Comments on: Is Rush Limbaugh Going To Lose Another Race For The GOP? http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: fafaroo http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115887 fafaroo Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:46:07 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115887 "To tie his immigration stance with Rush Limbaugh’s ... is grossly dishonest." Just noting that we have to speak of McCain's mavericky immigration policy in the past tense. What's his current position on immigration? Amnesty is gone and border security is at the top of the list. Enforcement is all he talks about now, just as the hard right demanded he do. He flip flopped on the issue and is now firmly in the hard right camp on immigration. “To tie his immigration stance with Rush Limbaugh’s … is grossly dishonest.”

Just noting that we have to speak of McCain’s mavericky immigration policy in the past tense. What’s his current position on immigration? Amnesty is gone and border security is at the top of the list. Enforcement is all he talks about now, just as the hard right demanded he do. He flip flopped on the issue and is now firmly in the hard right camp on immigration.

]]> By: Jay Tea http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115869 Jay Tea Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:18:59 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115869 McCain's stance on illegal aliens is one of the things that most pisses off the right. It was the right that hung the name "McAmnesty" on him after he co-sponsored his amnesty bill with Ted Kennedy. To tie his immigration stance with Rush Limbaugh's -- who I don't listen to and don't like, but understand that he's of the Tom Tancredo end of the spectrum, and repeatedly savaged McCain on McCain's prior actions on the issue -- is grossly dishonest. It's about of a par with linking Obama with corrupt pols like Dan Rostenkowski and Mel Reynolds -- hey, they're all Chicago Democrats, right? J. McCain’s stance on illegal aliens is one of the things that most pisses off the right. It was the right that hung the name “McAmnesty” on him after he co-sponsored his amnesty bill with Ted Kennedy. To tie his immigration stance with Rush Limbaugh’s — who I don’t listen to and don’t like, but understand that he’s of the Tom Tancredo end of the spectrum, and repeatedly savaged McCain on McCain’s prior actions on the issue — is grossly dishonest. It’s about of a par with linking Obama with corrupt pols like Dan Rostenkowski and Mel Reynolds — hey, they’re all Chicago Democrats, right?

J.

]]> By: william http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115831 william Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:07:55 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115831 Linking Limbaugh to McCain is funny. Seeing Obama lie to the brown skinned, spanish speaking folks...priceless. Linking Limbaugh to McCain is funny.

Seeing Obama lie to the brown skinned, spanish speaking folks…priceless.

]]> By: jr http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115805 jr Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:19:53 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115805 Rush blames immigrants for his failure to satisfy wife after wife after wife Rush blames immigrants for his failure to satisfy wife after wife after wife

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115802 Parthenon Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:05:37 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115802 <i>Change my big white ass.</i> 2004 - Republican 2000 - Republican 1996 - Centrist Democrat 1992 - Centrist Democrat 1988 - Republican 1984 - Republican 1980 - Republican 1976 - Actual liberal 1972 - Republican 1968 - Republican 1964 - Domestic liberal but unapologetic foreign policy hawk 1960 - Centrist Democrat Jay, you can argue against the wisdom of the changes involved, but I don't see how you could argue that there wouldn't be a serious change. Change my big white ass.

2004 – Republican
2000 – Republican
1996 – Centrist Democrat
1992 – Centrist Democrat
1988 – Republican
1984 – Republican
1980 – Republican
1976 – Actual liberal
1972 – Republican
1968 – Republican
1964 – Domestic liberal but unapologetic foreign policy hawk
1960 – Centrist Democrat

Jay, you can argue against the wisdom of the changes involved, but I don’t see how you could argue that there wouldn’t be a serious change.

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115801 Parthenon Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:56:41 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115801 <i>Yeah, Limbaugh always uses the “out of context” dodge.</i> I've heard him use it at least twice when he was obviously lying (based on the transcript MM provided), but he appears to be in the right here. As far as expressing the greater truth that the Republican Party's platform is less friendly to the hispanic community than that of the Democrats, I think the ad was spot-on. But it looks to me like it pulled a Vic Mackey on the evidence. Yeah, Limbaugh always uses the “out of context” dodge.

I’ve heard him use it at least twice when he was obviously lying (based on the transcript MM provided), but he appears to be in the right here. As far as expressing the greater truth that the Republican Party’s platform is less friendly to the hispanic community than that of the Democrats, I think the ad was spot-on. But it looks to me like it pulled a Vic Mackey on the evidence.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115800 Oliver Willis Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:52:41 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115800 Yes, Barack Obama is proposing common sense solutions to Republican messes. We've tried to warn you about these things for a long time, but you all didn't listen. It's not Sen. Obama's fault or ours that the liberals of the past were still smarter than the Republicans who keep making a mess of our country. Yes, Barack Obama is proposing common sense solutions to Republican messes. We’ve tried to warn you about these things for a long time, but you all didn’t listen. It’s not Sen. Obama’s fault or ours that the liberals of the past were still smarter than the Republicans who keep making a mess of our country.

]]> By: C.S.Strowbridge http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115793 C.S.Strowbridge Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:25:21 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115793 "I wasn’t talking to morons. Sorry." This makes sense. I've often thought that you don't pay attention to what you say. “I wasn’t talking to morons. Sorry.”

This makes sense. I’ve often thought that you don’t pay attention to what you say.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115788 Jay Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:05:50 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115788 <i>Why you think we’d be interested is beyond me.</i> I wasn't talking to morons. Sorry. Why you think we’d be interested is beyond me.

