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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-135029</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The president&#039;s name is spelled &quot;Barack&quot;. That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The president&#8217;s name is spelled &#8220;Barack&#8221;. That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-135028</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;First: Evil Roy Slade&quot;

&quot;Excellent choice. Starring the always funny John Astin.&quot;

Okay, I have heard of that movie, but I haven&#039;t seen it. 

Might pick it up on DVD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First: Evil Roy Slade&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Excellent choice. Starring the always funny John Astin.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, I have heard of that movie, but I haven&#8217;t seen it. </p>
<p>Might pick it up on DVD.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-135020</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;First: Evil Roy Slade&lt;/i&gt;

Excellent choice.  Starring the always funny John Astin.</description>
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<p>Excellent choice.  Starring the always funny John Astin.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134993</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duros62: &quot;You watched Johnny Dangerously the other night, didn’t you?&quot;

Quaker in a Basement: &quot;That’s my second favorite movie-that-almost-no-one-has-seen.&quot;

I love that movie. 

&quot;First: Evil Roy Slade&quot;

Never heard of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duros62: &#8220;You watched Johnny Dangerously the other night, didn’t you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Quaker in a Basement: &#8220;That’s my second favorite movie-that-almost-no-one-has-seen.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love that movie. </p>
<p>&#8220;First: Evil Roy Slade&#8221;</p>
<p>Never heard of it.</p>
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		<title>By: fafaroo</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134984</link>
		<dc:creator>fafaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Evil Roy Slade.&lt;/i&gt;

That just went on my netflix queue. 

(Unfortunately, I probably won&#039;t get to it until 2010. It&#039;s a long queue.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Evil Roy Slade.</i></p>
<p>That just went on my netflix queue. </p>
<p>(Unfortunately, I probably won&#8217;t get to it until 2010. It&#8217;s a long queue.)</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134949</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You watched Johnny Dangerously the other night, didn’t you? &lt;/em&gt;

That&#039;s my second favorite movie-that-almost-no-one-has-seen. First: Evil Roy Slade.

[&lt;em&gt;sings] Stubby index finger...tapping out the code...&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You watched Johnny Dangerously the other night, didn’t you? </em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s my second favorite movie-that-almost-no-one-has-seen. First: Evil Roy Slade.</p>
<p>[<em>sings] Stubby index finger&#8230;tapping out the code&#8230;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134943</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I just don’t expect a higher level of competence now that Dems are running the show. Nor would I had McCain won either.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, at least we agree on &lt;i&gt;something.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;farging iceholes&lt;/i&gt;

You watched Johnny Dangerously the other night, didn&#039;t you? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I just don’t expect a higher level of competence now that Dems are running the show. Nor would I had McCain won either.</i></p>
<p>Well, at least we agree on <i>something.</i></p>
<p><i>farging iceholes</i></p>
<p>You watched Johnny Dangerously the other night, didn&#8217;t you? <img src='http://www.oliverwillis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134930</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money to (blow up and then) rebuild infrastructure in Iraq? America, f**k yeah!

Money to rebuild infrasturcture in America? Wasteful government spending!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money to (blow up and then) rebuild infrastructure in Iraq? America, f**k yeah!</p>
<p>Money to rebuild infrasturcture in America? Wasteful government spending!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134925</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;systematic suppression of dissent by illegally using government resources,&lt;/i&gt;

Tom, I want a full report on my desk before the end of the day.  Cites and Links.  Especially the &quot;systematic&quot; part.  That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>systematic suppression of dissent by illegally using government resources,</i></p>
<p>Tom, I want a full report on my desk before the end of the day.  Cites and Links.  Especially the &#8220;systematic&#8221; part.  That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134924</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

I gotta ask.  Do you get paid or somehow compensated for every &quot;Putsch fellating&quot; or &quot;Republican’t&quot; that you put in your comments?  That&#039;s gotta be the case, because you seem to put them in practically every single thing you write.  Like it&#039;s some kind of a nervous tic that you&#039;re powerless to do anything about.  

