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		<title>By: Randy Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, Chuck.  But the sad fact of life is that I (and many others) simply can&#039;t affford a laser printer right now...not to mention the replacement toner carts.  That&#039;s why I pick up inkjet printers dirt cheap at thrift shops, and occasionally come up with a few gems, like that Canon Pixma or the old Canon BJC-6000 (which I&#039;ve never seen with a USB connection).

Of the more-than-a-dozen printers I&#039;ve owned in the last nine years, only two were bought new in the carton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, Chuck.  But the sad fact of life is that I (and many others) simply can&#8217;t affford a laser printer right now&#8230;not to mention the replacement toner carts.  That&#8217;s why I pick up inkjet printers dirt cheap at thrift shops, and occasionally come up with a few gems, like that Canon Pixma or the old Canon BJC-6000 (which I&#8217;ve never seen with a USB connection).</p>
<p>Of the more-than-a-dozen printers I&#8217;ve owned in the last nine years, only two were bought new in the carton.</p>
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		<title>By: chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/12/11/advice-on-printers-sought/#comment-129811</link>
		<dc:creator>chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you even screw with inkjets any longer than you have to? I just bought a Samsung CLP-315 full color laser printer at Office-Max for less than $200. It also had an instant rebate of $50.00 on it making my total about $150. You get lots of pages from the drum etc. and you&#039;re not getting screwed by ink that evaporates as the printer just sits there. The black and white laser is around $120.00. Anybody who keeps an inkjet around is throwing away money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you even screw with inkjets any longer than you have to? I just bought a Samsung CLP-315 full color laser printer at Office-Max for less than $200. It also had an instant rebate of $50.00 on it making my total about $150. You get lots of pages from the drum etc. and you&#8217;re not getting screwed by ink that evaporates as the printer just sits there. The black and white laser is around $120.00. Anybody who keeps an inkjet around is throwing away money.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/12/11/advice-on-printers-sought/#comment-129809</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OW, surely you&#039;ve heard of the MarketPro Computer Shows that are held in the DC/VA/MD area, just about every week.  You&#039;ve prolly even been to one.  There&#039;s usually a number of vendors who sell remanufactured ink carts at great prices.

They&#039;re in Upper Marlboro this week, and at the Timonium Fairgrounds next week.  You can do a search on &quot;MarketPro Shows&quot; for the website.

Also, selected Walgreen&#039;s stores have a cart refilling service: $10 for black, $15 color.  They don&#039;t do Epson carts, however (dammit).

I just bought a Canon Pixma MP140 all-in-one from a thrift shop for about $7.  The color cart was empty, so I bought a Dataproducts &quot;automatic&quot; refill kit from Office Depot.  That worked beautifully, and the print quality is great.  That, and an older HP all-in-one, are my main printers now after a LONG succession of Epsons.

And Farris: kiss mine, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OW, surely you&#8217;ve heard of the MarketPro Computer Shows that are held in the DC/VA/MD area, just about every week.  You&#8217;ve prolly even been to one.  There&#8217;s usually a number of vendors who sell remanufactured ink carts at great prices.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re in Upper Marlboro this week, and at the Timonium Fairgrounds next week.  You can do a search on &#8220;MarketPro Shows&#8221; for the website.</p>
<p>Also, selected Walgreen&#8217;s stores have a cart refilling service: $10 for black, $15 color.  They don&#8217;t do Epson carts, however (dammit).</p>
<p>I just bought a Canon Pixma MP140 all-in-one from a thrift shop for about $7.  The color cart was empty, so I bought a Dataproducts &#8220;automatic&#8221; refill kit from Office Depot.  That worked beautifully, and the print quality is great.  That, and an older HP all-in-one, are my main printers now after a LONG succession of Epsons.</p>
<p>And Farris: kiss mine, too.</p>
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		<title>By: DawnPoetic</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/12/11/advice-on-printers-sought/#comment-129752</link>
		<dc:creator>DawnPoetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can wait until we get up there for Christmas I&#039;ll bring you my HP.  I don&#039;t use it anymore since I&#039;ve got all these other printers for my biz.  It works fine and isn&#039;t bad on ink.  It&#039;s just sitting here, collecting dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can wait until we get up there for Christmas I&#8217;ll bring you my HP.  I don&#8217;t use it anymore since I&#8217;ve got all these other printers for my biz.  It works fine and isn&#8217;t bad on ink.  It&#8217;s just sitting here, collecting dust.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith514</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/12/11/advice-on-printers-sought/#comment-129714</link>
		<dc:creator>Smith514</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a Brother black and white laser printer. Use the HP for any color you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a Brother black and white laser printer. Use the HP for any color you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelso75</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/12/11/advice-on-printers-sought/#comment-129706</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelso75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any good advice, I have an HP that also is horrible.  It is one that has the mulitple color cartridges (light cyan, dark cyan, light magenta, dark magenta, yellow, etc) - and what a pain!  It quits working when one is out too.  So there is no printing text in b&amp;w when you run out of light freaking cyan.  

