.

Neither does your stupidity.

Well, for one, Clinton wasn’t impeached over a blowjob. He was impeached for lying under oath during a civil matter where his sexual relationships with underlings, a very germane point in Paula Jones’ lawsuit. His lie was considerably more blatant than the one Scooter Libby was convicted over, and far more directly related to the trial.

The Enron investigations would have fallen under the purview of Attorney General Janet Reno.

“…the longest streak of borrowing from our grandchildren’s grandchildren in the history of civilization.”

Which has been thoroughly dwarfed by the “stimulus” bill.

Grow up a little, punk. Come back when you’re shaving more than once every two weeks or so.

J.

Sorry, Smiley, you lose. But I’m sure you must be used to that by now.

I’m used to assholish Republican’t losers like you making false claims like that, yes. But then again, since lying and distortion is the stock in trade of the modern conservative movement, you have stayed right on track and started lying again. Is ducking all responsibility for your own clusterCheneys a baseline moral position of modern day Republican’ts? Sure sounds like it around here…

Tell me, oh never ever wrong (except for whenever he opens his mouth) Jay, who was in control of Congress at the time (and, this, responsible for investigatering the Enron activities at the time) of the Enron stuff you’re talking about? I’m sure since they were busy impeaching a president for getting a blowjob from someone who was not his wife (not illegal, but certainly worth splashing all over the papers while ignoring the business of government for a couple of years, I guess, in the minds of traitorous unamerican scum like you, Jay)? Who would have been in charge of getting those investigations underway under the Clinton administration, Jay?

It’s okay – you can check with Wikipedia (that font of awesome accuratude) all you want before you answer my questions, scumbag. Although I’m betting you’re either going to whinge about being called bad names again (oh, the irony of Jay Tea whinging about being called names! But I digress…) or completely ignore these questions, like you conveniently ignored all those other examples of Republican’ts wasting trillions of government money over the last eight years, while now trying to micromanage the governmental outlays and pretend to be scolds with some sort of moral high ground now that a non-Republican’t is large and in charge.

It’s just as funny today as it has been ever since you thought you actually were making some sort of relevant point with your hypocritical complaints about deficit spending after going on the longest streak of borrowing from our grandchildren’s grandchildren in the history of civilization.

Keep digging up, stupid!

“If an Iraqi gets tortured, and no one’s around to report it, does he scream?”

Please, if they really cared about that, they wouldn’t have supported the torture in the first place.

The blood of those that died after are on the hands of the Abu Ghraib torturers and those that cheerleaded it (you, for example), not the reporters who brought this injustice to light.

Likely our men died because of that reporting, Zython. That was what they were appalled at.

Grow up. Please.

Thank God. Because if we had, it would already be in the toilet.

What’s the current deadline for it going belly-up?

40 years later than if we had privitized it.

I wasn’t wrong about WMDs in Iraq. I argued that Saddam was obligated to PROVE he had disposed of all he had, and he refused. The proof is the numerous WMDs (no, no huge stockpiles) found in the aftermath.

Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Abu Ghraib? You mean that scandal that was first revealed by the Army, which prosecuted the perpetrators and punished them?

The one that the ultra cons were appalled at…for the MSM reporting on.

Well, how about the fact that so many people are doing everything they can to discredit the arguers and not actually address the point.

I’m not discrediting you all. You did that yourselves. I’m merely pointing it out.

He doesn’t mention Obama by name the entire time. Not once. He doesn’t say Obama’s plan will be a disaster, or even that these side effects will be worse than the problems we have now.

He even goes so far and to say something has to be done, and the results of doing nothing would be cataclysmic. AND he says the economy will recover. It will just take time.

None of this supports your original claim.

“Like George Will said yesterday as he put the smackdown on the schoolmarm Katrina van den Heuvel…”

Dennis, you can’t count past two. You don’t have the intellectual ability to tell when someone is putting the smackdown on another.

“I read what Buffet is saying in the whole context as being highly skeptical of Obama’s grand scheme.”

And you can’t count past two, Dennis, so what makes you think your opinion here matter?

Seriously?

What qualifies you to make that statement?

Have you been right about these matters in the past?

‘Last year’, S.S. You are the wrong one here.

Like George Will said yesterday as he put the smackdown on the schoolmarm Katrina van den Heuvel, ‘Obama is doing the equivalent of trying to perform open heart surgery on a man while he is running a marathon.’ I read what Buffet is saying in the whole context as being highly skeptical of Obama’s grand scheme. Difficult to reverse or impossible to reverse, it’s not a road it seems Buffet is at all comfortable with.

