You don’t really think that or you wouldn’t work so diligently responding to all the things I write. You seem to take my comments fairly seriously judging from just the shear number or your responses to me.

If you truly do think that, though, fafaroo, as one human being to another my charitable advice would be to stop wasting time on me. Life is much too short to do otherwise.

Sorry to break the news to you Dennis, but your message came across loud and clear. You’re a hack.

Listen, messages get jumbled on blogs and I don’t think mine came across clearly. None of us should reveal personal stuff on blogs either, but my point was not to claim higher ground because I owned a home. I doubt anyone could change the market dynamics in the housing market right now, and no I don’t blame Obama. The honest truth is, I am impressed with the guy. I don’t agree with his politics and I don’t think what he is doing is the right thing, but I think he is mostly honest and a brilliant politician, and I don’t expect him to work miracles. But a month into the office and he seems to me to have lost his footing talking about the economy, and yes, I think that is not making him look like the strong leader he came across as in the campaigns, and that is reflected in the stock market, to an extent.

I’m not the only one who thinks this…Meltdown on MSNBC?

Again, I don’t blame him for the stock market collapse, but I do at least partially for the way it’s going that I’ve mentioned too many times here already, but a weaker stock market makes everyone continue to freak out, and that is not good for anything.

Sorry to accuse you of telling me to STFU. So many here say it I forget who says it, but it is a common response.

Let me get this straight. You’re not blaming the guy who sold you your house then, but you are blaming Obama now because you can’t sell your house? This because he’s a “charlatan socialist” who is destroying the economy with speeches? Okey Dokey.

First off, when did I tell you to STFU?

Second, if Obama is a “charlatan socialist” that means he isn’t a socialist at all. Try to get your rants in order before posting.

Third, all you’re doing is complaining that after a month in office, Obama hasn’t yet made it miraculously possible for you to sell your home in a market that’s been shitty for over a year now.

Come on, dude. I don’t need to own a home or have kids to know a whining hack when I hear one.

No, I live with the decisions I make and move on. I’m not under any illusion of blaming my decisions on a salesman and thinking that gets me bailed out of anything. It’s another thing for you that doesn’t have a house or, I’m assuming, no dependents to care and pay for, to tell someone like me to just STFU and appreciate what this charlatan socialist is doing to this country every time he opens his mouth.

So you’re just whining because you’re a whiner, then.

The choice I made wasn’t necessarily a bad one, just one that I thought that there’d be a demand for homes for when I decided to downsize at this point, and there’s not.

As to your not owning a home, you are correct, you have just as much say about the mortgage decisions Congress is enacting as I do. I don’t blame you for it, but by the same token, I have just as much right to express an opinion on war decisions as someone who has been in the military. When Repack Rider or Mister ed has come on here and called me a chickenhawk though, I don’t recall you or anyone else for that matter, telling him he was wrong to do that. Does Repack Rider come at it from a different angle that is a little more real? Yes. And so does someone who’s been through the mortgage process six times and everyone had repercussions and risks for what was undertaken, not only to me but my family that I support. That’s all.

And btw, the whole mortgage process isn’t rocket science. Adjustable rates adjust. Housing prices go up and they go down. As much as I abhor the predatory lending practices that went on, it amazes me how many people are using that as an excuse for the stupid decisions they made and were taken in by people they don’t even know and pretended they didn’t know anyone they could go to for a second opinion. These are people that would never in their wildest dreams ever buy a car from someone they didn’t think was a good guy within the first ten seconds. For a great many people, there really is no excuse.

I don’t but that couldn’t be more beside the point, could it? I work and live in the same national economy you do. I’m impacted it by it as much as you are, in some ways similar, in some ways different.

If you can’t sell your house in this market, don’t sell it. If you need to sell your house for some reason, well, Dennis, maybe you should have planned a little better. Correct?

If you want to bitch and moan about your situation and blame Obama for it, fine. Whatever. But he can’t wave a magic wand and rescue the housing industry, can he? Do you want him to come down to your next open house?

The right wing made a lot of jokes and noise during the campaign and even now about some Obama supporters who thought that Obama was going to rescue them from bad mortgages and bad choices. Sounds like you’re just doing the same.