Anyway, I&#039;ve seen the infomercial for the kodak printer that is supposed to sell cartridges for only about 10 or 12 bucks a piece.  And the printer is only $99.00 or $129.00, something like that.  I&#039;d like to get one and see if the quality is any good.  Anyone know?  

The website adversited on the infomercial is www.kodakoffer.com - I also read on a thread somewhere that it is $99.00 at sams club.  I&#039;m going to get one and try it out after Christmas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any good advice, I have an HP that also is horrible.  It is one that has the mulitple color cartridges (light cyan, dark cyan, light magenta, dark magenta, yellow, etc) &#8211; and what a pain!  It quits working when one is out too.  So there is no printing text in b&amp;w when you run out of light freaking cyan.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve seen the infomercial for the kodak printer that is supposed to sell cartridges for only about 10 or 12 bucks a piece.  And the printer is only $99.00 or $129.00, something like that.  I&#8217;d like to get one and see if the quality is any good.  Anyone know?  </p>
<p>The website adversited on the infomercial is <a href="http://www.kodakoffer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kodakoffer.com</a> &#8211; I also read on a thread somewhere that it is $99.00 at sams club.  I&#8217;m going to get one and try it out after Christmas.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just print everything out at work and let Brock pay for it!</description>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ive got a HP 4-n-1 free...cost bout 80.00 for cartdriges
hate to give up.....i&#039;ll have to dig it out of the Garage..give me a few days...lol
                                   steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ive got a HP 4-n-1 free&#8230;cost bout 80.00 for cartdriges<br />
hate to give up&#8230;..i&#8217;ll have to dig it out of the Garage..give me a few days&#8230;lol<br />
                                   steve</p>
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		<title>By: thebewilderness</title>
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		<dc:creator>thebewilderness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP Photosmart 3180 with the saturation turned down a bit seems to give me quite a bit more pages than I got with the Canon I used to use.
The only problem is that printers that roll the paper over instead of drop it through have trouble with heavy stock.
But if you don&#039;t do any artsy fartsy stuff you would be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP Photosmart 3180 with the saturation turned down a bit seems to give me quite a bit more pages than I got with the Canon I used to use.<br />
The only problem is that printers that roll the paper over instead of drop it through have trouble with heavy stock.<br />
But if you don&#8217;t do any artsy fartsy stuff you would be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: mike s</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found that buying for a B/W laser printer pays off in the long run.  Try a used computer store for an old HP - refill cartriges are pretty cheap, last a long time, and you are going green by reusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found that buying for a B/W laser printer pays off in the long run.  Try a used computer store for an old HP &#8211; refill cartriges are pretty cheap, last a long time, and you are going green by reusing.</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/12/11/advice-on-printers-sought/#comment-129677</link>
		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 05:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;but oh my God it drinks ink like wine at a Roman orgy.&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s supposed to - HP isn&#039;t the same company post-Fiorina as it was, and they need to make some cash, so they went to the system of giving the razors away and making money on the blades. Of course, if they&#039;re doing that, they can tweak settings to make it eat more ink per page.

Anyways, I am with everyone above: if you do a lot of non-color printing get a B&amp;W laser. The old pre-Fiorina HP&#039;s were excellent, so snagging one those used would be cool, but for the price of a working HP model, you can snag &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a Brother HL-5250&lt;/a&gt;. I have a 5140 (the newer version is the 5240) and it&#039;s great, except for the duplex printing. (If I had it to do over again, I would&#039;ve gotten the 5150 and had the duplex printing.) Quality like old skool HP. I printed a foot-and-a-half thick manual with it (about 2500 pages) and ran out of toner, so I got online and got a double-size toner refill (6k pages) and have been printing away ever since. That was three or four years ago. 
Goes real fast; hooks up to any OS or connector you care to name. If I had a an old Amiga or some other old 80&#039;s box with a parallel port, I could almost certainly print with it. Emulates HPs and postscript just great.

