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Townhall.com’s Amanda Carpenter tries to fit a thought in her head and comes to a conclusion as to why there’s already research out on Michael Steele.

Steele clearly got the Dems scared.

Here’s the thing: There was a chance the RNC would elect a new chairman who is competent and had a vision to lead the party into the future. In other words, a figure like Howard Dean who took the Democratic party out of the wilderness and took us back onto the path where we now have the House, Senate, and most importantly, the White House. Instead they chose Michael Steele. Michael Steele is best known for never being elected to an office on his own, losing by double digits in a race that should have been much closer, and in that race smiling at an endorsement by a convicted rapist and pretending to be a member of the Democratic party (going so far as to distribute leaflets with that misinformation and distributing lawn signs with same).

Steele just ran 3 years ago, so there’s a lot of opposition research out there. Why wouldn’t we put it back out there? I for one can’t wait to go back to Steele’s lies about oreos being thrown at him.

The GOP could have halted their slide, instead they picked a guy who is good on tv but has no vision likely to bring them back from being a mostly white male regional party (I’m sure they think Steele being black will attract black voters – this would be laughable in the past, but in the era of President Obama it is a howler).

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86 Responses to “Oh You Fools”

  1. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    “Steele clearly got the Dems scared.”

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    Steele ran in 2006, and he practically ran as a Democrat.

    “Steele Democrats”

    Remember that?

  2. C.S.Strowbridge:
    Amanda Carpenter memory doesn’t go that far back. Her memory only goes as far back as January 2007(Meaning once those evil libruls took over).

  3. Randy Brown says:

    Sad fact of life is, Sambo was the LEAST offensive of the RNC Candidates.

    And yes, wingnut trolls, I called him “Sambo,” ’cause that’s precisely what he is. You don’t like it? Tough schidt.

  4. ed says:

    Hank Kingsley.

  5. Jaim says:

    Will Rush play the “Magic Negro” song for Steele as well?

    And I’d forgotten about the Steele lawn signs. Dude was trying to present himself as a Democrat.

    Republicans: UR DOIN IT WRONG

  6. Tyro says:

    The funny thing is that Randy is right: mock Steele if you must, but he was better than all of his competitors. Steele fans can take that as a compliment if it makes them feel better about their plight.

  7. Brian Griffin says:

    the oreos! they are thick like locusts!

  8. jr says:

    A compulsive lair was elected RNC chairman. Par for the mouth-breather course

  9. Laura Roslin says:

    In the GOP minds, Michael Steele is to Barack Obama as Sarah Palin is to Hillary Clinton.

  10. Jay Tea says:

    Oh, please.

    Here’s the thing: There was a chance the RNC would elect a new chairman who is competent and had a vision to lead the party into the future. In other words, a figure like Howard Dean who took the Democratic party out of the wilderness and took us back onto the path where we now have the House, Senate, and most importantly, the White House.

    Like who?

    Admit it, Oliver — you had this article written out before the voting started. You’d have said the same no matter who won; you just had to grab the appropriate Media Matters opposition research file and plug in the particulars about the winning candidate.

    I defy you to name a Republican who you would NOT have written this article about.

    Funnily enough, there are parallels that can be drawn between Dean and Steele. Both were state-level politicians who were elected Chairman after losing an election to vault to the national stage — and in Dean’s case, after a spectacularly self-destructive performance.

    J.

    Note to self: “Sambo” and “House Negro” are now apparently part of the acceptable lexicon at this site. Expand potential vocabulary accordingly.

  11. Parthenon says:

    Funnily enough, there are parallels that can be drawn between Dean and Steele.

    That connection is extraordinarily tangential. Dean has won elections, was by almost any measure an excellent governor, was an early front-runner for his party’s presidential nomination and proved to be an exceptional strategist. Steele… well, which of those apply?

    If he leads them successfully back to respectability, I’ll be the first to proclaim him the GOP’s Bill Parcells. I just don’t see it.

  12. midderpidge says:

    We’ve come to a new day when JayTea admits he can’t name a competent Republican with vision.

