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George F. Will gives shithead Republican pseudo-intellectuals a bad name.
This is who they are.
Hmm… this game looks like fun.
Obama promised that he would post all bills on the White House web site for three days before signing them… We Checked!
Obama said he opposed the return of the Fairness Doctrine… We Checked!
Obama promised to work towards energy independence… We Checked! (Blocking oil drilling in the West)
Obama promised to end “rendition” and “exceptional interrogations…” We Checked!
Obama promised that lobbyists would play no role in his administration. We Checked!
Gosh, this is fun!
J.
That’s great, J. You wanna start knitting dinner now?
Difference is when Oliver posts a “we checked” segment, Jay Tea, he actually has evidence that he links to that anyone can further check and disagree with if they want to.
J.G.Thayer; “Obama promised that he would post all bills on the White House web site for three days before signing them… We Checked!”
Non-emergency bills.
“Obama promised to work towards energy independence… We Checked! (Blocking oil drilling in the West)”
And he is. He’s just not doing it the way you want. That doesn’t mean he isn’t doing it.
And by the way, drilling off the west coast won’t get you to energy independence. The demand is too high, and there’s ZERO reason to believe giving drilling rights to the oil companies will increase production by one barrel.
“Obama promised to end ‘rendition’ and ‘exceptional interrogations…’ We Checked!”
Extraordinary renditions. He said he would end extraordinary renditions.
And what’s “exceptional interrogations”?
If you can’t get these right, what are the odds you got the others right?
If you can’t get these right, what are the odds you got the others right?
None at all. Ever. But you knew that.
Dear George,
Just write about baseball, d00d
This is triangulation on Will’s part. He came dangerously close to coming out and saying what everyone knows re: Palin is an idiot.
Now he’s trying to make nice with wingnuttia since he’s got eight years to pick on Obama.
He’s basically saying, “Hey! Remember me! I’m a highly regarded conservative intellectual and stuff!”
Oliver has the advantage of being able to post links without worry that they will get hung up in moderation. But I’ll elaborate:
1) Odd how every single bill Obama has signed so far has been an “emergency” measure — including the nigh-trillion-dollar “stimulus” package that is more laden with pork than a Texas deli and was passed several days ago, but has yet to be signed.
2) David Axelrod was all over the Sunday TV shows, refusing to reaffirm Obama’s opposition to the Fairness Doctrine.
3) I was referring to Obama canceling 77 oil and gas leases in Utah in his first days in office.
4) Yes, I mangled my terms. I apologize. But Obama (and his staff) have said that they will, occasionally, continue “extraordinary rendition” and “enhanced interrogation techniques” under exceptional circumstances — a curiously undefined term. In other words, a continuation of the Bush policy.
The theme going around is that we have to remember that obama’s promises all come with expiration dates — we just don’t know when they expire.
And hey, what’s going up with Obama’s Senate successor and the former governor whose campaign Obama worked for back in 2002?
A while ago, I called Obama “Typhoid Barry” because so, so many people around him turn out to be corrupt, incompetent, or just plain scumbags, while he remains untouched. It turns out that I was, if anything, underestimating the situation.
J.
It’s a shame Obama’s popularity has plunged down to 70%.
But please Jay, continue rooting against the economic recovery of America. Because that’s what’s going to bring your Republican party back on top.
Jaim, I’m all in favor of the economic recovery of America. That’s why I opposed the grotesque, bloated, economically ruinous wet French kiss to Democratic constituencies that is laughably called a “stimulus” bill.
Also, feel free to make yourself feel all better about Obama’s poll numbers. I ignore polls; I prefer to make up my own mind about things. You go ahead and go along with the rest of the herd, as the pollster shepherds tell you to.
And “my” Republican party? Wow, it’s all mine? I’m not even a Republican!
Thanks, but no thanks. I don’t particularly like political parties. I don’t belong to any, and I certainly don’t want to own one.
Very generous of you to offer it, though. And almost clever, trying to avoid the specifics with trite phrasing and cute games.
The bill in question was passed four days ago. There was plenty of time for the text to be posted on the White House web site, as Obama promised. Instead, he decided to let it sit unsigned for the holiday weekend so he could have a big photo op today to sign it. I was unaware that “insufficient media coverage” qualified as an “emergency.”
