Here’s the base everyone. These are the people who form the heart and soul of the Republican party. That is why we must win.
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October 9th, 2008
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“European Socialist!!” That’s comedy.
Oliver, do you have any idea whatsoever how many thousands of posts from the bloggers you link to here alone, much less their whacked out commenters which take that number into the millions, have called George W. Bush and Dick Cheney terrorists? Have you never been to an anti-war rally and made even the most casual of observations, or even seen pictures of them?
It’s become so commonplace no one even thinks twice about it.
If it was just one post it might be one thing, but you are up to about 5 a day now and I get the impression you are just getting warmed up, that this has been in the planning stages for you for the better part of this year.
Show us the links Dennis? Have their been any rallies by major party candidates which compare to the recent ones by McCain and Palin? How about on the street interviews with Obama supporters? Show me what you got. As with, say, right wing talk radio, there is no comparison. Unless you can prove it. Otherwise, you’re just as awful as the very bad people in these (and other) videos. Stay classy.
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Sorry, but you didn’t even say a word about Sandra Bernhardt when she said she hoped Sarah Palin got raped by a bunch of black guys. How was that not the most racist of racist statements from anyone this political season?
How many people has Barack killed in an unnecessary war?
Dennis:
I’m still waiting for your evidence that the Obama rallies are anything comparable the the McCain-Pailin hatefests. Show me the evidence! Anything even remotely as disturbing as an uncorrected child saying, “you need gloves to touch him”? I didn’t think so. Classy bunch you’re a part of Dennis. Way classy.
(Oh, and I heard somewhere that Sandra Bernhard was performance artist who’s stock in trade was over-the-top, tongue in cheek, ironic shock statements.)
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I really don’t think he needs links to know what I’m talking about.
But for you… Here. And here. And here.
Maybe I’m getting too old, losing my memory, but I sure don’t remember the right wing being this ugly – or this vocal – in the 1970s. Just as scared? Yes.
Sorry, but you didn’t even say a word about Sandra Bernhardt when she said she hoped Sarah Palin got raped by a bunch of black guys.
Who?
““European Socialist!!” That’s comedy.”
Can you say New Party or Democratic Socialist Party of America. I knew you could.
Dennis – You have a point, but not an argument. I’ve never personally been to a rally or a political event of any size wherein President Cheney or his pet monkey were called terrorists, but I’ve said it to friends and in the privacy of my home and haven’t yet been GitMoed, so that’s reassuring. I’ll set aside for a moment that when a government willfully names its Vengeance War a “crusade” and its tactics “Shock and Awe” that we should bear some responsibility for The Terror™ that may ensue among the civilian populations that get to enjoy Democracy as it explodes in their faces.
No, I’ll ignore that part and just ask you if you honestly think a disgruntled, angry, and exhausted electorate venting its impotence in the face of two endless wars and a tanking economy by declaring the Chimp-in-Chief a terrorist is of equal weight and value as an organized political campaign trying to influence the course of history by willfully misrepresenting facts to paint an opponent as a terrorist, or a close friend of a terrorist? We’re not talking about random douchebaggery here, we’re talking about a concerted effort by one-half of this country’s political machinery to discredit an opponent through lies and innuendo, to prey on working-class xenophobia and latent racism in despicable ways that could easily incite certain elements to real violence. John McCain is fine with that; whatever it takes to win. Mr. Willis, and the rest of us whacked out commentators, are not.
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““European Socialist!!” That’s comedy.”
Can you say New Party or Democratic Socialist Party of America. I knew you could.
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but you didn’t even say a word about Sandra Bernhardt when she said she
About as important to me as what Andy Dick thinks.
Yeah, me either, Parthenon.
I think Oliver’s tinkering, or perhaps WordPress is.
Look, even if Obama was a socialist, which anyone who actually knows what the word means knows perfectly well that he isn’t, why is it a problem? In Europe they have actual proper socialism as an option in almost every country and they don’t shit themselves over it. It’s not the same as communism, idiots.