  13. Randy Brown says:

    Thayer: “Note to self: “Sambo” and “House Negro” are now apparently part of the acceptable lexicon at this site.”

    The truth hurts…doesn’t it?

  14. Jay Tea says:

    Only in the sense that such epithets wound all of us, Randy Browneye. I’m not the target, I’m not part of the targeted class.

    Personally, I appreciate your using them. It makes it so much easier to identify you as a racist asshole who’s not worth the two seconds it would take to dismantle your pathetic little tirades.

    J.

  15. Jaim says:

    Jay — Who would you consider to be the future of your Republican party? Honest question.

  16. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    “Who would you consider to be the future of your Republican party? Honest question.”

    I’d like to hear that as well.

  17. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    J.G.Thayer: “Admit it, Oliver — you had this article written out before the voting started.”

    He could write it before the vote, because none of the final choices were competent.

  18. IanY77 says:

    I remember August doing a comic a while back (”Fear Factors”) where he mentioned Amanda’s tactic: If you oppose insane right wing ideas, you’re “afraid” of them. It’s not that they’re really bad ideas, you’re just terrified of their awesomness. I do wonder how GOPers heads don’t explode, sometimes. I certainly couldn’t think the way they do and survive.

  19. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    J.G.Thayer: “Only in the sense that such epithets wound all of us, Randy Browneye. I’m not the target, I’m not part of the targeted class.”

    On a side note, Mr. Thayer, the person Steele was head-to-head with in the end said he got into politics at age 15 when his school was desegregated and he wanted to fight back. After he announced his candidacy for the leader of the RNC, he had to drop his membership in a whites only country club.

    This man was the second choice of leader of the RNC. The fact that someone so racist came that close to becoming the leader of a major party is stunning.

    So perhaps instead of complaining about Randy Brown, you should look at your own party. After all, which is more damaging, a commenter on a blog, or party leadership?

  20. Randy Brown says:

    Thank you, CSS.

    Meanwhile…from a post on the WaPo comments page:

    “When the GOP – a regional party with a dwindling base in the deep Confederate South and a few Mormon states of the Rockies – has a messy cleanup job to do, who do they hire?

    “A magic Negro!”

    It would be dandy if Steele’s ascension results in a GOP schism…

  21. Jay Tea says:

    Strowbridge, the RNC isn’t likely to listen to me. I’m not even a registered Republican. But your description of Steele’s rival sounds vaguely familiar… remind me, who’s the Democratic President Pro Tem currently?

    And “tu quoque” is not a defense, it’s a confession. “At least our asshole isn’t as big an asshole as your asshole is” is a woeful statement.

    Browneye here reminds me that “racism,” to liberals, is something that can never happen against conservatives, no matter their ethnic origins. It’s perfectly fine to call Michael Steele, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas and Condoleezza Rice “house Negroes” (or, more historically accurately, “house niggers”), to make all kinds of anti-Asian slams against Michelle Malkin, and to make anti-Indian slurs against Bobby Jindal, because they’re not “authentic” minorities. Only liberal minorities deserve any sort of protection against racism.

    Thanks, Browneye. You’re the living embodiment of what my mother used to say: “Everyone has a purpose in life — if even only as a bad example.”

    J.

  22. midderTea says:

    That would be Rush Limbaugh, guys. Everything the republican party stands for, competence, moral fiber, and vision. Rush, your party needs you.

  23. Scott_api says:

    Did Rush go on air, and declare that Blackwell dropping out of the race for RNC Chair and declaring for Steele ‘All About Race’? I was curious about that.

    On a more serious note… I have to disagree with most of you here; Steele should have the Democrats scared. He pisses off the RedStaters because he works with folks like Christy Todd Whitman. Bad for the old guard of the GOP, good for the long-term prospects of the party. He is willing to work with Moderates in his party, as opposed to pushing them out (see Club for Growth vs. Gilchrest). If Steele is able to drag to far right of the GOP into the 21st century, then the GOP ’s time in the wilderness will be much abbreviated. That can arguably be good for the country (equal parties forced to compromise to govern, etc. etc.) but not necessarily good for the Democrats new-found supremacy.