Dennis: “You only read what you wanted to read, Southern Strategy. It’s you who is the imbecile.
‘This debilitating spiral has spurred…’”

And the very next paragraph…

“Whatever the downsides may be, strong and immediate action by government was essential last year if the financial system was to avoid a total breakdown,”

Got it?

Problems causes by housing bubble bursting.
Doing nothing = Cataclysmic.
Obama’s Solution = Some negative consequences that will be politically difficult to reverse.

Since you can’t count past two, I realize this will be difficult for you to understand, but try and concentrate.

Buffet never said Obama is making things worse. Just that the side effects of the cure might be difficult to reverse later on. Difficult to reverse, not impossible to reverse. Nor are the side effects worse than the disease.

In other words…

You. Are. Wrong.

Again.

Funny how on a blog thread about a poorly sourced and loosely connected conspiracy theory already largely doubted on both sides you choose to chide all conservatives about someone else’s suspicions about Soros’ and Frank’s intentions, but whatever. At least this time you did put the question mark at the end of the blog title, as did Playboy and Barry Ritholtz, which means, ‘hey, don’t blame me if this is all just bullshit’. Maybe that’s what all conspiracy theorists should do.

Also funny how liberal blogs perpetuate the idea of Obama’s being a Muslim in terms of conservative conspiracy theories. When it was advantageous to do so, Obama supporters like Andrew Sullivan were boasting about Obama’s Muslim background.

Strange how liberals use the same form of information in once instance as a reason to vote for a candidate; and then the same information used by the opposition as a reason not to vote for him is considered a hate crime and a conspiracy theory.

You only read what you wanted to read, Southern Strategy. It’s you who is the imbecile.

“This debilitating spiral has spurred our government to take massive action. In poker terms, the Treasury and the Fed have gone “all in.” Economic medicine that was previously meted out by the cupful has recently been dispensed by the barrel. These once-unthinkable dosages will almost certainly bring on unwelcome after effects. Their precise nature is anyone’s guess, though one likely consequence is an onslaught of inflation. Moreover, major industries have become dependent on Federal assistance, and they will be followed by cities and states bearing mind-boggling requests. Weaning these entities from the public teat will be a political challenge. They won’t leave willingly.”————

And as an addendum to that, people who have behaved irresponsibly and are about to be bailed out of their mortgages will also become dependent on Federal assistance. And that is not a Southern Strategy or a Northern Strategy, nor an East or a West; it is the liberal strategy. This stimulus package is only the beginning, and investors are very aware of that.

Is it ironic that you are lying here? I have honest disagreements all of the time. This isn’t one of them.

Dennis posted a link that said the exact opposite of what he claimed it said. This is not up for debate, and I notice you and SFC B didn’t even try to claim otherwise. You instead both attacked me and ignored my argument. Hmm… there’s a term for that.

Me: “WHY DIDN’T YOUR MOTHER SMOTHER YOU IN YOUR CRIB!”

The Liar: “Gosh, a liberal endorsing infanticide.”

And another lie. No endorsement here, just a question.

“Gee, anyone else having Terry Schiavo flashbacks at Dr. Strowbridge’s amazing diagnostic talents?”

Come up with another explanation then. Explain what Dennis did without saying he is lying to stupid.

I wasn’t wrong about WMDs in Iraq. I argued that Saddam was obligated to PROVE he had disposed of all he had, and he refused. The proof is the numerous WMDs (no, no huge stockpiles) found in the aftermath.

In some cases, the troops were greeted as liberators. And that’s turning back that way now.

Where were “we” wrong about NCLB? I didn’t really follow that one. But I do know that “teaching to the test” at least is teaching, and guarantees that the kids will learn SOMETHING verifiable — which has to be an improvement.

Re: stem cell research — so far, it’s still TBD. So far, all the success has been in non-fetal stem cells.

Sex education? Funny, look at the teen pregnancy rates before the sexual revolution. On the other hand, I happen to agree that “abstinence only” is a really, really bad idea.

Social Security? I don’t recall ever trying a privatized Social Security. What’s the current deadline for it going belly-up?

Abu Ghraib? You mean that scandal that was first revealed by the Army, which prosecuted the perpetrators and punished them?

Guantanamo? Would that be the one that Obama’s AG just toured and said it was all right? So all right that they’re keeping the same standards at Bhagram?

And now for your actual question — “What makes you think you’re right now?”

Well, how about the fact that so many people are doing everything they can to discredit the arguers and not actually address the point.

I would also point out that Oliver is positing the grand conspiracy here. It is incumbent upon him to prove his point, not on anyone else to disprove it — logically, it can’t prove a negative.

J.