Anything to maintain the division of this country that we have been dealt lo, these past 8 years.
That ain’t Country First, my friends.
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Of course you haven’t heard. Obama and his pals have been scrubbing the internet as fast as they can and I’m more than sure Oliver would not allow anything to be posted on his site. Believe me, I’ve tried already.
You are quickly entering 9/11 truther territory, william.
Godspeed.
Of course you haven’t heard. Obama and his pals have been scrubbing the internet as fast as they can and I’m more than sure Oliver would not allow anything to be posted on his site. Believe me, I’ve tried already.
Believe you me, I can totally dig it. I bet Oliver also still believes in Evolution and the Moon Landing. Thank goodness we know better!
Obama and his pals have been scrubbing the internet as fast as they can
I say good. maybe they can clean out some that porn. Start with 2 girls, 1 cup. The internet is filthy!
Heart and soul, maybe. Definitely no brain.
Oh yeah- right! The voters of Illinois are really gonna elect a guy w/ terrorist ties to the U.S. Senate. An opponent wouldn’t have brought it up by now…
Su-u-re.
The New Party helped fundraise and promote Obama’s original run for the Illinois senate, among others.
The New Party, incidentally, was a minute movement dedicated to supporting labour unions via electoral fusion. I know. A shocking, radical group if ever there FUCKING WAS ONE OH GOD I CAN’T KEEP THAT UP.
I can’t watch any more of these. I’m not saying that Oliver or anyone else should stop posting about it, it’s just bad for me. The reality is that the new tenor of the Republican party’s attacks – the lack of anything resembling an honorable reaction from them to distance themselves from supports who yell “Kill him,” the whole “That one” thing, tacitly implying that he is a traitor and a terrorist – is scarier to me than anything I’ve seen in a decade of paying attention to politics. However, the only way I’ve ever been successful in dealing with people who are fueled by fear or hatred is to: a. ignore them because it is a waste of precious energy to speak to people whose cerebral cortex never fully formed and are still running on the limbic system and 2. pour myself fully into shining light on the truth for those who are vulnerable to the fervor but are still willing to listen to reason and may be swayed by the facts (read: phone-banking and cavasing for the Obama campaign). The facts are in our favor here and I am going to do everything in my power to spread the facts to anyone who isn’t a complete ideologue. Let them have their vitriol. That’s all they’ll be left with on November 5th when we get to walk away from this eight year nightmare and begin anew.
I think my favourite bit of this vid is the ‘acorn’ guy. The republicans have managed to make the word acorn one of those special trigger-words (similar to ’socialism’, as so ably demonstrated numerous times in the thread) within just a couple of days. When asked about it he says that they, along with Obama, are *single-handidly* responsible for the economic crisis. I actually *facepalmed* at that.
I assume the same would be true for Ayers or Rezko – the know not a single thing about the issue, they’ve just been wired to flinch when they hear it.
As a filthy European socialist (UK) you start to think that these people only exist on freerepublic and lgf and they’re can’t possibly be that many in reality. It’s quite an eye-opener to see fully fledged wingnuts operating out in the sunshine.
do you have any idea whatsoever how many thousands of posts from the bloggers you link to here alone, much less their whacked out commenters which take that number into the millions, have called George W. Bush and Dick Cheney terrorists? Have you never been to an anti-war rally and made even the most casual of observations, or even seen pictures of them?
I am sure Iraqis would call Bush and Cheney terrorists.
Look, even if Obama was a socialist, which anyone who actually knows what the word means knows perfectly well that he isn’t, why is it a problem?
Because like so many other things, he chooses not to disclose it about himself.
I don’t expect that if this is true it’s going to make a whole lot of difference, but at the very least, that aspect should.
