Scratch a liberal and a coward bleeds. I just love that line!

What goes away, comes around.

What? It was “goes around”? I like my version better. I mean, Hawaii took a year longer to get statehood than Alaska — and held both of them up a few years because Hawaii was clearly inevitably going to follow Alaska — precisely because the racists could not stand to see a multiracial place, which was pretty peaceful about the matter, invade and pollute our good old USA. I mean, Senator Fulbright, one of the smartest and decentest people in the Congress, voted against statehood for Hawaii. After all, he represented the state of Orval Faubus, and he had to stay in office somehow if he was going to do his good work.

So, that’s all dead and gone and forgotten now. For years and years.

And the sons of those same southern die-hard SOBS, or the grandsons or whatever, have now discovered that Hawaii is a foreign country because President Scary Black Man came from there. Enjoy it. Those guys are suffering. And I love the principle that one should hope for nasty people to be redeemed; but as long as they stay nasty, it’s just fine that it’s hurting them.

At troubling as Michelle Obama’s comments were, you actually think they were WORSE than being a member of a secessionist party?

“An Alaskan seccionist is a far better American than an unrepentant terrorist…”

True, but that unrepentant terrorist wasn’t the spouse of a vice-presidential candidate.

“…who helped launh a recent presidential candidate’s campaign…”

Ayers didn’t “launch” Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, but don’t let facts get in the way of your screed.

“LOL, for that matter Alaskan secessionists are much more patriotic than garden variety liberals.”

Wonderful, a guy who implies that Americans don’t “work for a living doing useful stuff” and aren’t “self reliant and resourceful” lecturing us on being patriotic about America. Kind of like Larry Flynt lecturing people on the evils of porn. Self-awareness is not AO’s strong suit.

Doesn’t every man woman and child get a hefty handout from the state? Highest rate of meth addiction per capita. Highest rate of rape per capita.

That’s sure useful.

An Alaskan secessionist is a far better American that an unrepentant terrorist who helped launch a recent presidential candidate’s campaign and is still active polluting our childrens minds with his bullshit.

LOL, for that matter Alaskan secessionists are much more patriotic that garden variety liberals.

Mambo, It must have been difficult going through school with your handicaps. You are to be commended for trying.

“Because Alaska is trying to secede from the Union”

Gee I wasn’t aware that AK was actively trying to do that. Most of that talk died down when Uncle Wally left office. Although it has always been a topic of conversation as long as I’ve been up there. The Feds reneged upon thier end of the Statehood bargain, which annoys the locals to no end.

Ak is a great place. Most people actually work for a living doing useful stuff. Folks up there are self reliant and resourceful. Like Americans used to be.

If Hawaii were to try to succeed from the Union would Obama be another Lincoln?

Because Alaska is trying to secede from the Union, is Sarah Palin another Jefferson Davis?

If there isn’t anything but ridiculously unrealistic leaps of fantasy in Republican’ts ongoing efforts to demonize everything Democratic (how’s that working out for ya, gang?), how do they function in the real world?

Beltway types (yes, stereotype, I know) who would think nothing of flying to the Caribbean for the weekend imagine that Hawaii is somewhere on the east coast of New Zealand.

I wouldn’t advocate secession, AO, but it seems to me that their culture and native people are distinctive -enough- to merit a little special consideration. Obviously being a state is in theirs and the U.S.’s best interests, but a little more federalism in their case wouldn’t be unwarranted, IMO.

Of course, this could just be one of those half-baked thoughts for which I later get reamed.

Yes. Personally, I root vigorously for Hawaii to succeed. If Hawaii can be successful with such a crappy global economy, I congratulate them wholeheartedly. I dare say that Hawaii’s success would be beneficial FOR the Union, and would not detract FROM the Union in any way.

/end snark

You’re a fucking idiot.

If Hawaii were to try to succeed from the Union would Obama be another Lincoln?

To Daniel Rotter above may I suggest he travel to Hawaii as a Canadian tourist…you’d be surprised how much anti-American sentiment there is on the Islands. I’ve actually had Hawaiians tell me they should have stayed with Britain and or joined Canada. By the way – we’d be delighted to have them join us – ’specially between December and March!

/sound of Republican heads asploding

Whaaa-t?

Lewis: However, you know, you could make an argument that if he wants it to appear to be not a big deal he would be out of the country.

He would be out of the country, not is.

Reading skills dropping during the holidays, folks?

“Martians could be eating our brains right now?”
“I don’t think so”
“It’s not as if the notion is that unfounded.“

Nothing more needs to be said.