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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/18/proof-the-campaign-is-over/#comment-127780</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Duros, I’d say that I missed that nuanced distinction during the course of the campaign.

Probably because it wasn’t being made back then.&lt;/i&gt;

You do get the distinction between candidate and President-elect, right?

New sheriff in town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Duros, I’d say that I missed that nuanced distinction during the course of the campaign.</p>
<p>Probably because it wasn’t being made back then.</i></p>
<p>You do get the distinction between candidate and President-elect, right?</p>
<p>New sheriff in town.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/18/proof-the-campaign-is-over/#comment-127691</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;it’s like he’s suddenly discovered pragmatism and reality, and plans to govern accordingly.&lt;/i&gt;

I would hardly call it a sudden discovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>it’s like he’s suddenly discovered pragmatism and reality, and plans to govern accordingly.</i></p>
<p>I would hardly call it a sudden discovery.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reality-Based Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/18/proof-the-campaign-is-over/#comment-127672</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reality-Based Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. Found the Hillary quote: &quot;I&#039;m not going to speculate or address anything about the president-elect&#039;s incoming administration, and I&#039;m going to respect his process.&quot; 





a few more &amp; I might hijack this thread back to its original ideas...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. Found the Hillary quote: &#8220;I&#8217;m not going to speculate or address anything about the president-elect&#8217;s incoming administration, and I&#8217;m going to respect his process.&#8221; </p>
<p>a few more &amp; I might hijack this thread back to its original ideas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Reality-Based Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/18/proof-the-campaign-is-over/#comment-127669</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reality-Based Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least Hillary clammed up when reporters tried questioning her. She didn&#039;t try stealing the spotlight. She demurred to Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Hillary clammed up when reporters tried questioning her. She didn&#8217;t try stealing the spotlight. She demurred to Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/18/proof-the-campaign-is-over/#comment-127663</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it rather unsurprising that you are confused, and that you have misunderstood the definition of &quot;progressive.&quot;
News we already knew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it rather unsurprising that you are confused, and that you have misunderstood the definition of &#8220;progressive.&#8221;<br />
News we already knew.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/18/proof-the-campaign-is-over/#comment-127660</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama, who is backtracking on so many of the things he campaigned on, is &quot;the best progressive politician in a generation,&quot; then I am confused. Either I have misunderstood what &quot;progressive&quot; meant, or the standard for &quot;best&quot; is seriously trivial.

But as I said, I welcome his move towards moderation and compromises of his campaign rhetoric with reality.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama, who is backtracking on so many of the things he campaigned on, is &#8220;the best progressive politician in a generation,&#8221; then I am confused. Either I have misunderstood what &#8220;progressive&#8221; meant, or the standard for &#8220;best&#8221; is seriously trivial.</p>
<p>But as I said, I welcome his move towards moderation and compromises of his campaign rhetoric with reality.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I feel so horrible that the best progressive politician in a generation is taking the country in a new direction after the absolute failure you championed for almost a decade of fail.

The horror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I feel so horrible that the best progressive politician in a generation is taking the country in a new direction after the absolute failure you championed for almost a decade of fail.</p>
<p>The horror.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/18/proof-the-campaign-is-over/#comment-127584</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duros, I&#039;d say that I missed that nuanced distinction during the course of the campaign.

Probably because it wasn&#039;t being made back then. And probably because at that point, Obama&#039;s absolute &quot;no lobbyists&quot; policy was still operative.  

I have to say I do find it slightly refreshing. Between Obama&#039;s bringing in so many recycled Clintonites, backing off on this and a bunch of other promises, and some other things, it&#039;s like he&#039;s suddenly discovered pragmatism and reality, and plans to govern accordingly. And that lets me hope that the next four years won&#039;t be as bad as I feared during the campaign.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duros, I&#8217;d say that I missed that nuanced distinction during the course of the campaign.</p>
<p>Probably because it wasn&#8217;t being made back then. And probably because at that point, Obama&#8217;s absolute &#8220;no lobbyists&#8221; policy was still operative.  </p>
<p>I have to say I do find it slightly refreshing. Between Obama&#8217;s bringing in so many recycled Clintonites, backing off on this and a bunch of other promises, and some other things, it&#8217;s like he&#8217;s suddenly discovered pragmatism and reality, and plans to govern accordingly. And that lets me hope that the next four years won&#8217;t be as bad as I feared during the campaign.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wednesday, November 12, 2008 01:05pm EST /
&lt;a href=&quot;http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/an_end_to_the_revolving_door/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;An end to the “revolving door”&lt;/a&gt;

President-elect Barack Obama imposed strict new ethics rules on the transition team yesterday, restricting what work former lobbyists can do for the team and barring registered lobbyists from donating to the transition or to inaugural events.

Transition team co-chair John Podesta characterized the policy as &quot;the strictest ethics rules ever applied.&quot;

Across the country, national leaders and ethics experts praised the decision.

&quot;As a professor who has taught a class on Lobbying and Ethics for many years, I want to commend President-elect Barack Obama for his historic new ethics rules,&quot; American University Professor James A. Thurber said. &quot;His campaign pledge to change the way Washington works with the lobbying industry became a reality yesterday....The new ethics rules are great for our democracy.&quot;

Fred Wertheimer, president of the non-partisan watchdog group Democracy 21, told USA Today that the rules are unique for a president-elect.

