OK. Thanks. Two things, tho.

First, that’s their 2004 platform. It’s not so long ago and not that much different from their current (2008) platform. It’s a minor point, but when talking about what they state probably best to look at their most recent statement. If we could go back to what they said in 2004, then why not go back to 2000, or 1980, or 1864?

Second, and far more relevant, where in there do “they state that an entire group of Americans aren’t human”?

Answer: They don’t. So please don’t say they do, and then provide a link showing they don’t as if that supports your claim.

The 2nd, 3rd, and 5th items in particular.

Which section is that in? I’ve scanned (admittedly, not read word for word) thru the obvious sections of their platform and didn’t find that.

Can you provide a reference?

Kinda hard to argue against this when they state that an entire group of Americans aren’t human in their platform…

Anyone other than SaveFarris who apparently thinks a) Democracy is too hard and b) only big cities are “real America” and should count.

Easy. Look at what happened in 2000. The difference in vote totals between Chimpy and Gore the Magnificent was 0.0002%. An election that close meant EVERY vote meant something and each individual chad was judged with a tense nation watching. But all the nuttiness was constrained within a single state.

Now imagine if the election had been that close on a nationwide level. Instead of hyper-scrutinizing 2.5 million ballots, now we’re hyper-scrutinizing 100 Million. Every single ballot and every single machine at every single precint.

Bedlam. Chaos. Cats and Dogs living together. Mass Hysteria!

Plus, there’s the whole “If it was a straight popular vote, the smallest town a candidate would ever visit would be St. Louis” argument.

It’s just really freakin’ hard to junk. There’s been an amendment on average, what, once every 20 years or so (not including the initial ten)?

SaveFarris: While the WaPo item doesn’t come directly from The Messiah’s lips, it definitly reads as the sort of trial ballon that campaign heads float from time to time.

The sound you hear is Farris’s whiplash.

Word.

Can anyone explain to me what purpose the electoral college stills serves and why it shouldn’t just be junked?

PG’s accusation was that Kerry as SoS was a right-wing fantasy. While the WaPo item doesn’t come directly from The Messiah’s lips, it definitly reads as the sort of trial ballon that campaign heads float from time to time.

They are when Andy Martin, conservative anti-Semite, files them.

I don’t think President Obama can spare any Dem. senators. He needs them to bloc the filabusters.

In upstate NY, once a Republican stronghold, Obama’s doing well by the signs and it’ll be close here. Now in the Adirondacks, Speculator is a very rednecky place with snowmachining as a passion, Not one Obama sign there but other parts of Adks I saw quite a few which is unusual for upstate. Many McCain signs are just put in the right of way irrespective of the homeowner’s nearby. Those are cheats, not to be counted. Most Obama signs are in people’s yards where the owner risks his neighbor’s rage of gunnuttery. So seeing a good number of Obama signs in NRA territory is pretty ominous for McCain imo.

The lawsuits state that Obama should release the “long form” version of his birth certificate, which is sealed. He is refusing to allow the Dept of Health in Hawaii to do so.

The certificate you see on Obama’s website is not an original, but rather, a copy ordered by mail.

Again, this could be nothing, but the judge will decide whether or not to release the long forms that are in the vault. It’s going to be a crazy week.

I think you meant ‘comedy’ rather than ‘bad news’.

Andy Martin filed suit in the Supreme Court in Hawaii asking them to open Obama’s secret birth records. Martin has a press conference in NY on Friday to announce the findings.

Friday is the day Obama is scheduled to be with his Grandmother in Hawaii.

Plus, the DNC has ignored Philip Berg’s lawsuit challenging Obama’s eligibility to be President.

That said I ordered multiple Obama yard signs as I know republican freaks will steal them (the asshats probably don’t even recycle them) as well as other Obama gear several weeks ago and it hasn’t arrived. My gut is the demand is far outstripping supply and they are in catch up mode. ($150 million anyone) If they based demand on 2004 clearly they underestimated and do not have the supply to keep up. I don’t have an expectation that yard signs will suddenly pop up across the country but at this time in 2004 I was showing Kerry signs.

I’m not worried about sign counts but if it makes anyone feel better the three homes in my neighborhood that had Bush/Cheney signs in 2004 (same occupants) are blank right now. Most of the Kerry homes are Obama right now (except mine as I’m waiting for gear…).

I will add that I was driving behind a big pickup that had the Bush/Cheney 2004 sticker right next to an Obama/Biden sticker. Some folks are moving to common sense.

Not indicative of anything.

Maybe indicative of support in a particular region of the state, but the larger point is certainly true. Every state in the union is purple enough to find pockets of support for either candidate within its borders.

One of the reasons that I favor a straight popular vote over the electoral college. If you live in a heavily tilted state you may as well vote for Fonzie for all the good it will do you.