Links for September 16th from 02:36 to 02:52:
- Hockey Moms Against Sarah Palin –
- Creamery Case Has Palin Critics Taking Aim at Fiscal-Conservative Claim –
- New York Allows A.I.G. to Lend Itself Money –
- Megan Fox GQ Slideshow – I can do without the tats.
- Megan Fox Opens Up About Lesbian Fling – The most important story of our time.
- The Ugly New McCain –
- Pathological Liar Watch: False Tales Of TelePrompter Bravery –
- Palin won't meet with 'Troopergate' investigator – That's not change we can believe in.
- Obama Ad Hits McCain on Equal Pay –
- Democrats eat into McCain's lead as Palin's halo starts to slip –
The tide is turning. I don’t know one woman that likes Palin. I sort of like her Tina Fey imitation.
The tide is not turning where it counts, datadave, as interesting as your anecdotal polling is.
O-H-I-O: TRUST DRIVING 4 PERCENT MCCAIN LEAD IN BUCKEYE STATE
Asked which of the four candidates is “most like you,” 31 percent said Palin, followed by Obama (22 percent), McCain (21 percent), and Biden (13 percent).
‘Most like you’. In the one state that has historically proven to have voting patterns most indicative of America as a whole.
Keep bashing Sarah. Americans just love that.
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OW- Loved the hockey moms ad. I thought it was serious at first and that I was watching a really bad SNL skit.
What’s the difference between a pitbull and a hockey mom?
A pitbull can get a degree by attending only three or four colleges.
A pitbull would answer a subpoena, because a pitbull isn’t afraid of a confrontation.
A pitbull can’t see Russia from here.
“Keep bashing Sarah. Americans just love that.”
I’m sick of this sentiment. I watched some asshat from the Wall Street Journal repeat it over and over on Real Time with Bill Maher last week. For one, Palin is a politician, just like any other politician, except that unlike most, she has tits. Good for her. Having tits shouldn’t preclude her from the same meat grinder that all politicians have to go through.
Secondly, and more importantly, I have to critique the use of the word “bashing” here. She’s a fucking wacko. Calling her a fucking wacko because she doesn’t support abortion in cases of rape or incest or because she shoots wolves from low-flying planes with high-powered rifles isn’t “bashing” her.
Oh, does ANYONE out there besides me find Megan Fox physically unappealing? I feel like I’m all alone on this issue…
Apparently McCain helped create the Blackberry.
Is there nothing that campaign won’t lie about?
Calling her a fucking wacko because she doesn’t support abortion in cases of rape or incest or because she shoots wolves from low-flying planes with high-powered rifles isn’t “bashing” her.
mambochicken
It is bashing her. Especially when the first statement is not entirely accurate, and the second one is patently false. Sarah Palin has made no legislative decisions regarding abortion, pro or con. She has an opinion. Everyone has one of those. She doesn’t engage in the practice of shooting wolves from airplanes herself. So bottom line, you don’t know what you are talking about, nor do you seek to know the full story. You print only what you have read, and only what you want to believe about a person. If that’s not bashing, I don’t know what bashing is.
In any event, please don’t let me stop your whatever it is you don’t consider bashing.
John Fund on Bill Maher was correct. It is why you lose. Janeane Garfolo and Roseanne Barr probably made you very happy, but they’re hatred at all things Republican and their lack of ability to make clear, concise and correct arguments without fomenting at the mouth only drove Fund’s point home for anyone watching with an objective viewpoint.
McCain’s response to Obama ad on Equal Pay:
Notice how no titles are given, just an overall average for the entire office. I would not be at all surprised to find that McCain is comparing senior people in his office to junior folks in Obama’s.
Dennis: Asked which of the four candidates is “most like you,” 31 percent said Palin, followed by Obama (22 percent), McCain (21 percent), and Biden (13 percent).
Yeah. We’ve already got the president most people would like to have a beer with. How’s that workin’ out for ya?
mambochicken23: Oh, does ANYONE out there besides me find Megan Fox physically unappealing?
Not unappealing, no. But I don’t see what all the extra fuss is about. But then, I really don’t get the whole Jessica Alba thing either…..
“Keep bashing Sarah. Americans just love that.”
Shorter: We can dish it out but we can’t take it.
John Fund on Bill Maher was correct. It is why you lose. Janeane Garfolo and Roseanne Barr probably made you very happy, but they’re hatred at all things Republican and their lack of ability to make clear, concise and correct arguments without fomenting at the mouth only drove Fund’s point home for anyone watching with an objective viewpoint.
This is truly remarkable.
