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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-139135</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The “new Sheriff in town” has only been on the job for less than 2 months. It will take longer than that to change the negative perception the world has of us.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s true. But you gotta start somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The “new Sheriff in town” has only been on the job for less than 2 months. It will take longer than that to change the negative perception the world has of us.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s true. But you gotta start somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack J.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-139016</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;new Sheriff in town&quot; has only been on the job for less than 2 months. It will take longer than that to change the negative perception the world has of us.

They are waiting to see the results of our ACTIONS, not our words. 

SaveFarris, the U.S. military review&#039;s conclusions that prisoner treatment met Geneva Convention&#039;s Standards, it lacks credibility simply because the review was done by the American military and ignored allegations and/or proof of torture. I doubt that the U.N. would make the same conclusion.

If you have info to the contrary, post it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;new Sheriff in town&#8221; has only been on the job for less than 2 months. It will take longer than that to change the negative perception the world has of us.</p>
<p>They are waiting to see the results of our ACTIONS, not our words. </p>
<p>SaveFarris, the U.S. military review&#8217;s conclusions that prisoner treatment met Geneva Convention&#8217;s Standards, it lacks credibility simply because the review was done by the American military and ignored allegations and/or proof of torture. I doubt that the U.N. would make the same conclusion.</p>
<p>If you have info to the contrary, post it.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-139003</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;After 8 years of denying people (including our own citizens)due process while mocking the Geneva Convention&lt;/i&gt;

Jack J, please keep up with &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090226/ts_nm/us_security_usa_guantanamo_2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;current events&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;A U.S. military review begun in January of Guantanamo conditions concluded that inmate treatment met Geneva Conventions standards. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>After 8 years of denying people (including our own citizens)due process while mocking the Geneva Convention</i></p>
<p>Jack J, please keep up with <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090226/ts_nm/us_security_usa_guantanamo_2" rel="nofollow">current events</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A U.S. military review begun in January of Guantanamo conditions concluded that inmate treatment met Geneva Conventions standards. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-139000</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;how the hell can we lecture China on human rights?&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Cuz there&#039;s a new sheriff in town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>how the hell can we lecture China on human rights?</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Cuz there&#8217;s a new sheriff in town.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-138996</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry guys, this doesn&#039;t fall on Bush and stuff about behind closed doors talk doesn&#039;t cut the mustard either. America has to stand up for human rights, in public, and loudly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry guys, this doesn&#8217;t fall on Bush and stuff about behind closed doors talk doesn&#8217;t cut the mustard either. America has to stand up for human rights, in public, and loudly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack J.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-138990</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After 8 years of denying people (including our own citizens)due process while mocking the Geneva Convention and our own Constitution, how the hell can we lecture China on human rights?

We have zero credibility.

Not only that but we owe them BILLIONS of dollars, dollars used to prop up our economy.

Thank Bush and the goosestepping GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 8 years of denying people (including our own citizens)due process while mocking the Geneva Convention and our own Constitution, how the hell can we lecture China on human rights?</p>
<p>We have zero credibility.</p>
<p>Not only that but we owe them BILLIONS of dollars, dollars used to prop up our economy.</p>
<p>Thank Bush and the goosestepping GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and we don&#039;t know what was said behind closed doors. Public scolding can be made half a world away and accomplishes little except to play to an expectant audience.

Private scolding with &quot;we thank you for what you&#039;ve done, but you&#039;ve got a heck of a long way to go in this, this, and this&quot; will get much more traction.

Events of the last few decades show us that the Chinese do NOT respond well at all to public scolding and threats. Whatever has been accomplished has been behind the scenes and developed over time.

Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and we don&#8217;t know what was said behind closed doors. Public scolding can be made half a world away and accomplishes little except to play to an expectant audience.</p>
<p>Private scolding with &#8220;we thank you for what you&#8217;ve done, but you&#8217;ve got a heck of a long way to go in this, this, and this&#8221; will get much more traction.</p>
<p>Events of the last few decades show us that the Chinese do NOT respond well at all to public scolding and threats. Whatever has been accomplished has been behind the scenes and developed over time.</p>
<p>Gary</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-138986</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, that&#039;s pretty truther, JT. 

