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If they complain about Obama buying the election, it will just be another sign of hypocrisy.
We’ve got the occupying force in retreat, but we need more firepower to put the threat down.
But it’s the Republicans inciting violence!
“…it will just be another sign of hypocrisy.”
There was once a time when a man’s honor meant something. A time when a man’s honor was bound to his word.
Let me be perfectly clear here, Obama lied about the subject of fund raising. Obama is a liar. I suspect Obama has lied about many things. Obama is not an honorable man, he is a liar.
But it’s the Republicans inciting violence!
Fight fire with fire, mutha.
Let me be perfectly clear here, Obama lied about the subject of fund raising. Obama is a liar. I suspect Obama has lied about many things. Obama is not an honorable man, he is a liar.
How many people have lost their lives as a result of Obama’s “lies”? None. Nada. Bupkiss. ZERO.
How many have lost their lives due to Bush’s VERIFIABLE lies (which were endorsed by McCain)? 4,000 and counting, on the coalition side. Untold tens of thousands of Iraqis.
So take your “Obama Lies” (and your Nixonian “pefectly clear” opening) and shove ‘em in a place where fresh air is rare.
are there any cons that weren’t drama queen majors at Rove University?
Let me be perfectly clear here, Obama lied about the subject of fund raising.
Oh, boo hoo.
McCain’s been lying since 2006. If he were a democrat, he would have been shamed out of this race a long time ago.
Cheating on his wife several times before dumping her, he wanted public financing before he didn’t want it, against torture before he thought it was okay, for keeping abortion legal before he was against it, Obama not doing town halls with him is the reason he’s gone negative, and on and on.
Boo fucking hoo.
Amused Observer: “Let me be perfectly clear here, Obama lied about the subject of fund raising.”
No. You are either lying, or you are passing on a lie.
Obama said he would talk with the Republican nominee about it. However, McCain had already broken the law by the time Obama won the nomination, so negotiations were pointless.
McCain broke the fucking law, and you are complaining that Obama wasn’t stupid enough to trust McCain a second time.
Strowbridge,
Mighty bold with the accusations , mighty short on the facts. We all know why Obama lied about campaign finance. He had no idea he was going to be able to steamroll Hillary financially let alone the Republican nominee. He isn’t willing to give up the edge. I don’t really blame him but I don’t value his personal word or honor any more than he does. His word being of little value it was an easy decision to throw it away.
But that isn’t just my opinion, that is what the late great Tim Russert thought too. In a discussion with Obama after the candidates decision to sell out, Russert asked and I quote him directly ” Why won’t you keep your word in writing that you made to abide by public financing of the fall election?”
Obama has been incredibly successful in raising money under the radar over the internet. That some of this money is illegal is without question. How much? nobody knows. It is unlikely that the truth will ever emerge. But Obama has put some of this illegal money to good use. Money transfers from Obama to Acorn. Acorn routinely violates the law signing up phony voters. I doubt that ACORN concentrates on the kinds of Americans who share common values with John McCain.
Perhaps you could cite the crimes McCain committed that you mention in the last bit of your post?
Amused O.: Mighty bold with the accusations , mighty short on the facts. We all know why Obama lied about campaign finance. He had no idea he was going to be able to steamroll Hillary financially let alone the Republican nominee.
We all know that? We do? You know for a fact what everyone else “knows”? You know for a fact what Obama knew and planned?
“mighty short on facts” You got that part right.
But that isn’t just my opinion, that is what the late great Tim Russert thought too. … Russert asked and I quote him directly ” Why won’t you keep your word in writing that you made to abide by public financing of the fall election?”
Right. Opinion. Russert’s phrasings of the question doesn’t make it a fact. “Amused O, why won’t you keep your word in writing that you made to stop being an idiot?” See? Just cause I ask it that way doesn’t mean you actually in fact ever promised to stop being an idiot.
Mighty bold with the accusations , mighty short on the facts.
Project much, AO? CSS is right. McCain had already played his own system. Obama rightly said “Screw that, then, we got more public financing than we know what to do with.”
If this is the best you can do to say Obama is a liar while continuing to ignore McCain’s myriad of falsehoods, no one here can help you.
LOL,
Rationalize to your hearts desire. It won’t change a thing. Obama lied about campaign finance. He is a liar.
He has probably lied about several other things.
Obama says the truth is that after 20 years of hearing Wright deliver sermons he didn’t know that the man went on paranoid racist rants about the white government creating aids to exterminate blacks. That is what Obama says the truth is, he is probably lying about that too.
I think Obama is lying about his relationship with Bill Ayers. I don’t believe his story about Rezco. Obama is a product of the dirty crooked Chicago political machine.
I realize that you guys dislike Americans who don’t share your values, who think socialism, the redistribution of wealth, legal discrimination and affirmative action are wrong. You make that perfectly clear every day. Whether or not John McCain has always told the truth has no bearing on Obama’s relationship with the truth. McCain proved his dedication to this country as we all well know.
