Popular President Vs. Out Of Touch Republicans
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New poll from AP:
Job as President
67% approve
24% disaproveObama’s handling of the Economy
68% approve
27% disapproveDo you approve or disapprove the Stimulus package
52% approve
41% opposeDo you approve or disapprove of the way Dems in Congress are handling the economy?
49% approve
41% disapproveDo you approve or disapprove of the way Republicans in Congress are handling the economy?
33% approve
59% disapproveHow much is Barack Obama doing to cooperate with the Republicans in Congress? Is he doing
Too much 6%
Not enough 30 %
About the right amount 62%How much do you think the Republicans in Congress are doing to cooperate with Barack Obama? Are they doing
Too much 5%
Not enough 64%
About the right amount 27%
But remember, Fox News and The Washington Post and John McCain are vewy vewy concerned about “bipartisanship” that involves President Obama giving in to the increasingly shrinking Republicans, so its all doom.
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Obama’s gotta work on that salute. When you’re uncovered, the easiest way is to make sure your index finger touches the tip of your eyebrow. Your hand is NOT supposed to cover your eye!
Won’t some general help him practice or something?
Thomas Frank had a good piece in the WSJ about the media’s obsession with bipartisanship:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123491659161904365.html
Republicans had the power for eight years, and they ruined the country. Why should anyone listen to what any of them has to say, when we already know that they’ll just cry for more tax cuts for Paris Hilton and George Soros?
Luv has it exactly right. He looks pretty stupid doing that.
fresh wingnut fodder.
I’m sure there’s absolutely no correlation between how the AP administered that poll and the fact that the AP seems hellbent on putting the best possible light on the fact Obama’s hope and change measure doesn’t quite convince the stock market.
Why Is AP Talking Up The Stock Market?
The exact same headline two days in a row. Hoping for some positive momentum. Hoping.
So am I.
This is embarrassing reporting. I’m sure the polling is just the opposite.
Yes, all part of the conspiracy. You guys are hilarious.
We’re not even getting dead cat bounces in the stock market anymore, Oliver. There’s a ginormous amount of money on the sidelines and in fixed income securities waiting for signs of a market turnaround, if and when then comes. But right now, people aren’t buying the hope that Obama is selling. He’s trying to sell hope when every other word out of his mouth is ‘crisis’. He can’t expect people to be scared out of their wits so they believe his Stimulus sales job, and then turn around and want to invest in America.
If that polling were true, you’d see a lot more optimism about the future, and that would reflect somewhat in the stock market. It doesn’t even tread water; it only knows one direction. If you are long, you are wrong.
So when the Dow rebounds you’ll concede you’re wrong, right? Your comments denying what every other poll shows are much like the preelection noise from the right. You can’t accept that Obamas popular and has the support of the people. Aren’t u guys tired of creating your own reality?
Yes, all part of the conspiracy. You guys are hilarious.
You don’t seem the least bit embarrassed about calling one cartoonist yesterday a conspiracy. I asked a couple times what you meant by ‘they’ when you said “they come right out and compare the President to a monkey”. “Don’t hide your racism, wingers.” I’m assuming you think that was all a big conspiracy by your use of plural in both those statements.
So when the Dow rebounds you’ll concede you’re wrong, right?
I want the stock market to come back, Oliver. Everyone does. It’s not. And it’s not for a very good reason. Another thing you must think is a conspiracy. The world stock markets aren’t rebounding either, so that conspiracy theory goes out the door too. I’m just saying, if that poll is correct and people have money on the sideline waiting to employ it, and they do, why aren’t they showing their optimism by buying things if they have faith in this stimulus package. It’s a conspiracy theory to say the Dow’s downward movement through this phase is not attributed at least partially if not significantly to hesitant feelings toward the Stimulus bill on the part of investors.
And yeah, if the Dow rebounds and the economy takes off and we get back above 11-12,000 or so anytime soon, I’ll say I was wrong, subject to what actually happens. Will you say you’re wrong if we continue to languish? Somehow I doubt it.
You don’t seem the least bit embarrassed about calling one cartoonist yesterday a conspiracy.
