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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/22/a-fleeting-moment/#comment-134243</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me: &quot;Percent of disposable income would be the best measure. Don’t know where you can get there. Or if you can get that.&quot;

Ed: &quot;Also volunteering. Time is money. But that’s too simplistic. You’re also THERE.&quot;

Exactly. If you are so rich that you don&#039;t need to work, your entire life can be donated to &#039;charity.&#039; Although holding social events for charity does help raise money, I bet a lot of times the people attending care more about the social event and less about the charity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me: &#8220;Percent of disposable income would be the best measure. Don’t know where you can get there. Or if you can get that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ed: &#8220;Also volunteering. Time is money. But that’s too simplistic. You’re also THERE.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly. If you are so rich that you don&#8217;t need to work, your entire life can be donated to &#8216;charity.&#8217; Although holding social events for charity does help raise money, I bet a lot of times the people attending care more about the social event and less about the charity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/22/a-fleeting-moment/#comment-134100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would donating blood rank, I wonder?

I&#039;m one donation from my seventh gallon.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would donating blood rank, I wonder?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one donation from my seventh gallon.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus we got rid of Dick Cheney as well, thank god!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/22/a-fleeting-moment/#comment-134040</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The source is an unreliable one with a specific extremist agenda, Dennis who has a basic desire and motivatin to mislead, specifically for the purpose of taking in gullible dupes like yourself. And in any case what we can see is that this post-- a reminder of your gutter ideology&#039;s absolute failure and irrelevance, has flipped you out enough that you need to scream &quot;look over there! a distraction!&quot; Yest another example from th3e extremist right unable to reconcile themselves to reality, and we&#039;re seeing a daily meltdown from the likes of Hannity, Rush, and the rest of the deluded followers while America celebrates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The source is an unreliable one with a specific extremist agenda, Dennis who has a basic desire and motivatin to mislead, specifically for the purpose of taking in gullible dupes like yourself. And in any case what we can see is that this post&#8211; a reminder of your gutter ideology&#8217;s absolute failure and irrelevance, has flipped you out enough that you need to scream &#8220;look over there! a distraction!&#8221; Yest another example from th3e extremist right unable to reconcile themselves to reality, and we&#8217;re seeing a daily meltdown from the likes of Hannity, Rush, and the rest of the deluded followers while America celebrates.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/22/a-fleeting-moment/#comment-134015</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Someone here doesn’t know the definition of Ad Hominem.&lt;/i&gt;
Duros62


Mister ed states &quot;Uh-oh:
Mr. Brooks is president of the American Enterprise Institute.”

Mister ed in that statement &lt;i&gt;&#039;replies to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject&#039;.&lt;/i&gt;

I think what he did pretty well fits the above definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Someone here doesn’t know the definition of Ad Hominem.</i><br />
Duros62</p>
<p>Mister ed states &#8220;Uh-oh:<br />
Mr. Brooks is president of the American Enterprise Institute.”</p>
<p>Mister ed in that statement <i>&#8216;replies to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject&#8217;.</i></p>
<p>I think what he did pretty well fits the above definition.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Percent of disposable income would be the best measure. Don’t know where you can get there. Or if you can get that.&lt;/i&gt;

Also volunteering. Time is money. But that&#039;s too simplistic. You&#039;re also THERE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Percent of disposable income would be the best measure. Don’t know where you can get there. Or if you can get that.</i></p>
<p>Also volunteering. Time is money. But that&#8217;s too simplistic. You&#8217;re also THERE.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Uh oh-
“Mister ed is a recent graduate of the Jessica Alba School of ad hominem attacks.”&lt;/i&gt;

Someone here doesn&#039;t know the definition of Ad Hominem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Uh oh-<br />
“Mister ed is a recent graduate of the Jessica Alba School of ad hominem attacks.”</i></p>
<p>Someone here doesn&#8217;t know the definition of Ad Hominem.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blahblahblah... Dennis doesn&#039;t like the topic: Republicans have been repudiated, so he wants to change the subject.