I’d be more than willing to vote for Obama, if he’d just come out and admit that he’s a terrorist-supporting, Marxist, Muslim manchurian candidiate.
you didn’t even say a word about Sandra Bernhardt when she said she hoped Sarah Palin got raped by a bunch of black guys
She said that at an Obama rally?
No? Well, she must be somehow associated with the Obama campaign, right?
No?
Then what the hell are you talking about?
Why aren’t any of the rightists who come out to see McCain at his rallies at their jobs?
Then what the hell are you talking about?
Because he says ‘Here’s the base everyone. These are the people who form the heart and soul of the Republican party. That is why we must win.’
The base of the Democratic party has hardly displayed less offensive behavior. Not in the last 8 years and certainly not now. Why is that hard to understand?
Are those people in that video associated with the McCain campaign?
As to Sandra Bernhard, I’m just asking why her comments were not racially offensive to him, or at least worthy of note on par with what he does decide to note.
Because she’s Sandra freaking Bernhard, not Angela Merkel.
Vic –
That was really surreal. A bunch of people who are not at their jobs (unless they are professional rally attenders — hmmmm…) are screaming at other people who no doubt have jobs and families to “get a job.” I’m surprised they didn’t tell the dirty hippies to get haircuts.
I lived in Hershey, Pennsylvania from 1996 to 2004 while working in a major position for a state agency located in Harrisburg. Hershey is located about 80 miles from Bethlehem. I am not surprised at all by the attitudes and statements expressed by folks appearing in this video. Carville was right. From Paoli to the Auburn Hills, Pennsylvania is all Alabama.
Obama will carry the state as a result of the turnout and votes from Philadelphia, Bucks, Montgomery, Delaware and Chester Counties in the southeast and Alleghany County (Pittsburgh) in the northwest. The rest of the state is clueless and hopeless.
As to Sandra Bernhard, I’m just asking why her comments were not racially offensive to him, or at least worthy of note on par with what he does decide to note.
I repeat: she made these remarks at an Obama rally? We’re talking about what’s happening the in the campaign. You’re talking about what a C-list celebrity said in…in…in whatever the hell it is Ms. Bernhard does.
Here’s something to consider. Not every single thing said by every person at any place and time is necessarily interesting or relevant.
The base of the Democratic party has hardly displayed less offensive behavior.
Really? Care to share a single linkable example?
Shame on you and the crowd with which you run, Dennis. You and the geniuses in these videos are an awful stain on a great nation.
Of course you haven’t heard. Obama and his pals have been scrubbing the internet as fast as they can and I’m more than sure Oliver would not allow anything to be posted on his site. Believe me, I’ve tried already.
Obama and his pals have been scrubbing the internet as fast as they can
scrubbing the internet
…O…..k then.
Because like so many other things, he chooses not to disclose it about himself.
You mean like McCain and his secret other families?
Has anyone yet taken a crack at Quaker’s question of what to do about everyone else in Bill Ayers’ life that decline to treat him as the anti-Christ? Did I miss it? Did anybody sullenly throw down a “Well, they aren’t running for president” and my eyes skimmed right over it?
O Hai! I’m in ur Internets! Scrub a dub dub!
Obama and his pals have been scrubbing the internet as fast as they can
Whatever the outcome, I look forward to Nov. 6 when you guys can become reasonable commenters again. Seriously, people are getting weird. And you accuse Sen. Obama’s supporters of having Obamamania. I think it’s the other way around, except not the rapture kind you accuse supporters of having. More like the clinical definition of mania.
Wait, did I miss something?
Did anybody sullenly throw down a “Well, they aren’t running for president”
Here’s your winner, Parth!
No question – the Republican base is BASE.
Ah, thanks Quaker. I knew it had to be somewhere. I was concerned about the cons’ golf ball supply for a second.
Ah, thanks Quaker. I knew it had to be somewhere. I was concerned about the cons’ golf ball supply for a second.
I’ve had to go down to Titleist NXT’s instead of Pro-V1’s with this stock market, Parthy.
