’)So, I wasn’t the only one who noticed something weird with McCain’s left eye. What the heck is going on there?
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what do they call small strokes? transient ischemic attacks or somesuch? either that, or it’s like when i was stressed to the point of breaking and could barely see for the eye-twitches. i should note that when i was in that state i wasn’t fit to be anything at all, let alone president.
he doesn’t look very good.
Saw it & you’re right on. Same side as his “problem” cheek!
So I am not going crazy. I noticed this emmediately when McCain made his comment yesterday. My first impression was he had had a mild stroke, and that was why he had suspended his campaign. A friend of mine mentioned the same thing to me later last night. I guess it was noticed by others. I wonder what gives.
McCain’s age does make me have doubt’s about him as President, but because of his health, I am really concerned, that Palin might end up as President. OMG! what an awful thought!
What’s wrong with you people? Don’t you know it’s an old POW injury acting up? McCain was a POW in Nam, you know. He doesn’t like to talk about it, but you can find out if you try.
He’s just doing his Stuart Scott impression.
I don’t mean to be cruel, but it his “lying” eye.
When you lie the body reacts. That’s why lie detectors are so accurate.
Sorry John. Tell the Truth and relax that eye.
With all due respect, he looks like the Mel Brooks character in Blazing Saddles, shouting for Hedy Lamarr.
“It’s Hedley!!!!”
Sorry, Mel.
McPa(l)in is not well.
I wouldn’t put the possibility of a micro-stroke out of the question. He’s the right age and condition for it. If he had some kind of health problem, it would help explain his latest political ploy for a delay in the debates.
An awkward situation easily improved with an eye patch (shoulder parrot optional)
As pointed out on several other blogs, it’s no coincidence that he’s recently hired a $5k makeup person from American Idol to replace whoever was doing his makeup. Now he wants to postpone his debate after calling out Barack for not agreeing to his requests for debates, this whole thing lately is just weird. Palin’s latest interview, Letterman calling him out after he lied to him, it’s like a massive trainwreck. Even funnier is watching the talking heads at Fox try to spin this all in his favor.
Stay focused on John McCain’s eye — please ! Keep watching that eye, as he goes to Washington, and takes the credit for trying to fix what was broken by Democrats…
Stay focused on that eye, as Palin gets stronger and tougher – while Biden is backing away from contradicting Obama – she is punching sides of beef in a Juneau butcher shop while reading NationMaster.com.
Stay focused on that eye, as Palin gets stronger and tougher
Mm-hm. Keep saying that while the Former Chief Inspector goes crazier and crazier. Even his former boosters, the Neocons won’t want him in another day or two.
Well, that was a subtle plug
Maybe it was him blinking in code. like they used to do in the old days – you know, say one thing, while blinking out “Help! Get me out of here!” all the while.
Oh, and Frank: you just keep on focusing on catapulting Republican’t propaganda while completely ignoring the reality of the situation, like you always have around here. I’m sure it will all work out for the Republican’ts if people like you just keep on lying to the american people. It sure makes them believe it when you 14 percenters spew out the same Republican’t lies over and over again. There’s no way they could figure out that Republican’ts are just trying to sell them some more snake oil…
It could be Bell’s Palsy, which is pretty benign. Aside from this weirdness, he doesn’t seem to show other signs of a stroke other than being slightly confused.
Actually, my uncle had cancer in a lymph node in his face, and it ended up effecting a nerve that resulted in something like this, too.
It was very noticable yesterday when he gave his ’suspension of the campaign’ speech. I was thinking not of a return of his cancer or sroke, but the beginnings of myasthenia gravis — a neuromuscular disease that afflicted Aristotle Onassis. There is no cure.
Aren’t the 14 percenters the people that believe that Congress (Democratic Party run) is doing a good job? That’s not my number…
AND, what is the reality of the situation? That Clinton / Cuomo didn’t put pressure on lenders to give mortgages to low income wage earners?
That Clinton / Cuomo didn’t force lenders to include welfare payments and unemployment in “income” for borrowing purposes?
