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	<title>Comments on: Vatican Knocks Another One Out Of The Park, Brings Holocaust Denier Back Into The Fold</title>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just validates my journey from Catholicism to Agnosticism to Atheism...</description>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I would suspect he would accuse those complaining of being anti-Catholic...&quot;

Yeah, the accusation would be without merit, but that certainly wouldn&#039;t stop Billy D. from making it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would suspect he would accuse those complaining of being anti-Catholic&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, the accusation would be without merit, but that certainly wouldn&#8217;t stop Billy D. from making it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garbage like this just makes me sick.  I grew up in the Church, was an altar boy (The answer is no, never), and attended a Jesuit College (where I learned about Liberation Theology).  It just make me physically ill to see my Church doing this and the other crap noted above.  I haven&#039;t considered myself Catholic in several years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garbage like this just makes me sick.  I grew up in the Church, was an altar boy (The answer is no, never), and attended a Jesuit College (where I learned about Liberation Theology).  It just make me physically ill to see my Church doing this and the other crap noted above.  I haven&#8217;t considered myself Catholic in several years now.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daniel rotter says: &quot;I dare Bill Donahue, I fucking DARE him, to defend this decision.&quot;

I would suspect he would accuse those complaining of being anti-Catholic, and leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daniel rotter says: &#8220;I dare Bill Donahue, I fucking DARE him, to defend this decision.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would suspect he would accuse those complaining of being anti-Catholic, and leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dare Bill Donahue, I fucking DARE him, to defend this decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dare Bill Donahue, I fucking DARE him, to defend this decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To paraphrase Jello Biafra/Dead Kennedys:

&quot;Nazi Pope, Nazi Pope, Nazi Pope - FUCK OFF!!!&quot;

As long as the GOP Pope remains installed, I NEVER want to hear another right-wing complaint about Farrakhan or Jeremiah Wright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Jello Biafra/Dead Kennedys:</p>
<p>&#8220;Nazi Pope, Nazi Pope, Nazi Pope &#8211; FUCK OFF!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>As long as the GOP Pope remains installed, I NEVER want to hear another right-wing complaint about Farrakhan or Jeremiah Wright.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Sullivan (a Catholic) wrote about this as well.  On the one hand, I appreciate and admire the fact that many Catholics don&#039;t &quot;stand&quot; with the Vatican on every single issue.  On the other hand, when do you realize that if an organization you belong to does so many abhorrent things, you might just want to quit the thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Sullivan (a Catholic) wrote about this as well.  On the one hand, I appreciate and admire the fact that many Catholics don&#8217;t &#8220;stand&#8221; with the Vatican on every single issue.  On the other hand, when do you realize that if an organization you belong to does so many abhorrent things, you might just want to quit the thing?</p>
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		<title>By: James E. Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>James E. Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How unhooked from reality does a person have to be in order to believe that he is the supreme and infallible representative of God, the ruler of the universe?

And how whack does one have to be in order to believe that about any other person?

I suppose I should be pleased.  Nothing will hasten the demise of the Roman Catholic Church faster than a policy of strict atavism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How unhooked from reality does a person have to be in order to believe that he is the supreme and infallible representative of God, the ruler of the universe?</p>
<p>And how whack does one have to be in order to believe that about any other person?</p>
<p>I suppose I should be pleased.  Nothing will hasten the demise of the Roman Catholic Church faster than a policy of strict atavism.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Terra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er yes, I meant &quot;Liberation Theology&quot; and instead wrote &quot;Revolution Theology&quot;. Sorry about that; not something I think about that often, especially since the movement seems to be more or less defunct and I was never a Christian let alone a Catholic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er yes, I meant &#8220;Liberation Theology&#8221; and instead wrote &#8220;Revolution Theology&#8221;. Sorry about that; not something I think about that often, especially since the movement seems to be more or less defunct and I was never a Christian let alone a Catholic.</p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colorado Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite&gt;Warren Terra says:
Dammit, when I was a Jewish Atheist kid in Seattle in the 1980’s, if one talked about the intersection of the Catholic Church and Politics, it meant the Sanctuary Movement, martyrs for human rights in El Salvador, Revolution Theology, and the Social Gospel.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I do not know this for a fact but it is my understanding that John Paul II put then Cardinal Ratzinger in charge of eliminating all traces of Liberation Theology from the Catholic Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite><p>Warren Terra says:<br />
Dammit, when I was a Jewish Atheist kid in Seattle in the 1980’s, if one talked about the intersection of the Catholic Church and Politics, it meant the Sanctuary Movement, martyrs for human rights in El Salvador, Revolution Theology, and the Social Gospel.</p></blockquote>
<p>I do not know this for a fact but it is my understanding that John Paul II put then Cardinal Ratzinger in charge of eliminating all traces of Liberation Theology from the Catholic Church.</p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colorado Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite&gt;Quaker in a Basement says:


