Questions swirl.
The poll also underlined the extent to which Mr. McCain’s convention — and his selection of Ms. Palin — had excited Republican base voters about his candidacy, a development that is no small thing in a contest that continues to be so tight: 47 percent of Mr. McCain’s supporters described themselves as enthused about the Republican party’s presidential ticket, almost twice what it was before the conventions. As often happens at this time of year, partisans are coalescing around their party’s nominees and independents are increasingly the battleground.
But the Times/CBS News poll suggested that Ms. Palin’s selection has, to date, helped Mr. McCain only among Republican base voters; there was no evidence of significantly increased support for him among female voters in general. White women are evenly divided between Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama; before the conventions, Mr. McCain led Mr. Obama among white women by a margin of 44 percent to 37 percent.
By contrast, at this point in the 2004 campaign, President Bush was leading Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, the Democratic challenger, by 56 percent to 37 percent among white women.
Dude, this is the beginning of the wave. Did I read that right? McCain lost women with the Palin pick? They really are insulted by the out of touch moron?
I can almost taste the champagne I’m popping Nov. 4th.
White women are evenly divided between Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama; before the conventions, Mr. McCain led Mr. Obama among white women by a margin of 44 percent to 37 percent.
Interesting, but after looking through the PDF of the poll results, I didn’t see anything that would verify these numbers. Did I miss it? Anybody else look at the PDF?
Also, the poll seem to be weighted far too much in favor of Democrats. 39% to 22% for Republicans? Sorry, but it’s not that big a spread.
Nice picture on the day Sarah Palin gets her personal computer hacked in to by left-wingers.
That picture is sexist yesterday, sexist today, and sexist tomorrow.
No no no, it’s that picture is sexist now sexist tomorrow sexist forever… How long do I have to stay an untouchable?
No, no, no, all y’all is just a bunch of whiners.
Dennis – yeah I’m sure it’s the same left wingers who hacked Joe Lieberman’s website…
I’m a stickler for hacker accuracy -
Governor Palin did not get her Personal Computer hacked in the slightest.
She got her free internet mail account she used for government business hacked by folks of unknown political persuasion.
I can personally tell you, hackers like that are like mountain climbers – you hack it because it’s there.
I saw one poll that showed Palin had a net favorability rating of -1. And McCain was not that much better. Pawlenty would not have produced as much of a bounce, but he would not have declined so far so fast.
“Nice picture on the day Sarah Palin gets her personal computer hacked in to by left-wingers.”
Got any evidence for that, or are you lying?
Yes, how dare anyone make fun of an unqualified joke of a candidate like Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin looks like Dwight Schrute in drag
McCain picked someone for Veep that guarantees pro-McCain people will vote for McCain. Now that the convention bounce is gone and done with, he’s realizing he picked somebody that brings nothing to him in terms of the electoral college. However, she’s also a disaster waiting to happen, so they can’t even have her appear anywhere except on FOX News.
Heckuva job, Johnathan Sydney McCain III.
“However, she’s also a disaster waiting to happen, so they can’t even have her appear anywhere except on FOX News.”
How was that Hannity interview?
By the way, McCain was interviewed by a Spanish newspaper and appeared to call Spain an enemy of the United States. The interviewer thinks he just didn’t know who Prime Minster Zapatero was, and I’m inclined to believe that, but it still looks really bad.
Oh noes, teh stupid..it hurtses…
Yahoo doesn’t belong to Sarah Palin, so her private computer wasn’t hacked.
What’s more, there’s no proof that it was done by anyone from the left. It’s entirely possible that someone did it simply because they could.
Although I did hear her computer monitor has white-out all over it.
K, sorry, that was bad but I couldn’t help myself.
What’s more, there’s no proof that it was done by anyone from the left. It’s entirely possible that someone did it simply because they could.
From Malkin’s website: Repeat, this is from another website and not my writing.
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This was written by the hacker at the website that originally posted the information:
I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor… And pictures of her family.
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Now I’ll wait for someone to tell me that hacker could’ve been a McCain supporter pretending to act like a liberal.
And where are all the guys now who whined about invasion of privacy that their grandmother’s phone might be tapped because Bush and Cheney wanted to uncover terrorist plots?
Yes, how dare anyone make fun of an unqualified joke of a candidate like Sarah Palin.
