Cleaning Out The Stables
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To start with, we need to go through the Justice Department and weed out all those unqualified yahoos who got their jobs because they love Ronald Reagan.
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…and hate gay people. And swear allegiance to Dear Leader instead of the Constitution. And are deeply, deeply stupid. Those people. There’s lots of ‘em. Get ‘em out of there.
Well, yes, Oliver. I’ve been saying the same thing for the last several years, and so have many of us. It deserves being said now, and repeated as often as possible, because the DoJ is really an Augean stable of massive proportions. That’s to say, for those who never read up on Greek myths, that the place has become so full of horseshit over the last 8 years that getting it all out will be a monumental task. Especially since much of that manure walks, talks, smiles, and claims there’s no difference between their political leanings and the administration of the law.
We can’t afford to keep the bible thumpers in there. Hopefully the people Obama appoints will agree with this, though his very centrist viewpoint and cautious personality may make him over-inclined to be conciliatory to the very elements that have torn apart the US and its laws. We’ll just have to wait, and see. And hope.
All we need is someone strong enough to divert the course of the Potomac River, then.
First step — anyone with a degree from Regents, please pack your things and head to the door.
Clean out the DoJ, then prosecute the GOP for their crimes. The guilty need to pay before the country can start to heal, and there are more than enough crimes to last the first term.
My suspicion is that President-Elect Obama (damn it felt good to type that) will have to clean out a lot more of the Executive Branch than just Justice. But agreed: it’s most outrageous at the DOJ.
CSS: then prosecute the GOP for their crimes. The guilty need to pay before the country can start to heal
Absolutely. It isn’t driven by a desire for revenge or to “get them” just to get them. It has to be shown that you cannot, cannot abuse the powers of public office and then walk away unpunished out of the mistaken idea that “we need to move past this”.
All it shows instead is that the justice system is not to be applied to all. And the next crowd in power will believe that they can do whatever they want because when, inevitably, they are in turn voted out there will be no consequences to their abuses.
Can Bush pardon himself?
A politically savvy friend of mine thinks that Obama will have such a huge task of reclamation (I guess “Reclamation We Can Believe In” wouldn’t have flown) that his first term will be hobbled by the awesomeness of it and he’ll be a one-term president.
I hope he underestimates Obama loyalists and the attention-span and fairness of the American people, not to mention President Obama’s abiding political skills.
More to the point, can bush grant a blanket pardon for everyone in his administration?
I’m glad this is one stall we won’t have to deal with.
fucking grifters.
“More to the point, can bush grant a blanket pardon for everyone in his administration?”
You can’t grant pardons to people who haven’t been convicted of crimes. My fear is that the corporate DC crowd that hangs around Obama will urge him to ignore the crimes, or barring there, grant pardons. Remember, Obama’s chief legal council went to bat for Libby on Huffington Post, beseeching people tearfully that the felon was hurt enough by his conviction, and didn’t need to, well, you know, be treated like other felons.
Now we’ll see how many progressives there are, and how many spineless, whining toadies there are.
Nixon was never convicted of a crime and there was even talk then if he could pardon himself before resigning.
fucking grifters.
She’s not doing anything different for herself now that she didn’t do while she was Wasilla mayor or governor. For that matter, she didn’t do anything different for herself that Alaska doesn’t to the rest of the country.
authoritarian cultists get the bozack
Patrick Fitzgerald for Attorney General!! Deputy Attorney General should be Navy Lt. Cmdr. Charles D. Swift !!
“Nixon…there was even talk then if he could pardon himself before resigning.”
Art. II Sec. 2 of The Constitution;
The president “shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
Small potaoes anyway. Once Dubya and The Dick become private citizens, they had better think twice about traveling abroad -Lessons learned by Augusto Pinochet on his trip to London in 1998.
You can’t grant pardons to people who haven’t been convicted of crimes.
Is that right? I thought Bush Sr. pardoned several folks shortly before leaving office who hadn’t yet been convicted. Wasn’t Weinburger indicted but not yet convicted?
She’s not doing anything different for herself now that she didn’t do while she was Wasilla mayor or governor.
Exactly my point.
Once Dubya and The Dick become private citizens, they had better think twice about traveling abroad
Or to areas of New Hampshire. There’s still a warrant out for their arrest.
Gerald Ford proved that you can, indeed, pardon people who haven’t been convicted.
Can Bush pardon himself?
Or would he have to pardon Cheney, resign, then have Cheney pardon him?
If they do do that, I think Obama’s first act as president should be to have those to ‘renditioned’ to an undisclosed location and left there.
