Comments on: John McCain’s Death Spiral

By: Duros Hussein62

Duros Hussein62 — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:55:04 +0000

I thought Annenberg was full o’ terrists.

By: Remember November

Remember November — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:46:55 +0000

“Anecdotal evidence to the contrary: A well-educated 70-something friend recently returned to NYC from visiting friends and relatives in Illinois. EVERYONE he talked to was voting for McCain. NB: This was Obama’s home state.”

Anecdotal evidence means JACK SQUAT. Read “Unspun” by the Annenberg press. Just because you see it happen once does not a fact make. This is what lies and smearmongers base everything on.

Sounds more like confirmation bias to me.Of course there are McCain supporters in Illinois, but I’m sure your friend was around circles of McCain supporters only and less around Obama supporters- thus confirming a flawed hypothesis.

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:27:22 +0000

Jay has a point. That survey definitely oversampled Obama supporters.

By: anotherbozo

anotherbozo — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:22:59 +0000

ewoman: I’m a member too, but I hate to admit that most of the “unconfortable voting for a black man (or “colored man”)” set are up in years. Twenty-somethings, at least here in NYC, are much more likely to be beyond skin color, part of the happily “post-racial” generation.

By: Jay

Jay — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:08:50 +0000

Right. The death spiral. Except the important result of the poll…you know that important question about who people are going to vote for, only has Obama up by 2 points, 44% to 42%.

In addition, the breakdown is a joke. Out of the 841 surveyed, 44% polled were Democrats, only 30% were Republicans and the other 26% were independents. If the numbers are accurate, Obama should be worried because in a poll that’s weighted completely off from actual party ID in this country, he didn’t do better than 44%.

By: Duros Hussein 62

Duros Hussein 62 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:41:07 +0000

Yeah, I know. Poor thing.

By: Quaker in a Basement

Quaker in a Basement — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:07:41 +0000

My grandmother doesn’t think Barack is “colored enough”

Grammy just keepin’ it real, ‘nilla!

By: SpiderJ

SpiderJ — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:30:06 +0000

Speaking as an Illinoisan, I’d ask where he was visiting in Illinois. The metro areas and college towns, as you’d expect, are not going to give McCain the time of day. But remember that Illinois also has a lot of farmland downstate, and that the rural areas have always skewed Republican on culture issues.

We share a border with Kentucky, after all. Some of that spills over.

By: Duros Hussein 62

Duros Hussein 62 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:09:46 +0000

Gotta agree with Ms. ewoman. All of the children of the ’50′s and 60′s are AARP now, like my parents. Hippie-dom may go into regression, but it remains active, like a dormant volcano.

I think Mr. Bozo was referring to the A-plus AARP members, like my grandparents. My grandmother doesn’t think Barack is “colored enough” what ever the fuck that means.

By: Duros Hussein 62

Duros Hussein 62 — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:41:41 +0000

Love that Google Ad there, Ollie.

The Rich Jerk: “I’m rich and you’re not.” Fuck you.

By: ewoman

ewoman — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:41:06 +0000

whoa – I’m a bona-fide member of the AARP, and I’m VERY pro-Obama, as are many of my friends (who also belong to AARP). Please don’t generalize, anotherbozo, as the AARP is more progressive than you can imagine.

By: anotherbozo

anotherbozo — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:36:38 +0000

Anecdotal evidence to the contrary: A well-educated 70-something friend recently returned to NYC from visiting friends and relatives in Illinois. EVERYONE he talked to was voting for McCain. NB: This was Obama’s home state.

Moral: Beware the AARP set. They can still hobble to the polls, and will.

The only way to be sure is to get out EVERY Obama vote possible, so that stealth bigots, corrupt registration challenges don’t matter. We have to OVERWHELM the pollsters, aim for a landslide!