It’s always funny reading this coming from people who support the least qualified and least experienced Presidential candidate in our nation’s history.
Sarah Palin needs to go back to Alaska. It was a fun little novelty when the world wasn’t falling apart. Times changed.
Sarah Palin needs to go back to Alaska. It was a fun little novelty when the world wasn’t falling apart. Times changed.
Problem there, z_adura, is that you can’t make that claim without it applying to the hopelessly inexperienced Obama as well. Obama is at the top of the ticket, not so Palin. People may be cooling a bit now on the Palin ‘bubble’, but when push comes to shove, they have to ask themselves if a rookie quarterback is the right guy to go with in the Super Bowl. You can’t use inexperience in a VP to justify going with inexperience in a President. Just not logical.
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Confirmed Bush hater Donald Trump endorses McCain on Larry King
[...] for the novelty with Palin bounce after the republican convention, that has completely disappeared. Seems that issues took precedence over novelty. The poll was taken during a period of [...]
Lincoln. Kennedy. Go to bed trolls.
McCain doesn’t even know where Spain is.
“It’s always funny reading this coming from people who support the least qualified and least experienced Presidential candidate in our nation’s history.”
I don’t think that is true. I’m quite sure you don’t have the fact necessary to make that claim.
“Confirmed Bush hater Donald Trump endorses McCain on Larry King”
I hope you don’t think Donald Trump has any real political sway.
the least qualified and least experienced Presidential candidate in our nation’s history.
Least qualified AND least experienced of all time? That’s quite a charge Jay. Please explain your reasoning.
I hope you don’t think Donald Trump has any real political sway.
I don’t, but he seems to get a lot of attention in liberal-land when he calls Bush a disaster.
“Confirmed Bush hater Donald Trump endorses McCain on Larry King”
Aw crap. That means we’ve lost the egotistical-millionaires-with-bad-hairpieces vote.
It’s always funny reading this coming from people who support the least qualified and least experienced Presidential candidate in our nation’s history.
Magna Cum Laude at Harvard Law is overrated. Better we should have a legacy appointment to Annapolis who graduated in the bottom one percent of his class.
If you were choosing a physician to care for your mom, would you go with the guy from the top one percent of his class at the most prestigious school in the country, or go with the guy who got in by Affirmative Action and barely graduated?
For your mom.
Does Jay mean after George W. Bush, or what?
Magna Cum Laude at Harvard Law is overrated. Better we should have a legacy appointment to Annapolis who graduated in the bottom one percent of his class.
I’m sorry, are they running for President or class president?
f you were choosing a physician to care for your mom, would you go with the guy from the top one percent of his class at the most prestigious school in the country, or go with the guy who got in by Affirmative Action and barely graduated?
How about:
Would you choose the guy from the top one percent of his class who has no patient history, no referrals, and no peers who can vouch for him or the guy who barely graduated that has had plenty of patients who can speak for how well he did, plenty of referrals and plenty of peers who can vouch for his work?
For your Mom.
Nice picture on the day Sarah Palin gets her personal computer hacked in to by left-wingers.
Isn’t thst S.O.P. with the current Oval Office squatters?
I understand who the first guy is, but who is the second guy? McSame barely graduated and has a track record of being wrong about virtually every diagnosis he has made.
In fairness: I read the full post that the excerpt came from, and it reads as a credible account even though it was posted on Michelle Malkin.
What isn’t reflected in your excerpt is that the pranks and stunts posted to the 4chan site is primarily motivated by lulz. This doesn’t rule out partisan motives, but it’s still ridiculous to equate the work of an individual hacker going into a Yahoo account with full-scale, government-sponsored spying on private citizens.
And your original bit of sarcasm, suggesting that the image posted is insensitive when her “personal computer” got hacked, is still completely nonsensical.
Well that’s more of a response than that bit of whining deserved. On to finding Spain on the map. Can you see it from one of your houses?
If you were choosing a physician to care for your mom, would you go with the guy from the top one percent of his class at the most prestigious school in the country, or go with the guy who got in by Affirmative Action and barely graduated?
Can you seriously contend that you’ve ever called a doctor you were considering and asked what his class rank was?
Do you know the old joke about what you call a doctor who finished last in his class?
