Comments on: I Just Can’t Get The Lack Of Black Republicans

By: GF

GF — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:59:20 +0000

RE: I Just Can’t Get The Lack Of Black Republicans

No sure but I’ll guess :
Opting to become a “volunteer slave catcher” , just ain’t an easy row to hoe.

By: Bruce Henry

Bruce Henry — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:04:41 +0000

Don’t leave me hangin’!

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:14:14 +0000

Terrorist Fist Jab.

By: Bruce Henry

Bruce Henry — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:53:42 +0000

I know I must be ignernt as hell, but what does TFJ stand for? I see it all the time.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:19:37 +0000

Nice use of the word shibboleth, there, Bruce. TFJ.

By: Bruce Henry

Bruce Henry — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:12:22 +0000

Hey, notbuyingperson:
Why so angry?
Only one person here said that state’s rights had a leetle teeny bit to do with it. The rest, not so much. My point, anyway, is that a hundred years later the authorities in the South were still selling the state’s rights snake oil.
Jump to conclusions much?

By: Bruce

Bruce — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:06:03 +0000

What the others said about “states’ rights” as a shibboleth for slavery and slavery alone. The state declarations of secession made this explicitly clear as well. It wasn’t about cotton tariffs or about states’ rights to regulate the price of tea on Tuesdays.

As for Northern Aggression, the U.S. garrison at Fort Sumter didn’t attack itself; Confederate forces assaulted the U.S. forces with live fire.

By: Porlock Junior

Porlock Junior — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:34:45 +0000

Since we all know that it was not really about states’ rights rather than slavery, there are more interesting questions than whether it was totally over slavery rather than s. r. So I think, anyway.

The one that bemuses me is this: What was the states’ rights issue even supposed to be?? Telling the South how to run itself? Sheeit, does anybody imagine the Congress was about to pass a law outlawing slavery? What kind of idiots are involved here? It took Lincoln two years of war to get around to outlawing slavery in the Treason States! When the North had nominally won and could pass what laws it wanted, even then it didn’t pass an Act of Congress to stop slavery; those moderate law-abiding folks agree that it took a real live Amendment.

In 1860 when Lincoln won the election, the North was obliged to send escaped slaves back to slavery! Wow, poor poor downtrodden South; I understand there were even people in Northern states who didn’t actively cooperate with that obligation!

So WTF were they afraid of? A sudden vote by 3/4 of the states to do what all the Southern states hated? Right.

I’m not kidding here — well, about my sympathy for the downtrodden slave masters, yes I am — and would like to see the pseudo-legitimate states’ rights issues explained.

By: Not buying your history white-washing

Not buying your history white-washing — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:40:20 +0000

Oh, God, you stupid people who believe states' rights had anything to do with it. You've never actually read the Confederate constitution, have you? Slavery was specifically and explicitly written into said constitution. The right of states to do away with it was specifically and explicitly taken away. States' rights my ass. Go sell that to somebody ignorant. Oh, wait.

By: Zardozinhell

Zardozinhell — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:01:49 +0000

When some clown brings up that “it’s the party of Lincoln”, I remind them that all of those folks in the party at that time are long dead and that Lincoln would not recognize the Republican Party today.

I doubt that even Goldwater or Nixon would.

By: Bruce Henry

Bruce Henry — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:58:06 +0000

I apologise for saying the art was by Frazetta. I just googled ‘em, and it wasn’t. Kind of in that style, but not nearly as good. Seemed really cool to me as a 10-year old whitetrash boy in 1964.

By: Bruce Henry

Bruce Henry — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:26:02 +0000

Yeah, Sean, I know. But the message they wanted us to get was that the South was “defending her way of life” and was forced into war by Northern bullies mad for power, kinda like them outside agitators who were a-comin’ down here stirrin’ up our nigras.

And Duros, they WERE pretty cool, but very gory. I vividly remember one, about the Battle of the Wilderness, that depicted a Union soldier being attacked by a very large gator.

By: Sean D. Martin

Sean D. Martin — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:31:43 +0000

Bruce Henry: We were taught that it wasn’t really about slavery, but the taking away of “states’ rights.” I’m serious.

But states rights was a large part of it. Not the sole reason for the conflict, there’s never just one reason for a war, and slavery was certainly the leading issue that caused several states to secede. But an underlying objection was to other states and the federal government telling states what they could do, and the slavery issue was the most visible manifestation of that.

By: Parthenon

Parthenon — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:22:46 +0000

I mean, they’re still calling the Civil War the war of “northern aggresion”!

B-b-b-but the Repubs are the party of Lincoln!

Heh.

By: Duros62

Duros62 — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:36:33 +0000

The art was by Frazetta.

Those must have been pretty cool. Still Treason in Defense of Slavery, but cool art.

By: Bendra

Bendra — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:33:06 +0000

And as for the 3 or so Blacks laying claim to Republican membership, we can charge that off to the low end of the Curve. Thankfully, most of us have healthy attitudes.

By: I'm a Hick

I'm a Hick — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:20:43 +0000

I grew up in Louisiana, and it was always the Civil War.

Growing up, a favorite great-uncle was Uncle A.L. Came to realize later, of course, that stood for Abraham Lincoln.

By: Bruce Henry

Bruce Henry — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:00:26 +0000

Me too, Quaker. In school the teachers called it “The War Between the States.” We were taught that it wasn’t really about slavery, but the taking away of “states’ rights.” I’m serious.
From 1961-1965, we “celebrated” the Civil War Centennial. I remember we collected Civil War trading cards like basesball cards. The art was by Frazetta.

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:46:23 +0000

When I was a youngster in the South, I heard the phrase “War of Northern Aggression” just a few times. I always thought it was just folks acting the fool.

I didn’t realize they serious.

By: jr

jr — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:12:15 +0000

Hal Turner has a posse in the GOP