Comments on: Do You Remember? http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:48:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139387 Oliver Willis Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:32:31 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139387 The problem is (on the left) that people think that protest = end of Vietnam war when in fact it was protest + tons of bodybags + unwinnable stupid ass conflict that ended the Vietnam War. The idea that in the modern world you can do anything by just marching with a sign is the problem. Now, if you've got community organizers bringing people together working within the existing power structure, well you could do crazy stuff like electing a progressive black man with a weird sounding name the leader of the free world. The problem is (on the left) that people think that protest = end of Vietnam war when in fact it was protest + tons of bodybags + unwinnable stupid ass conflict that ended the Vietnam War. The idea that in the modern world you can do anything by just marching with a sign is the problem. Now, if you’ve got community organizers bringing people together working within the existing power structure, well you could do crazy stuff like electing a progressive black man with a weird sounding name the leader of the free world.

]]> By: rjpb http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139351 rjpb Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:37:32 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139351 Conservatives suck at organizing rallies and protests, and they know it, so when they get get more than twenty people to show up at one place they are ecstatic. If you are so impolite as to point out how pathetic the turnout is, they just respond that they are "just getting started", and that "conservatives have jobs they have to go to", unlike liberals who apparently have plenty of free time after cashing their government checks. Bless their cold little hearts, no amount of FAIL will ever shake the conservative movement's belief that the rest of America is looking to them for guidance. Conservatives suck at organizing rallies and protests, and they know it, so when they get get more than twenty people to show up at one place they are ecstatic.

If you are so impolite as to point out how pathetic the turnout is, they just respond that they are “just getting started”, and that “conservatives have jobs they have to go to”, unlike liberals who apparently have plenty of free time after cashing their government checks.

Bless their cold little hearts, no amount of FAIL will ever shake the conservative movement’s belief that the rest of America is looking to them for guidance.

]]> By: Jack J. http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139349 Jack J. Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:33:34 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139349 Protest do work if the cause is popular. In the case of the Rethugs, it aint. Like the MSM, they're seriously out of touch. Because the majority of Americans see them as sore-loser, clueless morons who got us into this mess. Let them protest. Protest do work if the cause is popular. In the case of the Rethugs, it aint. Like the MSM, they’re seriously out of touch.

Because the majority of Americans see them as sore-loser, clueless morons who got us into this mess. Let them protest.

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139342 Parthenon Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:40:50 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139342 <i>They seemed to have an effect on the Vietnam event while I was in the Army.</i> You may be right. What I should have said was "they seem to have never accomplished anything." I've read quite a bit of modern revisionism suggesting that the protests were a minor factor. When the political scientist (whose name I've forgotten; Gitlin might have been involved) controlled the statistics for the amount of war violence shown on television, suddenly politicians came out against it. When they controlled for protest activity, there was no correlation. They seemed to have an effect on the Vietnam event while I was in the Army.

You may be right. What I should have said was “they seem to have never accomplished anything.” I’ve read quite a bit of modern revisionism suggesting that the protests were a minor factor. When the political scientist (whose name I’ve forgotten; Gitlin might have been involved) controlled the statistics for the amount of war violence shown on television, suddenly politicians came out against it. When they controlled for protest activity, there was no correlation.

]]> By: Repack Rider http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139341 Repack Rider Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:27:44 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139341 <i>And I’m with you on the protests. They’ve never accomplished anything.</i> They seemed to have an effect on the Vietnam event while I was in the Army. And I’m with you on the protests. They’ve never accomplished anything.

They seemed to have an effect on the Vietnam event while I was in the Army.

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139338 Parthenon Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:59:26 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139338 And I'm with you on the protests. They've never accomplished anything. And I’m with you on the protests. They’ve never accomplished anything.

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139337 Parthenon Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:58:56 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139337 Are you suggesting Glenn "The independent totally libertarian and totally not a Republican" would be inconsistent and hypocritically favorable to Republicans? Scandalous! Are you suggesting Glenn “The independent totally libertarian and totally not a Republican” would be inconsistent and hypocritically favorable to Republicans?

Scandalous!

]]> By: jurassicpork http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139330 jurassicpork Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:59:59 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139330 This is what happens when you <a href="http://welcomebacktopottersville.blogspot.com/2009/02/and-why-are-we-still-listening-to-this.html" rel="nofollow">Joe Plumberize</a> the media. If you're kryptonite to stupid, Ollie, then the MSM is the lead that protects them from the kryptonite. This is what happens when you Joe Plumberize the media.

If you’re kryptonite to stupid, Ollie, then the MSM is the lead that protects them from the kryptonite.

]]> By: jr http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139321 jr Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:16:06 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139321 Glenn being Glenn Glenn being Glenn

]]> By: Carlos http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139319 Carlos Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:53:03 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139319 And what happened to the Right's mantra of "We're at war! We need to come together and support our President!"? And what happened to the Right’s mantra of “We’re at war! We need to come together and support our President!”?

]]> By: Jaim http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139308 Jaim Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:58:29 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139308 Remember how wingers were paying to put up billboards of Bush W. reading "Our Leader" or "Our President" or whatever? Yeah. IOKIYAR. IMO, dissent is patriotic. Please, throw all the tea parties you want. But at least have a little shame and realize the your howling levels of hypocrisy. Republicans aren't so good at that. Remember how wingers were paying to put up billboards of Bush W. reading “Our Leader” or “Our President” or whatever?

Yeah. IOKIYAR.

IMO, dissent is patriotic. Please, throw all the tea parties you want. But at least have a little shame and realize the your howling levels of hypocrisy.

Republicans aren’t so good at that.

]]> By: SFC B http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139300 SFC B Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:53:48 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139300 So, Instapundit linking to someone who thinks that the early anti-war protests were too focused on the protesters personal feelings, and another link where someone points out the factual connection between the early anti-war protests and a communist group means that conservatives think that protests are for idiots? So, Instapundit linking to someone who thinks that the early anti-war protests were too focused on the protesters personal feelings, and another link where someone points out the factual connection between the early anti-war protests and a communist group means that conservatives think that protests are for idiots?

]]> By: Ian Aleksander Adams http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139296 Ian Aleksander Adams Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:21:17 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139296 Around 300 with "potential to have a million"? Weren't there actual millions against the Iraq war? Around 300 with “potential to have a million”?

Weren’t there actual millions against the Iraq war?

]]> By: Broadway Carl http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/28/do-you-remember/#comment-139293 Broadway Carl Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:04:43 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13175#comment-139293 Well, at least they were conscientious enough to obtain permits from the government to start a revolution against the government. What a joke. Well, at least they were conscientious enough to obtain permits from the government to start a revolution against the government. What a joke.

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