Comments on: McCain: I’d Fire A Guy I Don’t Have The Power To Fire http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:00:25 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Bring It On! » Blog Archive » Our National Village Idiot is Missing http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-116286 Bring It On! » Blog Archive » Our National Village Idiot is Missing Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:23:29 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-116286 [...] McCain: I’d Fire A Guy I Don’t Have The Power To Fire [...] [...] McCain: I’d Fire A Guy I Don’t Have The Power To Fire [...]

]]> By: Jay Tea http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-116063 Jay Tea Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:37:40 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-116063 John McCain's actual words: "If I were president today, I would fire him." Actual legal expert (lawyer who worked at the FTC) on the matter: http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_09_14-2008_09_20.shtml#1221792170 Short version: the president can not fire him from the commission, but can "fire" him from the chairmanship and appoint -- WITHOUT Congressional approval -- a new chairman, as long as that chairman is already a commissioner. So Bush (who -- sigh -- has stated his full faith in the current FTC chairman) can remove him from his position and put someone else in his place entirely at his discretion. The president can, at any time, for any reason or no reason, remove the chairman of the FTC and name another member the head entirely of the president's own authority. J. John McCain’s actual words:

“If I were president today, I would fire him.”

Actual legal expert (lawyer who worked at the FTC) on the matter:

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_09_14-2008_09_20.shtml#1221792170

Short version: the president can not fire him from the commission, but can “fire” him from the chairmanship and appoint — WITHOUT Congressional approval — a new chairman, as long as that chairman is already a commissioner.

So Bush (who — sigh — has stated his full faith in the current FTC chairman) can remove him from his position and put someone else in his place entirely at his discretion. The president can, at any time, for any reason or no reason, remove the chairman of the FTC and name another member the head entirely of the president’s own authority.

J.

]]> By: Dennhis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-116017 Dennhis Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:58:38 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-116017 <i>Dennis, he didn’t say “If I were president and had the power to do so, I’d fire him.” He said “If I were president.” Isn’t that a rather clear implication that he thought the president had that power?</i> Looks like the President does have that power: <a href="http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/punditry/comments/massive_misinformation_on_the_web_the_president_can_fire_the_sec_chairman/" rel="nofollow">Massive Misinformation: The President Can Fire the President</a> Cheetos. Mom's basement. Pajamas. Dennis, he didn’t say “If I were president and had the power to do so, I’d fire him.” He said “If I were president.” Isn’t that a rather clear implication that he thought the president had that power?

Looks like the President does have that power:

Massive Misinformation: The President Can Fire the President

Cheetos. Mom’s basement. Pajamas.

]]> By: buma http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-116001 buma Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:07:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-116001 <i>It took a stock market crash and unprecedented set of brokerage house bankruptcies to give you guys a little spring in your step again.</i> No, it only took a few years of wall-to-wall GOP policy. Remember that for six years bush had not a single veto. Six years of no-compromise Republican legislation. This is the inevitable result of relaxed regulation. It took a stock market crash and unprecedented set of brokerage house bankruptcies to give you guys a little spring in your step again.

No, it only took a few years of wall-to-wall GOP policy. Remember that for six years bush had not a single veto. Six years of no-compromise Republican legislation. This is the inevitable result of relaxed regulation.

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115959 Parthenon Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:59:44 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115959 Dennis, he didn't say "If I were president and had the power to do so, I'd fire him." He said "If I were president." Isn't that a rather clear implication that he thought the president had that power? Dennis, he didn’t say “If I were president and had the power to do so, I’d fire him.” He said “If I were president.” Isn’t that a rather clear implication that he thought the president had that power?

]]> By: midderpidge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115957 midderpidge Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:58:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115957 Two weeks ago McCain selected an unknown to bolster his campaign. It worked for 2 weeks. Now people know her and her negatives have overtaken her positives. Her bump is gone. Two weeks ago McCain selected an unknown to bolster his campaign. It worked for 2 weeks. Now people know her and her negatives have overtaken her positives. Her bump is gone.