But I thought most of you liberal types liked Tim Russert. He was known as an intelligent, well prepared, and fair man quite knowledgeable about politics. Some thought he was the best. He thought Obama was a liar too, and called him on it.
Whatever, AO. I love my country and I want it back from the criminals, thieves and liars who have fucked it up over the last 8 years. Obama has been more honest and sincere than the entire RNC. You can parse it all you want, but it’s McCain that has been lying to you since the “Straight Talk Express” hit the pavement.
If I were a Republican, I’d be insulted by the way they’ve been treating you.
Duros,
Your remarks regarding truth and sincerity makes for nice rhetoric but have little bearing upon Obama’s relationship with the truth. Your thoughts about criminals, thieves and liars reveals a limited grasp of both history and civics.
I’m no great fan of John McCain’s but his record, who he is and what he has done are clearly much better for this country than Obama’s credentials.
Neither Obama or McCain has much of clue about how an economy works but Obama panders to the idea of class warfare.
You obviously don’t think it is a big deal about Obama’s radical religious values. I do. I think it is an outrage.
I think it an outrage that Bill Ayers isn’t shunned by polite company in Chicago. Bill’s wife thought the crimes of Charlie Manson were “cool”. I think the idea of Barack working with that man to undermine American education is despicable.
Barack Obama was an open opponent of the Second Amendment. I expect American leaders to support the Constitution not subvert it.
Republicans have been poor stewards of the public purse. Their poor performance should be held against them. However, sadly, I think Obama will make them look good. I believe Democrats will greatly increase public spending in an effort to buy votes from people who generally pay very little taxes. They will buy the votes of the many with the taxes of the few. That is standard Democratic practice, that is the redistribution of wealth and that is unamerican.
Obama’s administration will make it even harder to rid this nation of the shameful legalized discrimination that is affirmative action. Affirmative action destroys the concept of a meritocracy and makes a mockery of the Constitution.
Obama’s foreign policy will embolden our enemies. Seriously, who do you think the first choice of foreign terrorists would be for our president. Definitely not John McCain.
You may very well be excited by the possibilities that an Obama administration may bring. Class warfare, increased government spending, higher taxes, and a continuation of discrimination may seem like good things to you. But those are all concepts that run counter to the documents that underlie the foundation of this country, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Such ideas are by their very nature unamerican.
I’ve put 2 kids through a pretty decent public education system. Their exposure to American history and civics was quite limited. I can only imagine how bad it would be at a bad achool. To contemplate what it would be like in a system shaped by Bill Ayers activist agenda is horrific.
Amused: Rationalize to your hearts desire. It won’t change a thing. Obama lied about campaign finance. He is a liar.
He has probably lied about several other things.
Rationalize to your hearts desire. It won’t change a thing. McCain broke the law about campaign finance. He is a criminal.
He has probably has broken the law on several other things.
Ao: He has probably lied about several other things. … he is probably lying about that too … I think Obama is lying …
Nice to see you continuing the grand old tradition of the right of putting forth opinion as fact.
AO: Whether or not John McCain has always told the truth has no bearing on Obama’s relationship with the truth. McCain proved his dedication to this country as we all well know.
So exactly how much time must one spend as a POW before you get to lie and break the law with impunity? Did he have to spend the full 5 1/2 years, or would just four have been enough? Or did the immunity attach from the first day he was captured?
AO: Your remarks regarding truth and sincerity makes for nice rhetoric but have little bearing upon Obama’s relationship with the truth. etc etc blah blah blah
Shorter AO: Nothing, nothing matters but whether Obama has told the truth 100% of the time. Anything anyone else has ever done, no matter how illegal or dishonest, is irrelevant.
AO: Bill’s wife thought the crimes of Charlie Manson were “cool”
Yeah, and the third cousin of the second wife of the neighbor of a guy McCain once shook hands with in a rope line once cheated on his 9th grade civics exam. Shame on McCain for being associated with him.
I expect American leaders to support the Constitution not subvert it.
So I can safely assume you’d support an effort to impeach Cheney and Bush.
Seriously, who do you think the first choice of foreign terrorists would be for our president. Definitely not John McCain.
Probably yes John McCain. Terrorist have done very well under Bush and McCain want’s to follow the same policies. Don’t pursue them, concentrate efforts in countries where the terrorist don’t have their main presence, provide great examples of “America is evil” that they can use to recruit).
I’ve put 2 kids through a pretty decent public education system. Their exposure to American history and civics was quite limited.
If only responsibility for a child’s education didn’t stop at the school door and parents could get involved.
To contemplate what it would be like in a system shaped by Bill Ayers activist agenda is horrific.
Do you even know what “Bill Ayers activist agenda” is? Didn’t think so. But don’t let that stop you from acting as if it does exist so you can justify your blinkered view that all things Obama are bad and nothing anyone else has done matters.