Here we have a commenter who tells us that “bashing” Sarah Palin drives up support for the Republican ticket. “Keep bashing Sarah. Americans just love that,” he tells us. “It is why you lose,” he says.
The commenter has announced a direct cause-and-effect relationship: “Liberals” bash the conservative candidate, voters react by voting for the conservative candidate. Actual positions and policies? Not part of the equation. “Bashing” = more votes, it’s that simple. It seems that our commenter believes that many people decide how to vote not by what is best for the country, but by choosing whoever “liberals” don’t like.
But that’s not the part I find remarkable. What’s really astounding is this: “Janeane Garfolo and Roseanne Barr probably made you very happy, but they’re [sic] hatred at all things Republican and their lack of ability to make clear, concise and correct arguments without fomenting [sic] at the mouth only drove Fund’s point home for anyone watching with an objective viewpoint.”
“Anyone with an objective viewpoint”? I don’t doubt that there are people who cast their ballots out of spite for liberals, but calling that “an objective viewpoint” is loony.
If her opinion is that abortion is wrong, even in cases of rape or incest, she’s still a fucking wacko, regardless of whether she’s made any legislative decisions regarding the matter. I’d rather have someone in office whose opinion isn’t crazy-talk. I’ll be more assured that they won’t, ultimately, try to eliminate choice from women.
Apologies for my original post re: Palin shooting wolves from planes. She only SUPPORTS the practice. My fault. This doesn’t change anything though. Her supporting that practice is self-evidently fucking crazy.
“You print only what you have read”
I do my research, buddy. And yes, I am criticizing her for things that I have (gasp! the horror!) read about her. On what other basis should I critique her on? Maybe her own words? OK, done. “I guess that being a small-town mayor is kind of like being a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities.” Fuck her.
“So bottom line, you don’t know what you are talking about, nor do you seek to know the full story”
I would LOVE to know the full story. You want to fill me in, because I am apparently so uneducated and clueless? I’m a fucking scientist, man, my JOB is to make conclusions based on the available data. But hey, don’t let me stop you from believing what you want to believe about me.
For the record, I thought that Roseanne was inarticulate and not particularly interesting. Janeane Garofalo was great. As Bill Maher pointed out, there’s a difference in what is politically expedient and what is truth. I’m talking about truth here. Fund is a complete horse’s ass, trying to claim that he wouldn’t know what the Bush Doctrine was either (in defense of Palin). Fuck that guy, too.
It’s a good thing Republican officials and conservative commentators never bash Democrats.
fomenting at the mouth
That’s awesome.
John fund’s response was more of a “LALALALA! I CAN’T HEAR YOU! LALALAL!” than anything else.
“It’s a good thing Republican officials and conservative commentators never bash Democrats.”
If the media would spend as much time talking about Republican lies and hypocrisy as they did about Edwards haircut, we would never have another Republican president, ever.
They would literally have to let the party die and form a new one.
“So bottom line, you don’t know what you are talking about, nor do you seek to know the full story”
Love to get the full story. Too bad Tundra Barbie is not forthcoming with information and is refusing a subpoena. Kinda like some other VP I’ve heard of.
Duros, that was awesome.
I don’t know if she’s crazy or just a zealot. She believes abortion is wrong even in cases of Rape or incest. It’s something I don’t agree with but I don’t think that’s a crazy position. She also believes in faith healing. It doesn’t agree with my view on religion, is it crazy? I don’t know. She believes in speaking in tongues. Is it religious ecstasy beyond my comprehension or just crazy? It seems crazy.
But it comes down to opinion. In my opinion she’s an extreme religious zealot. Am I willing to label her as crazy? No. Just unfit.
Please tell one Democratic VP candidate that has garnered to obsessive criticism that Sarah Palin has.
John Edwards? No
Joe Lieberman? No
Al Gore as VP? No
G. Ferraro? No, not even close.
Mondale? No
Lloyd Bentsen? No
I’ll keep going if you’d like, and I’ll concede that this woman just entered the scene, to you anyway, not to us. Even still, you cannot stop posting about her, nor can any liberal blogs, not the NY Times, not the WaPo, not the cable stations, not the MSM, not every liberal pundit, not Team Obama.
Republicans don’t generally waste their time digging up dirt on the VP candidate for a reason. They don’t report on hearsay about VP candidates usually, not with the same fervor done to Palin. And if they did and were faced with the reality that all the polls are telling them that the strategy was backfiring like they are with Palin now, you can be damn sure they would cease and desist and come up with an alternative strategy. As it is, the obsession with by the Left only grows with each passing day.
Tanning bed. Oy. It somewhat saddens me to see you guys digging your own grave when the election was handed to you on a silver platter and laid right at your feet by the Republican party.