If a novelist invented a Pope half as strange as Ratzo, his work would be considered an insult.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually over the last 2,000 years most Popes have been as strange or stranger than Benedict XVI. Go back over papal history, especially during the 13th, 14th and 15th Centuries, and you will find popes venal, ambitious, ignorant and arrogant. Just like Benedict the XVI.

I mean it is only appropriate that the Vatican catch up to radical Islam in its attempt to drag civilization back to the 14th Century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite><p>Quaker in a Basement says:</p>
<p>If a novelist invented a Pope half as strange as Ratzo, his work would be considered an insult.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually over the last 2,000 years most Popes have been as strange or stranger than Benedict XVI. Go back over papal history, especially during the 13th, 14th and 15th Centuries, and you will find popes venal, ambitious, ignorant and arrogant. Just like Benedict the XVI.</p>
<p>I mean it is only appropriate that the Vatican catch up to radical Islam in its attempt to drag civilization back to the 14th Century.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Terra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Terra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ed overstates it, but one would think that a German pope who as a kid was (mandatorily, of course) in the H!tler Youth, might have the sense not to reinstate a freaking Nazi bishop.

Of course, it&#039;s clear that Ratzi doesn&#039;t mind Nazism, so long as noone remembers the social gospel or tolerates Teh Ghey.

Dammit, when I was a Jewish Atheist kid in Seattle in the 1980&#039;s, if one talked about the intersection of the Catholic Church and Politics, it meant the Sanctuary Movement, martyrs for human rights in El Salvador, Revolution Theology, and the Social Gospel. Our local Archbishop (Ray Hunthausen) was welcoming to Seattle&#039;s fairly active Gay community. Since then, of course, that Archbishop was exiled to Montana by the Vatican and the Church has completely reinvented itself to look like Ratzi and the other Dark-Ages Opus Dei types. The Church was seen as a force for Good then, even if we were aware that the Pope was a reactionary.

