Congratulations, you just admitted to being a troll.

Now fuck off, you asshole.

It’s funny how you being completely fucking wrong is supposed to raise my estrogen level.

By the way, nice bit of sexism there.

“Actually, not according to you. To you, from the way you post here, those two things are one and the same. Because not one person who posts here to my knowledge comes on advocating creationism or intelligent design, or the Southern Strategy.”

Two point…

1.) I was bringing up creationism, intelligent design and, the Southern Strategy an examples. I was not accusing anyone here of supporting them.

2.) I can’t believe I have to explain #1 to you. It’s like your can read just as well as you can count.

By the way, the GOP leadership using the Southern Strategy to win elections. If you support the GOP, you support the Southern Strategy.

I’m going to say I agree with most of what you’ve said, or that I don’t disagree too much. Just wanted to say that I was being a little on the glib side when I made the comment about conservatives being more tolerant- only purpose was to get a rise out of the more fire-breathing posters here among us, mainly because of their intolerance. The gated-community thing was a bit glib too, and I wish I hadn’t said it. Biggest mistake of my life moving in to one 5 years ago; realized that about 3 months in to it too. Just no bid for the house right now, and if there was a decent one, I’d move in to the city among the unwashed (kidding) with no front yard to take care of so people who think they are upper crust have a place to let their dogs crap without thinking they’re supposed to clean up after them. Those are the libbies I was talking about.

Dennis, you’re wrong about what you claim to know. I wouldn’t disagree that people should be judged based on the opinions they hold and not those attributed to some larger group they may belong to. (That’s how I’m reading your comment. I don’t think it’s an inaccurate re-phrasing.) That said, you’re the one who started with “we” are more tolerant, etc and “liberals” as a group think differently, that all the “libbies” in your neighborhood are not nice people.

Is the broad brush okay only when you use it?

There are, of course, exceptions that can be found to any generalization. There are liberals who are self-righteous, utterly convinced of the moral superiority of their cause and quite willing to shout down other opinions while claiming they fervently believe in freedom of speech. There are conservatives who are tolerant and charitable and who donate to the Innocence Project and ACLU.

But on the whole (yes, making a general statement) it’s the right that has been more opposed to gay rights, has called dissent unpatriotic, has been more willing to pass harsh laws, to prohibit the reexamination of exculpatory evidence and to execute those with low IQs and has chosen to live in gated communities like yours. It’s an opinion we differ on, perhaps, and, as is always the case with opinions, neither side can be conclusively shown to be correct. But I’ll wager any examples you could provide of conservatives being tolerant, understanding, forgiving and not indicting innocents for the opinions of others could be far outnumbered by examples of them doing just the opposite.

When I teased you about your comic book fetish, I really had no idea it might raise your estrogen levels to the danger zone. If it’s causing a slight mustache or hair on your nipples, then I am very sorry, I didn’t mean to cause such distress.
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There’s a difference between thinking differently, and being wrong. — C.S.Sturbridge

Actually, not according to you. To you, from the way you post here, those two things are one and the same. Because not one person who posts here to my knowledge comes on advocating creationism or intelligent design, or the Southern Strategy. Yet you lump everyone in to that category as you squawk unintelligibly with every post. You are guilty of the same stereotyping you think is germane to only one political party. It’s not that you can’t differentiate between people who are conservative and don’t believe in those things, it’s just that you refuse to.
You really aren’t in much of a position of righteousness when you give people the high hat here. But for some mysterious reason, a few people give you hero status here.

There’s a difference between thinking differently, and being wrong.

It is not intolerant to say, “Creationism and Intelligent design is bullshit and has no place in science class.”

It is also not intolerant to say, “The Southern Strategy is racist and has no place in politics.”

You see, we are not attacking the GOP because they are different, we are attacking them on the substance of those differences.

I know it’s hard to understand, especially for someone who thinks 3 is most of 9, but try.

Maybe, I’ll concede that. Conservatives do things like that a lot more subtly and are much less vocal, granted. I know you’ll disagree, but that tolerance and willingness to stand up for the innocent that you attribute more to liberals should also apply to those who think different politically than they do, especially those that are innocent of all the horrid things commenters here attribute to the party and by conjecture anyone who has ever voted Republican or even believes in conservatism.

