Comments on: Barack Tracking @ 50

By: Bruce

Bruce — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:56:31 +0000

Me to Freepers on the ledge: Jump, baby jump!

By: odubfan

odubfan — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:20:48 +0000

Yeah Leota2, it’s frikkin funny that Repubs are defending her daughter with fuego when they are the party that would normally attack a pol with a home situation like that. Not that I find unwed teen pregnancy ok, just that it’s normally a personal family matter. In this case, however, you have a pol from a party who wants to use morality like their badge of honor and well what have we here… A pol that comes out and advises morality but admits they too are imperfect is cool, they’re just trying to give good advice. A pol who criticizes and cuts down others for their morality errs while refusing to face up to their own dirt, however, is full of shit. Getting married now is still sex before marriage, anyway, so I’m not sure what they’re trying to prove with that, but yeah they will probably get hitched. I don’t think that will be enough, though. It would have to be either something very big, or several pretty good size events in a row. Stay woke.

By: Duros Hussein62

Duros Hussein62 — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:39:44 +0000

Man, those freepers sure hae a way with words, don’t they?

To: Perdogg

If this is true then we will have elected a Marxist for president and we can be expected to be carted off to the gulags and reeducation camps. Won’t be long until we are made into soap and our skin into lampshades. This is the Third Reich all over again right here in Obama’s New America. Fascist to the core.

42 posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:19:24 PM by RichardW

And they’re complaining about the lack of education in America.

By: C.S.Strowbridge

C.S.Strowbridge — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:51:20 +0000

“If true–these people are the lowest of low.”

Using your pregnant, under-aged, unmarried daughter as a political prop should kill a person’s political campaign. Hell, it should kill the party she belongs to.

By: Leota2

Leota2 — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:51:18 +0000

Odubfan–
The new stunt will be the pimping out of Palin’s daughter to be married before the election to her drop out boyfriend. This — it seems — is where the McCain campaign wants to go and where Palin is willing to allow him to go . . . We’ll see.
If true–these people are the lowest of low. If not–you are correct another — drama moment will happen.

By: C.S.Strowbridge

C.S.Strowbridge — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:37:04 +0000

“Lack of any one is, IMHO, a deal breaker.”

The latest deal has the first three, as far as a I know. But instead of loans, if the assets fail, the government gets stock.

It’s not a great deal and I would rather have the government nationalize the failed banks at this point. However, it is 100x better than the original bailout package, and better than doing nothing.

By: James E. Powell

James E. Powell — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:01:10 +0000

Polls are political torture.

It is always better to be ahead than tied, but I would only be comforted by a complete collapse of support for McCain, something around 40.

If the number goes up for Obama, the McCain campaign will increase and intensify its desperation. I would expect raw appeals to fear and bigotry.

This week may have revealed a split in the Republicans: one group wants to try to win this election, the other is setting themselves up for a comeback in 2010.

If McCain does not collapse after the Biden/Palin debate, I expect the corporate press/media to start working to shore up McCain’s numbers by turning on Obama with a vengeance. I am going by what they did in 2000. Every time Gore went up in the polls, the corporate press/media, not the Bush campaign, brought Gore back down.

By: odubfan

odubfan — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:27:13 +0000

When this administration did not have the attention and support of the people, they did something to get that attention. They announced some new development in Iraq, or they raised the terrorist threat level, or made up some new story like yellow cake or aluminum tubes. With McCain, this strategy is used again with his VP pick, the suggestion to fire the SEC chair, and the decision to suspend campaigning. Though more people believe he has better foreign policy experience and would handle terrorism better than Obama, most of the general public finds the economy more important right now. This is not McCain’s ground, and so his campaign is seriously trailing. I suspect that they will pull an elaborate stunt or series of stunts to bring our attention back to Iraq and terrorism. If Iraq and terrorism, or maybe even some sort of commie aggression threat from a united Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, etc etc etc, then McCain’s poll numbers may start coming back up, even if it’s all bullshit. Bad news has worked for them in the past. When this occurs, it takes several months to sort it out and get to the truth. We only have one month. A stunt at this time might be enough to get them into the White House. Of course, after eight years of this, we are becoming numb to this strategy, so it will take something notable or very constant for it to work again. Watch for bad news very soon.

By: Leota2

Leota2 — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:22:53 +0000

Oliver is correct.
(But I still get so bored with people whining towards TPCs.)
Everybody is in the soup now and Nader and Barr (obviously)
won’t be getting anyone out of anything. So pissed off Progressives and
Republicans might as well get in line with the rest of
us and not shit their votes away at this point.

By: Sean D. Martin

Sean D. Martin — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:13:54 +0000

1 – strong oversight
2 – money provided in stages with subsequent disbursements contingent on review of what has been done so far and whether it is working
3 – strict control over disbursements made by any company who receives Federal funds (i.e., no dividends paid, no executive bonuses, etc.)
4 – disbursements provided as loans (rather than outright buying of bad assets) or in some way to ensure as much as possible taxpayers get a return

Lack of any one is, IMHO, a deal breaker. I’d hope the same would be true for those who’ll be voting on this. Obama in particular.

By: Oliver Willis

Oliver Willis — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:34:03 +0000

Third parties are going to surge now.
Nader-Barr ’08!

The bailout deal is bad news all around, but both parties are going to be tied to it. As bad as the policy is, politically its likely everybody will take the hit.

By: mike

mike — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:32:42 +0000

Don’t get your hopes up yet. If Obama backs this incredibly corrupt bailout bill, and it seems that he will, it’s going to hurt him and the Democrats very, very, very deeply. Make no mistake. No honest, decent person is supporting this bailout, and his backing it will make him a laughingstock in progressive circles, and with those who understand economics, and with most of the American public. Don’t underestimate the damage and the fallout from this calamity. It will be very major, and very long-lasting. Third parties are going to surge now. This changes the entire election. It’s a whole new ballgame now.

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:23:26 +0000

I followed your link to the Freepers. Wow, are they stupid and America-hating bigots.

By: Leo

Leo — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:21:41 +0000

This election could be virtually over a week from now. One clear mockable gaffe by Palin in the debate and we will be in “dead girl/live boy/major terrorist attack” territory.

Amazing.