Painful. You have no idea. 10 yards less and no backspin.
I’d be playing the world’s smallest violin right now, but I’m a piano guy.
From Paoli to the Auburn Hills, Pennsylvania is all Alabama.
I’m going to be rude and post something from another thread, because I think it bears repeating:
I’d like to point out that the two (very disturbing) videos making the rounds of the internet today were from Pennsylvania and Ohio. And yet commenters on at least two threads here have equated the behavior with Southerners. Can we please end the racism=Southern trope? I’m not about to argue that there aren’t deep pockets of racism in the South. But there are also deep pockets of racism in Massachusetts (where we lived for 7 years), New York, Idaho, Iowa, California, …
It’s too easy to blame racism on the South. It paints the racist as the “other,” and absolves all you folks in the “good states” of any responsibility for the inherent racism in society.
Call out racism when you see it, no matter where it originates. Don’t weaken your message by pretending that its just those ignorant hillbillies who have somehow snuck up North.
S. Quaker speaks true. It’s pretty offensive to deride the south en masse as ign’int crackers. It robs the people of their individuality, something a sensible liberal – despite the scary collectivist cliches perpetrated by dishonest conservatives – would never knowingly do.
One of my professors is from the very rural south, has a thick Kentucky accent, is a former CIA operative in Amin’s Uganda, speaks seven languages and got his ass kicked in middle school for refusing to join with the other white kids in enforcing segregation after the Brown decision.
Hicks are hicks, even if they’re New Englanders, or Californian, or Minnesotan. Or Alaskan.
Did anybody sullenly throw down a “Well, they aren’t running for president”
Sadly, no right-wing outrage about John McCain’s mortgage plan, tho. I’ve been waiting all day.
Southern Quaker -
I get your drift but you missed my point. I was not attributing anti-black racism only to the south but the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has a long, dishonorable and largely hidden record of state sanctioned anti-black racism that persisted long after other states above the Mason-Dixon line had repealed the most odious aspects of their own laws and regulations. In the late 1950s, for example, blacks were routinely turned away from entering Hershey Amusement Park. I could list numerous other examples to support my viewpoint but I stand by my characterization of Pennsylvania.
PT,
It’s not your characterization of PA that I have a problem with – I’m well acquainted with the racism in that state. But why does racist behavior in PA or OH or any other state always have to be equated with racism in the South? Isn’t it bad enough to stand on its own?
It occurs to me that every political activist should watch “Borat”, as an object lesson in how voicing ones opinion is not always the best way to prosletyse it.
But why does racist behavior in PA or OH or any other state always have to be equated with racism in the South?
One of the reasons that we do analogize racist behavior in states like Pennsylvania with racism in the south is the tendency of those in the north to describe racism in the north as being something markedly and substantively different from what occurred in the south. There are historically documented cases, for example, of slave masters in Chester County attempting to hold their slaves in bondage well after Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation.
While I was living in Hershey the Ku Klux Klan held at least one rally and march in York, Pennsylvania, which was only about 30 miles away. Blacks who live in Harrisburg and Dauphin County still refer to the west shore area of Cumberland County as the “white shore.” This characterization is a hold over from the time when blacks were not welcome to cross the Susquehanna River from Harrisburg (Dauphin County) into the towns of New Cumberland, Lemoyne and Camp Hill.
I’m so old, I remember when the Republicans would try to tie the Democratic candidate to a guy like Willie Horton.
Nowadays, they think the Democrat is Willie Horton.
The strange thing is, aside from middle fingers extended, with the sound turned down they appear completely reasonable and rational. But with the sound you realize that they are complete idiots who lap up whatever lies the GOP feeds them and then they ask for more.
I thought it would piss me off to watch the video but really it just made me kind of sad at how ugly and split America has become.
How’s this for an example of the GOP’s base:
http://gopnot4me.blogspot.com/2008/10/unfreakingbelievable.html
Lie down with dogs…..