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		<title>By: marshalsandler.com &#187; Keating Economics</title>
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		<dc:creator>marshalsandler.com &#187; Keating Economics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119442</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>willie, you didn&#039;t answer my question.

Who else served on that board with Mr. Ayers? While I&#039;m at it, let&#039;s add this: What are the politics of Mr. Annenberg who selected Mr. Ayers to head up the project?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>willie, you didn&#8217;t answer my question.</p>
<p>Who else served on that board with Mr. Ayers? While I&#8217;m at it, let&#8217;s add this: What are the politics of Mr. Annenberg who selected Mr. Ayers to head up the project?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119437</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By including the context, Parthenon proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that william is a complete idiot.
By ignoring the context, william confirms it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By including the context, Parthenon proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that william is a complete idiot.<br />
By ignoring the context, william confirms it.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119422</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So since William is going to continue to ignore it, Dohrn was allegedly making a point about relative media coverage of violent events, not endorsing the Tate-LaBianca murders. Here is Ayers on the matter... (I know there are those here who will discount the explanation because it&#039;s Bill Ayers. To that I&#039;d say that I&#039;m not defending Dohrn and claiming this version is gospel, but we shouldn&#039;t pretend we &quot;knew&quot; what Dohrn meant simply because we disagree with her politics.)

&quot;Her speech was focused on the murder just days earlier of our friend Fred Hampton, the Black Panther leader [...] She linked Fred’s murder to the murders of other Panthers around the country, to the assassinations of Malcolm X and Patrice Lumumba, the CIA attempts on Fidel&#039;s life, and then to the ongoing terror in Viet Nam. &quot;This is the state of the world,&quot; she cried. &quot;This is what screams out for our attention and our response. And what do we find in our newspapers? A sick fascination with a story that has it all: a racist psycho, a killer cult, and a chorus line of Hollywood bodies. Dig it!...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So since William is going to continue to ignore it, Dohrn was allegedly making a point about relative media coverage of violent events, not endorsing the Tate-LaBianca murders. Here is Ayers on the matter&#8230; (I know there are those here who will discount the explanation because it&#8217;s Bill Ayers. To that I&#8217;d say that I&#8217;m not defending Dohrn and claiming this version is gospel, but we shouldn&#8217;t pretend we &#8220;knew&#8221; what Dohrn meant simply because we disagree with her politics.)</p>
<p>&#8220;Her speech was focused on the murder just days earlier of our friend Fred Hampton, the Black Panther leader [...] She linked Fred’s murder to the murders of other Panthers around the country, to the assassinations of Malcolm X and Patrice Lumumba, the CIA attempts on Fidel&#8217;s life, and then to the ongoing terror in Viet Nam. &#8220;This is the state of the world,&#8221; she cried. &#8220;This is what screams out for our attention and our response. And what do we find in our newspapers? A sick fascination with a story that has it all: a racist psycho, a killer cult, and a chorus line of Hollywood bodies. Dig it!&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119411</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh, we need to understand the cohhhhntext do we? F that.&lt;/i&gt;

Does this also hold when your hero, Bill O&#039;Riley blames a child for being kidnapped, or wanting San Francisco to be bombed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oh, we need to understand the cohhhhntext do we? F that.</i></p>
<p>Does this also hold when your hero, Bill O&#8217;Riley blames a child for being kidnapped, or wanting San Francisco to be bombed?</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119394</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, we need to understand the cohhhhntext do we? F that. The Ayer&#039;s and Dohrn&#039;s of the world should be shunned and marginalized, but Obama chose to hang with them...because of the context baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, we need to understand the cohhhhntext do we? F that. The Ayer&#8217;s and Dohrn&#8217;s of the world should be shunned and marginalized, but Obama chose to hang with them&#8230;because of the context baby.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119375</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William, I wonder why you ignored Dohrn&#039;s context for the statement. Let me be clear that I don&#039;t endorse her use of that incident to make a political point, and you&#039;re free to not believe her if you wish, but why didn&#039;t you include her explanation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William, I wonder why you ignored Dohrn&#8217;s context for the statement. Let me be clear that I don&#8217;t endorse her use of that incident to make a political point, and you&#8217;re free to not believe her if you wish, but why didn&#8217;t you include her explanation?</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119369</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Who else chose to work with Mr. Ayers on that same board, willie?&quot;

McCain? Palin?

