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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127495</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, now, come on, when has SNL ever had people of color?  

Garret Morris?  Clearly used as a token in the 1970s.  

Eddie Murphy?  He actually had to *beg* to be on the show!  Then he ends up saving the franchise in the early 80s (he and Piscopo were the only ones kept in a house-cleaning so there was *some* reward for him).  

There surely could have been others but it&#039;s pretty clear that Mr Michaels is color-blind ... and not in a good way ...

OTOH, the white folks on the show suck.  The last 10 years of Weekend Update anchors ... wait, the last 15 years ... wait.  OK, Weekend Update (and SNL Newsbreak) has pretty much sucked since Jane &quot;ignorant slut&quot; Curtain and Dan &quot;pompous ass&quot; Ackroyd left the desk (I love Billy Murray, but didn&#039;t care much for his WU work).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, now, come on, when has SNL ever had people of color?  </p>
<p>Garret Morris?  Clearly used as a token in the 1970s.  </p>
<p>Eddie Murphy?  He actually had to *beg* to be on the show!  Then he ends up saving the franchise in the early 80s (he and Piscopo were the only ones kept in a house-cleaning so there was *some* reward for him).  </p>
<p>There surely could have been others but it&#8217;s pretty clear that Mr Michaels is color-blind &#8230; and not in a good way &#8230;</p>
<p>OTOH, the white folks on the show suck.  The last 10 years of Weekend Update anchors &#8230; wait, the last 15 years &#8230; wait.  OK, Weekend Update (and SNL Newsbreak) has pretty much sucked since Jane &#8220;ignorant slut&#8221; Curtain and Dan &#8220;pompous ass&#8221; Ackroyd left the desk (I love Billy Murray, but didn&#8217;t care much for his WU work).</p>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127339</link>
		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;She did write the script for Mean Girls, which, in my opinion, is a very funny movie&lt;/i&gt;

Agreed -- I think Fey does best when she&#039;s riffing off something real that she has experienced or has factual material for. &quot;Mean Girls&quot; is partly based on a nonfiction study of teenage girls&#039; interactions (and probably partly based on the traumas of a teenaged Fey). &quot;30 Rock,&quot; of course, is based on Fey&#039;s experiences working at &quot;SNL.&quot; I have no idea what Baby Momma was supposed to be based on, and I think the detachment from reality was part of why it sucked -- both main characters were unsympathetically unreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>She did write the script for Mean Girls, which, in my opinion, is a very funny movie</i></p>
<p>Agreed &#8212; I think Fey does best when she&#8217;s riffing off something real that she has experienced or has factual material for. &#8220;Mean Girls&#8221; is partly based on a nonfiction study of teenage girls&#8217; interactions (and probably partly based on the traumas of a teenaged Fey). &#8220;30 Rock,&#8221; of course, is based on Fey&#8217;s experiences working at &#8220;SNL.&#8221; I have no idea what Baby Momma was supposed to be based on, and I think the detachment from reality was part of why it sucked &#8212; both main characters were unsympathetically unreal.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127333</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Maya Rudolph is actually returning to play Michelle Obama...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/24/snl-casts-michelle-obama_n_137547.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Maya Rudolph is actually returning to play Michelle Obama&#8230;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/24/snl-casts-michelle-obama_n_137547.html</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127329</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I will watch it if a band I like is performing,&lt;/i&gt;

Is it just me and my old technology, or has the sound mix sucked all season?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I will watch it if a band I like is performing,</i></p>
<p>Is it just me and my old technology, or has the sound mix sucked all season?</p>
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		<title>By: AltonDarwin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127323</link>
		<dc:creator>AltonDarwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Angela Shelton (of Frangela)?  She has a Chicago background and is HILARIOUS, especially on political and social issues.  I would weep for the dissolution of one of my favorite comedy duos, but she would be a great fit every now and then for the requisite Michelle sketches.

I love Maya, but her impression was even worse than Armisen&#039;s.  Obama does have some identifiable vocal quirks, but Fred hasn&#039;t nailed them yet.  Michelle, on the other hand, isn&#039;t quite so easy.  She&#039;s a graceful, articulate, supportive wife and will be an EXCELLENT First Lady.  Frankly, SNL was fine without lampooning Laura Bush.  I&#039;m not so sure there&#039;s a lot of comedy gold to be found in either Obama.