That Clinton / Cuomo didn’t care if the buyers had to sell their homes down the road if they couldn’t keep up the payments?
That those same homeowners would have no one to sell their homes to, if the R E Market went flat?
Let’s blame “greed” — but, first, some evidence that the banks and other Mortgage financiers got “greedy” (unless by “greedy” you mean ‘desirous of a profit’)…
Because as palpable as debt may appear to be , you can’t eat an IOU…
I agree with mdpdb. It does look like bells palsy. If you look at his forehead you’ll see that he doesn’t have wrinkles on his left side. I’ve never closely observed his face before, but that’s what it looks like to me. Bells palsy isn’t serious, but whatever caused it could be.
I can’t help re-using this classic:
Frank, tell me. What clolr is the sky in your world?
I’m have seen ‘temporary’ eye drooping like this in brain injuries.
Seems to come on under stress, exhaustion, or associated with drug or alcohol, which I’m suggesting that is the case here.
But, Mr McCain did spend a few horrific years in detention, being tortured. Would not be hard to imagine that he suffered more than a few concussions during this time.
Everything bad that ever happened anywhere was Clinton’s fault. The subprime bubble only got started in 2002, you say? Still Clinton’s fault. 9/11? Clinton. Pearl Harbor? Clinton. Custer’s Last Stand? Clinton. Spanish Inquisition? You guessed it.
It’s only pink eye, the malady of toddlers and others who rub the eye with the unclean hand. Obviously too much bullshit floating around at the Palin-McCain day camp.
clolr = color
too much java…
So I guess the answer to my question goes like this : If you push an outhouse off a cliff, it’s not your fault if it crashes on the rocks below …
I think whose fault it is, is now irrelevant …
Who gets to “fix” it?
The guy who says , “I am campaigning over here! Call me when there’s REAL trouble!”
OR
The guy who says, “I am a Senator, and my country needs me in the Senate — not out on the stump!”?
This election will not be won by the wittiest commenter on Oliver’s blog. I hope you all REALize that …
“Stay focused on John McCain’s eye — please ! Keep watching that eye, as he goes to Washington, and takes the credit for trying to fix what was broken by Democrats…”
Broken by the Democrats?
The vast believe it was broken by the Republicans.
Given that, your opinions mean nothing, because you are stupid… also, you are out of touch with what most of the people think.
“The guy who says, ‘I am a Senator, and my country needs me in the Senate — not out on the stump!’?”
Most people think suspending his campaign was a mistake, but you really don’t care about reality.
Frankie, your posts here in the last few weeks since your return to this blog have been even less coherent and worthy of reading than they were a year or two ago. Do you feel your mind slipping? That it’s more difficult to remember things, like where you parked your car, what your childrens’ names are, what your position on governmental oversight is?
If so, you may be suffering from the same problems that are afflicting John McCain. Namely, you have become addled and confused in your old age.
Have fun with that.
Frank, to my knowledge neither Senator has missed a single vote where theirs would have altered the outcome, and the odds are against this one being any different. There are 98 other senators (even 97, excluding Tim Johnson), many with as much or more expertise in financial matters, who aren’t running to become the next head of the executive branch. Another way of saying ‘out on the stump’ is ‘allowing the electorate as much time and exposure as possible in making their decision as to who is best equipped to deal with the problem.’
It’s not as if the show can’t go on without Sens. McCain and Obama. Nobody’s going to go, “Hey, John and Barack here, now we can start!”
Allergies, makeup or allergic reaction to makeup, take your pick. I don’t think its someting to take that seriously.
Frank continues to explore the furthest reaches of imbecility.
My husband noticed it two days ago and brought it to my attention. Weird that everyone is starting to notice this at same time.
So I guess the answer to my question goes like this : If you push an outhouse off a cliff, it’s not your fault if it crashes on the rocks below …
Fu…WHA?!
Are you channeling Fred Thompson now?
The people commenting here seem to believe McCain’s eye condition has developed in the last day or two. But it has been around for a while.