Ayers is a terrorist. His wife, Bernadette Dohrn, a psychopath, speaking before an audience of SDS members, exclaimed, “Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim&#039;s stomach.” 

These are sick f!@#ers and Obama CHOSE to hang with them. SICK!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who else chose to work with Mr. Ayers on that same board, willie?&#8221;</p>
<p>McCain? Palin?</p>
<p>Ayers is a terrorist. His wife, Bernadette Dohrn, a psychopath, speaking before an audience of SDS members, exclaimed, “Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim&#8217;s stomach.” </p>
<p>These are sick f!@#ers and Obama CHOSE to hang with them. SICK!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119360</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it&#039;s my understanding that Ayers turned himself in, but the prosecution screwed up his case so badly that charges had to be dropped. 
Liddy &quot;served his time&quot; for SOME of his crimes, but remains an unrepentant traitor to this day. Publicly calling for the murder of ATF agents is terrorism. Plotting the murder of journalists is terrorism (what if his plot had succeeded?) Subverting the electoral process is treason, in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s my understanding that Ayers turned himself in, but the prosecution screwed up his case so badly that charges had to be dropped.<br />
Liddy &#8220;served his time&#8221; for SOME of his crimes, but remains an unrepentant traitor to this day. Publicly calling for the murder of ATF agents is terrorism. Plotting the murder of journalists is terrorism (what if his plot had succeeded?) Subverting the electoral process is treason, in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119347</link>
		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously Liddy&#039;s a traitor, and if he&#039;d done it for McGovern you&#039;d have no problem with that. And if breaking and entering to sabotage democracy isn&#039;t terrorism, I don&#039;t know what is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously Liddy&#8217;s a traitor, and if he&#8217;d done it for McGovern you&#8217;d have no problem with that. And if breaking and entering to sabotage democracy isn&#8217;t terrorism, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119325</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quaker, you&#039;re my hero.

No one ever answers these questions that you already know the answers to.

Love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quaker, you&#8217;re my hero.</p>
<p>No one ever answers these questions that you already know the answers to.</p>
<p>Love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119306</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Obama has always known that Bill Ayers was an unrepentant domestic terrorist and chose to work with him anyway.&lt;/em&gt;

Who else chose to work with Mr. Ayers on that same board, willie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Obama has always known that Bill Ayers was an unrepentant domestic terrorist and chose to work with him anyway.</em></p>
<p>Who else chose to work with Mr. Ayers on that same board, willie?</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119305</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Liddy is neither a terrorist nor a traitor. &lt;/em&gt;

Really?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they&#039;re going to be wearing bulletproof vests.&quot; ... &quot;They&#039;ve got a big target on there, ATF. Don&#039;t shoot at that, because they&#039;ve got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots.... Kill the sons of bitches.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Liddy is neither a terrorist nor a traitor. </em></p>
<p>Really?</p>
<blockquote><p>Now if the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they&#8217;re going to be wearing bulletproof vests.&#8221; &#8230; &#8220;They&#8217;ve got a big target on there, ATF. Don&#8217;t shoot at that, because they&#8217;ve got a vest on underneath that. Head shots, head shots&#8230;. Kill the sons of bitches.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119299</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enlightened Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of that and your candidate is down by 8 points.  Sucks to be you doesn&#039;t it?

Only in wingnut land could there be moral equivalence between showing poor judgment in the Keating 5 case and being in the same party as someone else in the Keating 5 (which happened when the candidate was 26 years old).

Funny seeing the same old smears being recycled by the right.  Trouble is, America is finding that smears don&#039;t help them pay their mortgage, or restore their lost jobs, or pay for $3.25/gallon gasoline.  People want change they can believe in, not more of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of that and your candidate is down by 8 points.  Sucks to be you doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Only in wingnut land could there be moral equivalence between showing poor judgment in the Keating 5 case and being in the same party as someone else in the Keating 5 (which happened when the candidate was 26 years old).</p>
<p>Funny seeing the same old smears being recycled by the right.  Trouble is, America is finding that smears don&#8217;t help them pay their mortgage, or restore their lost jobs, or pay for $3.25/gallon gasoline.  People want change they can believe in, not more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Tea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Tea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My, how many wrong points are there in this thread?

1) John Glenn has not just endorsed Obama, he is out campaigning for him.

