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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133389</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What? Mr. Tea got the simplest facts wrong?&quot;

Hey man, at least it&#039;s an ethos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What? Mr. Tea got the simplest facts wrong?&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey man, at least it&#8217;s an ethos.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133352</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CSS: &lt;i&gt;Listen, you don’t know what the definition of the word traitor is.&lt;/i&gt;

Sure he does.

&lt;b&gt;Traitor&lt;/b&gt;
trai⋅tor
   /ˈtreɪtər/ 
–noun
1. 	a person who fails to completely support a Republican</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSS: <i>Listen, you don’t know what the definition of the word traitor is.</i></p>
<p>Sure he does.</p>
<p><b>Traitor</b><br />
trai⋅tor<br />
   /ˈtreɪtər/<br />
–noun<br />
1. 	a person who fails to completely support a Republican</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133347</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amused Observer: &quot;LOL,&quot;

Unless you are 13 years old, or younger, you shouldn&#039;t use LOL. And there&#039;s no excuse for using it in a political discussion. 

&quot;ed loves his chicken hawk theme. The Democrats who called the war a failure are basically traitors...&quot;

Oh Jesus. Now you are taking your talking points from Anne Coulter. Listen, you don&#039;t know what the definition of the word traitor is. Otherwise, you would be declaring the Republicans traitors for their attacks against Clinton during the Kosovo War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amused Observer: &#8220;LOL,&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless you are 13 years old, or younger, you shouldn&#8217;t use LOL. And there&#8217;s no excuse for using it in a political discussion. </p>
<p>&#8220;ed loves his chicken hawk theme. The Democrats who called the war a failure are basically traitors&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh Jesus. Now you are taking your talking points from Anne Coulter. Listen, you don&#8217;t know what the definition of the word traitor is. Otherwise, you would be declaring the Republicans traitors for their attacks against Clinton during the Kosovo War.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133343</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J. G. Thayer: &quot;My apologies for disrupting the acoustics of your magnificent echo chamber. Or would “disrupting a circle jerk” be a better metaphor?&quot;

Translation...

I know I was wrong, but I&#039;m going to pretend I wasn&#039;t. I&#039;m going to pretend you are attacking me not based on the substance of my mistakes, but you are attacking me only because I disagree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. G. Thayer: &#8220;My apologies for disrupting the acoustics of your magnificent echo chamber. Or would “disrupting a circle jerk” be a better metaphor?&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation&#8230;</p>
<p>I know I was wrong, but I&#8217;m going to pretend I wasn&#8217;t. I&#8217;m going to pretend you are attacking me not based on the substance of my mistakes, but you are attacking me only because I disagree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133342</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J. G. Thayer: &quot;the “Surge” was a hell of a lot more than more troops. It was a complete top-to-bottom reworking of the whole strategy in Iraq, a ruthless gutting of failed and less than successful ideas and an entirely new approach to counterinsurgency. It was the culmination of General Petraeus’ years of research and thought and planning on how to deal with what promises to be an increasing threat in the world (asymettrical warfare, irregular allies and enemies, failed and failing nation-states, rampant factionalism, proxy wars, and a host of other really, really bad things) put from theory into practice.&quot;

Umm.... most of this started &lt;I&gt;before&lt;/I&gt; the Surge started. So how can it be part of the Surge? 

Me thinks you want to give credit where credit is not due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. G. Thayer: &#8220;the “Surge” was a hell of a lot more than more troops. It was a complete top-to-bottom reworking of the whole strategy in Iraq, a ruthless gutting of failed and less than successful ideas and an entirely new approach to counterinsurgency. It was the culmination of General Petraeus’ years of research and thought and planning on how to deal with what promises to be an increasing threat in the world (asymettrical warfare, irregular allies and enemies, failed and failing nation-states, rampant factionalism, proxy wars, and a host of other really, really bad things) put from theory into practice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm&#8230;. most of this started <i>before</i> the Surge started. So how can it be part of the Surge? </p>
<p>Me thinks you want to give credit where credit is not due.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133336</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;UPDATE: I knew something else sounded wrong about your post. Larry Beinhart, not Peter Beinart, wrote American Hero.&lt;/em&gt;

What? Mr. Tea got the simplest facts wrong?