Dennis, you don&#039;t strike me as the religious type-- conservative or liberal -- so I seriously doubt your charitable donations are anything to write home about. Quoting from hack demagogues doesn&#039;t help your case. Want the Republicans to be relevant? Wait a while, do something useful with your life in the meantime, and demand that the Republicans start believing in something relevant, useful, and moral-- three things of which they&#039;ve been lacking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blahblahblah&#8230; Dennis doesn&#8217;t like the topic: Republicans have been repudiated, so he wants to change the subject.</p>
<p>Dennis, you don&#8217;t strike me as the religious type&#8211; conservative or liberal &#8212; so I seriously doubt your charitable donations are anything to write home about. Quoting from hack demagogues doesn&#8217;t help your case. Want the Republicans to be relevant? Wait a while, do something useful with your life in the meantime, and demand that the Republicans start believing in something relevant, useful, and moral&#8211; three things of which they&#8217;ve been lacking.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are we talking total money donated or percentage of income? Who’s more likely to be a conservative, the upper 5% (who have more money to give) or the lower 5%? Number 2, using myself as an example, I’m a social worker with a Masters in Social Work and probably don’t donate as much as the MBA who makes 3 times my income&quot;

Percent wise you probably won&#039;t be able to either, because a much higher percentage of your income goes to things like food and shelter. 

Percent of disposable income would be the best measure. Don&#039;t know where you can get there. Or if you can get that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are we talking total money donated or percentage of income? Who’s more likely to be a conservative, the upper 5% (who have more money to give) or the lower 5%? Number 2, using myself as an example, I’m a social worker with a Masters in Social Work and probably don’t donate as much as the MBA who makes 3 times my income&#8221;</p>
<p>Percent wise you probably won&#8217;t be able to either, because a much higher percentage of your income goes to things like food and shelter. </p>
<p>Percent of disposable income would be the best measure. Don&#8217;t know where you can get there. Or if you can get that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:  &quot;Conservatives give more money--blah, blah, blah.&quot;  Let me toss out a couple of quick points any college freshmen in a Research Design class point out.  Number 1, Are we talking total money donated or percentage of income?  Who&#039;s more likely to be a conservative, the upper 5% (who have more money to give) or the lower 5%?  Number 2, using myself as an example, I&#039;m a social worker with a Masters in Social Work and probably don&#039;t donate as much as the MBA who makes 3 times my income.  Does that make me less &quot;compassionate&quot; than that MBA?  Number 3, Talking with staunch conservatives after a couple rounds of truth serum, they will openly say they don&#039;t like those smelly poor people and don&#039;t want any of their money going to help them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  &#8220;Conservatives give more money&#8211;blah, blah, blah.&#8221;  Let me toss out a couple of quick points any college freshmen in a Research Design class point out.  Number 1, Are we talking total money donated or percentage of income?  Who&#8217;s more likely to be a conservative, the upper 5% (who have more money to give) or the lower 5%?  Number 2, using myself as an example, I&#8217;m a social worker with a Masters in Social Work and probably don&#8217;t donate as much as the MBA who makes 3 times my income.  Does that make me less &#8220;compassionate&#8221; than that MBA?  Number 3, Talking with staunch conservatives after a couple rounds of truth serum, they will openly say they don&#8217;t like those smelly poor people and don&#8217;t want any of their money going to help them.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You’ll find all the supporting statistical documentation you need.&lt;/em&gt;

Surprisingly, Mr. Brooks&#039; 2006 book doesn&#039;t even mention the Gallup poll he says was conducted in May, 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You’ll find all the supporting statistical documentation you need.</em></p>
<p>Surprisingly, Mr. Brooks&#8217; 2006 book doesn&#8217;t even mention the Gallup poll he says was conducted in May, 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Google-fu Brooks’ book, QIB. &lt;/em&gt;

Is that how Gallup is publishing their results these days? Man, I heard times were tough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Google-fu Brooks’ book, QIB. </em></p>
<p>Is that how Gallup is publishing their results these days? Man, I heard times were tough!</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google-fu Brooks&#039; book, QIB.  

&#039;Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth about Compassionate Conservatism&#039;

You&#039;ll find all the supporting statistical documentation you need.

You can probably get it at your local library, too, if you want to be a liberal hero like Jessica Alba and not admit you&#039;d ever pay one penny for a conservative author&#039;s book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google-fu Brooks&#8217; book, QIB.  </p>
<p>&#8216;Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth about Compassionate Conservatism&#8217;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find all the supporting statistical documentation you need.</p>
<p>You can probably get it at your local library, too, if you want to be a liberal hero like Jessica Alba and not admit you&#8217;d ever pay one penny for a conservative author&#8217;s book.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there was a link to that poll in Brooks&#039; article. My Google-fu failed to turn it up.</description>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Love how you ignore everything else I wrote, genius.&lt;/i&gt;
--ed