2) Liddy is neither a terrorist nor a traitor. He was a willing participant in crimes in support of a corrupt administration, but never committed acts that could be considered &quot;treason&quot; or &quot;terrorism.&quot;

3) Bill Ayers, in his own words: &quot;Guilty as hell, free as a bird.&quot; Liddy: guilty as hell, served his time, paid his debt.

4) Obama spent 20 years as a member of a church who specifically said its doctrine was NOT for white people. He followed a minister (even praising him and using him for a book title) who said that AIDS  was a government plot aimed at killing black people. And Obama was either so clueless to know about this or didn&#039;t care or -- most likely -- weighed the costs and benefits and found it better for his political career to stay affiliated with Wright -- until the pendulum swung the other way and he suddenly discovered what he&#039;d been missing for 20 years, and he publicly left his church. (That this was right after Wright slammed Obama was a pure coincidence, I&#039;m sure.)

J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My, how many wrong points are there in this thread?</p>
<p>1) John Glenn has not just endorsed Obama, he is out campaigning for him.</p>
<p>2) Liddy is neither a terrorist nor a traitor. He was a willing participant in crimes in support of a corrupt administration, but never committed acts that could be considered &#8220;treason&#8221; or &#8220;terrorism.&#8221;</p>
<p>3) Bill Ayers, in his own words: &#8220;Guilty as hell, free as a bird.&#8221; Liddy: guilty as hell, served his time, paid his debt.</p>
<p>4) Obama spent 20 years as a member of a church who specifically said its doctrine was NOT for white people. He followed a minister (even praising him and using him for a book title) who said that AIDS  was a government plot aimed at killing black people. And Obama was either so clueless to know about this or didn&#8217;t care or &#8212; most likely &#8212; weighed the costs and benefits and found it better for his political career to stay affiliated with Wright &#8212; until the pendulum swung the other way and he suddenly discovered what he&#8217;d been missing for 20 years, and he publicly left his church. (That this was right after Wright slammed Obama was a pure coincidence, I&#8217;m sure.)</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119239</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should read &quot;an UNREPENTANT traitor.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should read &#8220;an UNREPENTANT traitor.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/10/06/mccain-campaign-now-dismissing-entire-keating-investigation/#comment-119238</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And bringing up Ayers will never change the fact that McCain knew Liddy was/is a traitor and chose to work with him, take money from him, and appear on the radio show that Liddy received as payment for his treason. On that show McCain called Liddy, &quot;my friend&quot; and expressed pride in him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And bringing up Ayers will never change the fact that McCain knew Liddy was/is a traitor and chose to work with him, take money from him, and appear on the radio show that Liddy received as payment for his treason. On that show McCain called Liddy, &#8220;my friend&#8221; and expressed pride in him.</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
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		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course, our resident wingers leap to excuse this conduct because John McCain was a POW. Or something.&quot;

Silly Quaker. We&#039;re just quoting the special prosecutor in the investigation. Take it up with him.

Bringing up Keating will never change the fact that Obama has always known that Bill Ayers was an unrepentant domestic terrorist and chose to work with him anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course, our resident wingers leap to excuse this conduct because John McCain was a POW. Or something.&#8221;</p>
<p>Silly Quaker. We&#8217;re just quoting the special prosecutor in the investigation. Take it up with him.</p>
<p>Bringing up Keating will never change the fact that Obama has always known that Bill Ayers was an unrepentant domestic terrorist and chose to work with him anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimrod Gently</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nimrod Gently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I picture Matt grinning vacantly and clapping his hands together like a seal after hitting the submit button on that &lt;i&gt;expert&lt;/i&gt; burn.

The surviving three Democrats of the Keating Five (surprise surprise) are not supporting the Republican candidate. McCain IS one of the Keating Five, and he&#039;s actually RUNNING for President. If you can&#039;t tell the difference you&#039;re genuinely as stupid as I pictured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I picture Matt grinning vacantly and clapping his hands together like a seal after hitting the submit button on that <i>expert</i> burn.</p>
<p>The surviving three Democrats of the Keating Five (surprise surprise) are not supporting the Republican candidate. McCain IS one of the Keating Five, and he&#8217;s actually RUNNING for President. If you can&#8217;t tell the difference you&#8217;re genuinely as stupid as I pictured.</p>
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