max
[&#039;Best piece of computer equipment I&#039;ve gotten this decade.&#039;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>but oh my God it drinks ink like wine at a Roman orgy.</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s supposed to &#8211; HP isn&#8217;t the same company post-Fiorina as it was, and they need to make some cash, so they went to the system of giving the razors away and making money on the blades. Of course, if they&#8217;re doing that, they can tweak settings to make it eat more ink per page.</p>
<p>Anyways, I am with everyone above: if you do a lot of non-color printing get a B&amp;W laser. The old pre-Fiorina HP&#8217;s were excellent, so snagging one those used would be cool, but for the price of a working HP model, you can snag <a href="http://www.brother-usa.com/Printer/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=HL5250DN" rel="nofollow">a Brother HL-5250</a>. I have a 5140 (the newer version is the 5240) and it&#8217;s great, except for the duplex printing. (If I had it to do over again, I would&#8217;ve gotten the 5150 and had the duplex printing.) Quality like old skool HP. I printed a foot-and-a-half thick manual with it (about 2500 pages) and ran out of toner, so I got online and got a double-size toner refill (6k pages) and have been printing away ever since. That was three or four years ago.<br />
Goes real fast; hooks up to any OS or connector you care to name. If I had a an old Amiga or some other old 80&#8242;s box with a parallel port, I could almost certainly print with it. Emulates HPs and postscript just great.</p>
<p>max<br />
['Best piece of computer equipment I've gotten this decade.']</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the above fellow devotees - if you can find an HP LaserJet 4 (the 4MP is a little better) in good condition, buy it. It only prints 12-15 ppm, but it&#039;s a sweet, sweet beast. I scavenged one from a failed networking experiment at work in 1997 and retired the thing last spring - still in perfect working order. My office changed and I didn&#039;t have room for it anymore. The toner cartridges still cost around $100 brand new (you could save $20  on a reloaded one, maybe), but you can get 5000 - 6000 pages out of one. In twelve years, I think I bought three, and I printed a lot of papers, pamphlets, handouts, exams, book chapters, and the like. 

I have to say I&#039;ve never had the same luck with the LJ 5&#039;s, but most of the ones I&#039;ve had to troubleshoot were hooked up to Macs with crappy USB-to-parallel cables. The LJ 5&#039;s didn&#039;t have a USB port. Neither do the 4&#039;s. If you have a Mac or a new laptop, you&#039;ll need to get a printserver, or find an LJ 4 with a JetDirect Ethernet card. Hook it up to your home network and you&#039;re good to go. 

The newer printers, like the Samsung I mentioned earlier, will be easier to set up, and faster, but they are not nearly so ... robust as the 4&#039;s. 

KC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above fellow devotees &#8211; if you can find an HP LaserJet 4 (the 4MP is a little better) in good condition, buy it. It only prints 12-15 ppm, but it&#8217;s a sweet, sweet beast. I scavenged one from a failed networking experiment at work in 1997 and retired the thing last spring &#8211; still in perfect working order. My office changed and I didn&#8217;t have room for it anymore. The toner cartridges still cost around $100 brand new (you could save $20  on a reloaded one, maybe), but you can get 5000 &#8211; 6000 pages out of one. In twelve years, I think I bought three, and I printed a lot of papers, pamphlets, handouts, exams, book chapters, and the like. </p>
<p>I have to say I&#8217;ve never had the same luck with the LJ 5&#8242;s, but most of the ones I&#8217;ve had to troubleshoot were hooked up to Macs with crappy USB-to-parallel cables. The LJ 5&#8242;s didn&#8217;t have a USB port. Neither do the 4&#8242;s. If you have a Mac or a new laptop, you&#8217;ll need to get a printserver, or find an LJ 4 with a JetDirect Ethernet card. Hook it up to your home network and you&#8217;re good to go. </p>
<p>The newer printers, like the Samsung I mentioned earlier, will be easier to set up, and faster, but they are not nearly so &#8230; robust as the 4&#8242;s. </p>
<p>KC</p>
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		<title>By: Kevowev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevowev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur with previous comments that you should consider a laser printer if you print (mono) on any kind of regular basis.  Price out the toner cartridges based on how many pages they&#039;re supposed to produce.  