Thank goodness Sarah Palin doesn&#039;t seem to be going anywhere.  I guess they&#039;ll have to get one of the noobs up to speed to replace Tina Fey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Angela Shelton (of Frangela)?  She has a Chicago background and is HILARIOUS, especially on political and social issues.  I would weep for the dissolution of one of my favorite comedy duos, but she would be a great fit every now and then for the requisite Michelle sketches.</p>
<p>I love Maya, but her impression was even worse than Armisen&#8217;s.  Obama does have some identifiable vocal quirks, but Fred hasn&#8217;t nailed them yet.  Michelle, on the other hand, isn&#8217;t quite so easy.  She&#8217;s a graceful, articulate, supportive wife and will be an EXCELLENT First Lady.  Frankly, SNL was fine without lampooning Laura Bush.  I&#8217;m not so sure there&#8217;s a lot of comedy gold to be found in either Obama.</p>
<p>Thank goodness Sarah Palin doesn&#8217;t seem to be going anywhere.  I guess they&#8217;ll have to get one of the noobs up to speed to replace Tina Fey.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel rotter</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel rotter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tina Fey is way over-rated&quot;.

She did write the script for Mean Girls, which, in my opinion, is a very funny movie (and probably the only good thing that Lindsay Lohan has ever appeared in).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tina Fey is way over-rated&#8221;.</p>
<p>She did write the script for Mean Girls, which, in my opinion, is a very funny movie (and probably the only good thing that Lindsay Lohan has ever appeared in).</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SNL has been so lame for so long.  Once in a while they have a good sketch, but I don&#039;t have the patience to sit through 80 minutes of crap any longer.

I will watch it if a band I like is performing, but Tina Fey is way over-rated.

What was that sucktastic movie she made recently?  Baby Momma?  Did _anybody_ go see that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SNL has been so lame for so long.  Once in a while they have a good sketch, but I don&#8217;t have the patience to sit through 80 minutes of crap any longer.</p>
<p>I will watch it if a band I like is performing, but Tina Fey is way over-rated.</p>
<p>What was that sucktastic movie she made recently?  Baby Momma?  Did _anybody_ go see that?</p>
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		<title>By: William Burns</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127314</link>
		<dc:creator>William Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danitra Vance.  Ah, how soon we forget. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danitra Vance.  Ah, how soon we forget. . .</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127308</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring back Kel! I love orange soda!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring back Kel! I love orange soda!</p>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127306</link>
		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the upside, Beyonce is guest starring this week, so she might get Michelle Obama duty in a sketch where Mrs. Obama doesn&#039;t have to speak much (or who knows, maybe being a singer helps one do voice impersonations also).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the upside, Beyonce is guest starring this week, so she might get Michelle Obama duty in a sketch where Mrs. Obama doesn&#8217;t have to speak much (or who knows, maybe being a singer helps one do voice impersonations also).</p>
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		<title>By: Vic</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127304</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It disturbs me that SNL will outlive us all, simply because of tradition. Yet, we&#039;re discussing it today all because of you-know-who. If only McCain had chosen a frothing rightist tapeworm who didn&#039;t look like Tina Fey...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It disturbs me that SNL will outlive us all, simply because of tradition. Yet, we&#8217;re discussing it today all because of you-know-who. If only McCain had chosen a frothing rightist tapeworm who didn&#8217;t look like Tina Fey&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous37</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127283</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous37</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s have some sympathy for Lorne here:  he couldn&#039;t find a black comedienne because BLACK PEOPLE AREN&#039;T FUNNY.

Richard Pryor?  White man in makeup.  Eddie Murphy?  White man in makeup.  Alan Keyes?

Well, actually Alan Keyes is black.  And he &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; hilarious.  And he&#039;s not even trying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s have some sympathy for Lorne here:  he couldn&#8217;t find a black comedienne because BLACK PEOPLE AREN&#8217;T FUNNY.</p>
<p>Richard Pryor?  White man in makeup.  Eddie Murphy?  White man in makeup.  Alan Keyes?</p>
<p>Well, actually Alan Keyes is black.  And he <b>is</b> hilarious.  And he&#8217;s not even trying.</p>
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		<title>By: mike in dc</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127279</link>
		<dc:creator>mike in dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Fred Armisen...when he&#039;s playing Prince or doing other characters on the show. But I don&#039;t want to see him playing Obama for the next 4 years.  Would it kill them to hire an African-American to play the president?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Fred Armisen&#8230;when he&#8217;s playing Prince or doing other characters on the show. But I don&#8217;t want to see him playing Obama for the next 4 years.  Would it kill them to hire an African-American to play the president?</p>
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		<title>By: jr</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127276</link>
		<dc:creator>jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SNL should be cancelled like MAD TV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SNL should be cancelled like MAD TV</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127265</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kennan must be getting tired of playing &lt;b&gt;every&lt;/b&gt; black woman ever.