See the photograph taken August 29 that appeared on the September 8 cover of Newsweek.
mccain appears as if mccain had a stroke. imo, his health is way to bad to make it in office. if elected, that leaves the gold-digger palin as pres. that would be a very bad thing. bad is having her as a vice pres. republicans have destoyed the u.s. completely. the u.s. was in top form in stature and surplus when Clinton left. idiot bush ruined everything he touched and the u.s. is at the bottom of the world in every way. repooplination didnt work.
Frank, Frank, Frank….
I don’t know where to begin. McCain admits not being strong on the economy. He hasn’t voted in the Senate since April. One of his main economic advisors (official or otherwise) is Phil Gramm, whose fingerprints are all over the deregulation of the financial sector that allowed this crisis to develop.
But, suddenly, Brave Sir Robin, err McCain, is running back to DC to save the day! How, exactly? What specific skills or knowledge does HE possess that will help solve the problem? [crickets...]
There are 2 connected issues here: the crappy mortgages that were handed out; and the fact that financial companies then bundled them up in a very opaque wrapper and sold them off to other companies.
The first issue was made worse by deregulation, but equal amounts of blame can be given to consumers and financial companies. However, the second issue could not have happened without deregulation, and it can (IMHO) be blamed almost completely on financial institutions.
Without the bundling and reselling, we’d be dealing with bad companies going belly up, as they probably should. With bundling and reselling, we *may* be facing a melt-down of the financial sector.
Or not. Your mileage may vary.
Mr Strowbridge — the Canadian – seeks to inform me that the vast majority of Americans believe that this financial fiasco is the Republicans’ fault, as if knowing what other people believe affects what I know to be true; as if they will never know the truth.
He further believes that “what I (Mr Strowbridge) believe” is what “most people believe”, as if either of those is relevant, or even true.
In contrast, Parthenon asserts that neither candidate has missed an important vote, as if that has anything to do with the current crisis, and how people will view Sen Obama’s reluctance to leave the campaign trail.
mambochicken, whose investigations into human behavior have apparently taught him nothing about it, seeks to convince me that I might be senile, and then asks me to “have fun with it.” Please, whatever you are doing with psychology, stay away from human beings. You will do more harm than good.
Nimrod still continues to explore the concept of “insult as ultimate response”.
And, finally Duros fails to understand that when you initiate a process where the outcome is foreseeable and inevitable, you are responsible for that income. Is that dry enough and “intellectual sounding” enough for you to understand it now?
Jeebus, you guys are superficial…
Frank, we’ll have to agree to disagree on how Senator Obama’s insistence on continuing the campaign will be viewed. In a few months, one of them will cease to be a Senator. I want to know what they will be doing in the coming years as an executive, not what they will do as 1% of half of the legislature.
OT, I’m glad you’re posting. Your comments and the replies they inspire are consistently interesting and entertaining.
God, I am so glad I found this line of comments. I thought I was going nuts.
I had heard he had hired a make up artist and thought they had done a terrible job because they only threaded one of his eye lids open.
I immediately thought about a small stroke. GOD, no question we would see a President Palin (and now picture our President stumbling over herself in conversation with Katie Couric) God no!!!!
Looks like I was wrong to think no one could be dumb enough to fall for McCain’s stunt … could anybody be so naive?
Maybe I should give these people the benefit of the doubt and just assume they’re shedding their dignity and falling in line. After asserting that Palin is a foreign policy expert because Alaska is next to Russia, they could tell you that the world is made of snow in the next breath.
So McCain as self-sacrificing savior of the economy? Pushing that line is a piece of cake in comparison
Parthenon: Of course , you are correct — no one can safely predict how this crisis will play into the hands of either candidate…
I was merely pointing out that banging the “people who make money are evil” drum is an old, played out meme, and, like it or not, the Democratic legislators are subdued because their party started this cycle with their minority preference loan scheme, while the Republicans don’t want to be seen as advocates for government intervention [now that wasn't very controversial, was it?]
So, what’s left to discuss? What the candidates will do, right?