I&#039;ve researched a bunch of the &quot;all-in-ones,&quot; or multi-function printers, and a lot of them come up lacking as far as the other features (like resolution of the scanner, etc.).  If you don&#039;t do much scanning, you can always just use a flatbed scanner (which is better for photos) and go for the best printer deal.

Otherwise, look for a multi-function laser printer with an auto document feeder AND and a flatbed scanner.  Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur with previous comments that you should consider a laser printer if you print (mono) on any kind of regular basis.  Price out the toner cartridges based on how many pages they&#8217;re supposed to produce.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve researched a bunch of the &#8220;all-in-ones,&#8221; or multi-function printers, and a lot of them come up lacking as far as the other features (like resolution of the scanner, etc.).  If you don&#8217;t do much scanning, you can always just use a flatbed scanner (which is better for photos) and go for the best printer deal.</p>
<p>Otherwise, look for a multi-function laser printer with an auto document feeder AND and a flatbed scanner.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Mylegacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mylegacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a 12 year old HP LsaserJet 5 and it still is WONDERFUL!

When I was a Management Consultant I wrote two books on Labour Relations and Human Rights and as they were ordered I&#039;d print them off on my HP LJ5. I&#039;ve printed countless thousands of pages on the thing. The toner cartridge is chi-hue-mungus and cost about $80 bucks or so and LASTS for freakin&#039; near ever!

Black and white only - just like Obama and me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a 12 year old HP LsaserJet 5 and it still is WONDERFUL!</p>
<p>When I was a Management Consultant I wrote two books on Labour Relations and Human Rights and as they were ordered I&#8217;d print them off on my HP LJ5. I&#8217;ve printed countless thousands of pages on the thing. The toner cartridge is chi-hue-mungus and cost about $80 bucks or so and LASTS for freakin&#8217; near ever!</p>
<p>Black and white only &#8211; just like Obama and me!</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Use ink refills.  They work fine.  www.myinks.com

2) Set you printer to black and white draft quality.  When printing text, it makes almost NO difference, and uses a LOT less ink and prints a LOT faster.

Modern technology works like that: they give you the stuff free and GOUGE you insultingly for accessories.  $35.  For a &lt;i&gt;piece of plastic filled with ink.&lt;/i&gt;  It&#039;s actually insulting.

A new stylus for a PDA is 7 bucks (actually a package of 3 for $21 - 7 dollars each).  It&#039;s a plastic stick.  7 dollars for a plastic stick.  This is what McDonald&#039;s gives you to stir your coffee, and they are charging 7 dollars for it.

Screw them.  Use ink refills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Use ink refills.  They work fine.  <a href="http://www.myinks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.myinks.com</a></p>
<p>2) Set you printer to black and white draft quality.  When printing text, it makes almost NO difference, and uses a LOT less ink and prints a LOT faster.</p>
<p>Modern technology works like that: they give you the stuff free and GOUGE you insultingly for accessories.  $35.  For a <i>piece of plastic filled with ink.</i>  It&#8217;s actually insulting.</p>
<p>A new stylus for a PDA is 7 bucks (actually a package of 3 for $21 &#8211; 7 dollars each).  It&#8217;s a plastic stick.  7 dollars for a plastic stick.  This is what McDonald&#8217;s gives you to stir your coffee, and they are charging 7 dollars for it.</p>
<p>Screw them.  Use ink refills.</p>
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		<title>By: SFC B</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFC B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I have no idea how much color printing you need to do, I second just getting a laser for BW and then using the color when needed.  You cannot go wrong w/ the HP Laserjets mentioned up thread.  I&#039;ve taken the same Laserjet 4 to the field, in hot, cold, wet, dusty, and sandy conditions (sometimes all in succession).  I&#039;ve hauled it in trailers and the back of HMMWVs over roads that were nothing more than a line on a map, and have never had it fail to perform.  It is also stingy w/ the toner when you use the right setting.  I&#039;ll get about a box and a half of paper our of a cartridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I have no idea how much color printing you need to do, I second just getting a laser for BW and then using the color when needed.  You cannot go wrong w/ the HP Laserjets mentioned up thread.  I&#8217;ve taken the same Laserjet 4 to the field, in hot, cold, wet, dusty, and sandy conditions (sometimes all in succession).  I&#8217;ve hauled it in trailers and the back of HMMWVs over roads that were nothing more than a line on a map, and have never had it fail to perform.  It is also stingy w/ the toner when you use the right setting.  I&#8217;ll get about a box and a half of paper our of a cartridge.</p>
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		<title>By: mattw</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Midderpidge has it down -- only change I&#039;d suggest is to get 2 $50 black and white laser printers, and you&#039;ll never run out of toner again. Samsungs are workhorses for the money.