I didn’t say it was a conspiracy. Its part of a pattern of conservative racism that permeates the Republican party. You may not be a racist but the party and movement you aligned yourself with is. It’s not my fault. I don’t associate myself with it. But I write about it when it happens in the – futile – hope that the right will see that stepping on minorities is no way to be.
why aren’t they showing their optimism by buying things if they have faith in this stimulus package
Were you the kind of kid like Veruca Salt who stamped their feet and said they want it NOW?! George Bush, Wall Street, and speculators have fucked up the world economy. The economic stimulus bill was signed two days ago. The banking and mortgage fixes aren’t even on paper yet. It took FDR and America a while to undo Hoovernomics. It’ll take a while to undo Bush.
Oliver- I’m aware you didn’t call it a conspiracy, just like I didn’t call the AP poll a conspiracy and you implied I did. If I’m wrong to imply it from what you said, then how was I to interpret what you meant when you said ‘they’ and ‘wingers’. If that cartoonist had a history of making racist cartoon, like Rall does, then you’d have a point using the plural. But neither the cartoonist nor the editor even hinted that they thought the cartoon was meant to depict Obama as a monkey. I’m not excusing it, and for the 3rd time I will say I understand people being offended, I just don’t get where you think it was a concerted effort, and that ‘wingers’ had anything to do with it. I’m sincerley asking you to help me out here. I agree, stepping on minorites is no way to act, but accusing me, not that you did but your cohorts did and do regularly, is no way to get the message across. It just does what Holder said yesterday, it furthers the divide and makes us all afraid to want to have racial discussions.
Were you the kind of kid like Veruca Salt who stamped their feet and said they want it NOW?! George Bush, Wall Street, and speculators have fucked up the world economy. OW
No, not particulary. But I think I’ve been more than explicit in explaining how investor’s expectations affect market movements. If investors thought even a 2 or 3 year horizon would be about the amount of time before things took off again, they’d be bidding up the market instead of accepting a 0% return or so on their money market funds. It’d be in their interest to do so. It’d be in the Wall Street traders interests too. It’s a valid point, and I’m certainly not the author of it. And the economic stimulus bill has been in the works for a long time, and not only that, it’s been a virtual given that Obama was going to be the President for a long time and that this type of measure was going to be what he wanted to do. All that is very public information. If investors were as stoked about his economic plans as they are about his presidency and his hopes and calls for change, then you’d see a lot better stock action.
Like I said, it’s in their interest to want to invest when they think stocks are cheap. They just don’t think they are right now.
“Luv has it exactly right. He looks pretty stupid doing that.
fresh wingnut fodder.”
It wasn’t meant to be fodder. It’s not a BAD salute, just not exactly proper. I was in the Navy for 10 years. We wear dixie cups and garrison caps (no brim) so we get used to the “eyebrow” salute.
Obama just needs to practice.
I just don’t get where you think it was a concerted effort, and that ‘wingers’ had anything to do with it.
Yes, lets play the fool again. Okay lemme dumb it down for you: NY Post, its sister organization Fox News, and the larger conservative movement have a history of making racist attacks on people. This was the latest.
It just does what Holder said yesterday, it furthers the divide and makes us all afraid to want to have racial discussions.
Yeah, and the right jumped all over him for stating the obvious truth.
If investors were as stoked about his economic plans as they are about his presidency and his hopes and calls for change, then you’d see a lot better stock action.
Yes, the same people who thought it was a good idea to pump up mortgage backed securities, or a decade ago internet stocks, or biotechs or whatever is the bubble du jour aren’t the best folks I would look to for showing me the fundamentals of the economy’s strengths. I don’t think President Obama can flip the switch over the night – and most importantly – he’s said so himself time and again. Obama’s never said “elect me and days later the Dow will soar”. He’s not stupid like that.
The president, finally after so many years, has the confidence of the American people but we rightly don’t trust wall street, the banks, or business in general. So why would people invest? The market’s got to shake out, we’re putting in programs and oversight that were so lacking for the past decade. It won’t be overnight at all.
NY Post, its sister organization Fox News, and the larger conservative movement have a history of making racist attacks on people. This was the latest.
