Comments on: The Palin Effect In Florida http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:59:19 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: PD100 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116272 PD100 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:57:16 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116272 guess the mouthbreathers are counting on more caging and voter roll purges... guess the mouthbreathers are counting on more caging and voter roll purges…

]]> By: essrog http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116250 essrog Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:03:42 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116250 I guess your evangelical church takes a relaxed attitude toward profanity, so No: I would wager that you might not be in that "inner sanctum" of fervent believers (Unless you made up being a member of an evangelical church just to suggest intimate knowledge on the subject ... but why would that thought even cross my mind? Shame, on, me!) I guess your evangelical church takes a relaxed attitude toward profanity, so No: I would wager that you might not be in that “inner sanctum” of fervent believers

(Unless you made up being a member of an evangelical church just to suggest intimate knowledge on the subject … but why would that thought even cross my mind? Shame, on, me!)

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116248 Oliver Willis Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:53:07 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116248 Well, does your church gather to pray the gay away like Palin's? Maybe she's more extreme than you are - quite likely. Well, does your church gather to pray the gay away like Palin’s? Maybe she’s more extreme than you are – quite likely.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116235 Jay Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:51:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116235 And Oliver, what is Sarah Palin's association with that group? I must have missed something in all the years I've been attending my church. We're evangelical Christians and I've never heard anybody advocating a war in the Middle East. I guess I didn't learn the secret handshake or something to be allowed into the inner sanctum where we all gather to pray for war in the Middle East. One of the stupidest fucking things you've ever written. I expect horseshit like that from the kook left Oliver, not you. As for Florida, Obama has other things to worry about. Check the latest Pollster.com home page. Obama is down to 202 electoral votes as several rust belt states have now moved to toss-up status. And Oliver, what is Sarah Palin’s association with that group? I must have missed something in all the years I’ve been attending my church. We’re evangelical Christians and I’ve never heard anybody advocating a war in the Middle East. I guess I didn’t learn the secret handshake or something to be allowed into the inner sanctum where we all gather to pray for war in the Middle East.

One of the stupidest fucking things you’ve ever written. I expect horseshit like that from the kook left Oliver, not you.

As for Florida, Obama has other things to worry about. Check the latest Pollster.com home page. Obama is down to 202 electoral votes as several rust belt states have now moved to toss-up status.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116227 Oliver Willis Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:00:32 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116227 <i>Oliver, that ranks as one of the stupidest fucking things you’ve ever written.</i> Really? <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/rapture-ready-the-unauth_b_57826.html" rel="nofollow">Really?</a> Did I say Obama would win Florida? No, I said "tells me that all may not be lost for Democrats in Florida". I think the data says Florida is likely to be closer than forecast. Why? * Bush won Florida by 5% in 2004 * He was helped by <a href="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004//pages/results/states/FL/P/00/epolls.0.html" rel="nofollow">winning 13%</a> of the black vote after getting 7% in 2000. That number is unlikely to be even remotely close to that in '08. (for instance, <a href="http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=83889f62-d3ce-4176-a1a1-164a31cbf1e2" rel="nofollow">in SurveyUSA</a>'s latest poll - the most favorable to McCain in FL right now - they have McCain winning 21% of the black vote. If you think he's going to do better with black voters than Bush with Obama as the Dem candidate I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn) * Bush got 56% of the latino vote. McCain probably will win the latino (Cuban) vote in FL, but not 56% of it. Is Florida McCain's to lose? You bet. But Florida is not like Texas for McCain or Maryland for Obama. Oliver, that ranks as one of the stupidest fucking things you’ve ever written.
Really? Really?

Did I say Obama would win Florida? No, I said “tells me that all may not be lost for Democrats in Florida”. I think the data says Florida is likely to be closer than forecast.

Why?

* Bush won Florida by 5% in 2004
* He was helped by winning 13% of the black vote after getting 7% in 2000. That number is unlikely to be even remotely close to that in ‘08. (for instance, in SurveyUSA’s latest poll – the most favorable to McCain in FL right now – they have McCain winning 21% of the black vote. If you think he’s going to do better with black voters than Bush with Obama as the Dem candidate I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn)
* Bush got 56% of the latino vote. McCain probably will win the latino (Cuban) vote in FL, but not 56% of it.

