Comments on: The Beginning Of The End Of The Iraq War http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:12:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: opit http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139423 opit Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:59:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139423 Get real. I'm still looking for that 'liberal media bias' from corporately owned media. Doesn't really make a hell of a lot of sense, does it ? I wish a blogging neighbour hadn't taken down his blog : Support the Troops is a Lie ! made a proper gutting of the garbage know how to do anything except talk out of both sides of their face - and they are badly outnumbered by the people sick to death of their shit.http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/ Yep. Real good. Take 'em over to the backside of creation next where 30% of the populkation are at risk of starvation. I'm sure they'll really do a fine foreign aid tour. Get real. I’m still looking for that ‘liberal media bias’ from corporately owned media. Doesn’t really make a hell of a lot of sense, does it ? I wish a blogging neighbour hadn’t taken down his blog : Support the Troops is a Lie ! made a proper gutting of the garbage know how to do anything except talk out of both sides of their face – and they are badly outnumbered by the people sick to death of their shit.http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/
Yep. Real good. Take ‘em over to the backside of creation next where 30% of the populkation are at risk of starvation. I’m sure they’ll really do a fine foreign aid tour.

]]> By: Zython http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139382 Zython Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:01:17 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139382 <i>2005 called, they want their meme back.</i> It's nice to see that you equate troops without body armor with "Can I has cheezburger". Really, it is. <i>Uh, no. Jaim’s point was made perfectly well without including the buzz words I’d heard for years in recruiting which were usually followed by “taking advantage of the poor and minorities”.</i> Admit it, you don't want him to mention it because it makes you feel uncomfortable. 2005 called, they want their meme back.

It’s nice to see that you equate troops without body armor with “Can I has cheezburger”. Really, it is.

Uh, no. Jaim’s point was made perfectly well without including the buzz words I’d heard for years in recruiting which were usually followed by “taking advantage of the poor and minorities”.

Admit it, you don’t want him to mention it because it makes you feel uncomfortable.

]]> By: SFC B http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139356 SFC B Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:06:47 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139356 <blockquote>Because we’re talking about dems in the military?</blockquote>Uh, no. Jaim's point was made perfectly well without including the buzz words I'd heard for years in recruiting which were usually followed by "taking advantage of the poor and minorities".<blockquote>sending troops into harms way improperly equipped, without a clear battle plan...</blockquote>2005 called, they want their meme back.<blockquote>decreasing levels of support once they return home</blockquote>And I would love to see what proof you have that any slice of Americans have been decreasing their support of the troops. Speaking as one, the number of people professing their support compared to those opposing us is easily 100-1.

Because we’re talking about dems in the military?

Uh, no. Jaim’s point was made perfectly well without including the buzz words I’d heard for years in recruiting which were usually followed by “taking advantage of the poor and minorities”.

sending troops into harms way improperly equipped, without a clear battle plan…

2005 called, they want their meme back.

decreasing levels of support once they return home

And I would love to see what proof you have that any slice of Americans have been decreasing their support of the troops. Speaking as one, the number of people professing their support compared to those opposing us is easily 100-1.

]]> By: Zython http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139305 Zython Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:19:54 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139305 <i>What the hell does it matter that blacks volunteer to serve in the military at a proportion greater than their slice of the population at large? Your point is made perfectly well without this comment, yet you felt compelled to include it?</i> Because we're talking about dems in the military? I think it's perfectly relevant. What the hell does it matter that blacks volunteer to serve in the military at a proportion greater than their slice of the population at large? Your point is made perfectly well without this comment, yet you felt compelled to include it?

Because we’re talking about dems in the military? I think it’s perfectly relevant.

]]> By: SFC B http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139299 SFC B Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:47:07 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139299 <blockquote>They make up a disproportionate number of those serving.</blockquote>What the hell does it matter that blacks volunteer to serve in the military at a proportion greater than their slice of the population at large? Your point is made perfectly well without this comment, yet you felt compelled to include it?

They make up a disproportionate number of those serving.

What the hell does it matter that blacks volunteer to serve in the military at a proportion greater than their slice of the population at large? Your point is made perfectly well without this comment, yet you felt compelled to include it?