&quot;[The rules are] unlike anything that I have seen at the transition stage in 35 years,&quot; he said.

&lt;b&gt;At a press conference, a reporter asked Podesta about complaints from lobbyists who claim they have relevant expertise and say the policy leaves them &quot;out in the cold.&quot;

&quot;So be it,&quot; Podesta said, adding that the President-elect intends to enforce this policy in his administration so that the &quot;revolving door ceases to exist.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;

Thomas Mann of the Brookings Institution agreed, saying it&#039;s a worthwhile price to pay.

&quot;They will prevent some honorable people with rich experience from serving in the transition,&quot; he said. &quot;That is a real cost but it is more than balanced by the strong signal sent by the President-elect.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You were saying, Jay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wednesday, November 12, 2008 01:05pm EST /<br />
<a href="http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/an_end_to_the_revolving_door/" rel="nofollow">An end to the “revolving door”</a></p>
<p>President-elect Barack Obama imposed strict new ethics rules on the transition team yesterday, restricting what work former lobbyists can do for the team and barring registered lobbyists from donating to the transition or to inaugural events.</p>
<p>Transition team co-chair John Podesta characterized the policy as &#8220;the strictest ethics rules ever applied.&#8221;</p>
<p>Across the country, national leaders and ethics experts praised the decision.</p>
<p>&#8220;As a professor who has taught a class on Lobbying and Ethics for many years, I want to commend President-elect Barack Obama for his historic new ethics rules,&#8221; American University Professor James A. Thurber said. &#8220;His campaign pledge to change the way Washington works with the lobbying industry became a reality yesterday&#8230;.The new ethics rules are great for our democracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fred Wertheimer, president of the non-partisan watchdog group Democracy 21, told USA Today that the rules are unique for a president-elect.</p>
<p>&#8220;[The rules are] unlike anything that I have seen at the transition stage in 35 years,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p><b>At a press conference, a reporter asked Podesta about complaints from lobbyists who claim they have relevant expertise and say the policy leaves them &#8220;out in the cold.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;So be it,&#8221; Podesta said, adding that the President-elect intends to enforce this policy in his administration so that the &#8220;revolving door ceases to exist.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Thomas Mann of the Brookings Institution agreed, saying it&#8217;s a worthwhile price to pay.</p>
<p>&#8220;They will prevent some honorable people with rich experience from serving in the transition,&#8221; he said. &#8220;That is a real cost but it is more than balanced by the strong signal sent by the President-elect.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>You were saying, Jay?</p>
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		<title>By: Syco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So a few in his transition team equal the legion that was with McCain?

Better yet how dare you insult the harding working politicans of Chicago? You can not blame the many for the few. There are corrupt politicans in every city. Attacking Chicago just shows how far you will go to attack Obama. 

If we were talking about campaigns you could make the comparison but it is over. 

Seriously Jay let it go. If you have so much issue with what Oliver says stop reading it. No one is forcing you to come here everyday and post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So a few in his transition team equal the legion that was with McCain?</p>
<p>Better yet how dare you insult the harding working politicans of Chicago? You can not blame the many for the few. There are corrupt politicans in every city. Attacking Chicago just shows how far you will go to attack Obama. </p>
<p>If we were talking about campaigns you could make the comparison but it is over. </p>
<p>Seriously Jay let it go. If you have so much issue with what Oliver says stop reading it. No one is forcing you to come here everyday and post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/18/proof-the-campaign-is-over/#comment-127523</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver, absolutely you can write whatever you want. If you choose to turn a blind eye to the situation, that&#039;s completely within your rights.

Just like it&#039;s within your rights to insist that lobbyist influence is far more significant and corrosive and corrupting within a campaign than in a presidential administration.

I kinda feel sorry for you, Oliver... you had so much hope pinned on this guy, and he&#039;s turning out to be just another pol.

More disappointing, just another product of the astonishingly corrupt Chicago Democratic machine.

I&#039;d feel even worse for you if so many people hadn&#039;t warned folks about this.

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver, absolutely you can write whatever you want. If you choose to turn a blind eye to the situation, that&#8217;s completely within your rights.</p>
<p>Just like it&#8217;s within your rights to insist that lobbyist influence is far more significant and corrosive and corrupting within a campaign than in a presidential administration.</p>
<p>I kinda feel sorry for you, Oliver&#8230; you had so much hope pinned on this guy, and he&#8217;s turning out to be just another pol.</p>
<p>More disappointing, just another product of the astonishingly corrupt Chicago Democratic machine.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d feel even worse for you if so many people hadn&#8217;t warned folks about this.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t tell you how to write your blog, do I? And lobbyists werent running Obama&#039;s campaign like they were McCain&#039;s, nor was the campaign accepting their money like McCain&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t tell you how to write your blog, do I? And lobbyists werent running Obama&#8217;s campaign like they were McCain&#8217;s, nor was the campaign accepting their money like McCain&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/18/proof-the-campaign-is-over/#comment-127516</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still no commment on the dozen or so lobbyists Obama has put on his transition team? Gee, what a surprise...

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still no commment on the dozen or so lobbyists Obama has put on his transition team? Gee, what a surprise&#8230;</p>
<p>J.</p>
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