Is Florida McCain’s to lose? You bet. But Florida is not like Texas for McCain or Maryland for Obama.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116214 C.S.Strowbridge Sat, 20 Sep 2008 04:15:46 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116214 "Oliver, that ranks as one of the stupidest fucking things you’ve ever written." You are an expert on stupid. "A recent poll in Florida showed that 60% thought Palin was a good choice by McCain and the addition of her to the ticket boosted former Hillary supporters now prepared to vote for McCain 10% up to 24% from 14%." Got a link? I'm not calling you a liar, but you've managed to drop your credibility to less than zero. “Oliver, that ranks as one of the stupidest fucking things you’ve ever written.”

You are an expert on stupid.

“A recent poll in Florida showed that 60% thought Palin was a good choice by McCain and the addition of her to the ticket boosted former Hillary supporters now prepared to vote for McCain 10% up to 24% from 14%.”

Got a link? I’m not calling you a liar, but you’ve managed to drop your credibility to less than zero.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116207 Jay Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:14:55 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116207 <i>I also think that Palin’s close association with the fringe of the Christian right who want war in the Middle East to bring about the rapture isn’t helping among Jewish voters.</i> Oliver, that ranks as one of the stupidest fucking things you've ever written. Obama is not going to win Florida. The bulk of his strength comes from southeast Florida and that's about it. There hasn't been a single poll in Florida where Obama has cracked 50% and his average has been in the 43-47% range for the last month and a half. A recent poll in Florida showed that 60% thought Palin was a good choice by McCain and the addition of her to the ticket boosted former Hillary supporters now prepared to vote for McCain 10% up to 24% from 14%. I also think that Palin’s close association with the fringe of the Christian right who want war in the Middle East to bring about the rapture isn’t helping among Jewish voters.

Oliver, that ranks as one of the stupidest fucking things you’ve ever written.

Obama is not going to win Florida. The bulk of his strength comes from southeast Florida and that’s about it. There hasn’t been a single poll in Florida where Obama has cracked 50% and his average has been in the 43-47% range for the last month and a half.

A recent poll in Florida showed that 60% thought Palin was a good choice by McCain and the addition of her to the ticket boosted former Hillary supporters now prepared to vote for McCain 10% up to 24% from 14%.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116200 Bruce Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:05:44 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116200 Ironic and sickening news of the day. The Republican Jewish Coalition and allied Republican Jewish organizations are funding big-butt ads in Jewish weeklies showing big pictures of (former?) Republican Pat Buchanan and Senator Obama, accusing Obama of being similar to Buchanan in terms of Israel policy. Of course, this is straight out of Rove's Rat______ing 101 textbook. Only Palin has ever worn a Buchanan button in support and, according to Buchanan himself talking on Matthews, was a fundraiser in Alaska for the Buchanan pitchfork brigade. Ironic and sickening news of the day. The Republican Jewish Coalition and allied Republican Jewish organizations are funding big-butt ads in Jewish weeklies showing big pictures of (former?) Republican Pat Buchanan and Senator Obama, accusing Obama of being similar to Buchanan in terms of Israel policy.

Of course, this is straight out of Rove’s Rat______ing 101 textbook. Only Palin has ever worn a Buchanan button in support and, according to Buchanan himself talking on Matthews, was a fundraiser in Alaska for the Buchanan pitchfork brigade.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116195 C.S.Strowbridge Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:04:01 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116195 "The question is: do the number of religious Republicans activated outnumber the number of undecideds-flipped-for-Obama?" Looking at Bush's approval rating, I would have to guess no. “The question is: do the number of religious Republicans activated outnumber the number of undecideds-flipped-for-Obama?”

Looking at Bush’s approval rating, I would have to guess no.

]]> By: jr http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116188 jr Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:35:11 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116188 "Who needs our kids to have white collar jobs? Sarah will make sure our kids learn the truth that God created the fossil record to test our faith"-repubs “Who needs our kids to have white collar jobs? Sarah will make sure our kids learn the truth that God created the fossil record to test our faith”-repubs

]]> By: essrog http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/19/the-palin-effect-in-florida/#comment-116187 essrog Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:11:23 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9379#comment-116187 This is the flipside of the Palin polarization gamble: McCain can fire up the base by igniting culture war issues, but this also alienates centrists and independents who might have otherwise supported him. The question is: do the number of religious Republicans activated outnumber the number of undecideds-flipped-for-Obama? This is the flipside of the Palin polarization gamble: McCain can fire up the base by igniting culture war issues, but this also alienates centrists and independents who might have otherwise supported him.

The question is: do the number of religious Republicans activated outnumber the number of undecideds-flipped-for-Obama?

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