]]> By: Jaim http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139255 Jaim Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:41:11 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139255 I've met some US troops here in Korea. The ones I've talked politics with vote Dem and are totally excited for our new president. Granted, it's an age thing as well -- people under 60 tend to vote Dem. It's also an African-American thing, as far as I can tell. They make up a disproportionate number of those serving. All of which is to say, Joaquin is a moronic douchenozzle of the highest order. And hey, Joaquin, which branch of the armed forces did you serve in anyways? Navy? Marines? Please share your war-time stories with us! I’ve met some US troops here in Korea. The ones I’ve talked politics with vote Dem and are totally excited for our new president.

Granted, it’s an age thing as well — people under 60 tend to vote Dem. It’s also an African-American thing, as far as I can tell. They make up a disproportionate number of those serving.

All of which is to say, Joaquin is a moronic douchenozzle of the highest order.

And hey, Joaquin, which branch of the armed forces did you serve in anyways? Navy? Marines? Please share your war-time stories with us!

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139229 Sean D. Martin Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:58:20 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139229 joaquin: <i>Come on! You have to admit that it’s damn funny when a Lib makes an attempt to praise the military. You just know he was sweating his a$$ off in front of all those Marines. You just know it!</i> No. Absolutely don't have to admit it because it simply isn't true that liberal = disdain for the military. You clearly want it to be because that simplistic view is easier for you to grasp. But it's no more accurate than the idea that everyone on the right is a hypocritical gay basher who wants to bugger a Congressional page. The reality is many on the left have been highly supportive of the men an women who serve in the armed forces. In many cases far more than those on the right who, in recent years, have shown their support by sending troops into harms way improperly equipped, without a clear battle plan and with decreasing levels of support once they return home. joaquin: Come on! You have to admit that it’s damn funny when a Lib makes an attempt to praise the military.
You just know he was sweating his a$$ off in front of all those Marines. You just know it!

No. Absolutely don’t have to admit it because it simply isn’t true that liberal = disdain for the military. You clearly want it to be because that simplistic view is easier for you to grasp. But it’s no more accurate than the idea that everyone on the right is a hypocritical gay basher who wants to bugger a Congressional page.

The reality is many on the left have been highly supportive of the men an women who serve in the armed forces. In many cases far more than those on the right who, in recent years, have shown their support by sending troops into harms way improperly equipped, without a clear battle plan and with decreasing levels of support once they return home.

]]> By: Jack J. http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139206 Jack J. Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:56:44 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139206 If you have any doubts about how the "Rethuglicans" view our troops, I have three long forgotten words: Walter Reed Hospital Joachim, try getting drunk AFTER you've finished posting your comments. If you have any doubts about how the “Rethuglicans” view our troops, I have three long forgotten words:

Walter Reed Hospital

Joachim, try getting drunk AFTER you’ve finished posting your comments.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139183 Duros62 Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:53:33 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139183 <i>You have to admit that it’s damn funny when a Lib makes an attempt to praise the military.</i> No, sorry, I don't get the joke. Oh, maybe it's funny to you because when liberals praise the military, they actually mean it instead of just trying to co-opt the patriotism? You have to admit that it’s damn funny when a Lib makes an attempt to praise the military.

No, sorry, I don’t get the joke. Oh, maybe it’s funny to you because when liberals praise the military, they actually mean it instead of just trying to co-opt the patriotism?

]]> By: Nimrod Gently http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139167 Nimrod Gently Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:56:21 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139167 Only to a Conservative, J. Because only a Conservative is stupid and/or crazy enough to genuinely believe anyone to the left of John Boehner genuinely hates all individual soldiers on general principles. Only to a Conservative, J. Because only a Conservative is stupid and/or crazy enough to genuinely believe anyone to the left of John Boehner genuinely hates all individual soldiers on general principles.

]]> By: I'm a Hick http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139162 I'm a Hick Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:29:22 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139162 My nephew is a Marine Lance corporal and served two tours in Iraq. He's currently awaiting word on whether he will be allowed to remain in the Corps or be forced to take a medical discharge as the result of a stateside Humvee accident. He voted for Obama. My nephew is a Marine Lance corporal and served two tours in Iraq.

He’s currently awaiting word on whether he will be allowed to remain in the Corps or be forced to take a medical discharge as the result of a stateside Humvee accident.

He voted for Obama.

]]> By: joaquin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139157 joaquin Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:09:10 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139157 Come on! You have to admit that it's damn funny when a Lib makes an attempt to praise the military. You just know he was sweating his a$$ off in front of all those Marines. You just know it! Come on! You have to admit that it’s damn funny when a Lib makes an attempt to praise the military.
You just know he was sweating his a$$ off in front of all those Marines. You just know it!