&lt;i&gt;Just because she didn’t smack them around this trip doesn’t mean she is a big softy.&lt;/i&gt;

Agreed. The Secretary&#039;s an asset. Still has a very solid reputation overseas (at least from what I can tell), and she can get her hands dirty. Just cause she&#039;s smiling doesn&#039;t mean she&#039;s making nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, that&#8217;s pretty truther, JT. </p>
<p><i>Just because she didn’t smack them around this trip doesn’t mean she is a big softy.</i></p>
<p>Agreed. The Secretary&#8217;s an asset. Still has a very solid reputation overseas (at least from what I can tell), and she can get her hands dirty. Just cause she&#8217;s smiling doesn&#8217;t mean she&#8217;s making nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-138985</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just because she didn&#039;t smack them around this trip doesn&#039;t mean she is a big softy.

You make nice with the new neighbors before bitching about their dog shitting in your yard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because she didn&#8217;t smack them around this trip doesn&#8217;t mean she is a big softy.</p>
<p>You make nice with the new neighbors before bitching about their dog shitting in your yard.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-138970</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t the State Department under Shrub, I mean Bush Jnr, remove China from the Human Rights Violators list last year? So the new State Department is actually telling the truth? 

America... The Truth Will Set You Free!!!

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0313/p03s05-usfp.html

March 13, 2008
Washington - It was mostly the usual suspects on the State Department&#039;s list of the world&#039;s worst countries for human rights violations, but standing out for its absence from the list this year was China.

State Dept follows policy, point proven by history, on behalf of the Southern Hemisphere, thank you AMERICA! Again for voting in an HONEST administration that prides itself, or at least can define the term integrity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t the State Department under Shrub, I mean Bush Jnr, remove China from the Human Rights Violators list last year? So the new State Department is actually telling the truth? </p>
<p>America&#8230; The Truth Will Set You Free!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0313/p03s05-usfp.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0313/p03s05-usfp.html</a></p>
<p>March 13, 2008<br />
Washington &#8211; It was mostly the usual suspects on the State Department&#8217;s list of the world&#8217;s worst countries for human rights violations, but standing out for its absence from the list this year was China.</p>
<p>State Dept follows policy, point proven by history, on behalf of the Southern Hemisphere, thank you AMERICA! Again for voting in an HONEST administration that prides itself, or at least can define the term integrity!</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-138920</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don&#039;t forget the secret drug runs into Arkansas! You people are such morons on this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t forget the secret drug runs into Arkansas! You people are such morons on this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/02/25/secretary-clinton-didnt-stand-up-to-china/#comment-138906</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Uh, the State Dept works for her.&lt;/i&gt;

The State Department works for the State Department. I think it&#039;s been at least since Reagan -- if not Nixon -- that the Secretary of State didn&#039;t end up getting &quot;captured&quot; by the system.

And perhaps the Chinese hinted to Madame Secretary that they just might &quot;leak&quot; how they got so much US technology in the 1990&#039;s if she didn&#039;t play nice on her first visit...

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Uh, the State Dept works for her.</i></p>
<p>The State Department works for the State Department. I think it&#8217;s been at least since Reagan &#8212; if not Nixon &#8212; that the Secretary of State didn&#8217;t end up getting &#8220;captured&#8221; by the system.</p>
<p>And perhaps the Chinese hinted to Madame Secretary that they just might &#8220;leak&#8221; how they got so much US technology in the 1990&#8242;s if she didn&#8217;t play nice on her first visit&#8230;</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, the State Dept works for her.  There&#039;s no way she didn&#039;t know the human rights report was coming out.

It was all timed perfectly in order to 1) allow HRC to go to China and beg them to continue to gobble up our government paper, 2) allow the Chinese to save face by not calling them out face-to-face and 3) still give them a stern finger-wagging about human rights.

It&#039;s called &#039;politics&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, the State Dept works for her.  There&#8217;s no way she didn&#8217;t know the human rights report was coming out.</p>
<p>It was all timed perfectly in order to 1) allow HRC to go to China and beg them to continue to gobble up our government paper, 2) allow the Chinese to save face by not calling them out face-to-face and 3) still give them a stern finger-wagging about human rights.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called &#8216;politics&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t that the reason we voted for Obama and not for Clinton? Because we wanted to be able to look at ourselves in the mirror?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that the reason we voted for Obama and not for Clinton? Because we wanted to be able to look at ourselves in the mirror?</p>
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