Bring back Kel, I say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kennan must be getting tired of playing <b>every</b> black woman ever.</p>
<p>Bring back Kel, I say!</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127260</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had heard that &lt;i&gt;SNL&lt;/i&gt; came to see Second City Chicago&#039;s critically-acclaimed &lt;i&gt;Campaign Supernova&lt;/i&gt; specifically to scout the woman playing Michelle Obama in the revue. I haven&#039;t seen the show, so I have no opinion as to the quality of this woman&#039;s Michelle impersonation, but surely even somebody who wasn&#039;t perfect would be better than nobody at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had heard that <i>SNL</i> came to see Second City Chicago&#8217;s critically-acclaimed <i>Campaign Supernova</i> specifically to scout the woman playing Michelle Obama in the revue. I haven&#8217;t seen the show, so I have no opinion as to the quality of this woman&#8217;s Michelle impersonation, but surely even somebody who wasn&#8217;t perfect would be better than nobody at all.</p>
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		<title>By: KXB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KXB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I do miss Queen Shanequa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I do miss Queen Shanequa.</p>
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		<title>By: D.R.Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/14/snl-whiffs-again/#comment-127247</link>
		<dc:creator>D.R.Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As David Bryne said, &quot;Same as it ever was.&quot;

Seriously though, hasn&#039;t &quot;Saturday Night Live&quot; always been a white &quot;Boyz Only!&quot; from the beginning? It says something about how damned hard Garrett Morris had to work to make the table scraps they gave him funny.

Even during the “glory years” with the Not Ready For Prime Time Players, however, I thought SNL just wasn’t that funny. Oh sure, there were always random moments of savage comedic brilliance, but most of the time I felt as though I needed a few shots and a bong hit for the jokes to work.

I thought shows like &lt;i&gt;SCTV&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;In Living Color&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;The Upright Citizens Brigade&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;The Kids in The Hall&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;MADtv&lt;/i&gt; were much funnier. My laughter wasn&#039;t an accident. More importantly, there was a genuine subversive ideology there that SNL didn&#039;t have. SNL reeked with White Male privilege. It also helped that these shows were shorter, unlike SNL&#039;s bloated hour and a half. But then, it made it easier to show more commercials for those corporate sponsers  Lorne Michaels sucked up to, huh?

What happened to Tina Fey was the same thing that happened to Eddie Murphy years. SNL was so bad, that they gave Murphy total creative freedom because the show was terrible and he was the &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; funny performer in the cast. What does it tell you that when Fey brilliantly channeled Sarah Palin during her guest appearances, SNL got its highest ratings in years?

&quot;Saturday Night Live&quot; has been dead to me for years. I wish somebody would thrust a stake into its heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As David Bryne said, &#8220;Same as it ever was.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously though, hasn&#8217;t &#8220;Saturday Night Live&#8221; always been a white &#8220;Boyz Only!&#8221; from the beginning? It says something about how damned hard Garrett Morris had to work to make the table scraps they gave him funny.</p>
<p>Even during the “glory years” with the Not Ready For Prime Time Players, however, I thought SNL just wasn’t that funny. Oh sure, there were always random moments of savage comedic brilliance, but most of the time I felt as though I needed a few shots and a bong hit for the jokes to work.</p>
<p>I thought shows like <i>SCTV</i>, <i>In Living Color</i>, <i>The Upright Citizens Brigade</i>, <i>The Kids in The Hall</i>, and <i>MADtv</i> were much funnier. My laughter wasn&#8217;t an accident. More importantly, there was a genuine subversive ideology there that SNL didn&#8217;t have. SNL reeked with White Male privilege. It also helped that these shows were shorter, unlike SNL&#8217;s bloated hour and a half. But then, it made it easier to show more commercials for those corporate sponsers  Lorne Michaels sucked up to, huh?</p>
<p>What happened to Tina Fey was the same thing that happened to Eddie Murphy years. SNL was so bad, that they gave Murphy total creative freedom because the show was terrible and he was the <i>only</i> funny performer in the cast. What does it tell you that when Fey brilliantly channeled Sarah Palin during her guest appearances, SNL got its highest ratings in years?</p>
<p>&#8220;Saturday Night Live&#8221; has been dead to me for years. I wish somebody would thrust a stake into its heart.</p>
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