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Agreed. Awesome.
[...] obvious result of America becoming AWESOME again, like I thought of her when I was a kid. (Hat Tip: Oliver) I’m not pissed enough and the GOP fear machine has been rendered impotent. [...]
Three things he has Palin doesn’t; brains, an inquiring mind and a genuine interest in people. Four things if you count his…er…PhD.
“The janitor is a spy for the UN”-Ron Paul
Mylegacy, you mean his Phat hairy (censored)?
It’s always cheery here. Thx, Oliver for keeping the world sunny.
(After January, it’s the Economy again…not cheery..)
Not a surprise. My wife (a cynical foreigner whose family land was seized by their government) and I have been watching Obama for over a year, almost every televised word and action, and we’ve never seen anyone so remarkable in public life. At first he was too good to be true–surely he’d go off script one day, blow his cover, and we’d see the manipulative pol underneath. But no–only the real deal could be so consistent WITHOUT going off script for such a long campaign. He was who he seemed to be.
If Obama isn’t one of the great presidents, it will only be because we left him with the biggest godawful mess in history. I swear.
But remember folks, it’s Barack who’s the elitist.
Sorry. That snipe is kinda two weeks ago at this point.
bozo – At the same time, the great presidents are usually great precisely because they had to deal with big messes. It’s kinda hard to do a lot of memorable stuff in a democracy when everything seems to be going well, economy is good, and you don’t have serious foreign entaglements. You’re not remembered by history when most of your day is spent posing for pictures with visiting Boy Scouts and American Legion members.
I like the comment over there that’s like, “LENIN TALKED TO JANITORS TOO.” Jesus.
My grandfather always told me that the whole “marry somebody who’s nice to his mother” thing was stupid. Serial killers are nice to their mothers. He told me to marry somebody who’s nice to the server in the restaurant. The true test is how you treat people you could easily perceive to be below you on the social scale; do you kick them just because you think you can, or because you have to feel like a bigger guy, or whatever? Or are you as kind to them as you would be to an obviously wealthy person or a celebrity?
I have one aquaintance who likes to rag on the waitresses, comment about their tits, spill drinks on purpose, send food back, shit like that. He treats his wife and all the women he knows EXACTLY the same way. Gun-collecting Bible-humping racist Republican, of course.
I’m glad to see America’s shacking up with the guy who takes the time to talk to the cleaning crew and share a meal.
A.
“At the same time, the great presidents are usually great precisely because they had to deal with big messes.”
Sure, but this may be THE mess that drowns a potentially great president. I’m not a historian, but during Lincoln’s or FDR’s terms we weren’t in hock to the Chinese with an astronomical deficit, the government wasn’t so completely broke nor was our international prestige so tattered. Tell me if you think our predicament now isn’t worse than it’s ever been.
It occurs to me that if Lincoln hadn’t been able to perform one extraordinary act with the stroke of his pen he might not be remembered so fondly. All of Obama’s initiatives will require either $$, or a hell of a lot of legal/legislative work.
One thing he can do with the stroke of a pen is close Gitmo. Another thing would be to formally renounce torture. He can restore Habeus Corpus.
Are these things the equal of the Emancipation Proclamation? No. Will these things help the economy? No.
But they are very important.
Bruce: encouraging information. Still, taking everything together, this is arguably the worst mess since the foundation of the Republic.
I agree that we’re currently in a state of fuckery, bozo, but I think it’s just the distance of history that makes it seem worse than that what Lincoln or FDR had to deal with. Lincoln had a country nearly split in two over slavery and thousands upon thousands of Americans died fighting each other. The entire country was in a state of Iraq 2005. FDR oversaw a massive depression and then we became embroiled in a war where we were attacked…that is, a war that we could not withdraw from based on political stability, but a war we had to win to survive.
Things are bad now. I can’t believe that they weren’t worse then.
I’m aware of all that, Spider, but I’m not sure the Union was bankrupt in 1860 or in 1939 or whenever, or that our industrial base was so compromised or that our grandchildren were yet mortgaged to pay for not one, but two wars. I’d like to see detailed comparisons by an objective historian/economist about where we are now vs. then.
Athenae: My grandfather always told me that the whole “marry somebody who’s nice to his mother” thing was stupid. Serial killers are nice to their mothers. He told me to marry somebody who’s nice to the server in the restaurant.
Exactly.
“You can tell a lot about a persons character by how they treat people they don’t have to treat well.”