Galactica’s Back

4:48 am EST January 17th, 2009 | News | 20 Comments

Below the break, there be spoilers. And a picture of Grace Park (aka Mopey Cylon).

grace park 1. Ellen Tigh? Really? That’s kind of an anticlimactic development.
2. So what explains dead Starbuck? Alternate reality? Time travel?
3. Edward James Olmos is kind of a ham, but I like when he gets all crazy in a Shatner sort of way.
4. Not enough Gyus. Or Six.
5. I desperately want my gut feeling about not trusting the Cylons to pan out.

Topic: Battlestar Galactica

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20 Responses to “Galactica’s Back”

Vanessa says:

January 17, 2009 at 9:40 am

You’re a fracking nerd.
Andrew says:

January 17, 2009 at 10:53 am

So, are we Cylons? That is the part I wanna know.

I don’t feel evil…
GLV says:

January 17, 2009 at 11:33 am

If this turns into some “time is on an infinite feedback loop” BS, I’m going to be really mad.
onodrim says:

January 17, 2009 at 1:37 pm

I think when you combine the revelation that all of Earth was colonized by cylons, Starbuck finding her previous body, and Tigh’s memories of Ellen and their previous knowledge of being cyclons, it seems to me that they’re gonna reveal that everyone are cylons. One version builds a newer version, which then kills off the previous version, forgets over time, and then it happens all over again. Thus, it has all happened before and will happen again. They think they’re human, but I would bet that the “real” humans were killed off thousands of years ago. Or maybe something else entirely that we can’t even think of yet, I just can’t wait to watch it all unfold! (And it’s Gaius, sorry can’t help it :p)
Dan Panorama says:

January 17, 2009 at 2:47 pm

I’ve never paid too much attention to this side of BSG, but if feels like this season is a lot more reflective of its roots in the farther out aspects of Mormon theology. In the LDS, God lives by a star called Kolob (hence Lords of Kobol) where time moves at one-thousandth the pace of Earth. The premiere sure seemed to hint that Earth (or Kobol in BSG) has similar characteristics of some sort based on the five’s revelations and its likely this will be critical to resolving the story.
Sean D. Martin says:

January 17, 2009 at 3:14 pm

Andrew: So, are we Cylons? That is the part I wanna know.

With the “we’ve all been here before” and “13th tribe was cyclons” bits I was actually wondering at some point if it could turn out that EVERYONE is a cyclon.

Also, really didn’t likes:
– Roslyn’s utter failure of leadership when returning from Earth to Galactica. You don’t finally reach your promised land, return to a crowd awaiting news and then tell them absolutely nothing, no matter how bad the news would be. Guarantees instant rumor mill and unruly mobs. I couldn’t think of a single worse thing she could have done.
– After nuclear devastations and 2000 years sitting on a humid, sandy shore jacks and a pocket watch look new. Rust doesn’t exist on Earth?
Jay Tea says:

January 17, 2009 at 9:21 pm

I think I like onodrim’s theory. It fits nicely with what we know.

And while Sean’s right about Roslin, I feel a bit of sympathy for her. After all, she’s dying of cancer; she’s not at her best. But Sean’s right; it was an absolute failure of leadership, both by her and Adama, who’s got his own problems too.

Things fall apart, the center cannot hold…

J.
Sean D. Martin says:

January 17, 2009 at 11:54 pm

Jay Tea: But Sean’s right; it was an absolute failure of leadership, both by her and Adama

And you wanna know who it reminded me of…?
Oliver Willis says:

January 18, 2009 at 3:50 am

Even devastated Laura Roslin is better than…

Anyway. I really don’t think they landed on “Earth”. And the fact that only the cylons remembered being there makes me think its not the Earth of the scriptures. The Hendrix song that woke them up is probably a key of some sort.
Jay Tea says:

January 18, 2009 at 3:56 am

Funny, I don’t recall real-world politics being a part of the topic…

…but I kinda wish I’d gotten one of those “Tighe/Roslin 2008″ bumper stickers.

The Hendrix song bugged me. It tied BSG too much to our world, our history, our pop culture. The one solid, substantial “Earth” element was a Hendrix song?

J.
profbacon says:

January 18, 2009 at 8:19 am

Ellen Tigh is Starbuck or Six plus 20, 25 years. Easy
Jay Tea says:

January 18, 2009 at 1:32 pm

Hmm… prof, that makes too much sense. I never really thought about it, but BSG has more blondes than Fox News. That’s as good an explanation as any, and better than a lot.

J.
Sean D. Martin says:

January 18, 2009 at 3:10 pm

Jay Tea: Funny, I don’t recall real-world politics being a part of the topic…

I didn’t mention any names. So her failure reminded you of some real-world politician. Interesting.
Jay Tea says:

January 18, 2009 at 7:30 pm

One issue they’ve never addressed is Cylon skinjob aging. They have to age normally, or they’d start sticking out like sore thumbs after a few years. But whenever we see multiple versions of the same model, they are all exactly the same age — even when they emerge from the resurrection hub. When we first discovered Sharon was a Cylon, we saw dozens, if not hundreds, of her all at once.

It took me a while to realize this, as I was somewhat distracted by the presence of all those naked Sharons, but it’s something that’s bothered me all along.

That also brings up the issue of Cylon growth — if they aren’t “born” of humans, how and when are they inserted into human society? Have any of the skinjobs had families? That was one of the problems with the Adama as Cylon theory — he had a father and had fathered sons. Likewise, Starbuck had a mother and childhood. Onodrim’s theory does help with that problem.

J.
Sean D. Martin says:

January 18, 2009 at 8:51 pm

Jay Tea: One issue they’ve never addressed is Cylon skinjob aging.

Which skin job hasn’t aged? Six looks four years older to me than she did in the pilot episode.
Don Myers says:

January 19, 2009 at 9:50 am

Just for the record, “All Along the Watchtower” is a BOB DYLAN song, not a Hendrix song. Hendrix did a great cover of it.
Jay Tea says:

January 19, 2009 at 12:54 pm

Sean, I meant that whenever we see different versions of the same model, they’re the same age. Obviously it’s because of the actors involved, but there is no in-story explanation for the entire horde of naked Sharons from the first season (or miniseries) being… um… ah…. horde of naked Sharons… where was I?

Oh, yeah. That entire group of Bare Boomers were all exactly identical, no differing ages or maturities.

J.
Sean D. Martin says:

January 19, 2009 at 2:24 pm

horde of naked Sharons

I’m sorry, is some greater explanation needed? Let us not examine too closely the cause of the miracle.
Jay Tea says:

January 19, 2009 at 6:26 pm

Man, I wish I could do that, Sean, but that’s a large part of the reason why I’m an agnostic. I NEED to examine the causes.

Damn me.

I gotta find that video clip again…

J.
Thomas Beck says:

January 20, 2009 at 8:23 pm

“So what explains dead Starbuck? Alternate reality? Time travel?”

Excellent question. No idea.

I think we’re all Cylons. Or at least all of “Earth” is.