]]> By: Duros Hussein 62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115953 Duros Hussein 62 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:35:40 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115953 <i>It took a stock market crash and unprecedented set of brokerage house bankruptcies to give you guys a little spring in your step again.</i> Oh, is this part of the tired old saw about how leftists want the economy to fail? Yeah, no. Not even close. It took a stock market crash and unprecedented set of brokerage house bankruptcies to give you guys a little spring in your step again.

Oh, is this part of the tired old saw about how leftists want the economy to fail?

Yeah, no. Not even close.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115951 Dennis Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:21:44 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115951 <i>Even the trolls must be getting a little nervous.</i> Go back in the archives to Monday and the prior two weeks if you want to see nervousness. Then you can get a more accurate compare/contrast. It took a stock market crash and unprecedented set of brokerage house bankruptcies to give you guys a little spring in your step again. Even the trolls must be getting a little nervous.

Go back in the archives to Monday and the prior two weeks if you want to see nervousness. Then you can get a more accurate compare/contrast. It took a stock market crash and unprecedented set of brokerage house bankruptcies to give you guys a little spring in your step again.

]]> By: Duros Hussein 62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115939 Duros Hussein 62 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:00:41 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115939 How is it that McCain is still a viable candidate, again? Even the trolls must be getting a little nervous. How is it that McCain is still a viable candidate, again?

Even the trolls must be getting a little nervous.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115931 Quaker in a Basement Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:20:43 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115931 <em>I know that’s the case but I can’t prove it and I can’t google it, so it’s just conjecture on my part, I’ll admit.</em> In other words, you're making it up. I know that’s the case but I can’t prove it and I can’t google it, so it’s just conjecture on my part, I’ll admit.

In other words, you’re making it up.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115928 C.S.Strowbridge Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:04:03 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115928 "Faith-based trolling" Exactly. They are so used to dealing with leadership that thinks evidence is not only unnecessary, but that asking for evidence is a sing of weakness. It would be funny, if they didn't have so much political power. “Faith-based trolling”

Exactly. They are so used to dealing with leadership that thinks evidence is not only unnecessary, but that asking for evidence is a sing of weakness.

It would be funny, if they didn’t have so much political power.

]]> By: MobiusKlein http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115925 MobiusKlein Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:45:49 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115925 Dennis, the President can dismiss members of the cabinet. But not the SEC chair. As a lefty-commie-subversive, I would have fired Many above IF I HAD THE POWER TO. The thing I do have power to do is to vote for the guy who can do it for me. Dennis, the President can dismiss members of the cabinet.
But not the SEC chair.

As a lefty-commie-subversive, I would have fired Many above IF I HAD THE POWER TO. The thing I do have power to do is to vote for the guy who can do it for me.

]]> By: essrog http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115921 essrog Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:31:35 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115921 Faith-based trolling Faith-based trolling

]]> By: Dennis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/18/mccain-id-fire-a-guy-i-dont-have-the-power-to-fire/#comment-115915 Dennis Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:55:55 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9320#comment-115915 What a gaffe. I'm sure there were a lot of Democrats who harbored thoughts of saying they'd fire Don Rumsfeld and Alberto Gonzalez and Karl Rove and Scooter Libbie and Dick Cheney and ad infinitum, but held their <i>collective</i> tongues because they knew they didn't have the power to. I know that's the case but I can't prove it and I can't google it, so it's just conjecture on my part, I'll admit. What a gaffe. I’m sure there were a lot of Democrats who harbored thoughts of saying they’d fire Don Rumsfeld and Alberto Gonzalez and Karl Rove and Scooter Libbie and Dick Cheney and ad infinitum, but held their collective tongues because they knew they didn’t have the power to.

I know that’s the case but I can’t prove it and I can’t google it, so it’s just conjecture on my part, I’ll admit.

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