P.S. Looking up Archbishop Hunthausen on &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Hunthausen&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;, I see that Ratzi&#039;s would-be brownshirts are at play (emphasis added with boldface):&lt;blockquote&gt;Archbishop Hunthausen was considered a champion of the poor and overlooked and was known for his positions on peace and justice. As the archbishop of the Seattle Archdiocese his leadership was marked by strong pastoral care to all people. He&lt;b&gt;, perhaps improperly,[citation needed]&lt;/b&gt; embraced the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, particularly in his dedication to ecumenism and multicultural issues.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Material that used to be there about &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; Hunthausen angered the knuckledraggers by showing respect for gay folks has also been removed, though indications that Ratzi et al slapped him down over the issue remain. Time to finally get a Wikipedia account and engage in some editing wars, I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ed overstates it, but one would think that a German pope who as a kid was (mandatorily, of course) in the H!tler Youth, might have the sense not to reinstate a freaking Nazi bishop.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s clear that Ratzi doesn&#8217;t mind Nazism, so long as noone remembers the social gospel or tolerates Teh Ghey.</p>
<p>Dammit, when I was a Jewish Atheist kid in Seattle in the 1980&#8217;s, if one talked about the intersection of the Catholic Church and Politics, it meant the Sanctuary Movement, martyrs for human rights in El Salvador, Revolution Theology, and the Social Gospel. Our local Archbishop (Ray Hunthausen) was welcoming to Seattle&#8217;s fairly active Gay community. Since then, of course, that Archbishop was exiled to Montana by the Vatican and the Church has completely reinvented itself to look like Ratzi and the other Dark-Ages Opus Dei types. The Church was seen as a force for Good then, even if we were aware that the Pope was a reactionary.</p>
<p>P.S. Looking up Archbishop Hunthausen on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Hunthausen" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>, I see that Ratzi&#8217;s would-be brownshirts are at play (emphasis added with boldface):<br />
<blockquote>Archbishop Hunthausen was considered a champion of the poor and overlooked and was known for his positions on peace and justice. As the archbishop of the Seattle Archdiocese his leadership was marked by strong pastoral care to all people. He<b>, perhaps improperly,[citation needed]</b> embraced the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, particularly in his dedication to ecumenism and multicultural issues.</p></blockquote>
<p>Material that used to be there about <i>how</i> Hunthausen angered the knuckledraggers by showing respect for gay folks has also been removed, though indications that Ratzi et al slapped him down over the issue remain. Time to finally get a Wikipedia account and engage in some editing wars, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should be proud when these Hutton Gibsonites deny Democratic politicians communion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should be proud when these Hutton Gibsonites deny Democratic politicians communion</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon, guys, I know this sounds bad, but it&#039;s not as if they&#039;re harboring pedophiles or something. 

Oh, wait . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, guys, I know this sounds bad, but it&#8217;s not as if they&#8217;re harboring pedophiles or something. </p>
<p>Oh, wait . . .</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suddenly Bill Donahue seems like such a great guy compared to the official Catholic Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suddenly Bill Donahue seems like such a great guy compared to the official Catholic Church.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well would you expect any different from a Nazi Pope? 

What? What?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well would you expect any different from a Nazi Pope? </p>
<p>What? What?</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schism. Oh no, can&#039;t have that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schism. Oh no, can&#8217;t have that.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a novelist invented a Pope half as strange as Ratzo, his work would be considered an insult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a novelist invented a Pope half as strange as Ratzo, his work would be considered an insult.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;historical evidence “is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed.”&#039;

I&#039;m sure it was all just a big accident and an apology will straighten it all out.  I think the historical evidence will show tons of instances--probably about six million of which involve Jews but only about four or five million other instances so clearly it wasn&#039;t just a deliberate action against only Jews--where it was all a big misunderstanding.  It was a war, after all, and mistakes are made.  Wars are messy.  Collateral damage is inevitable and all that.  And &quot;6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed&quot; isn&#039;t likely anyway, since many were just inappropriately fed, placed on extreme diets, contracted diseases, were shot for something that was certain to have been before a military tribunal or some other appropriate governing body, and so forth.  The man is right: the historical evidence is clear.

As is the absolute evil that is the Vatican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;historical evidence “is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed.”&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it was all just a big accident and an apology will straighten it all out.  I think the historical evidence will show tons of instances&#8211;probably about six million of which involve Jews but only about four or five million other instances so clearly it wasn&#8217;t just a deliberate action against only Jews&#8211;where it was all a big misunderstanding.  It was a war, after all, and mistakes are made.  Wars are messy.  Collateral damage is inevitable and all that.  And &#8220;6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed&#8221; isn&#8217;t likely anyway, since many were just inappropriately fed, placed on extreme diets, contracted diseases, were shot for something that was certain to have been before a military tribunal or some other appropriate governing body, and so forth.  The man is right: the historical evidence is clear.</p>
<p>As is the absolute evil that is the Vatican.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>historical evidence “is hugely against 6 million Jews having been deliberately gassed.”</description>
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