An oddity, I&#039;m sure. One off. A rare misstep. We should focus instead on the Meat of the Post and rest assured that Mr. Tea has made no further errors of any importance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>UPDATE: I knew something else sounded wrong about your post. Larry Beinhart, not Peter Beinart, wrote American Hero.</em></p>
<p>What? Mr. Tea got the simplest facts wrong?</p>
<p>An oddity, I&#8217;m sure. One off. A rare misstep. We should focus instead on the Meat of the Post and rest assured that Mr. Tea has made no further errors of any importance.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133335</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As long as Obama doesn’t give away our sovereignty, drastically increase inflation, ruin our health care system with rationing, fold on national defense, erode our Constitution, or cripple our economy with global warming nonsense I’ll support him.&lt;/i&gt;

You really haven&#039;t been listening all this time, have you? The guys&#039;s a Constitutional Law TEACHER. I think he knows what it says better than any of us. and better than any of the clowns in the White House now as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As long as Obama doesn’t give away our sovereignty, drastically increase inflation, ruin our health care system with rationing, fold on national defense, erode our Constitution, or cripple our economy with global warming nonsense I’ll support him.</i></p>
<p>You really haven&#8217;t been listening all this time, have you? The guys&#8217;s a Constitutional Law TEACHER. I think he knows what it says better than any of us. and better than any of the clowns in the White House now as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133312</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;an ouchie on my vagina&quot;
That was the funniest thing I ever read on this site. Jaim, you are awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;an ouchie on my vagina&#8221;<br />
That was the funniest thing I ever read on this site. Jaim, you are awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133285</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zython,
As long as Obama doesn&#039;t give away our sovereignty, drastically increase inflation,  ruin our health care system
with rationing, fold on national defense, erode our Constitution, or cripple our economy with global warming nonsense I&#039;ll support him.  Obama is going to piss off more people on the left than the right with any luck.

This is a great country, it&#039;s just too bad people like you want to turn it into another Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zython,<br />
As long as Obama doesn&#8217;t give away our sovereignty, drastically increase inflation,  ruin our health care system<br />
with rationing, fold on national defense, erode our Constitution, or cripple our economy with global warming nonsense I&#8217;ll support him.  Obama is going to piss off more people on the left than the right with any luck.</p>
<p>This is a great country, it&#8217;s just too bad people like you want to turn it into another Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133282</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean AO isn&#039;t actually serving in Iraq and defending our freedoms?

I&#039;m shocked!

/next post from AO:  &quot;Well, my knee is sore and the doctor says I have an ouchie on my vagina so I can&#039;t go BUT I STILL MAKE SACRIFICES AND HAVE A YELLOW MAGNETIC RIBBON ON MY SUV!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean AO isn&#8217;t actually serving in Iraq and defending our freedoms?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m shocked!</p>
<p>/next post from AO:  &#8220;Well, my knee is sore and the doctor says I have an ouchie on my vagina so I can&#8217;t go BUT I STILL MAKE SACRIFICES AND HAVE A YELLOW MAGNETIC RIBBON ON MY SUV!!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133281</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When push comes to shove liberals like ed are basically to weak to stomach the hard things that have to be done from time to time.&lt;/i&gt;

The Iraq War DIDN&#039;T need to happen, dumbass. 

&lt;i&gt; The Democrats who called the war a failure are basically traitors, &lt;/i&gt;

How DARE they say driving off a cliff is a bad idea! Those dirty traitors!

&lt;i&gt;doing everything in their power to weaken the president and our nation in time of war. They would rather lose a war than give help Bush win one.&lt;/I&gt;

Why would anyone trust the people who got us into this mess to solve it? Would you trust an arsonist to put out a house fire? Anyhow, I take it you&#039;re going to set an example for us &quot;traitors&quot; by supporting President Obama?

Poor AO, if you hate America so much, you should just move back to Saudi Arabia or Antarctica.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When push comes to shove liberals like ed are basically to weak to stomach the hard things that have to be done from time to time.</i></p>
<p>The Iraq War DIDN&#8217;T need to happen, dumbass. </p>
<p><i> The Democrats who called the war a failure are basically traitors, </i></p>
<p>How DARE they say driving off a cliff is a bad idea! Those dirty traitors!</p>
<p><i>doing everything in their power to weaken the president and our nation in time of war. They would rather lose a war than give help Bush win one.</i></p>
<p>Why would anyone trust the people who got us into this mess to solve it? Would you trust an arsonist to put out a house fire? Anyhow, I take it you&#8217;re going to set an example for us &#8220;traitors&#8221; by supporting President Obama?</p>
<p>Poor AO, if you hate America so much, you should just move back to Saudi Arabia or Antarctica.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Pez</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133280</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Pez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If Democrats listened to “liberals” like Peter Beinart, we would be discussing John McCain’s inauguration right now.&lt;/i&gt;

I must respectfully disagree.  Getting McCain into the White House would have required a Democrat who was listening to Peter Beinart &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; Mark Penn, at the very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If Democrats listened to “liberals” like Peter Beinart, we would be discussing John McCain’s inauguration right now.</i></p>
<p>I must respectfully disagree.  Getting McCain into the White House would have required a Democrat who was listening to Peter Beinart <i>and</i> Mark Penn, at the very least.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133274</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Blogging . . . I would say 95%; maybe 99% of blogging is basically therapy for the blogger.”