  24. Jaim says:

    Jay — Who would you consider to be the future of your Republican party? Honest question.

  25. Jesse Ewiak says:

    I would think Michael Steele was an idiot whether he was black, white, or brown. I would think Michelle Malkin was a crazy bitch whether she was black, white, brown, or indeed, male or female. I would think Piyush Jindal was a extremist Christianist whether he was black, white, brown as long as he continued to believe in exorcism.

    But yes, if you’re perfectly OK with believing in an ideology that would’ve worked to keep you from voting less than forty years ago and probably still speak ill of you in certain country clubs , then I think you’re a traitor, just like the Vichy French were traitors to the French people, the Roundheads were traitors to the English people, and native supporters of colonists were traitors to their own people.

  26. Jesse Ewiak says:

    Also, Robert Byrd does more for African-Americans every other Tuesday than Republicans have done since the beginning of the Southern Strategy.

  27. Scott_api says:

    That should read “…drag THE far right of the GOP…”

    Even with comment preview, I still manage to frak it up…

  28. fafaroo says:

    OW: “There was a chance the RNC would elect a new chairman who is competent and had a vision …”

    JAY TEA: Like who?

    RFLMAO. Nice to know that even a hack like Jay Tea recognizes that there are no more competent Republicans with any kind of vision.

  29. Jay Tea says:

    Jaim, thanks again for reaffirming that you’re either terminally stupid or terminally dishonest. Or, possibly, both.

    I said:

    I’m not even a registered Republican.

    And Jaim responds to that with:

    Jay — Who would you consider to be the future of your Republican party? Honest question.

    I like the little “honest question” at the end. It’s kind of like the maraschino cherry on a fundamentally flawed, dishonest question to begin with.

    I’m not a Republican, so I have no say in the RNC Chairman race.

    Now, an honest question in return: was your question prompted by your inability to read what I wrote, your self-confessed tendency to ignore what I write and instead pretend I said what you’d want me to say, your inability to understand what I wrote, or sheer stupidity?

    And yes, “all of the above” would be an acceptable answer.

    J.

  30. ed says:

    I’m not a Republican,

    You just play on on the Internets.

    Anyhizzle, the question doesn’t require any party affiliation to be answered, dipshit.

  31. Jay Tea says:

    Ed, it was a fundamentally dishonest question. Jaim said “your” Republican party.

    I don’t follow Republican politics close enough to have an opinion on such inside baseball as who should be RNC Chair. I’m just amused watching how some people who are so rabidly anti-Republican as Oliver and Jaim and Randy and Strowbridge are stumbling all over themselves to slam and denounce whoever the GOP put in the top seat.

    J.

  32. wÒÓ† says:

    Jay Tea still needs to explain why he hates Mexicans.

  33. Jay Tea says:

    Woot, when you prove I do, then I’ll think about answering.

    I ain’t holding my breath, asswipe.

    And I wonder if Howard Dean still feels this way?

    “You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room?,” Dean asked to laughter. “Only if they had the hotel staff in here.”

    J.

  34. ed says:

    Ed, it was a fundamentally dishonest question. Jaim said “your” Republican party.

    Jeezus, stop being such a pussy and answer the fucking question. Why are you Republicans such pussies? Why can’t you answer simple questions instead of reverting to the George Bush Junior/Sarah Palin bullshittery of “ooh, that’s, like, a totally bogus question, and I’m, like, so not answering it.” Fuck man, who do think is the future of the Republican party (the one with which you seem to agree the vast majority of the time)?

  35. wÒÓ† says:

    I ain’t holding my breath, asswipe.

    Jay, you don’t need to get uncivil about this.

    It’s not like I’m Mexican or something.

  36. Jay Tea says:

    ed, you really can’t read, either, can you?

    I don’t follow Republican politics close enough to have an opinion on such inside baseball as who should be RNC Chair.

    As for the future of the GOP… I think that there are aspects of several former presidential candidates that have tremendous merit. Palin, Giuliani, Thompson, Romney… all have seriously positive qualities that could serve their party and the nation.