Unless you make as much money as Johnathan Sydney McCain III and his booze-heiress wife do, who can really afford to see a doctor any more?
Would you choose the guy from the top one percent of his class who has no patient history, no referrals, and no peers who can vouch for him
I don’t respond to hypothetical red herrings. We’re talking about Obama here, not your strawman. Obama taught constitutional law, and if there is something we need badly, it is someone who understands how the government is supposed to be structured, and has a respect for the limits of government established by The Framers.
Obama has worked IN THE COMMUNITY and grew up in a middle to lower class environment. McCain has been insulated from reality all his life with the exception of five years that do not seem to have made him a better man.
the guy who barely graduated that has had plenty of patients who can speak for how well he did, plenty of referrals and plenty of peers who can vouch for his work?
Another hypothetical, since John McCain is the subject here, not your fictional superhero. Other than losing five Navy planes, cheating on his wife, letting Charles Keating invest his wife’s money, and lying or flip-flopping about virtually everything he talks about, what has McCain actually accomplished?
How did he vote on torture? (Aye) On the GI Bill? (He DIDN’T vote) On campaign finance reform, which even carries his name? (Nay) Invading Iraq? (Aye)
Says he doesn’t know much about economics, so he’ll lean on a guy who wrote the laws that brought down Wall Street, Phil Gramm.
Championed de-regulation in the ’80s that led to the Savings and Loan disaster, then having learned nothing, championed more de-regulation that led to the current crisis. Bragged about his opposition to regulation, until yesterday, when he said we didn’t have enough.
What is McCain’s most significant intellectual accomplishment? What is his most significant accomplishment of any kind that didn’t take place in North Vietnam and didn’t destroy millions of dollars worth of aircraft?
I still say smart guys are better presidents than dumb guys. Do you really want to argue that point?
How about:
Would you choose the guy from the top one percent of his class who has no patient history, no referrals, and no peers who can vouch for him or the guy who barely graduated that has had plenty of patients who can speak for how well he did, plenty of referrals and plenty of peers who can vouch for his work?
Well, let’s see. The guy from the top 1% of his class does infact have patient history, dozens of glowing referrals and boatloads of peers who can vouch for him.
The guy who barely graduated has had plenty of patients and lots of referrals, but a great many of them are not positive ones.
Oh, not to mention patient mortality.
“I don’t, but he seems to get a lot of attention in liberal-land when he calls Bush a disaster.”
Yes, when the Republicans are attacked by a multi-millionaire, or as Bush calls them, his base, then it is a big deal.
It would be like the NCAAP attacking a Democrat for being anti-Black.
When your base turns on you, you have problems. When your base supports you, it’s not noteworthy.
Sorry to tell you this, my friends. It’s cancer.
No it’s not.
Oh, wait, yes it is.
Straight talk, my friends. Your health is strong.
No, no, wait. Your health is at risk.
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“I’m sorry, are they running for President or class president?”
That’s right, Jay, education and ability is meaningless when determining who would be the better President.
“How about:
Would you choose the guy from the top one percent of his class who has no patient history, no referrals, and no peers who can vouch for him or the guy who barely graduated that has had plenty of patients who can speak for how well he did, plenty of referrals and plenty of peers who can vouch for his work?
For your Mom.”
Two points…
1.) Nice appeal to emotions. It is a clear sign you have to facts to back up your argument.
2.) Your analogy is faulty, because McCain doesn’t have the credentials you think he has.
And as a bonus…
3.) The “For your Mom.” part sounds like a set up for some tasteless MILF jokes.
Additionally, using your analogy… Would you choose the doctor that is 72 years old and is at least a decade past his prime? And being president is more challenging than being a doctor, because you have to keep it up for 4 years, and if you can’t, the transition is a lot worse than switching doctors.
“Unless you make as much money as Johnathan Sydney McCain III and his booze-heiress wife do, who can really afford to see a doctor any more?”
Canadians!
It would be like the NCAAP attacking a Democrat for being anti-Black.
Or, to paraphrase bill Maher, it’s like being called a douchebag by Andy Dick.
Would you choose the doctor that is 72 years old and is at least a decade past his prime?
I would rather have a doctor who actively listens to me and gives a shit about my problems. And will work with me to fix them.
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