–Mike Barnicle&lt;/i&gt;

OK, Barnicle said it. But who said it FIRST for Barnicle to lift from? Or did he just make this up, too?

Remember, Barnicle was fired by the Boston Globe for plagiarism and just plain making up stuff in his columns.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Blogging . . . I would say 95%; maybe 99% of blogging is basically therapy for the blogger.”</p>
<p>–Mike Barnicle</i></p>
<p>OK, Barnicle said it. But who said it FIRST for Barnicle to lift from? Or did he just make this up, too?</p>
<p>Remember, Barnicle was fired by the Boston Globe for plagiarism and just plain making up stuff in his columns.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133261</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush and the Republicans have already lost both wars for us due to incompetence.

And btw, Bush is out on his ass in less than 24 hours and America can begin rebuilding.  Get used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush and the Republicans have already lost both wars for us due to incompetence.</p>
<p>And btw, Bush is out on his ass in less than 24 hours and America can begin rebuilding.  Get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133260</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL,
ed loves his chicken hawk theme.  The Democrats who called the war a failure are basically traitors, doing everything in their power to weaken the president and our nation in time of war.   They would rather lose a war than give help Bush win one. When push comes to shove liberals like ed are basically to weak to stomach the hard things that have to be done from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL,<br />
ed loves his chicken hawk theme.  The Democrats who called the war a failure are basically traitors, doing everything in their power to weaken the president and our nation in time of war.   They would rather lose a war than give help Bush win one. When push comes to shove liberals like ed are basically to weak to stomach the hard things that have to be done from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133250</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scary Evil Monkey: &lt;i&gt;beinart no fight in war so hee wrong. if surge werked, y hee no fight? make no cense!&lt;/I&gt;

Oddly phrased (Kids these days.) but I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing the cries of &quot;chickenhawk&quot; fall by the wayside either.

&quot;If you&#039;re so in favor of the war and/or the surge, why didn&#039;t you enlist you coward chickenhawk?&quot;  Please.

as if everyone who has opposed them has actively arranged and organized protests and actions against it.

Worthless accusations from both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scary Evil Monkey: <i>beinart no fight in war so hee wrong. if surge werked, y hee no fight? make no cense!</i></p>
<p>Oddly phrased (Kids these days.) but I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing the cries of &#8220;chickenhawk&#8221; fall by the wayside either.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re so in favor of the war and/or the surge, why didn&#8217;t you enlist you coward chickenhawk?&#8221;  Please.</p>
<p>as if everyone who has opposed them has actively arranged and organized protests and actions against it.</p>
<p>Worthless accusations from both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary Evil Monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133241</link>
		<dc:creator>Scary Evil Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beinart no fight in war so hee wrong. if surge werked, y hee no fight? make no cense!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beinart no fight in war so hee wrong. if surge werked, y hee no fight? make no cense!</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133238</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First sentence of Beinart&#039;s ultimate graf:&lt;blockquote&gt;Being proven right too many times is dangerous.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Somehow, I don&#039;t see this as being a problem for young (i.e., fighting age) Mr. Beinart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First sentence of Beinart&#8217;s ultimate graf:<br />
<blockquote>Being proven right too many times is dangerous.</p></blockquote>
<p>Somehow, I don&#8217;t see this as being a problem for young (i.e., fighting age) Mr. Beinart.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133226</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chickenhawks like Peter Beinart, Jay Tea, and Dennis really didn&#039;t do the U.S. any favors by aiding and abetting the Iraq Invasion. What a disgraceful legacy they leave behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chickenhawks like Peter Beinart, Jay Tea, and Dennis really didn&#8217;t do the U.S. any favors by aiding and abetting the Iraq Invasion. What a disgraceful legacy they leave behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/01/18/peter-beinart-still-wrong/#comment-133221</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Blogging . . . I would say 95%; maybe 99% of blogging is basically therapy for the blogger.&quot;

--Mike Barnicle


Truer words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blogging . . . I would say 95%; maybe 99% of blogging is basically therapy for the blogger.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Mike Barnicle</p>
<p>Truer words.</p>
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