I get that, it just doesn’t apply here at all. That is a very big stretch that not even a lifelong yoga instructor would ever attempt. And it directly contradicts with your complaint that the right uses obscure people like Ted Rall and Ward Churchill to paint liberals with a broad brush. It also directly contradicts with complaints you’ve made when people lump in the black population with a negative isolated incident of one black person. Really, if someone asked me to produce a couple examples of liberal double standards I’d be hard-pressed to find better ones.
As to the stock market, I’m not sure how else I can explain to you expectations theory of stock market investing. I honestly get the impression you don’t really much care if we even have a stock market. I’m not ready to claim that Barack Obama shares that same opinion, but I’m somewhat skeptical at this point.
Dennis, you’ve been flogging the crashing of Wall Street since November 6th, as if it is Obama and Obama alone who is responsible. I don’t buy it. The market is gonna do what the market is gonna do. And I think we can all agree that over the past few months, the free market has shown that it ain’t free.
Time to try something else.
I get that, it just doesn’t apply here at all.
Yes, a cartoon published by the NY Post has nothing to do with the NY Post/Fox News history of racism. Nothing to see here.
I honestly get the impression you don’t really much care if we even have a stock market.
I think the stock market is one measure of the strength of the economy. It’s a dumb measure of overall health, as it is reaction to Obama. Wall Street’s in it for bailouts of their own, not an overall plan to help the American people. Sorry if I don’t think the bonus babies tirade du jour is what to stake the future on.
As far as AP’s polls go, naturally the corporate media is going to publish info supporting a president so devoted to corporate interests. But that’s just the corporate media, which has long since lost all credibility. It doesn’t translate into genuine popular support. Obama’s still on a bit of a honeymoon, but the polls (and blog comments) increasingly show discontent with his endless bailouts and incredibly irresponsible deficits, which are just corporate giveaways in disguise. For instance, comments in the NY Times today on his incredibly misguided housing bailout (another corporate giveaway) were running about 20 to 1 against it. And he’s already committed serious war crimes, and a major impeachable offense by launching attacks against Pakistan. I voted for the guy (twice), but he’s blowing it very badly. Very badly indeed. Unless he changes course very soon, the economy will continue to deteriorate (20% stock decline since he was elected) and the Republicans will be a shoo-in in 2012.
Yes, a cartoon published by the NY Post has nothing to do with the NY Post/Fox News history of racism. Nothing to see here.</i<–OW
How many people do you honestly think had to do with that cartoon?
I think the stock market is one measure of the strength of the economy. It’s a dumb measure of overall health, as it is reaction to Obama.
The stock market isn’t just a bunch of Republican bigots throwing money around in a screaming frenzy. And it’s not just guys like the baby on the E-trade commercial flipping his 20 shares of MSFT. It’s guys like you and me and the deduction from our paycheck that goes to our 401-K’s and IRA’s. It’s the corporate pension funds investments, the mutual funds for all the moms and pops in America, foundations… all kinds of investment institutions that invest on behalf of all Americans, and not just Bill Gates types but everybody. All those institutions are heavily weighted towards cash instruments and bonds for their stability. If they thought this was a good time to get back in like happens frequently after major sell-offs, believe me, money would start flowing back in. The point is, you are incorrect to assume it’s your hated Wall Street Gordon Gecko’s telling us greed is good that alone makes the market go up and down.
I’m not saying it’s Obama’s fault. I’m saying those huge institutional investors are not all that enamored with the stimulus plan that they’ve become convinced that it’s the right antidote to our economy’s ills. And it’s showing in the market indices. Not all of attributed to Obama, but much of it is due to the uncertainty money managers feel will plague us for a long time as we wait for this grand experiment from a guy with a vision but never before been in a position to test his theory to actually play out.
When Obama went to Mesa, AZ, one of the most liberal states in America, kids in high school there were able to verbalize pretty much the exact same thing. I don’t understand why something so obvious and simple is met with so much defensiveness here.
Arizona is one of the most liberal states in America?
Arizona is one of the most liberal states in America? Unenlightened Liberal
I keep forgetting the clueless here who can’t recognize obvious sarcasm. I just assume everyone here who squawk about the Southern Strategy multiple times daily would recognize Arizona as a southern state.
Wrong assumption, obviously.