    The future of the Democrats? I’d like to see a bit more pragmatism, a bit more sanity, and a touch of integrity. The purging of the “impure” and the protecting of the corrupt has, unfortunately, proven profitable, and will likely continue for some time.

    J.

  37. JadeGold says:

    JayIDTea is playing an old, old game. He claims he isn’t a Repug, doesn’t follow the RNC, etc., etc.

    Of course, for someone who doesn’t toe the partyline, he parrots their talking points almost word-for-word. It’s a dodge; it’s schtick.

    The truth is JayIDTea understands the GOP bench is really short these days. He invested so much in Bush Jr. and when the US repudiated W en masse–JayIDTea doesn’t have a clue as to who has been untainted by Rove’s boy.

    It really is a tough question to answer; there doesn’t seem to be anyone on the Repug side who is capable of offering fresh direction or new ideas. And, frankly, the conservative base–like JayIDTea– is still in the denial phase. They believe their hero, GWB, failed because he wasn’t conservative enough.

    That’s why leadership of the GOP has fallen to a drug-addled, sex tourist talk show host. They don’t have anyone else.

  38. Jay Tea says:

    You made an accusation, Woot. One with no proof.

    I rejected it, absolutely, and tossed in an insult to express a bit of contempt.

    You can man up and offer some proof, admit you were just being an asshole and making shit up, or just pretend you never said it.

    I’m betting on the third. It’s the chicken-shit way.

    J.

  39. Jaim says:

    Jay, did you vote for McCain? Pretty sure you did. So glad you aren’t registered as a Republican, but please — you’re about as Republican as they get.

    But at least you finally answered my question. Thompson? Fail. Palin? Mega-fail. Giuliani? LOL. Romney?

    Indeed, a moderate-left former governor of MA, on record as being pro-choice and for instituting a mandatory law that requires all people to have health insurance, is probably your best bet.

    Which is to say, the future of the Republican party is to steer hard to the left, because that’s where most Americans are.

    Thanks again for playing!

  40. ed says:

    Of course, for someone who doesn’t toe the partyline, he parrots their talking points almost word-for-word. It’s a dodge; it’s schtick.

    It’s because, as a modern Republican, Jay Tea’s a chickenshit pussy. That’s the other word for it.

  41. Jaim says:

    Take it easy on Jay. He’s posting comments from Iraq. Or was it Afghanistan?

  42. wÒÓ† says:

    You can man up and offer some proof, admit you were just being an asshole and making shit up, or just pretend you never said it.

    I have to wonder if you have the same reactions to Cubans that you do to Mexicans.

    I mean, they’re fleeing the Castro regime and they make wonderful dishes with plantains. Let’s cut them some slack.

  43. Tyro says:

    Jay Tea is entering the late-stages of terminal Republican dejection. For now he’s resorted to the “I’m not a Republican” dodge ["I just mindlessly repeat and slavishly devote myself to their talking points"]. Eventually we’ll hear how he “isn’t that into politics” and “all politicians are crooks.”

  44. fafaroo says:

    You can man up and offer some proof, admit you were just being an asshole and making shit up, or just pretend you never said it.

    Priceless.

  45. Duros62 says:

    pretending to be a member of the Democratic party (going so far as to distribute leaflets with that misinformation and distributing lawn signs with same).

    Richard Wolf on Countdown last night says that makes him a moderate. Not sure how that works.

    OW: “There was a chance the RNC would elect a new chairman who is competent and had a vision …”

    JAY TEA: Like who?

    *cough* Sarah Palin *cough*

  46. Jay Tea says:

    Man, I haven’t seen this many gibbering, drooling subliterates since the last time I stopped by a hospital nursery.

    1) I challenged Oliver to name a GOP chairman who he would NOT immediately label “worst choice ever.” This article was hackery of the highest order; he had it all planned out, long before any voting was held, and just plugged in the details.

    2) Yes, I voted for McCain in 2008. And in 2004, I voted for Bush and Republican Charlie Bass for Congress. I also voted for Democrats John Lynch and Doris Haddock. In 2006, I voted for Lynch a second time.