But it was also said that Ford’s pardon wouldn’t stand a chance in a court, if the matter was pushed. Point was, it wasn’t pushed.
It’s like trying to shoe a horse when you haven’t got a horse. You simply can’t pardon when there’s nothing to pardon for.
Now, I’m all for determining if we have a bunch of people who needs. Yes, yes, indeed.
Patrick Fitzgerald for Attorney General!!
Actually, Mr. Fitzgerald is expected to be fired soon after Obama’s swearing in as payback for prosecuting Tony Rezko.
Supporting the politically motivated firings of US Attorneys and DOJ officials? Guess all that outrage was just feighned, huh?
Farris, please.
You and I and everyone here knows that it is customary for an incoming President to replace USAs. They do, as you and your ilk have noted, serve at the pleasure of the President. don’t try to make some “there” there when there is none.
“You can’t grant pardons to people who haven’t been convicted of crimes.”
Uh…
Wrong.
Bush sr pardoned Weinburger before Weinburger went to trial.
Linky:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/lost11.html
When Democrats were talking about politically-motivated firings of U.S. attorneys, it wasn’t because Bush removed some at the beginning of his administration. It was because he fired them if they didn’t prosecute the specific people he wanted prosecuted. There is no way to uphold equal justice under the law if U.S. attorneys make prosecutorial decisions based on what the president wants, especially when what the president wants is to chase down nonexistent voting fraud supposedly perpetrated by Democrats. THAT is what was being called “politically-motivated firings.”
Also, who has this expectation that Fitzpatrick will be fired, and is it based on anything more than “by the pricking of [your] thumbs”?
Except that we just put him up in a flat for a couple of years (because Thatcher, like most right-wingers still thinks he was GREAT, and for some reason we still listened to her ten years ago) and then let him out scot free because he pretended to be crazy. You know, like the last episode of Blackadder, except instead of Rowan Atkinson it was an unrepentant fascist murderer.
SaveFarris: Actually, Mr. Fitzgerald is expected to be fired soon after Obama’s swearing in as payback for prosecuting Tony Rezko.
Supporting the politically motivated firings of US Attorneys and DOJ officials? Guess all that outrage was just feighned, huh?
And teh dumb just continues to roll along.
First, notice that a link is provided for the politically motivated firings, but none for the claim that Fitzgerald is to be fired. And given the specific nature of the claim, that he’s going to be fired “as payback”, some support is really needed. Typical Farris and his ilk. We’re supposed to believe it is so just because they say so.
Second, as noted earlier it is standard practice for USA’s and other political appointees to be replaced when an administration changes. This long-standing practice is not at all comparable to firing USAs because they specifically refuse to engage in politically motivated prosecutions. Typical Farris that he’s too dumb to see this.
Didn’t provide a link because more than one link would have put me in Moderation Purgatory. So, as the cool kids say, fixed.
IOKIYAD
Did I get that right?
A column from John Kass, who is not Obama friendly, and even HE says, Both John McCain and Barack Obama have promised to keep Fitzgerald here. … Back in March, Obama visited the Tribune’s editorial board. He said that if elected president, he would keep Fitzgerald in place.
“I still think he’s doing a good job,” said Obama. “I think he has been aggressive in putting the city on notice and the state on notice that he takes issues of public corruption seriously.”
So basically your claim that Obama would toss Fitzpatrick has exactly zero to do with anything Obama has said or done, and is based on the same old “HE’S FROM CHICAGO!” terror that caused people to tell me earlier in this election that Rezko’s trial certainly would bring up information that would torpedo Obama’s chances.
I think the shredding bill for the administration for these last months will be through the roof. I wouldn’t be surprised if the overtime frenzy of document shredding doesn’t accidently spark a fire in the White House, which will burn uncontrollably thanks to the entire building being stuffed with bags full of strips of paper awaiting trash day.
Hilarious, Farris. The linky link you linkily linked to does NOT prove that “Fitzgerald is to be fired…”
Where did you learn your linking techniques? At Jay Tea’s place?
SaveFarris: Actually, Mr. Fitzgerald is expected to be fired soon after Obama’s swearing in as payback for prosecuting Tony Rezko.
SDM: First, notice that [no link is provided] for the claim that Fitzgerald is to be fired. And given the specific nature of the claim, that he’s going to be fired “as payback”, some support is really needed.
SaveFarris: So, as the cool kids say, fixed.
Article linked to:
So, as teh cool kids say, typical Farris flail and fail.
because Thatcher, like most right-wingers still thinks he was GREAT
They both went to the Chicago School together.
IOKIYAD
Did I get that right?
Wait a couple of months.