Comments on: Tom Zarek: Never Forget!

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:20:53 +0000

And they’re not clones, they’re models.
Your iphone may be the same model as someone else’s, but they’re not clones.

By: Dave in SoCal

Dave in SoCal — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:05:49 +0000

To me, Point number 4 (The Cylon are mass murderers) seems like it would be the biggest (and likely insurmountable) hurdle to getting the civilian population on board with the alliance. These Cylons are the same ones who just killed billions of their fellow human beings and loved ones with no warning whatsoever just 3 short years ago. How do you get people to get past that basic fact? I don’t think you can. A couple of generations from now? Sure, that would be much easier to do.

Short-term alliance? Possible. And much easier to swallow than a long-term forgive and forget policy.

Still, I enjoyed the mutiny story arc. A lot of edge-of-your-seat action and suspense.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:09:44 +0000

It’s the monotheism that creeps me out.

By: Clancy

Clancy — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:59:53 +0000

Sean, exactly my point. I hate to say this, really I do, but this is not the Borg (Ugh, I’m really crossing the lines on this one). They may be clones, but they’re hardly sharing a collective experience. Not only do they have disagreements, they fight amongst themselves.

Although, I’ll acknowledge that while they were on the base ships at least, models in one particular line did seem to share an identity/opinion. That, or, they communicated with each other very quickly and came to collective decision within the model. . . with the exception of the Sharon that went against her model in the vote that led to the civil war.

By: Sean D. Martin

Sean D. Martin — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:05:12 +0000

OW: Really? They’re all flipping clones of each other!

Hmmm. I must have dreamed the parts where Three agreed to be killed by Six, Cavil agreed to be killed by Three and the opposing Cylon factions all got together in a group hug.

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:23:26 +0000

The show has demonstrated time and again that this simply isn’t the case.
Really? They’re all flipping clones of each other!

By: Clancy

Clancy — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:05:55 +0000

This argument assumes that the Cylons are a monolithic entity in which the parts are always in agreement. The show has demonstrated time and again that this simply isn’t the case. Heck, they even appear to vote on decisions before making them. This alone indicates that a minority viewpoint is possible.

What is more, the Colonials are not entering in to a long term alliance with the rebel Cylons, but an alliance of convenience to both sides. Zarek was little more than a murderous thug who used the (understandable) anxieties of the masses to seize power.

Besides, if Cylons look like humans, act like humans, and can produce viable offspring with humans, doesn’t that pretty much make them human?

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:09:33 +0000

You, Farley, and Yglesias are a bunch of racists. We cylons are no different than you. Just as fickle, just as self-interested, only slightly more plugged in to technology (just wait a few years, you’ll catch up). Plus, we can really die now (maybe-probably not); hence, our lives are meaningful.

By: DJShay

DJShay — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:24:49 +0000

But that’s the beauty of the show. It would be decidedly more boring if it was always the Galactica against the Cylons with clear cut good and bad guys. It creates a fascinating story line.

By: KXB

KXB — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:54:17 +0000

Richard Hatch, the actor who played Tom Zarek, actually got involved in a blog over at The Chicago Tribune, to defend his character.

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2009/02/battlestar-galactica-gaeta-blood-scales-angeli/comments/page/2/#comments