Does this happen to you in real life?  &quot;Give me two cheeseburgers, large fries - PUTSCH FELLATING REPUBLICAN&#039;T - and a chocolate - REPUBLICAN&#039;T - shake.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>I gotta ask.  Do you get paid or somehow compensated for every &#8220;Putsch fellating&#8221; or &#8220;Republican’t&#8221; that you put in your comments?  That&#8217;s gotta be the case, because you seem to put them in practically every single thing you write.  Like it&#8217;s some kind of a nervous tic that you&#8217;re powerless to do anything about.  </p>
<p>Does this happen to you in real life?  &#8220;Give me two cheeseburgers, large fries &#8211; PUTSCH FELLATING REPUBLICAN&#8217;T &#8211; and a chocolate &#8211; REPUBLICAN&#8217;T &#8211; shake.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: (: Tom :)</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134920</link>
		<dc:creator>(: Tom :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; william says:, January 27, 2009 at 4:06 pm&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;The government confiscating $10,520 from every working American sounds like stimulus to me.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Now&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; you&#039;re getting upset with the outrageous expenditures of the Republican&#039;ts when they were running the country &lt;i&gt;into the ground&lt;/i&gt; from 2000 - 2008?

&lt;i&gt;Thanks Barrack.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh - sorry.  Thought I had found a Republican&#039;t familiar with the concepts of integrity, honesty, and morality.  My bad...

Plus: the irony involved with Putsch fellating Republican&#039;ts whinging about dissent being suppressed now that there&#039;s a Democratic president, when the Republican&#039;ts have been engaging in systematic suppression of dissent by illegally using government resources, is amazing.  How do you farging iceholes manage to do it without that empty melon on top of your shoulders exploding from the cognitive dissonance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> william says:, January 27, 2009 at 4:06 pm</i></p>
<p><i>The government confiscating $10,520 from every working American sounds like stimulus to me.</i></p>
<p><b><i>Now</i></b> you&#8217;re getting upset with the outrageous expenditures of the Republican&#8217;ts when they were running the country <i>into the ground</i> from 2000 &#8211; 2008?</p>
<p><i>Thanks Barrack.</i></p>
<p>Oh &#8211; sorry.  Thought I had found a Republican&#8217;t familiar with the concepts of integrity, honesty, and morality.  My bad&#8230;</p>
<p>Plus: the irony involved with Putsch fellating Republican&#8217;ts whinging about dissent being suppressed now that there&#8217;s a Democratic president, when the Republican&#8217;ts have been engaging in systematic suppression of dissent by illegally using government resources, is amazing.  How do you farging iceholes manage to do it without that empty melon on top of your shoulders exploding from the cognitive dissonance?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134918</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The risk, she said, is that “money will be wasted because the investment elements were not carefully crafted.” &lt;/i&gt;

You are so correct.  

Ms. Rivlin, allow me to introduce you to TARP I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The risk, she said, is that “money will be wasted because the investment elements were not carefully crafted.” </i></p>
<p>You are so correct.  </p>
<p>Ms. Rivlin, allow me to introduce you to TARP I.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134917</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;First of all, Dave, my “stop being a dick” comment is bipartisan. It works for both sides.&lt;/i&gt;

Doesn&#039;t matter, Duros.  Like midderpidge noted above, there&#039;s a big difference between &quot;loyal dissent&quot; and &quot;blatant political obstructionism&quot;.  If you&#039;re blocking it to keep the other party from succeeding or just because you can, then yes, you&#039;re a dick.  But if you&#039;re blocking it because you&#039;re concerned about the alarming amount of money being spent (requiring huge future tax increases) with no clear idea how this is going to stimulate the economy, then you&#039;re not.  I think enough Republicans have pointed out these concerns to qualify for the second category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>First of all, Dave, my “stop being a dick” comment is bipartisan. It works for both sides.</i></p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter, Duros.  Like midderpidge noted above, there&#8217;s a big difference between &#8220;loyal dissent&#8221; and &#8220;blatant political obstructionism&#8221;.  If you&#8217;re blocking it to keep the other party from succeeding or just because you can, then yes, you&#8217;re a dick.  But if you&#8217;re blocking it because you&#8217;re concerned about the alarming amount of money being spent (requiring huge future tax increases) with no clear idea how this is going to stimulate the economy, then you&#8217;re not.  I think enough Republicans have pointed out these concerns to qualify for the second category.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134914</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaker, we could argue about sources, or we could actually do something about it and split the bill like Rivlen suggests.

Bipartisanship!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaker, we could argue about sources, or we could actually do something about it and split the bill like Rivlen suggests.</p>
<p>Bipartisanship!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134912</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are you against that?&lt;/i&gt;

No I&#039;m not.  But you failed to answer the question.