I wasn’t talking to morons. Sorry.

]]> By: Just John http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115785 Just John Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:56:51 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115785 Wait. What is McCain's immigration position today? I seem to recall he was for the bill he wrote. And then he was against it. And recently he ran spanish language ads blaming the democrats for killing the bill that he no longer supports? Can that all be right? Wait.
What is McCain’s immigration position today?
I seem to recall he was for the bill he wrote.
And then he was against it.
And recently he ran spanish language ads blaming the democrats for killing the bill that he no longer supports?
Can that all be right?

]]> By: Tyro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115778 Tyro Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:38:01 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115778 Jay, actually, sweeping the Republicans out of the executive branch and driving Arizona has-beens who've been preening on the national stage since the late 80s <i>would</i> be a big change. Funny you should mock change when you're the one lining up behind the candidate desperate for a "do over" after getting his ass handed to him by Bush in embarrassingly humiliating fashion and then, in a final act of submission, hires Bush's campaign staff. Americans are tired, tired, tired of Republicans and their failures. But yeah, Jay, keep shilling for the worthless ideas that have caused us so much trouble over the years. You're not fooling anyone. Republican ideas and policies are loser ideas. Why you think we'd be interested is beyond me. Jay, actually, sweeping the Republicans out of the executive branch and driving Arizona has-beens who’ve been preening on the national stage since the late 80s would be a big change.

Funny you should mock change when you’re the one lining up behind the candidate desperate for a “do over” after getting his ass handed to him by Bush in embarrassingly humiliating fashion and then, in a final act of submission, hires Bush’s campaign staff.

Americans are tired, tired, tired of Republicans and their failures. But yeah, Jay, keep shilling for the worthless ideas that have caused us so much trouble over the years. You’re not fooling anyone. Republican ideas and policies are loser ideas. Why you think we’d be interested is beyond me.

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115772 Jay Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:51:50 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115772 Oliver, Obama talks about "We're the ones we've been waiting for" yet every idea he has is a rehash of liberal wet dream proposals and programs that we've heard before. And now, desperately whipping out the race card, using a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD quote, and tying it to John McCain? Change my big white ass. Oliver, Obama talks about “We’re the ones we’ve been waiting for” yet every idea he has is a rehash of liberal wet dream proposals and programs that we’ve heard before. And now, desperately whipping out the race card, using a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD quote, and tying it to John McCain? Change my big white ass.

]]> By: JWG http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115771 JWG Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:46:10 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115771 So Jake Tapper is a lying partisan hack? So Jake Tapper is a lying partisan hack?

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115770 Oliver Willis Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:44:13 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115770 Yeah, Limbaugh always uses the "out of context" dodge. He thinks folks like Think Progress, Media Matters, etc. need to post the entire program in order to fact check his ass. <a href="http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/tags/rush_limbaugh" rel="nofollow">Um, no.</a> Yeah, Limbaugh always uses the “out of context” dodge. He thinks folks like Think Progress, Media Matters, etc. need to post the entire program in order to fact check his ass. Um, no.

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115768 Parthenon Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:29:41 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115768 Well damn. One ought to read the links <i>before</i> posting - more or less echoed about the third or fourth paragraph down in Martin's blog post... Well damn. One ought to read the links before posting – more or less echoed about the third or fourth paragraph down in Martin’s blog post…

]]> By: JWG http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115765 JWG Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:28:06 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115765 <blockquote>I obviously don’t have access to his archives</blockquote> <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/from-the-fact-1.html" rel="nofollow">Jake Tapper</a>

I obviously don’t have access to his archives

Jake Tapper

]]> By: Parthenon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115763 Parthenon Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:24:59 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115763 Like Quaker, I'm one of those liberal types who listens to Rush Limbaugh occasionally, most often in the car on the way from A to B. This morning was one of those times. He claims that the Obama ad took him out of context, that what he was actually doing was describing the way the <i>Mexican</i> Government treats its immigrants, contrasting their immigration law with that of the United States. I obviously don't have access to his archives, but that's what he claims, anyway. Like Quaker, I’m one of those liberal types who listens to Rush Limbaugh occasionally, most often in the car on the way from A to B. This morning was one of those times. He claims that the Obama ad took him out of context, that what he was actually doing was describing the way the Mexican Government treats its immigrants, contrasting their immigration law with that of the United States. I obviously don’t have access to his archives, but that’s what he claims, anyway.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115754 Quaker in a Basement Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:50:49 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115754 <em>why not run John Kerry again?</em> Because he already lost to Bush once. why not run John Kerry again?

Because he already lost to Bush once.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115753 Oliver Willis Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:50:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115753 Are you reduced to just pushing non sequiturs now? Or are you in the Nader camp of saying Obama isn't a change from Bush/McCain? Or just off your meds? Are you reduced to just pushing non sequiturs now? Or are you in the Nader camp of saying Obama isn’t a change from Bush/McCain? Or just off your meds?

]]> By: Jay http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/17/is-rush-limbaugh-going-to-lose-another-race-for-the-gop/#comment-115750 Jay Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:45:27 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=9265#comment-115750 HOPE! CHANGE! Obama is proving to be as much about change as John Kerry. Shit, why not run John Kerry again? HOPE! CHANGE!

Obama is proving to be as much about change as John Kerry. Shit, why not run John Kerry again?

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