I close with a snippet from Dick Morris’ Post column (I know, I know):
“Mr Strowbridge — the Canadian -”
Two points…
1.) You are an amazing bigot.
2.) The religion you claim to follow says you should burn in hell forever. I know that must cause emotional harm, but don’t take it out on others.
“…seeks to inform me that the vast majority of Americans believe that this financial fiasco is the Republicans’ fault, as if knowing what other people believe affects what I know to be true; as if they will never know the truth.”
What you know to be true? Frank, you’re an idiot. What you know to be true is meaningless. Additionally, you were not making claims on ‘the truth’ but on politics. You said this would play well politically, and you are wrong. The polls show that you are wrong.
“Parthenon: Of course , you are correct — no one can safely predict how this crisis will play into the hands of either candidate…”
No one can predict it with 100% accuracy, but the polls numbers are the only real evidence we have. And the polls say you are wrong.
My eye twitches when I am stressed. He could just be stressed. Then again, my friend’s eye does this a lot more often, and she described “facial paralysis” or unevenness in parts of her expressions. For example, the two sides looking distinctly different in terms of expression. Could be harmless, could be very bad. No true patriot could get himself elected while he knew his health was waning, right?
He needs to release his med records, PRONTO.
Also, did anyone see Clinton on the Daily Show? His hands were noticeably shaking. Parkinson’s maybe?
Oh, I meant to mention that my friend, discussed above, has Multiple Sclerosis…
I close with a snippet from Dick Morris’ Post column
That is the single greatest book cover ever.
Republicans: Debt on Debt. Bailout on Bailout. No Bid Contracts to friends on No Bid Contracts to frients.
MCCain Republican. Positions: formally issue based, now radical right wing based.
Palin Rebulican. Positions stated inconsistant with the record. Record questionalble, under investigation.
Congress 18 years republican, with ten under a republican president. Last two years democratic leadership, but with a large enough minority in the senate to block all democratic inititives.
Bottom line. If you love this country and want to give it a chance vote 100% democratic and give it a chance. Republicans had their chance and blew it. If you are young, have young children or grand children give them a chance for a decient life. Vote democratic.
I remember when he went on Neil Boortz plugging that thing a couple years ago. All these predictors and analysts should have to open every interview with “I’m basically just throwing darts at a board with names here, but…”
Looks like it could be Horner’s syndrome:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horner’s_syndrome
Many possible causes, but cancer at the top of the left lung or in the left side of the neck could do it.
He’s also got some area of swelling below and in front of the left ear. The two could easily be related.
I don’t know where on his body he had melanoma, nor if he was a smoker. These would be relevant questions.
We, the people, really should be informed of the results of his last chest x-ray and any CAT scan.
Follow-up post
I just read that one site of melanoma was his left temporal area. His noticeable area of jaw swelling is just below this area, where one might expect local lymph node recurrence to develop.
Left face and neck melanoma recurrence would easily cause Horner’s syndrome, affecting the left eye.
No wonder he wants to cancel the debate !!!
His campaign seems to be utterly dishonest, even treasonous, in the matter of this candidate’s health.
Not feelin’ too good, my friends. Got up to pee the other night and something funny went off in my head. You know, one of those funny feelings that something isn’t right, my friends, and it made my eye go all funny too. I’ve been thinking too hard lately over that 700 billion dollar thing that’s on the news all the time—what’s that all about? Anyway, my friends, what I need is to lay down and get a snuggle from Sarah. Obama won’t have me to kick around down there in Mississippi. After all, my friends, I’m a genuine POW War Hero—don’t debate me over that, my friends.
Oh you silly liberals! He’s an Auror, du-uh! His eye is always that way cause he’s magically scanning for evil Al Quida Dementors.
Frank,
McCain had not even read the proposal as of Tuesday. Last Monday he said the fundamentals of our economy were good and then he talks of “suspending” his campaign a week later. What did he suspend? He still has ads and surrogates and is doing three network interviews this week. McCain’s campaign has turned into a series of gimmicks to hide the tired shell of a man he is. He’s clown shoes.