    3) Woot, I’m not going to chase you around while you keep making up bullshit accusations of racism. Put up or shut up, fuckwit.

    4) Amazing how whenever I start scoring points in arguments, it suddenly all becomes about me. Nothing like “shooting the messenger” to help the messenger realize that the message is not welcome.

    5) If Jaim actually has a high school diploma, he ought so sue for malpractice. Or have his guardians sue. I said that I had no real interest in who was the RNC, then mentioned that four people had good points. Apparently Jaim (who has the remarkable ability to see only what he wishes he saw, and not anything resembling reality) took that as an endorsement of any or all of them.

    Palin took on corruption in her own party and won. She also achieved some very notable things in her tenure as governor. She has a record of accomplishment.

    Thompson has the ability to articulate his principles very clearly, and is unabashed about stating them. He is also very candid and plain-spoken — when he tells you something, it is refreshingly free of Clintonesque weasel-wording.

    Giuliani understands leadership, especially in times or crisis, and knows how to take charge of a situation and get things done.

    Romney was a very successful businessman, understands markets and the like, and had to deal with a legislature that was so overwhelmingly Democratic that on any given day 20% of them could stay home and they could STILL override his vetoes.

    Yeah, they all also have flaws. Big shit. I wasn’t talking about them as ideals, merely recognizing that they all have strengths.

    Of course, this all does wonders for getting others off the hook. Oliver doesn’t have to say who might have been a good choice for Republicans. Randy doesn’t have to be called out for using racial epithets. And the rest can all ignore Randy’s blatant racism (that’s what it looks like, Woot — take notes and learn) and instead engage in a circle-jerk.

    Glad to be of service.

    J.

  47. Jadegold says:

    Giuliani’s leadership? Thompson’s principles?

    Hahahahaha.

    Look, JayIDTea, Dems shouldn’t be telling you who your RNC leader ought to be. This Dem only wishes the GOP was consigned to the landfill.

    And I may get my wish with Steele.

    I can recall when Steele was head of the MD GOP. There was a Dem Rep. name of Albert Wynn (a crook, liar, thug) that was ripe for picking off if the GOP could have picked a semi-decent candidate. So who did Steele get? John Kimble–whose sole message was that Wynn had married a white woman.

  48. Jay Tea says:

    Oh, how cute. JadeGoldenShower is still calling me “Intelligent Design.” Even though I have NEVER said a single thing in favor of it, even though I no longer blog alongside aomeone who might have, even though I think that most of the ID crowd are just trying to shoehorn their religion into the argument, JadeGoldenShower still wants to hang that on me.

    Jaim, I’m sorry. I thought you were the first to simply make up stupid shit and insist others play along with your delusions about me. JadeGoldenShower has you beat by at least a year or two.

    J.

  49. wÒÓ† says:

    Jay, I think you really need to apologize to everyone here.

  50. Duros62 says:

    Man, somebody’s cranky today.

  51. ed says:

    even though I no longer blog alongside aomeone who might have

    That’s some high, high unintentional comedy right there. We’re talking Rickey Henderson territory.

  52. Jadegold says:

    You’d be cranky too if your political party that you’re not really a part of but seem to repeat their talking points faithfully just put another loser at the helm.

    Really, JayIDTea, you need to apologize to mankind.

  53. fafaroo says:

    Amazing how whenever I start scoring points in arguments, it suddenly all becomes about me.

    RFLMAO!Double priceless.

  54. Jay Tea says:

    You’re right, Woot. I apologize for thinking there might be signs of intelligent debate here. I missed the “feces-flinging monkeys ahead.”

    J.

  55. wÒÓ† says:

    Now you’re just being insensitive.

  56. Jay Tea says:

    I extend a further apology to feces-flinging monkeys. It was an unfair comparison.

    J.

  57. Randy Brown says:

    Thayer has been our official piñata since last Nov. 4, and he’s starting to get (even more) brain-damaged. That’s the only plausible explanation for his recent behavior. Looks like I need to resurrect the “Fling. Whirr. SPLAT!!” thingy, as he is the only person around here who’s slinging shit.