How exactly does this stimulate the economy?

I think it&#039;s a great thing.  But put it in the second, long-term bill and let people debate the merits of spending money on that vs. infrastructure, health care, education, etc.

&lt;i&gt;What was Ben Bernake’s big hurry with the TARP funds?&lt;/i&gt;

Damned if I know.  I was against TARP I too.  At least the way it was done (i.e. no oversight and not given out for original purpose). And I think Bush and his idiots (Bernanke and Paulson) bungled that one too.  I just don&#039;t expect a higher level of competence now that Dems are running the show.  Nor would I had McCain won either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Are you against that?</i></p>
<p>No I&#8217;m not.  But you failed to answer the question.</p>
<p>How exactly does this stimulate the economy?</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a great thing.  But put it in the second, long-term bill and let people debate the merits of spending money on that vs. infrastructure, health care, education, etc.</p>
<p><i>What was Ben Bernake’s big hurry with the TARP funds?</i></p>
<p>Damned if I know.  I was against TARP I too.  At least the way it was done (i.e. no oversight and not given out for original purpose). And I think Bush and his idiots (Bernanke and Paulson) bungled that one too.  I just don&#8217;t expect a higher level of competence now that Dems are running the show.  Nor would I had McCain won either.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134908</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, Dave, my &quot;stop being a dick&quot; comment is bipartisan. It works for both sides.

&lt;i&gt;I mean, c’mon, how many millions were in there for contraceptives?&lt;/i&gt;

That money is for a lot more than contraceptives. It is also for treating and preventing the spread of AIDS, STD like gonorrhea, syphilis and chlamydia, and stopping the spread of Tuberculosis.

Are you against that? 

&lt;i&gt;Because if they did it that way, Obama and the Democrats can’t ram through all that big spending “wish list” that they’ve been longing for, for so very long.&lt;/i&gt;

What was Ben Bernake&#039;s big hurry with the TARP funds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Dave, my &#8220;stop being a dick&#8221; comment is bipartisan. It works for both sides.</p>
<p><i>I mean, c’mon, how many millions were in there for contraceptives?</i></p>
<p>That money is for a lot more than contraceptives. It is also for treating and preventing the spread of AIDS, STD like gonorrhea, syphilis and chlamydia, and stopping the spread of Tuberculosis.</p>
<p>Are you against that? </p>
<p><i>Because if they did it that way, Obama and the Democrats can’t ram through all that big spending “wish list” that they’ve been longing for, for so very long.</i></p>
<p>What was Ben Bernake&#8217;s big hurry with the TARP funds?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134905</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The difference is that there may actually be some oversight instead of just handing over a blank check to the former head of Lehman Brothers.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, we heard a lot about &quot;strict oversight&quot; last Fall too.  I didn&#039;t believe it then either.

And before you start with the &quot;Bush and the Repugs were lying, but WE&#039;LL actually do it&quot; canard, keep in mind that the Democrats don&#039;t exactly have a sterling record in this area over the last few years.  You may recall when the subject of oversight came up regarding Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac, the Democrats were the ones saying &quot;Oversight?  We don&#039;t need any oversight.  Everything is JUST fine&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The difference is that there may actually be some oversight instead of just handing over a blank check to the former head of Lehman Brothers.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, we heard a lot about &#8220;strict oversight&#8221; last Fall too.  I didn&#8217;t believe it then either.</p>
<p>And before you start with the &#8220;Bush and the Repugs were lying, but WE&#8217;LL actually do it&#8221; canard, keep in mind that the Democrats don&#8217;t exactly have a sterling record in this area over the last few years.  You may recall when the subject of oversight came up regarding Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac, the Democrats were the ones saying &#8220;Oversight?  We don&#8217;t need any oversight.  Everything is JUST fine&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134901</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Actually, Dave, that idea is getting support from people on our side of the aisle:&lt;/i&gt;

I know, and I give them a lot of credit for speaking out against what their party is pushing for so strongly.  I just wish it was more than a few.  Noticeably absent from the list of skeptics are the names &quot;REID, PELOSI and OBAMA.  They are the ones trying to push this thing through as quickly as possible.  And without them changing their mind, it&#039;s going to happen regardless of anyone&#039;s doubts.  