I would venture to guess many here were disgusted by the Republican inferences of guilt by association with all the shady characters Barack Obama had dealings with in his past. Defended it to the core of your being. Yet you (many here, not you, per se) practice guilt by association every single day here. And if you’re black and have exercised your right to choose a political philosophy or political candidate not of the same party as yours, well then you guys call that person a sell-out.

East is east and west is west, I know, but I’ll never understand that line of reasoning. Or how you can call yourselves tolerant.

Fair enough. I wouldn’t dream of commenting on the views you find within your confined community. (Other than to wonder how much tolerance they can really show, behind those gates and all.)

But in the wider world, I’m quite certain that (while there certainly are individual exceptions) far more examples could be shown of those on the left demonstrating more tolerance, understanding and a willingness to stand up for the innocent than of those on the right.

…Although it’s amazing that a black was elected President, it’s ironic that Obama’s leftist policies are likely to hurt the very people he claims to want to help.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness – “unalienable rights” cited by our Founding Fathers in the Declaration of Independence – can only be achieved through personal responsibility and self-reliance.
Unfortunately, the “We” in Obama’s “Yes We Can!” literally means collectivism and a statist government that stifles our liberties.
I’d rather endorse a “Yes I Can!” philosophy. I think those who came before me would agree.

What’s not to like about that?

I think I’m in love.

OW, if she googles herself tonight and happens to stumble upon this, you have my permission to release my email address to her.

So I guess that explains the flattering picture of Deneen Borelli that if you didn’t know better you’d think she was Miss America or something, and then ripping her to shreds in the commentary.

In all seriousness, have you ever tried to post an opposing viewpoint on a Con site like LGF or Confederate Yankkkee, Hot Air or Ace O’ Spades?

Opposing views have a very short life span.

It is more interesting here because Oliver doesn’t do that, i.e. moderate with an iron fist.

Conservatives where I work, golf and say hello to out walking my dogs in my gated community, yes. The libbies in my suburb are not nice people. But don’t get me started.

This is a great sight.– Zardozinhell

Zardoz- You only respond to people here you disagree with, and usually you tell them to go away. Did you ever consider that it’s possible one reason why you think this is a great site is that opposing viewpoints aren’t quickly banished to the liberal blog Recycle Bin, like a lot of others? So that guys like you have a place to go to to tell guys like me to go F themselves.

You don’t have to possess a formitable “intellect” to get that, ya know.

And we even try our best to get liberals to think that way too.

Do you really want to suggest that in general conservatives have been more tolerant, unwilling to indict innocents and etc than liberals? Really?

With the Southern Strategy, opposition to things like the Innocence Project and characters like Rush Limbaugh as their standard carrier, you really want to try to make that argument?

Apple? Meet Orange.

And we even try our best to get liberals to think that way too.

Is that one of your jokes, Dennis? ‘Cuz if you’re serious, it don’t seem very tolerant.

Unless you’re a Log Cabin Republican. Then it’s FABulous.

1. Making excuses for why they vilify (or exploit) their own.

2. They regurgitate the talking points of the group that has historically victimized their group.

3. They hate their heritage and their skin but deny that they in spite of their actions to the contrary.

I’m sure many of you here can name more.

Ms. Borelli, to her shame, has all of these flaws.

And to those here that have such “high expectations” when blogging here, check yourself, your “intellect” is not nearly as formitable as you imagine it is.

This is a great sight.

Thanks Oliver.

And we even try our best to get liberals to think that way too.

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy.”

Even someone who would say something like that can be forgiven.

SaveFarris: there’s that key phrase “widely viewed”. Not conclusively proven: just suggested by a casual survey of hand-selected self-appointed “leaders” who oppose said policies simply for being conservative irrespective of it’s effect on the black population is as a whole.

Well, duh. I used the term “widely viewed” deliberately, specifically because you will always find a variety of opinions and be able to point to someone in a group who doesn’t hold whatever view you’re ascribing to that group.

But, a reasonably impartial person who steps back and looks at the policies and practices of the Republican party and the conservative right, if honest, would have to concede that they are not a group that is interested in helping blacks and actually quite the contrary in many respects.

And in this specific case, a reasonable person would look at the comments and positions of Deneen Borelli and say she’s not talking sense. That she’s flat out, demonstrably wrong (ACORN), misinformed (Wright) and/or pushing an agenda (S. 2191).