    BTW, Jay, I happen to be black. I can tell you with authority that Sambo Steele is almost universally disliked in our community. I’m far, FAR from the only one calling him those names, fool.

  58. Randy Brown says:

    Also…about Steele’s wanting to “spar with” Obama. Steele vs. Obama would be the same as Stepin Fetchit vs. John Shaft.

    Ya damn right!

  59. wÒÓ† says:

    How do you feel about Puerto Ricans?

  60. Jay Tea says:

    OK, Randy, I get it. There are different rules for differnt people. You can use racially-charged language but I can’t, based not on ideology but on skin color.

    Gimme that old-time segregation…

    J.

  61. Jay Tea says:

    Woot, make it worth my time, and I’ll take your little poll. Come up with the green, and we’ll talk.

    J.

  62. fafaroo says:

    I apologize for thinking there might be signs of intelligent debate here.

    Jay Tea, one of the first things you need for intelligent debate is a solid grasp of the facts. You have never shown any kind of concern for actual, real facts which is why you prefer arguments that begin with fact-free, entirely subjective, speculative statements like this:

    Admit it, Oliver — you had this article written out before the voting started. You’d have said the same no matter who won; you just had to grab the appropriate Media Matters opposition research file and plug in the particulars about the winning candidate.

    I defy you to name a Republican who you would NOT have written this article about.

    This is not a thesis statement not worthy of the term “debate” let alone “intelligent debate”.

    There is no answer Oliver could have been given that couldn’t have been countered with any equally fact freem subjective response.

    What if Oliver had answered: “Jeb Bush”

    Would you have responded, “Oh, yes, of course. Now he would have been a good chair.”

    Well, Jay Tea, let’s not even bother speculating about what you might have said. That’s the whole stupid approach you lead with.

    We can, however, say with some certainty what you are not qualified to answer. And that would have been: “Oh, yes, of course. Now he would have been a good chair.”

    We know you’re not qualified to make such a statement because you’ve admitted that you are 1) not a republican 2) you don’t care who the RNC chair is 3) you don’t follow republican insider politics closely enough to suggest a better candidate.

    In other words, Jay Tea, not only are you not qualified to answer your own question Oliver, you are not qualified to offer any substance response to any answer he might have given you. This by your own admission.

    But you came here expecting “intelligent debate.”

    Please. You’re a clown.

  63. Randy Brown says:

    Fafaroo said to Thayer:

    Please. You’re a clown.

    Correct. And clowns exist for one purpose: to be laughed at for extreme silliness. Describes Thayer to a JT.

    Black people call Steele and others like him names BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE THINK OF THEM IN OUR COMMUNITY. Last year, we were also calling OJ Simpson a “dumb-ass nigga” for what he did in Vegas.

    I’ve heard Italians, Polish people, and Germans refer to each other using slurs that would be politically incorrect coming from anyone else. WHY NOT US? (And of course, we use the N-word far too often for my liking.) Steele is especially worthy of our contempt because, in his quest for GOP inclusion, he does not represent or respect us.

    And do you think the GOP REALLY respects Steele? It was either him or the anti-integration redneck: the evil of two lessers. At best, he’s tolerated by them, and they’ll laugh when he walks out of the room. Let him try to run for prez or VP in 2012 and see what happens.

  64. wÒÓ† says:

    Jay Tea, as a gay man yourself I would hope you’d understand the difficulties minorities face every day in the United States.

    Don’t not make it any harder for our brothers and sisters of color. Let the whole Proposition 8 thing drop, and work towards marriage equality in the courts.

  65. Mylegacy says:

    The Republicans need more than a shiny new bald black guy.

    Their BIGGEST problem is that:
    1) No one under under 30 believes anything they say.
    2) No AA will abandon Obama and later – “Obama’s Party.”
    3) NO Hispanic wants the “Republican White Vision” for a Spanish Free America.
    4) Few women want to lose the right to “choose.”

    The above are just over 50% of the population and growing. The remainder are just under the 50% and are dying off.