Your analysis about the mortgage “crisis” is bunk, too. The reason this whole thing came to be is that the mortgage backed securities separated the mortgage officer who granted the loan from the risk and ridiculously low interest rates. It resulted in a market where loans were given in order to get a commission and if they failed, the individual granting the application could care less.
I’d vote for Mad-Eye Moody. Even if he ran as a Republican.
Yeah, Frank, we need the guy that’s been running around saying “everything is fine” to fix this problem. And what a job he’s doing rushing to Washington and derailing a nearly done deal.
This has nothing to do with a POW injury.
He’s had cancer and surgery for it multiple times.
He’s 70 years old.
He takes medicine for high blood pressure and to lower his cholesterol.
He has a family history of heart disease.
This is all public knowledge. What worries me is that he won’t release his medical history. What else is there to hide?
it’s the result of too many botox injsections.
A friend of mine observed a couple of weeks ago that she sees early signs of senile dementia in McCain’s facial oddities. She’s an experienced M.D. who has worked in geriatrics, and further remarked that the condition may have been encouraged by his long-ago mistreatment as a P.O.W. plus subsequent drug treatment for PTSD.
He’s wouldn’t be the first President to be propped up and wheeled around in ways designed to hide physical disability (FDR and Woodrow Wilson come to mind). But when you consider who would be a the controls in place of a fully capable McCain or an Alaskan ex-Governor with a brain in her head, this gets a little scary: it would be, of course, the same neocon team that has been running the country into the ground for two terms: Rove, Cheney, Feith, et al.
We really can’t afford these arrogant, greedy nitwits any longer. In fact, we couldn’t afford them from the get-go, as the current melt-down amply demonstrates. So my question is: are the majority of modern American voters too plain stupid for democracy? If so, what a terrible failing, and what a pity that would be!
Time will tell.
it may be a touch of bells palsy
Who gets to “fix” it?
Not the ones who broke it, that’s for sure.
You wouldn’t trust a PETA member to run a buchery, so why would you trust a Republican to run the government?
AND, what is the reality of the situation? That Clinton / Cuomo didn’t put pressure on lenders to give mortgages to low income wage earners?
Here’s a study showing a few things about CRA loans.
CRA loans constituted only 23% of all loans and 9.2% of high-cost loans.
CRA loans were twice as likely to be retained in the originating bank’s portfolio than loans made by other institutions.
CRA loans were less likely to be foreclosed upon than other loans.
But don’t let that stop you. Can’t let those feral darkies be homeowner, now can we?
Mr Strowbridge — the Canadian – seeks to inform me that the vast majority of Americans believe that this financial fiasco is the Republicans’ fault, as if knowing what other people believe affects what I know to be true; as if they will never know the truth.
He further believes that “what I (Mr Strowbridge) believe” is what “most people believe”, as if either of those is relevant, or even true.
Translation: “That can’t be true. If it were, I’d be an idiot.”
Let’s stop making this about me , before Oliver blames me for derailing the thread…
Mr WTF seems to think that this is the fault of the lenders.
The question is , “Did they break any laws?” No
Were they acting in accordance with the government’s plan? Yes
Has the government’s plan been effective? No
So Zython is right about exactly one thing (I think it’s the first time, in my memory) : We are asking the ones who “broke” it to “fix” it.
Which is a very interesting point : You all are asking the most liberal Senator in the Senate to change things.
AND
As I have been asking for days, “Change WHAT things to WHAT things?”
No laws broken? Well, there’s a pending FBI investigation so I wouldn’t bet the bank on that.
But the lenders are guilty of something – being really shitty businessmen. We didn’t experience a real estate bubble because suddenly poor people decided to get McMansions, no matter how much you guys try to push that line. It was mortgage companies, banks, and brokers giving out these loans to people like candy and promoting the idea that those low interest rates would last forever (especially on ARMs). Then the idiot banks packaged up these risky loans with each other and started trading them back and forth as if the piper would never come home for payment.
In other words alcoholics were given free refills then handed the keys to the car and all the cops were given the night off.