J.
“I’m not even a Republican!”
It’s cute how you keep saying that.
Thanks, Jaim. I’m even cuter than you are when you bend yourself into a pretzel to change the subject to me, instead of the points I raise.
Of course, I have a distinct advantage. Being cuter than a prolapsed asshole like you is not that challenging.
J.
I was referring to Obama canceling 77 oil and gas leases in Utah in his first days in office.
In a fucking National Park!
I prefer to make up my own
mind aboutthings.Fixed.
HA! “Typhoid Barry” makes his triumphant return to OW’s blog! What a fucking joke – haven’t you been shamed into never, ever using that entirely stupid nickname again? Apparently not.
Also, Tea, the surest sign that this stimulus plan is going to help is that you think it won’t. You’re always, always wrong. You’d have a better chance of being right if you consulted an Ouija board.
Jay doesn’t even has own blog any more. On the one hand it sucks because he’ll spew insanity here. On the other hand, he’ll continue to be the comedic gift that keeps on giving.
But seriously guys, lay off of him. He’s not _really_ a Republican. And he’s very cute, as he himself admits.
J.G.Thayer: “Oliver has the advantage of being able to post links without worry that they will get hung up in moderation. But I’ll elaborate:”
You are a fucking idiot.
worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html
There’s a link that won’t get hung up in moderation. I’m quite sure I’ve pointed out how to do this in the past.
In a sane world, a media member would get fired for spreading such dangerous misinformation as that, reinforcing the delusion that climate change is iffy and ‘needs more study.’
Will probably just gets a bonus.
laden with pork than a Texas deli
Pork? In a Texas deli?
That’s so wrong in so many ways.
Strowbridge said to me:
You are a fucking idiot.
When dealing with coding, that’s a title I wear with pride. I’m pretty sure he did mention how to get links to show, but it went right past me.
And I can’t believe I said “Texas deli.” I meant a “Texas barbecue.”
So, with all the foofaraw about me and my various foibles, where’s someone pointing out where I got Obama’s promises (and breaking thereof) wrong?
Oh, and now it turns out that Burris DID agree to raise money for Blagojevich. Ain’t that special? This is, as I understand it, the FOURTH iteration of the “truth” from him about how he got Obama’s old seat.
Just another Chicago Democrat…
J.
You know, “enhanced interrogation techniques” could ostensibly include Debbie Boon’s “You Light Up My Life” being played on a loop for a couple of days. Or reruns of The Facts of Life.
I’d talk.
And while I am no fan of extraordinary rendition, the previous tenant of the White House left some pretty nifty Presidential powers behind. If my goal as President was to kick terrorist assz, I wouldn’t be quick to just toss ‘em all.
And I can’t believe I said “Texas deli.” I meant a “Texas barbecue.”
Texas is beef country, pard. You want pig, you go to Memphis. Or North Carolina.
Or reruns of The Facts of Life.
Monster!
Monster!
That’s how I roll.
J.G.Thayer: “When dealing with coding, that’s a title I wear with pride. I’m pretty sure he did mention how to get links to show, but it went right past me.”
Coding? CODING!
Cut and paste the damn link, just leave out the first part up to the www and the link will post as text. Then we can cut and paste it ourselves. I even gave a random example above, if you can’t follow those simply instructions.
Coding. Good lord.
“So, with all the foofaraw about me and my various foibles, where’s someone pointing out where I got Obama’s promises (and breaking thereof) wrong?”
Already done.
“Oh, and now it turns out that Burris DID agree to raise money for Blagojevich.”
We assumed that, which is why we didn’t want him seated in the first place, and why he will be defeated in the primary.
Jay Tea didn’t even show what he meant by his oil drilling statement (because his computer doesn’t have a CTRL key) and it’s our job to read his mind and tell him how he’s wrong. If it’s oil drilling in Utah, in a National Park that’s keeping us away from energy independence (it’s not) then the United States must have very little need for oil Jay Tea. I grew up in Utah and the national parks that Bush pushed through drilling in shouldn’t be destroyed for a minimal amount of oil.
