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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-127055</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the hell, I never chose an avatar. What is this crap?</description>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-127054</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Amazing that the public knows more about the background of Joe The Plumber than President-elect Obama.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m pretty sure that&#039;s just you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Amazing that the public knows more about the background of Joe The Plumber than President-elect Obama.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that&#8217;s just you.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-127051</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But he would still have to pay them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But he would still have to pay them.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126934</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The icing on that maneuver, CB, would be to remind him that the salary for that job is still not high enough to raise his taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The icing on that maneuver, CB, would be to remind him that the salary for that job is still not high enough to raise his taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: canadian bacon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126880</link>
		<dc:creator>canadian bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Obama should reach across the aisle and offer JTP the plumb position as Chief of Janitorial Staff.  This should calm the far rights&#039;s obvious jitters, that I&#039;m really enjoying hearing, underneath all of their fiend bravado about a new age for conservatism.  I think the olive branch extended would be a diplomatic coup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Obama should reach across the aisle and offer JTP the plumb position as Chief of Janitorial Staff.  This should calm the far rights&#8217;s obvious jitters, that I&#8217;m really enjoying hearing, underneath all of their fiend bravado about a new age for conservatism.  I think the olive branch extended would be a diplomatic coup.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126876</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I still like William Hung…&quot;

... Please leave the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I still like William Hung…&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; Please leave the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: SpiderJ</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126867</link>
		<dc:creator>SpiderJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PG pretty much said it, but I also want to know where I can read a copy of Joe the Plumber&#039;s equivalent to &lt;i&gt;Memories from My Father&lt;/i&gt;, which would tell you an awful lot about Obama if you could bother yourself to read it and if you could engage your brain enough to retain and comprehend the language therein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PG pretty much said it, but I also want to know where I can read a copy of Joe the Plumber&#8217;s equivalent to <i>Memories from My Father</i>, which would tell you an awful lot about Obama if you could bother yourself to read it and if you could engage your brain enough to retain and comprehend the language therein.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126865</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still like William Hung...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still like William Hung&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Squid</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126860</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Jay: Paying attention is for liberals, who I so want to see beaten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter Jay: Paying attention is for liberals, who I so want to see beaten.</p>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,


&lt;i&gt;Amazing that the public knows more about the background of Joe The Plumber than President-elect Obama. &lt;/i&gt;

You keep saying this. Please tell me the following background information about JtP, all of which I can recite from memory regarding Obama:

1. Where was he born, city and state? (according to himself, at least)
2. Where did he go to high school?
3. Where, if anywhere, does he attend church? If he is not a current church-goer, has he been baptized, and if so, by whom?
4. What are the names of his ex-wife and child(ren)?
5. Does he have living grandparents or parents? If so, what are their names?

If you can&#039;t answer all of these questions about JtP off the top of your head, or even with a Google search to jog your memory, you really need to stop with the above-noted lie that we know more about JtP than we do about Obama. I know what Obama&#039;s freaking brother-in-laws does for a living; I know more about Obama than I really ever wanted to know about anyone who wasn&#039;t a relative of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p><i>Amazing that the public knows more about the background of Joe The Plumber than President-elect Obama. </i></p>
<p>You keep saying this. Please tell me the following background information about JtP, all of which I can recite from memory regarding Obama:</p>
<p>1. Where was he born, city and state? (according to himself, at least)<br />
2. Where did he go to high school?<br />
3. Where, if anywhere, does he attend church? If he is not a current church-goer, has he been baptized, and if so, by whom?<br />
4. What are the names of his ex-wife and child(ren)?<br />
5. Does he have living grandparents or parents? If so, what are their names?</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t answer all of these questions about JtP off the top of your head, or even with a Google search to jog your memory, you really need to stop with the above-noted lie that we know more about JtP than we do about Obama. I know what Obama&#8217;s freaking brother-in-laws does for a living; I know more about Obama than I really ever wanted to know about anyone who wasn&#8217;t a relative of mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126830</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, parth. I&#039;m reading Shock doctrine right now and the overwhelming sense i get from it so far is that Milton Friedman was a turd. Libertarian economics is like the Sorcerer&#039;s Stone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, parth. I&#8217;m reading Shock doctrine right now and the overwhelming sense i get from it so far is that Milton Friedman was a turd. Libertarian economics is like the Sorcerer&#8217;s Stone.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126819</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, I understand and even to an extent respect libertarian economics. I&#039;ve really tried to understand the philosophy, though it isn&#039;t my own. I understand that the ideology encourages some people to think big, live big and achieve and be ambitious. It&#039;s just that societies work better (that is, more people have better lives) under the Northwestern European economic model. From everything I have read this is indisputable. And I have to place objective observation over any preference for ideology. 