And of course, if it fails to turn the economy around in the next 2 years, the public won&#039;t be happy and the Democrats will be the proud parents of this nearly $1 trillion spending spree.  And the public&#039;s &quot;unhappiness&quot; will be nothing compared to the day when the inevitable tax increases kick in to pay for all this.  I doubt people will think of it as the &quot;Change&quot; they were &quot;Hoping&quot; for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Actually, Dave, that idea is getting support from people on our side of the aisle:</i></p>
<p>I know, and I give them a lot of credit for speaking out against what their party is pushing for so strongly.  I just wish it was more than a few.  Noticeably absent from the list of skeptics are the names &#8220;REID, PELOSI and OBAMA.  They are the ones trying to push this thing through as quickly as possible.  And without them changing their mind, it&#8217;s going to happen regardless of anyone&#8217;s doubts.  </p>
<p>And of course, if it fails to turn the economy around in the next 2 years, the public won&#8217;t be happy and the Democrats will be the proud parents of this nearly $1 trillion spending spree.  And the public&#8217;s &#8220;unhappiness&#8221; will be nothing compared to the day when the inevitable tax increases kick in to pay for all this.  I doubt people will think of it as the &#8220;Change&#8221; they were &#8220;Hoping&#8221; for.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134899</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to rain on your little temper tantrum, Rheinhard, but I&#039;m not whining.  I just enjoy pointing out how now that the inmates are in charge of the asylum, the same people who used to bitch and moan so loudly about how they were so mistreated for bravely speaking out against the evil Bush regime&#039;s world-wide campaign of killing brown people for profit, are now the first ones to applaud Obama for his &quot;I Won&quot; stance and tell people who are blocking the Messiah&#039;s plans to just &quot;STFU and get out of the way&quot;.

&lt;i&gt;You’re just also a dick.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, I heard this from Duros yesterday.  Because I&#039;m all for blocking the current stimulus bill.  Wounds me.  Breaks my heart, it does.  Crying my eyes out here.  Yawn.

&lt;i&gt;Contrast this to the plight of liberals who, considering the complexities of national mideast policy dared to suggest that the glorious Bush plan of bombing everyone to freedom might be ill-advised, were regularly called out as TRAITORS, SADDAM-LOVERS, TERRORIST SUPPORTERS and FIFTH COLUMNISTS — not just by comments on a blog, but some of the loudest, most widespread voices in television, talk radio, and print punditry (not to mention a great many eliminationist wingnut bloggers) for months or years on end.&lt;/i&gt;

Damn.  You could almost hear the violins playing in the background of that paragraph.  That&#039;s a sad, sad story you got there.  &quot;The victimhood is strong in you, my young apprentice&quot;.  Have you considered turning it into a screenplay?  I hear there are a lot of studios looking for tear-jerker anti-conservative projects like this to make so they can bomb at the box office.

Other than people on blogs, who were these &quot;voices in television, talk radio, and print punditry&quot; who were calling people against Bush or Iraq &quot;TRAITORS, SADDAM-LOVERS, TERRORIST SUPPORTERS and FIFTH COLUMNISTS&quot;?  If it was so widespread, surely you can provide voluminous examples?

And I loved the &quot;dared to suggest&quot; and &quot;might be ill-advised&quot;.  Like all the comments against Bush and Iraq were just calm and rational attempts to say &quot;Whoa, hey, wait a minute... let&#039;s just stop and take another look at what we&#039;re doing here&quot;.  Apparently you&#039;ve been living in a cave and missed the widespread screaming about Bush (and the Right) being WAR-MONGERS and RACISTS (for killing &quot;Brown&quot; people), and BUSHITLER&#039;s ILLEGAL WAR, and HALLIBURTON and BLOOD FOR OIL and EEEEVIL REPUBLICANS, ad nauseum.  I think there may even have been a parade or a thousand that expressed these sentiments.

Boo hoo, Rheinhard.