Will Jay Tea:
1) Admit he was wrong if the stimulus package causes economic recovery?
2) Provide evidence for assertions that he makes?
3) Recognise that if you vote Republican every year and fall hook, line and sinker for a the party’s propaganda that you’re a Republican?
Stay tuned to another exciting comment thread!
“3) Recognise that if you vote Republican every year and fall hook, line and sinker for a the party’s propaganda that you’re a Republican?”
J.G.Thayer is about as independent as Bill O’Reilly.
Obama promised that he would post all bills on the White House web site for three days before signing them… We Checked!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/latest-version-of-schip-legislation-published-for-comment/
I prefer to make up my own mind about things.
Fail.
laden with pork than a Texas deli
On top of being wrong about everything else . . .
South Carolina can keep its shitty pulled pork – in Texas it’s brisket, mofo.
Yay, fafaroo! You proved that Obama didn’t break his promise at EVERY opportunity! Good for you!
Not so good for you, though: Obama didn’t promise to post at least one bill, but all bills.
E for effort.
J.
This is the best you’ve got? Obama isn’t posting bills early enough on the internet?
Your standards for presidential excellence are so high, Jay. What would your opinion be of him if he started and failed to win two different wars? Or if at the end of his eight years in office the unemployment rate was at an all-time high?
I’ll bet you’d be miffed, I bet you would! Let’s pray to Allah this doesn’t happen!
Geez, Jaim, how long are you going to keep rewriting what other say to make your point?
Obama’s promise was to post all non-emergency bills on the internet for four days before signing them.
The “stimulus” bill was such an emergency that he took four days to sign it — but it wasn’t posted for most of that time.
Nobody made Obama make that promise. He chose to, and nobody forced him to break it.
J.
Jay Tea, please provide us with a list of all the bills Obama has signed since he took office.
Fafaroo, I don’t need a complete list, just a single example. But how about four: the stimulus bill (again, it was such an emergency that he let it sit for four days until the holiday weekend was over so he could have the proper
dramaattention for it; the S-CHIP expansion bill, the digital TV conversion delay, and the Ledbetter bill.Now kindly show how each of those were posted for public review before he signed, were each an “emergency” bill that the delay of a few dyas would have caused grave harm, or admit that Obama hasn’t kept his campaign promise.
Of course, feel free to make the argument that nearly every bill Obama signs is an “emergency.” That makes the entire promise utterly empty and pointless.
As predicted.
J.
Now kindly show how each of those were posted for public review before he signed, were each an “emergency” bill that the delay of a few dyas would have caused grave harm, or admit that Obama hasn’t kept his campaign promise.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog_post/update_on_sunlight_before_signing/
Jay Tea, you’re a total jackass.
From fafaroo’s link: Since a few questions have come in, we want to update you on the President’s campaign commitment to introducing more sunlight into the lawmaking process by posting non-emergency legislation online for five days before signing it. This policy will be implemented in full soon; currently we are working through implementation procedures and some initial issues with the congressional calendar.
In other words: once we get these most important bills passed and signed, we’ll get around to implementing it for such crucial matters as National Left-Handed Jockeys Day and other laws of critical import.
J.
In other words: once we get these most important bills passed and signed, we’ll get around to implementing it for such crucial matters as National Left-Handed Jockeys Day and other laws of critical import.
No, Jay Tea. In other words, Obama promised to post bills for public viewing and, since that’s never been done before, there are some logistics that need to be worked but they’re aiming to get the system up and running asap. In the meantime, they’ve posted the actual text of every bill that Obama has signed so far, short the hundreds of pages in the stimulus package, which could easily be defined as emergency legislation.
You really have to be a complete tool to read that post, note that Obma isn’t even a month into his administration and then start screaming “HE BROKE HIS PROMISE!!LIAR!!!”
The stupidest fucking thing here, however, is that above you wrote “WE CHECKED!” when, in fact, you hadn’t checked shit. Certainly not the first place you should have checked which was the White House webpage.
Seriously, Jay Tea. Own up. What exactly did you check, before you posted that comment? Where do you go to conclude that Obama was not and had no plans to fulfill this campaign pledge?