I&#039;m not so sure anymore that libertarians really much care about objective measures like life expectancy, school performance, infant mortality, etc. It&#039;s starting to seem like they have their beliefs about how things &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; operate, whether or not that results in a better life for plenty at the bottom and a not-appreciably worse life for those at the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, I understand and even to an extent respect libertarian economics. I&#8217;ve really tried to understand the philosophy, though it isn&#8217;t my own. I understand that the ideology encourages some people to think big, live big and achieve and be ambitious. It&#8217;s just that societies work better (that is, more people have better lives) under the Northwestern European economic model. From everything I have read this is indisputable. And I have to place objective observation over any preference for ideology. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure anymore that libertarians really much care about objective measures like life expectancy, school performance, infant mortality, etc. It&#8217;s starting to seem like they have their beliefs about how things <i>should</i> operate, whether or not that results in a better life for plenty at the bottom and a not-appreciably worse life for those at the top.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Amazing that the public knows more about the background of Joe The Plumber than President-elect Obama.&quot;

It&#039;s amazing how much you lie. 

&quot;Translation: Their party doesn’t promise as many free government goodies as the Democratic party.&quot;

Case in point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Amazing that the public knows more about the background of Joe The Plumber than President-elect Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how much you lie. </p>
<p>&#8220;Translation: Their party doesn’t promise as many free government goodies as the Democratic party.&#8221;</p>
<p>Case in point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing that the public knows more about the background of Joe The Plumber than President-elect Obama. 

&lt;i&gt;when your policies are generally hostile (or at least less favorable relative to the other party) to the little guy.&lt;/i&gt;

Translation: Their party doesn&#039;t promise as many free government goodies as the Democratic party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing that the public knows more about the background of Joe The Plumber than President-elect Obama. </p>
<p><i>when your policies are generally hostile (or at least less favorable relative to the other party) to the little guy.</i></p>
<p>Translation: Their party doesn&#8217;t promise as many free government goodies as the Democratic party.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126808</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine they&#039;ll keep him around for the simple reason that it&#039;s difficult to position yourself as the party of the little guy when your policies are generally hostile (or at least less favorable relative to the other party) to the little guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine they&#8217;ll keep him around for the simple reason that it&#8217;s difficult to position yourself as the party of the little guy when your policies are generally hostile (or at least less favorable relative to the other party) to the little guy.</p>
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		<title>By: midderpidge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126798</link>
		<dc:creator>midderpidge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From The Colbert Report Oct. 22, 2008

    I for one appreciate the McCain campaign treating us like children. McCain will bring us back to a simpler time. A time when you could identify your neighbors&#039; jobs by the hats they wore. Like Sam the Fireman, Bill the Cowboy and Jose the stereotype. These are the people in your neighborhood. The people that you meet when you&#039;re walking down the street. They&#039;re the people that you meet each day. And what the people in your neighborhood, the Joe the Plumber, the Wendy the Waitress need are tax cuts for the wealthy and off shore drilling. They don&#039;t need universal health care or last names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From The Colbert Report Oct. 22, 2008</p>
<p>    I for one appreciate the McCain campaign treating us like children. McCain will bring us back to a simpler time. A time when you could identify your neighbors&#8217; jobs by the hats they wore. Like Sam the Fireman, Bill the Cowboy and Jose the stereotype. These are the people in your neighborhood. The people that you meet when you&#8217;re walking down the street. They&#8217;re the people that you meet each day. And what the people in your neighborhood, the Joe the Plumber, the Wendy the Waitress need are tax cuts for the wealthy and off shore drilling. They don&#8217;t need universal health care or last names.</p>
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		<title>By: TGrundy</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126795</link>
		<dc:creator>TGrundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn,his 15 minutes ain&#039;t up yet?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn,his 15 minutes ain&#8217;t up yet?!</p>
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		<title>By: durablend</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/11/10/joe-the-plumber/#comment-126794</link>
		<dc:creator>durablend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get him on Celebrity Survivor...we&#039;ll see how much a &quot;so called&quot; plumber can cope in some desolate locale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get him on Celebrity Survivor&#8230;we&#8217;ll see how much a &#8220;so called&#8221; plumber can cope in some desolate locale</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOOO!!!

I want him to stick around and be an embarrassment to the GOP for a long, long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOOO!!!</p>
<p>I want him to stick around and be an embarrassment to the GOP for a long, long time.</p>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think John McCain’s other-worldly attachment to Joe Plumber helped sink his campaign.&lt;/i&gt;

Reminds me of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/fanficrants/7474890.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fan-fic critique&lt;/a&gt; of this election:

&quot;Even worse, your John McCain is completely OOC. That man&#039;s a war hero, he&#039;s not going to suddenly, I don&#039;t know, campaign with a fake plumber or something, just to make your character look better.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think John McCain’s other-worldly attachment to Joe Plumber helped sink his campaign.</i></p>
<p>Reminds me of the <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/fanficrants/7474890.html" rel="nofollow">fan-fic critique</a> of this election:</p>
<p>&#8220;Even worse, your John McCain is completely OOC. That man&#8217;s a war hero, he&#8217;s not going to suddenly, I don&#8217;t know, campaign with a fake plumber or something, just to make your character look better.&#8221;</p>
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