Dennis, now find a democratic VP candidate who was as unknown as Sarah Palin. Then find one that was unvetted by the campaign like Palin was. Next, find one as unqualified as Palin. Then contrast the negatives you are compalining about with the ridiculous and false claims trying to bolster her as the VP choice.
Please tell one Democratic VP candidate that has garnered to obsessive criticism that Sarah Palin has… No… No… No…
First, you’re wrong.
Second, even if you were right, perhaps it’s because she’s so exceedingly unqualified to be VP. I.e., perhaps it’s because she deserves to be bashed.
Republicans don’t generally waste their time digging up dirt on the VP candidate for a reason.
Well, that’s bullshit.
And if they did and were faced with the reality that all the polls are telling them that the strategy was backfiring like they are with Palin now, you can be damn sure they would cease and desist and come up with an alternative strategy.
So is that. Willie Horton. Dukakis in a tank. Edward’s haricuts. Gore invented the internet and was the dude in Love Story. John Kerry windsurfs. Blahblahblah.
Look, perhaps the reason everybody is obsessing about her is that she’s an unknown entity. Everybody else on your list are or were pretty well known within the political and media circles. This woman is a blank.
and the more we find out about her, even anecdotally, the more unqualified for VP she becomes.
Duros-
Willie Horton was no relection on Mondale. Dukakis was the Pres. candidate, genius. Edwards… haircut, ok, criticism and making fun of a douchebag, but you couldn’t make any case whatsoever that he got anywhere close to the scrutiny as Palin. If you had Lexus.Nexis you could prove that for yourself since you’d never believe me. Pull up memeorandum.com every once in a while and see for yourself how many articles are about Sarah America, mostly against. Tell me if Edwards had all kinds of shit made up about him, then when they were debunked, scant few retractions.
Gore invented the internet and the Love Story fabrication- not brought up until he ran for President and blew a sure thing.
Kerry- windsurfer. Again, President.
Yeah, Palin’s an unknown entity. Doesn’t excuse making shit up and repeating rumors that deny credibility. Daily Kos promotes lying about her (Why not, that’s what the Swiftboaters did is their logic).
Blank women in politics at the governor level don’t receive 80% approval ratings and the commendations of her opposition the way Palin has as governor of Alaska. Somehow that little tidbit of information always escapes the liberal objective talking points.
Saw a magazine at the supermarket this morning that read “Palin-tology,” with a picture of the governor with a gun over her shoulder. She reminds me a bit of those parts in the movies where the masked/helmeted athlete/ninja/whatever has their cover torn away dramatically and GASP! IT’S A WOMAN!
Dennis, some liberal blogs telling tall tales about the Governor does not a smear-fest make. Nor, by the way, does the media asking legitimate questions and actually calling the campaign on it when they lie, like this bit about her state ‘being in charge of 20% of the country’s energy supply.’
Dennis: and see for yourself how many articles are about Sarah America, mostly against.
Again, ask yourself why that is. Might is be because she is woefully unqualified to be VP?
See how many articles there are online about Bin Laden or Saddam. Yeah, Godwin’s Law is nipping at my heals here, but the point remains: A lot of articles AGAINST someone might just indicate that they are an objectionable person, and NOT that they are being unfairly picked on.
Parthenon- Fair point, although the word lie is used way too much in this campaign and especially in blogtopia. And I disagree that it is only liberal blogs that are the ones doing the smearing, or telling tall tales. If one thought that they aren’t paying attention.
Just fyi. Republicans are not attacking Biden for a reason.
Here’s why.
I would hope no one would argue with me that there is not plenty of material to do it if anyone on the Rep. side thought it was the right strategy.
Someone please show me any poll aside from a Daily Kos poll that proved that attacking Palin 24/7 was paying off.
the word lie is used way too much in this campaign and especially in blogtopia.
I agree that the word “lie” has been used more during this campaign than in many others. You neglect to posit a reason for the frequency of it’s use.
I think it’s because John McCain and Sarah Palin have been telling so many of them.
We can certainly agree that that spate of Palin family stories that came out just after they announced her candidacy was not our media’s proudest moment. That stuff is always narsty and never relevant, be the candidate Sarah Palin, John Edwards, John McCain or Bill Clinton.
The ‘lie’ word has a lot of charge behind it, and ought to be reserved for obviously deliberate deception. However, speaking as objectively as I can, I’m not sure how anyone could argue that the McCain campaign hasn’t engaged in some of that recently.
Funny you should ask Dennis. Newsweek has a story about Palin’s numbers falling in the DIAGEO tracking polls. -4 pts in favorable opinion in 2 days and a 6 pt rise in unfavorable.