Amigo, I’m getting the feeling one man’s ‘talking down’ is another man’s ‘honest assessment.’ I seem to remember this being something of a campaign issue, where a certain gentleman kept going on about how awesome the economy was and got pretty snakebit for it. Not that I’m suggesting he say whatever will be popular, but if the words ‘the fundamentals of the economy are strong’ produced such a widespread uproar, might there have been a reason for it?

Heh. Indeed.
Not gonna touch that.
I was referring to her whining about getting kicked off the Today Show.
And I’ll wear her criticism as a badge of honor as well.

And liberals were the ones who thought Bush was using terror to try to scare everyone into agreeing with anti-terror legislation and all sorts of conspiracy nut type stuff every time he mentioned the word. Now Obama uses the word crisis in every sentence of every speech and it makes everyones sphincter curl up and you guys are fine we he wants to bail out mortgage holders who lied to get their mortgage and now are in a pickle, which is to say for many of them, right back where they were before they got the house they never could afford.

Again, fafaroo, do you own a home?

Dude. you were clearly listening to the right wing version of Obama’s campaign whether it was from Limbaugh or elsewhere. Obama spoke about hope and change if were ready to work for it, if we were ready to do the hard work that needed to be done. if you disagree, please give me the quote and or quotes in which Obama states his belief that words alone are enough to change anything.

I do remember Bush and McCain going after Obama for “talking down the economy”. They’re the ones who actually made an implicit case that pretty words were enough to fix the mess.

Apparently I listen to him a whole lot less than you and most other people here do, fafaroo. As to Obama, he DID give people he could change the economic reality we’re facing with words, so I’m blown away that you would say that. It was his words of hope and change that got him elected. Now that he’s in that office, his words are of doom and gloom largely. It’s a valid point, one that not just Rush Limbaugh and other conservatives are making, but Democrats too.

Wow, Dennis. Way to talk down the economy.

George Bush and John McCain telling everyone that the fundamentals of the economy are sound and that everything is just dandy, didn’t stop this crisis from happening, did it?

And now you want to criticize Obama for doing what you just did in this post: describing the reality of the situation to the American people.

Obama is talking about creating jobs, rescuing home owners, shoring up the banking system etc. etc. But he’s also doing it in realistic terms. Obama can’t change the economic reality we’re facing with words, just as Bush and McCain couldn’t stop the crises from happening with happy speeches.

If you just want someone to blow smoke up your ass, fine. Keep listening to Rush Limbaugh.

Duro, she’s got more balls than you, me, and about any five other guys here you could name, combined. Which is kinda freaky-deaky, but it’s true.

And I’m not so sure it’s all that true that she whines much about being a victim of liberal bias. Pretty much every time she asked about the attacks against her from libs, she usually says something along the lines of “I wear their contempt as a badge of honor!”

Glad to help out. I mean that. Would you get paid more if I bought all my Ann Coulter books that I give away as birthday presents from clicking on that link here?

Or maybe I should start my own blog if there’s that much money in it. OliverWatch.com. I like that.

That and her whining and crying that she is a victim of liberal bias, while she hawks a book about liberal victimization.

Oh, Irony, thy aim is true.

And if Human Events is dumb enough to have their ads run here and apparently enough wingers come by to click on them, who am I to refuse their greenbacks?

Let me ask you something. Do you own a home? And if you do, are you in a situation where you’d like to sell it possibly and are aware of the market in your area.

I very much want to sell my house and downsize now that my oldest daughter is away at college and my youngest is two years away from the same. There is literally no buying of houses in my area in my price range, and there are a lot of homes in my zone on the market, with a lot more behind it that would like to sell but aren’t going to put their’s on the market to have it sit for a year or so.

I am being honest with you when I tell you the rhetoric Obama has been using of late is not conducive to changing that dynamic one freaking iota. So is Obama trying to discourage home ownership? No, I don’t think he is. Is he? You look at the stats and tell me.

Call me a tool all you want to, but if you think Limbaugh doesn’t have a point that Obama is talking up the crisis and scaring the crap out of both investors and homeowners just a little too much, then you are either not paying attention or you are very selective in where you choose to get your information. Or you just have no skin in the game.