    If Obama ever “teaches” the working and middle class “why” they should vote in their own interests instead of the interests of the Top 10% – then the ball game is – as they say – 100% over. And over for a generation or two at least.

  66. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    J.G.Thayer: “1) I challenged Oliver to name a GOP chairman who he would NOT immediately label ‘worst choice ever.’ This article was hackery of the highest order; he had it all planned out, long before any voting was held, and just plugged in the details.”

    Oliver never called him the worst choice ever, so that part of your post is a lie.

    Amanda Carpenter said the Democrats were scared, and as proof she offered the fact that the Democrats already have opposition research against Steele.

    However, as Oliver pointed out, Steele is hardly a powerhouse candidate, a claim you are not denying with any real strength. And the reason there’s opposition research on him, is he ran for office against a Democrat just three years ago.

    “4) Amazing how whenever I start scoring points in arguments, it suddenly all becomes about me.”

    You’ve scored points in an argument?

  67. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    J.G.Thayer: “Strowbridge, the RNC isn’t likely to listen to me. I’m not even a registered Republican.”

    Admission of defeat. You can’t give me one person who wouldn’t fit the general tone of Oliver’s post, then you can’t call it hackery.

    By the way, the actual post has specific details that apply to Steele. But I guess you are too stupid to notice that.

    “But your description of Steele’s rival sounds vaguely familiar… remind me, who’s the Democratic President Pro Tem currently?”

    More proof that you are a moron. You are comparing Byrd’s past with this guys present. He was a member of a whites only country club WHEN HE ANNOUNCED HE WOULD RUN FOR THE LEADER OF THE RNC. Byrd has spent decades trying to undo the harm he did as a youth.

    Do you not see the difference?

    “And ‘tu quoque’ is not a defense, it’s a confession.”

    Wow. You are a hypocrite. You complain about tu quoque in the same post you defend a Republican racist by bringing up Byrd.

    If you had any dignity, this would be enough to make you leave this site forever.

  68. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    J.G.Thayer: “I’m not a Republican, so I have no say in the RNC Chairman race.”

    Neither am I, yet I can form an opinion on the matter. I can even back up that opinion with facts and logic.

    You, on the other hand, seem petrified in stating a simple opinion.

  69. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    J.G.Thayer: “I don’t follow Republican politics close enough to have an opinion on such inside baseball as who should be RNC Chair.”

    Yet you are here voicing your opinion on the matter. You claim Oliver is being a hack for voicing his opinion, but you have no information to base an opinion on your own.

    Simply stunning.

    “As for the future of the GOP… I think that there are aspects of several former presidential candidates that have tremendous merit. Palin, Giuliani, Thompson, Romney… all have seriously positive qualities that could serve their party and the nation.”

    … You should have kept your mouth shut.

    Name two ’seriously positive qualities’ that Sarah Palin has.

  70. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    “Palin took on corruption in her own party and won. She also achieved some very notable things in her tenure as governor. She has a record of accomplishment.”

    Palin attack member of her party that didn’t support her candidacy for Governor. She used her power for political gain.

    Just like McCain did when he took down Abramoff. One of McCain’s major donor was a rival of Abramoff. Not something you hear about in the media when they are talking about McCain’s maverick nature.

  71. Jaim says:

    Palin reads every single newspaper in existence. Cut her some slack — she’s busy edumacating herself!

  72. he had it all planned out, long before any voting was held, and just plugged in the details.
    Prove it, ass. I noted weeks ago that Steele was possibly the worst choice ever. Your parallel with Dean is ridiculous. Steele has never been elected on his own to any office. Dean was governor of Vermont and the first political candidate to seriously tap into the netroots and the web at large to go from obscurity to viability. When Dean took charge of the party he made clear his goal was to tear down the failed system. Mikey Steele’s a black guy who made some funny commercials, thats it.

    He wasn’t in the running but the RNC could have picked someone with a forward looking version of the GOP like Patrick Ruffini or John Henke… they didn’t. It’s same old same old with a Twitter account, and while I’ve said time and again that I don’t make Rove-like declarations about permanent majorities — taking out the ideology I’d put more money on Dems than Reps for the next 10 years.