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139153 Sean D. Martin Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:58:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139153 QiaB: <i>Anyone who has a job knows...</i> Well, now WONDER joaquin is confused. QiaB: Anyone who has a job knows…

Well, now WONDER joaquin is confused.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139149 Quaker in a Basement Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:52:56 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139149 Anyone who has a job knows that "Exceeds Expectations" is the highest performance evaluation you can get. Anyone who has a job knows that “Exceeds Expectations” is the highest performance evaluation you can get.

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139147 Parthenon Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:46:01 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139147 It's hard work keeping up the "dems hate the military" myth. Joaquin has obviously been working some unpaid overtime; his circuits are rapidly losing structural integrity. It’s hard work keeping up the “dems hate the military” myth. Joaquin has obviously been working some unpaid overtime; his circuits are rapidly losing structural integrity.

]]> By: Sean D. Martin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139141 Sean D. Martin Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:33:52 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139141 Shorter joaquin: It's Obama, therefore it's objectionable. Shorter joaquin: It’s Obama, therefore it’s objectionable.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139140 Duros62 Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:33:15 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139140 So Obama (rightly) commends our armed forces for their efforts and you find a way to slam him for it? Speaking of weasel punks.. So Obama (rightly) commends our armed forces for their efforts and you find a way to slam him for it?

Speaking of weasel punks..

]]> By: Zython http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139139 Zython Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:31:12 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139139 Wait, you think that lying to the American people to go to war constitutes "political courage"? Personally, I'm pleasantly surprised that the surge didn't turn out to be extra cannon-fodder. I also would've been more supportive of the Iraq war if the reason was disposing of Sadam for the Iraqi people, though the Bush administration knew that the general American public, much less their base, would support that (see: Darfur). However, none of that changes the fact that this could have all been avoided in the first place. Thousands of American troops and tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died because of the Bush administration's short-sightedness and arrogance. And those people's blood are on your hands, Joaquin. But, to quote Lady Macbeth: "A little water will clear us of this deed". Wait, you think that lying to the American people to go to war constitutes “political courage”?

Personally, I’m pleasantly surprised that the surge didn’t turn out to be extra cannon-fodder. I also would’ve been more supportive of the Iraq war if the reason was disposing of Sadam for the Iraqi people, though the Bush administration knew that the general American public, much less their base, would support that (see: Darfur). However, none of that changes the fact that this could have all been avoided in the first place. Thousands of American troops and tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died because of the Bush administration’s short-sightedness and arrogance. And those people’s blood are on your hands, Joaquin. But, to quote Lady Macbeth: “A little water will clear us of this deed”.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139137 Oliver Willis Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:29:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139137 Oh give me a break. Obama has said that for ages, we have never doubted the skill of the soldiers - it was their previous commander in chief who was effed in the skull. Oh give me a break. Obama has said that for ages, we have never doubted the skill of the soldiers – it was their previous commander in chief who was effed in the skull.

]]> By: joaquin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/27/the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-iraq-war/#comment-139133 joaquin Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:11:29 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=13155#comment-139133 Yo Oliver, you conveniently forgot the part where he said: “The men and women of the United States military have served with honor, and succeeded beyond any expectation.” Any expectation? Beyond his, certainly. This guy, opposed this war from the beginning, claiming it could not succeed. Back in 2006 he called for surrender and withdrawal. He opposed the surge, and even after it succeeded said he was still right in opposing it. Spoken like a true weasel! For him now not merely to hail the success, but to have the audacity to suggest that no one could have expected it, to fail to acknowledge not just the military courage of our troops but the political courage of our former leaders, and your own failure of courage and vision, is contemptible. This guy is turning into a true PUNK! Yo Oliver, you conveniently forgot the part where he said:

“The men and women of the United States military have served with honor, and succeeded beyond any expectation.”

Any expectation? Beyond his, certainly. This guy, opposed this war from the beginning, claiming it could not succeed. Back in 2006 he called for surrender and withdrawal. He opposed the surge, and even after it succeeded said he was still right in opposing it. Spoken like a true weasel!

For him now not merely to hail the success, but to have the audacity to suggest that no one could have expected it, to fail to acknowledge not just the military courage of our troops but the political courage of our former leaders, and your own failure of courage and vision, is contemptible.
This guy is turning into a true PUNK!

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