Frank, you have a habit of derailing threads like this one, then when people shoot your arguments full of holes, you play the victim. It’s why I’ve banned you in the past and why many wish you would stop being an ass. As I keep having to say, it isn’t your wrongheaded politics that produces these annoyances.
As I have been asking for days, “Change WHAT things to WHAT things?”
Well, not having laws that discriminate against gays for no reason, for starters.
How about: changing an administration dedicated to looting the government to one that is actually interested in governing?
For starters
You all are asking the most liberal Senator in the Senate to change things.
False.
Facial Nerve Palsy vs Injury,
Notice that the left side of his mouth also droops.
His surgical scars reflect the substantial resection of the left side of his face esp. in front of the left ear where the facial nerve splits into branches. The standard mnemonic for remembering the facial nerve’s motor branches (going to muscles) from that point is “To Zanzibar bay motor car”. The main branches are temporal (forehead and eyelid), zygomatic (area lateral to the eye), bucchal, Marginal mandibular, and cervical.
This is most likely a consequence of injury to the nerve from his surgery while obtaining wide margins when removing his melanoma. Removal of melanoma tumors demands taking a significant amount of normal surrounding tissue to ensure that removal is complete.
It could also be from scar contraction which occurs over time, or much less likely tumor, causing a facial nerve palsy.
Peace, JK
Facial Nerve Palsy vs Injury,
Notice that the left side of his mouth also droops.
His surgical scars reflect the substantial resection of the left side of his face esp. in front of the left ear where the facial nerve splits into branches. The standard mnemonic for remembering the facial nerve’s motor branches (going to muscles) from that point is “To Zanzibar bay motor car”. The main branches are temporal (forehead and eyelid), zygomatic (area lateral to the eye), bucchal, Marginal mandibular, and cervical.
This is most likely a consequence of injury to the nerve from his surgery while obtaining wide margins when removing his melanoma. Removal of melanoma tumors demands taking a significant amount of normal surrounding tissue to ensure that removal is complete.
It could also be from scar contraction which occurs over time, or much less likely tumor, causing a facial nerve palsy.
Peace, JK
Correction for JK Facial Nerve… above:
Sorry I didn’t Spell Check. The mnemonic should read: ““To Zanzibar by motor car”
Peace,
JK
Transient Ischemic Attack, looks like. A small stroke.
IANAD, however, and it’s impossible to diagnose anything via a video anyway.
Isn’t it obvious that John McCain’s eye looks strange because he’s actually a cyborg (as is W., Cheney, Condolezza Rice, Ashcroft, Schwartzkopf, etc)? They’re all not human, which explains a lot.
They’re actually all playing their part in a vast conspiracy whereby the space aliens and the upper heads of government and big business are working together to turn the rest of the human species into a giant ant colony in order to serve them.
Okay, so maybe I’m exagerating to the point of fantasy; nevertheless, there is a lot of truth to what I’m saying here….Perhaps I’m right about everything except for the space aliens….
On the bright side, I don’t think that Obama or Biden are cyborgs. I don’t think that they are part of the global conspiracy. I do think that Obama and Biden are real human beings who care about us real human beings, and that they might start to undo the damage that Bush, Jr. has done to our U.S. Constitution, our civil liberties, and the soul of our great nation.
hey john mc’cain should win it dnt matter by how he looks but it matters how he is..so dats stupid wat yall tlknq bout..jux cus of hes eye,
(:
His right eye is from glass or something like it, it’s clearly seen on the picture from Wiki:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/John_McCain_official_portrait_with_alternative_background.jpg
center of one eye is grey and center of the other is black
I find that the more I check out Mr. McCain’s eyes they look very back, I can hardly notice the white in his eyes
i’ve been noticing the weirdness of mcains eye for awhile now. i couldn’t believe when i googled this that so many have noticed it too.yesterday he was photographed with this eye facing the lights of the cameras, and it looked remarkably unhealthy. as in brain tumor unhealthy. his eye had a strange reflective quality and a dead look. i believe the stress of the campaign has taken a toll on his health and he needs to retire, not run for the most stressful job on the planet.