  73. Jaim says:

    Hey O-dub, how come not post about the EPIC FAIL of Pajamas Media? :)

  74. Randy Brown says:

    Five thumping lefts to the jaw from CSS…his opponent Thayer is eating canvas. THE MATCH IS OVER!!!

  75. Randy Brown says:

    Jaim, no need to overstate the painfully obvious.

  76. Jaim says:

    Oh, but c’mon — have you been reading all the con bloggers turning on one another and Charles and Simon? Pam Gellar saying that she really, truly thought Pajamas would rival the AP and UPI?

    S’beautiful.

    /wipes single tear from face

  77. Jay says:

    losing by double digits in a race that should have been much closer

    A very conservative candidate running in the ultra left wing state of Maryland and the results should have been closer? Yeah right.

    Oh and great job on the stimulus package Democrats. That dog park in Chula Vista, CA will be a BOON to those living in Peoria.

    Heckuva job.

  78. A very conservative candidate running in the ultra left wing state of Maryland and the results should have been closer?
    Actually, Steele ran as a moderate (that’s one of the reasons the media thought Steele could be the Republican success story of 2006. Turns out the only GOP win was a conservative from a conservative state, Bob Corker, in what was an advance sign of the GOP’s status as a small regional southern party). That’s why Steele did not oppose Roe vs. Wade when he ran – is that a “conservative” position? No. And Maryland is a moderate state. You’re increasingly isolated and substituting your personal beliefs for reality. Remember how you told me your conservative Florida wouldn’t go for the liberal Obama? The country is changing right under yer feet.

  79. Randy Brown says:

    Grump, I’m tempted to click on that link…but I refuse to soil my PC with anything from the Keystone Kleagle Kop.

    Jaim, you know the joke about the world’s tiniest violin, right? That applies to the pending implosion of the wingnut media.

  80. (: Tom :) says:

    Jay Tea says:,January 31, 2009 at 11:43 am

    [snip]

    The future of the Democrats?

    I’m trying to figure out where it was that anyone asked you this questions, Jay.

    You spent half of the comments thread telling us why you aren’t qualified to determine who should be at the helm of the Republican’ts in the future, and ducking the question (while tossing out gratuitous insults – stay classy there, fella!) about the future of the Republican’ts, and then you want to start giving you opinions about the future of the Democrats?

    Don’t you think you’re slightly less qualified to talk about the Democrats than about the Republican’ts? Who you said you were unqualified to discuss?

    Also: let the record show the increased level of incivility by Jay Tea is happening within the first month of his conservative philosophy being tossed out of the government. After eight years of hammering liberals about the loser Demoncraps. Can you imagine the level of rage and frustration when Jay has had, oh, let’s say, one tenth of the harassment and abuse that he’s doled out here? Can you imagine that someone who holds opinions like this would be even considered competent or qualified to discuss this, or any, political situation?

  81. Quaker in a Basement says:

    Let us recall this thread on the next occasion when Mr. Tea begins whining about those who criticize his fact-and-reason-filled posts rather than offering an opinion of our own.

  82. buma says:

    I agree with Jaye and Amanda. Steele is a fine choice. It has me quaking in my boots. You betcha.

  83. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    Tom: “You spent half of the comments thread telling us why you aren’t qualified to determine who should be at the helm of the Republican’ts in the future, and ducking the question (while tossing out gratuitous insults – stay classy there, fella!) about the future of the Republican’ts, and then you want to start giving you opinions about the future of the Democrats?”

    J.G.Thayer is a hypocrite of the ultimate order.

    Anyone who responds to him with anything more than, ‘Shut the fuck up!’ is wasting their time. And I admit I’m guilty of that.

  84. C.S.Strowbridge says:

    J.Caruso: “A very conservative candidate running in the ultra left wing state of Maryland and the results should have been closer? Yeah right.”

    He practically ran as a Democrat! And listening to media reports from the time, you would have thought the race was going to be a coin toss.

    Granted, Beltway Media is not reliable, but he clearly missed expectations.