What&#039;s next?  You gonna dust off the chickenhawk meme (or does ed have that trademarked)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to rain on your little temper tantrum, Rheinhard, but I&#8217;m not whining.  I just enjoy pointing out how now that the inmates are in charge of the asylum, the same people who used to bitch and moan so loudly about how they were so mistreated for bravely speaking out against the evil Bush regime&#8217;s world-wide campaign of killing brown people for profit, are now the first ones to applaud Obama for his &#8220;I Won&#8221; stance and tell people who are blocking the Messiah&#8217;s plans to just &#8220;STFU and get out of the way&#8221;.</p>
<p><i>You’re just also a dick.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, I heard this from Duros yesterday.  Because I&#8217;m all for blocking the current stimulus bill.  Wounds me.  Breaks my heart, it does.  Crying my eyes out here.  Yawn.</p>
<p><i>Contrast this to the plight of liberals who, considering the complexities of national mideast policy dared to suggest that the glorious Bush plan of bombing everyone to freedom might be ill-advised, were regularly called out as TRAITORS, SADDAM-LOVERS, TERRORIST SUPPORTERS and FIFTH COLUMNISTS — not just by comments on a blog, but some of the loudest, most widespread voices in television, talk radio, and print punditry (not to mention a great many eliminationist wingnut bloggers) for months or years on end.</i></p>
<p>Damn.  You could almost hear the violins playing in the background of that paragraph.  That&#8217;s a sad, sad story you got there.  &#8220;The victimhood is strong in you, my young apprentice&#8221;.  Have you considered turning it into a screenplay?  I hear there are a lot of studios looking for tear-jerker anti-conservative projects like this to make so they can bomb at the box office.</p>
<p>Other than people on blogs, who were these &#8220;voices in television, talk radio, and print punditry&#8221; who were calling people against Bush or Iraq &#8220;TRAITORS, SADDAM-LOVERS, TERRORIST SUPPORTERS and FIFTH COLUMNISTS&#8221;?  If it was so widespread, surely you can provide voluminous examples?</p>
<p>And I loved the &#8220;dared to suggest&#8221; and &#8220;might be ill-advised&#8221;.  Like all the comments against Bush and Iraq were just calm and rational attempts to say &#8220;Whoa, hey, wait a minute&#8230; let&#8217;s just stop and take another look at what we&#8217;re doing here&#8221;.  Apparently you&#8217;ve been living in a cave and missed the widespread screaming about Bush (and the Right) being WAR-MONGERS and RACISTS (for killing &#8220;Brown&#8221; people), and BUSHITLER&#8217;s ILLEGAL WAR, and HALLIBURTON and BLOOD FOR OIL and EEEEVIL REPUBLICANS, ad nauseum.  I think there may even have been a parade or a thousand that expressed these sentiments.</p>
<p>Boo hoo, Rheinhard.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next?  You gonna dust off the chickenhawk meme (or does ed have that trademarked)?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/27/obama-vs-the-gop-stimulus-edition/#comment-134896</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Then why not break this thing up? Pass the stuff immediately that will have an short-term (i.e. next 2 years) impact, then open up the long-term spending for further debate and discussion.&lt;/em&gt;

Actually, Dave, that idea is getting support from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/27/AR2009012703655.html?hpid=topnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;people on our side&lt;/a&gt; of the aisle:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In testimony before the House Budget Committee yesterday, Alice M. Rivlin, who was President Bill Clinton&#039;s budget director, suggested splitting the plan, implementing its immediate stimulus components now and taking more time to plan the longer-term transformative spending to make sure it is done right. 

&quot;Such a long-term investment program should not be put together hastily and lumped in with the anti-recession package. The elements of the investment program must be carefully planned and will not create many jobs right away,&quot; said Rivlin, a fellow at the Brookings Institution. The risk, she said, is that &quot;money will be wasted because the investment elements were not carefully crafted.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you&#039;re not sure you want to be on the same side as the BI, you can have a do-over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Then why not break this thing up? Pass the stuff immediately that will have an short-term (i.e. next 2 years) impact, then open up the long-term spending for further debate and discussion.</em></p>
<p>Actually, Dave, that idea is getting support from <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/27/AR2009012703655.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">people on our side</a> of the aisle:</p>
<blockquote><p>In testimony before the House Budget Committee yesterday, Alice M. Rivlin, who was President Bill Clinton&#8217;s budget director, suggested splitting the plan, implementing its immediate stimulus components now and taking more time to plan the longer-term transformative spending to make sure it is done right. </p>
<p>&#8220;Such a long-term investment program should not be put together hastily and lumped in with the anti-recession package. The elements of the investment program must be carefully planned and will not create many jobs right away,&#8221; said Rivlin, a fellow at the Brookings Institution. The risk, she said, is that &#8220;money will be wasted because the investment elements were not carefully crafted.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>If you&#8217;re not sure you want to be on the same side as the BI, you can have a do-over.</p>
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