I didn&#039;t ignore everything else you wrote.  I didn&#039;t ignore that you accused conservatives of a &#039;Fuck the poor&#039; mindset.  I offered a recent study with statistical information gleaned from a period of years and over several different studies from different organizations, that that was not the case at all.  You termed it &#039;wildly misleading&#039;, without supporting that accusation.  You nitpick about the article not providing that statistical information you&#039;d like to see doesn&#039;t even come close to justifying an accusation of &#039;wildly misleading&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Love how you ignore everything else I wrote, genius.</i><br />
&#8211;ed</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t ignore everything else you wrote.  I didn&#8217;t ignore that you accused conservatives of a &#8216;Fuck the poor&#8217; mindset.  I offered a recent study with statistical information gleaned from a period of years and over several different studies from different organizations, that that was not the case at all.  You termed it &#8216;wildly misleading&#8217;, without supporting that accusation.  You nitpick about the article not providing that statistical information you&#8217;d like to see doesn&#8217;t even come close to justifying an accusation of &#8216;wildly misleading&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For starters, Einstein, Mr. Brooks talked about controlling for religious donations, but never shows where or how. Later, he says that righties donate to all sorts of charities, yet never elaborates. 

Propaganda is as propaganda does. 

Love how you ignore everything else I wrote, genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For starters, Einstein, Mr. Brooks talked about controlling for religious donations, but never shows where or how. Later, he says that righties donate to all sorts of charities, yet never elaborates. </p>
<p>Propaganda is as propaganda does. </p>
<p>Love how you ignore everything else I wrote, genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Uh-oh:
“Mr. Brooks is president of the American Enterprise Institute.”&lt;/i&gt;
That explains why he left so much out of his wildly misleading piece.
--ed

Uh oh-
&quot;Mister ed is a recent graduate of the Jessica Alba School of ad hominem attacks.&quot;

That explains why he&#039;d make an accusation without bothering to explain on what basis he makes that accusation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Uh-oh:<br />
“Mr. Brooks is president of the American Enterprise Institute.”</i><br />
That explains why he left so much out of his wildly misleading piece.<br />
&#8211;ed</p>
<p>Uh oh-<br />
&#8220;Mister ed is a recent graduate of the Jessica Alba School of ad hominem attacks.&#8221;</p>
<p>That explains why he&#8217;d make an accusation without bothering to explain on what basis he makes that accusation.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Conservatives Have Answered Obama’s Call&lt;/i&gt;

Uh-oh:
&quot;Mr. Brooks is president of the American Enterprise Institute.&quot;

That explains why he left so much out of his wildly misleading piece. 

Anyone so easily misled would also believe that massively regressive tax cuts help Teh Poor, opposing SCHIP likewise, or that we had to invade Iraq. Or that income inequality didn&#039;t skyrocket under the Cheney Administration; that median income didn&#039;t slightly decrease while the top 1% went way, way up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Conservatives Have Answered Obama’s Call</i></p>
<p>Uh-oh:<br />
&#8220;Mr. Brooks is president of the American Enterprise Institute.&#8221;</p>
<p>That explains why he left so much out of his wildly misleading piece. </p>
<p>Anyone so easily misled would also believe that massively regressive tax cuts help Teh Poor, opposing SCHIP likewise, or that we had to invade Iraq. Or that income inequality didn&#8217;t skyrocket under the Cheney Administration; that median income didn&#8217;t slightly decrease while the top 1% went way, way up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And “Fuck the poor.” Don’t forget that one.

And it’s couched in racist, Lee Atwater-style “Welfare Queen” bullshit. Love bunch, those Republicans are.&lt;/i&gt;
--Mister ed

&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123258358706104403.html&#039;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Conservatives Have Answered Obama&#039;s Call&lt;/a&gt;

Conservatives don&#039;t think &#039;Fuck the poor&#039;, ed.  Whether they are secular or religious, rich or poor, good economy or bad; they help the poor.  

Liberals...not as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And “Fuck the poor.” Don’t forget that one.</p>
<p>And it’s couched in racist, Lee Atwater-style “Welfare Queen” bullshit. Love bunch, those Republicans are.</i><br />
&#8211;Mister ed</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123258358706104403.html'" rel="nofollow">Conservatives Have Answered Obama&#8217;s Call</a></p>
<p>Conservatives don&#8217;t think &#8216;Fuck the poor&#8217;, ed.  Whether they are secular or religious, rich or poor, good economy or bad; they help the poor.  </p>
<p>Liberals&#8230;not as much.</p>
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		<title>By: hf</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Tyro. I might be happy to see the GOP come back in 16 years, when they&#039;ve accepted guaranteed health care (for example) as common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Tyro. I might be happy to see the GOP come back in 16 years, when they&#8217;ve accepted guaranteed health care (for example) as common sense.</p>
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