Sean,
I’ve already asked you for cites on the McCain criminal cases. Do you have any?
Does it bother you when Obama lies?
I’m no big fan of McCain but did McCain use some sort of Karl Rove mind control ray gun on Obama to get him to be a liar about campaign finance, church attendance, etc. If McCain has the power to turn Obama into a serial liar, I wish he would use it more effectively. LOL, it worked so well on Al Gore!
I notice Obama has been using tactics straight out of the National Socialist playbook to
intimidate his opponents and has asked his followers to “get in the faces” of his political foes. They have organized attacks on media call in shows to suppress political opponents. How do you think this behavior will manifest itself If Obama is elected? Is that good for America?
The treatment of “Joe the Plumber” seems relevant. Should a member of the public, in his own neighborhood, be investigated by the media and ridiculed on the national stage for voicing a political opinion. I would call that that chilling of political speech unamerican.
Do you support the politics of personal destruction when practiced on private citizens for having dissenting political opinion. Should they be destroyed if necessary for the greater good?
You don’t appear to be very disturbed by Obama choosing to throw away his honor, does the concept of personal honor mean much in your own life?
But I thought most of you liberal types liked Tim Russert.
LOL!
Shows how little you know, Confused Observer.
Far be it from me to speak ill of the late Mr. Russert, but he was routinely unprepared for interviews. In the very example you offer, he misstates elementary facts. He made Social Security his personal hobbyhorse and regularly recited incorrect or irrelevant facts on the subject. He liked to play silly gotcha games and almost never asked followups, especially when sitting with a Republican he admired. He flattered himself that his Buffalo upbringing gave him special insight into regular folks while he lived in a multimillion dollar mansion on Martha’s Vinyard.
No, CO, Mr. Russert was not a favorite among liberals.
You obviously don’t think it is a big deal about Obama’s radical religious values. I do. I think it is an outrage.
I think it an outrage that Bill Ayers isn’t shunned by polite company in Chicago. Bill’s wife thought the crimes of Charlie Manson were “cool”. I think the idea of Barack working with that man to undermine American education is despicable.
Dial it down a little, would you?
You obviously need to do a little more research.
Obama does not have “radical religious values” whatever the fuck that even means. His pastor was an outspoken critic of the government. Doesn’t mean he shares those views. Bill Ayers was an outspoken critic of the government 35 years ago. Doesn’t mena he shares those views. It doesn’t even mean Ayers still believes them. He never said he wished they had bombed more, he said he wished they could have done more to stop the war in Viet Nam (and, you know, get John McCain home sooner so he could spend more time cheating on his wife.
Your quote about Dohrn and Manson is completely devoid of the context and she did not think it was “cool.”
If I was gonna vote for someone simply because they were beaten and abused, I’d vote for Tina turner.
Perhaps Obama didn’t speak the truth w/r/t public financing, but that was only after McCain broke his word.
You don’t appear to be very disturbed by Obama choosing to throw away his honor, does the concept of personal honor mean much in your own life?
Very much so, sir. He threw away nothing. Does the concept of honor mean nothing to McCain out of uniform?
Why am I feeding the trolls? We’ll look back on this in 15 years and think how quaint it was. AO, you’re still mad about the New Deal.
Go sit down.
I said Good Day, Sir!
BTW, Obama had nothing to do with Joe the plumber getting slammed by the media. He asked him a question and Obama spent 5 minutes answering him, even though his mind is apparently already made up.
No one is quashing Joe’s freedom of speech, but he put himself out there and agreed to be interviewed later. Trying to infer that the Obama campaign is acting against him is as ludicrous as the rest of your blather.
Amused: Sean,
I’ve already asked you for cites on the McCain criminal cases. Do you have any?
ACtually, you addressed that posting specifically to Strowbridge. But let me oblige.
McCain breaks spending limits
Only problem being, of course, it isn’t up to his lawyers to decide. It’s up to the FEC who wrote to McCain that they hadn’t yet voted on or granted his request. So he actually IS still bound by the limits whether he wants to be or not.
Now, your turn. Can you provide any legitimate cites for any of your claims?
– Obama lied about the subject of fund raising
– They have organized attacks on media call in shows to suppress political opponents
– Money transfers from Obama to Acorn. Acorn routinely violates the law signing up phony voters.
– I doubt ACORN concentrates on the kinds of Americans who share common values with John McCain.
– Obama is lying about his relationship with Bill Ayers.
– Obama panders to the idea of class warfare
– Barack work[ed] with that man to undermine American education
– Democrats will greatly increase public spending in an effort to buy votes
– Obama’s foreign policy will embolden our enemies.
– Obama has been using tactics straight out of the National Socialist playbook to intimidate his opponents and has asked his followers to “get in the faces” of his political foes.
– Should a member of the public, in his own neighborhood, be investigated by the media and ridiculed on the national stage for voicing a political opinion. [What did Obama have to do with that?]