You would lose that bet, because one of Jay Tea’s biggest weaknesses is figuring out when he is wrong. No matter what happens, he would think he’s won.

Given your track record, I’d take that bet.

I’ll stop telling you to shut the fuck up when you stop saying things that are stupid.

This is your fault. You are the moron here. If you were learn, I wouldn’t have to keep telling you to shut the fuck up.

You said, We’ll have to wait and see, midder… but filibustering doesn’t mean that the filibusterers (man, what an awkward word) take any responsibility. Look at the Democrats who killed the aforementioned Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac reforms earlier in this decade…

I made the mistake of thinking that two sentences, one right after the other in the same paragraph, had some relevance to each other. Sorry to assume that about your writing.

Contemporaneous evidence of Democrats threatening to filibuster the FM regulation bill, please. Democrats just saying that they didn’t like the bill =/= filibuster threat. Cf. Democratic action on Bush nominations for appellate judges, where I can find you plenty of newspaper articles where they were, in fact, articulating a threat of filibuster.

(Damn, I’m dating myself there…)

J.

And you’ve been wrong, so shut the fuck up.

“For eight years, I’ve heard that ‘dissent is the highest form of patriotism.’ Guess that’s all gone, with the new ‘Hope and Change’ agenda…”

There’s dissent, and then there’s stupidity. Your bleatings fall under the latter category. If you have something intelligent to say, say it. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

J.

Jay Tea, again, do you have any contemporaneous documentation of a filibuster? Do you know what a filibuster is? It is an action taken in the Senate to preclude a vote. A unanimous vote by Democrats against a bill (with the exception of Hollings, what the Dems did on Gramm-Leach-Bliley, for example) is NOT A FILIBUSTER. Please come back when you learn how to use the English language accurately. Also, if you realize that you have made an assertion that you cannot back up, please have the balls to admit that you said something that you have heard from other right-wingers but cannot actually document factually and therefore will get called on in a non-rightwing forum.

Then again there’s a fine line between circumspection and ‘bending over.’

And we may return the favor when you criticize something that the Obama administration and the dem-dominated congress actually _does_. As long as you’re dyspeptically imagining what they _might_ do we’ll just call you what you are: a sorehead.

Also, as long as you continue to wail on the Fannie Mae mote in the democrats’ eye while ignoring the great deregulation beam in the republicans’, we’ll call you what you are: a real wanker of a tool.

But credit where it is due: J.T. is far from the worst of the bunch. For a real hard-on look at preemptive O.D.S. just take a gander at what’s going on at The Corner or Michelle Malkin.

You can find plenty of examples of me saying that dissenters are wrong-headed and stupid and inviting disaster, but saying that they are treasonous? I toss that around very, very carefully. And I’ve mocked and derided and scorned those who do use it casually.

J.

Yes, it is, and even though you’ve spent the last eight years saying the opposite, it still applies to you.

However, you’ll need to wait until the Obama administration pulls off a fuckup like Iraq or Katrina or the Gonzo DOJ for your dissent to sound like anything besides sour grapes on crack.

Guess I’ll just have to practice the New Patriotism and work on cheerfully parroting the latest talking points from the Obama administration…

That’s gonna take a LOT of work.

J.

Riiiiight.

Fuck you. The Republicans have been calling Liberals anti-American for years and you want to call us sore winners? You can just fuck off and die.

“Sean, I’m no financial expert…”

So shut the fuck up already.

“I know that…”

You know nothing, Jay Tea. If you think Fannie/Freddie caused this financial meltdown, then you know less than nothing.

And that’s where I stopped reading. Thank you for putting that upfront, Jay Tea. It looks like you saved me a lot of time and brain cells. Much appreciated.

You’ve got it from the horse’s mouth right there folks. When JT is right, the country does not benefit.