If you decide to stick with inkjet, make sure you can turn off color printing on B&amp;W pages... by default, many will drain all 4 wells to print plain text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midderpidge has it down &#8212; only change I&#8217;d suggest is to get 2 $50 black and white laser printers, and you&#8217;ll never run out of toner again. Samsungs are workhorses for the money.</p>
<p>If you decide to stick with inkjet, make sure you can turn off color printing on B&amp;W pages&#8230; by default, many will drain all 4 wells to print plain text.</p>
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		<title>By: Randall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inkjets work like razors, the blades cost more than the razor and the companies make their money on the inkjet cartridges.  Get any laser printer and you&#039;ll be OK.  They cost more up front but it&#039;s sure worth it.  I have a Brother HL-5250DN that can be networked and it works great.  I then suggest getting a mega toner cartridge instead of the wimpy version that comes with it.  Then you just forget about it.  Also, toner cartridges don&#039;t dry out like inkjets with non-use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inkjets work like razors, the blades cost more than the razor and the companies make their money on the inkjet cartridges.  Get any laser printer and you&#8217;ll be OK.  They cost more up front but it&#8217;s sure worth it.  I have a Brother HL-5250DN that can be networked and it works great.  I then suggest getting a mega toner cartridge instead of the wimpy version that comes with it.  Then you just forget about it.  Also, toner cartridges don&#8217;t dry out like inkjets with non-use.</p>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, you guys are making me miss my old HP LaserJet 4.  The thing was a trooper, I had it for about 8 years, and it was pretty well-used when I got it.  I finally had to toss it when the paper outfeed mechanism irreparably broke down.

Since you already have the 5440, why not keep it around for when you absolutely need to print in color and get yourself a cheap B&amp;W laser printer for your default printer.  I have a HP LaserJet 1020 - works great, print quality is solid, and it cost about $100, new, as I recall.  The cartridges cost about $65 and they&#039;re good for a couple thousand pages.  It doesn&#039;t have a wireless port - I believe there&#039;s a printer that&#039;s essentially identical that does and costs about $50 more but I&#039;m not sure what the model # is.

Any inkjet printer is gonna blow through ink and they charge you a fortune for refills - that&#039;s the business model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, you guys are making me miss my old HP LaserJet 4.  The thing was a trooper, I had it for about 8 years, and it was pretty well-used when I got it.  I finally had to toss it when the paper outfeed mechanism irreparably broke down.</p>
<p>Since you already have the 5440, why not keep it around for when you absolutely need to print in color and get yourself a cheap B&amp;W laser printer for your default printer.  I have a HP LaserJet 1020 &#8211; works great, print quality is solid, and it cost about $100, new, as I recall.  The cartridges cost about $65 and they&#8217;re good for a couple thousand pages.  It doesn&#8217;t have a wireless port &#8211; I believe there&#8217;s a printer that&#8217;s essentially identical that does and costs about $50 more but I&#8217;m not sure what the model # is.</p>
<p>Any inkjet printer is gonna blow through ink and they charge you a fortune for refills &#8211; that&#8217;s the business model.</p>
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		<title>By: paulo</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP7130 here. It has a port for a wireless printserver but it is not good with ink. RGB is like a sieve. B&amp;W is better. 

I agree with comment above the hplaserjet4 is a workhorse. B&amp;W only and because I have only used it in an office I have no idea what a cartridge costs but that machine prints way more than my printer does. And when the ink fades you can shake the cartridge and get 10-20% more life out of it - no kidding!

I don&#039;t know if there is a wireless port for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP7130 here. It has a port for a wireless printserver but it is not good with ink. RGB is like a sieve. B&amp;W is better. </p>
<p>I agree with comment above the hplaserjet4 is a workhorse. B&amp;W only and because I have only used it in an office I have no idea what a cartridge costs but that machine prints way more than my printer does. And when the ink fades you can shake the cartridge and get 10-20% more life out of it &#8211; no kidding!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if there is a wireless port for it.</p>
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