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		<title>By: callingoutmccain</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115392</link>
		<dc:creator>callingoutmccain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John McCain is an experienced professional liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain is an experienced professional liar.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115282</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Projection: It&#039;s what&#039;s for dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Projection: It&#8217;s what&#8217;s for dinner.</p>
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		<title>By: show</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115146</link>
		<dc:creator>show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to think obama is blamed as a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to think obama is blamed as a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115088</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Mittens, the sun is rising in the west now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Mittens, the sun is rising in the west now.</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115080</link>
		<dc:creator>Repack Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain would lie about which direction is west or what day of the week it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain would lie about which direction is west or what day of the week it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115068</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gravypan: &lt;i&gt;you sure seem to be throwing more than your normal amount of BS up against the wall to see if it sticks.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah.  It&#039;s really unbelievable how folks will actually call McCain and Co on thier BS.  Don&#039;t the Dems know that that isn&#039;t how they&#039;re supposed to play the game?  Shame on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravypan: <i>you sure seem to be throwing more than your normal amount of BS up against the wall to see if it sticks.</i></p>
<p>Yeah.  It&#8217;s really unbelievable how folks will actually call McCain and Co on thier BS.  Don&#8217;t the Dems know that that isn&#8217;t how they&#8217;re supposed to play the game?  Shame on them.</p>
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		<title>By: ursulas</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115058</link>
		<dc:creator>ursulas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Caribou Barbie is in Carson City today. People are already lining up for an area that can hold 2,000. The Nevada GOP is saying there will be 10,000 in attendance.

See how the game is played?

I&#039;ve never seen any Obama campaign rally making predictions in advance like that when he&#039;s been here.

McCain - lying daily to get his hands that can&#039;t keyboard on that red button in the Oval Office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Caribou Barbie is in Carson City today. People are already lining up for an area that can hold 2,000. The Nevada GOP is saying there will be 10,000 in attendance.</p>
<p>See how the game is played?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen any Obama campaign rally making predictions in advance like that when he&#8217;s been here.</p>
<p>McCain &#8211; lying daily to get his hands that can&#8217;t keyboard on that red button in the Oval Office.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115055</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly more on topic, 15,000 seems like an enormous discrepancy between estimates. Could the journalist have estimated it at about a third its actual size? Seems more likely to me that, if anything, the campaign high-balled it and the journalist kinda low-balled it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly more on topic, 15,000 seems like an enormous discrepancy between estimates. Could the journalist have estimated it at about a third its actual size? Seems more likely to me that, if anything, the campaign high-balled it and the journalist kinda low-balled it.</p>
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		<title>By: C.S.Strowbridge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115054</link>
		<dc:creator>C.S.Strowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I mean really. This what you’re reduced to at this point? Disputing crowd sizes? &quot;

If they lie about this, they will lie about anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I mean really. This what you’re reduced to at this point? Disputing crowd sizes? &#8221;</p>
<p>If they lie about this, they will lie about anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115052</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Talk about a sinking ship.&lt;/i&gt;

Sen. McCain made the impressive (in terms of sheer chutzpah, at least) claim the other day that the Governor knows more about energy policy than just about anybody in the country. Combine that with the last week or so of straight personality politics, and I&#039;m skeptical as to whose hull is in more trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Talk about a sinking ship.</i></p>
<p>Sen. McCain made the impressive (in terms of sheer chutzpah, at least) claim the other day that the Governor knows more about energy policy than just about anybody in the country. Combine that with the last week or so of straight personality politics, and I&#8217;m skeptical as to whose hull is in more trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: essrog</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115051</link>
		<dc:creator>essrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the police really came up with the number, why did the McCain campaign falsely attribute the number to the fire marshall&#039;s office? 

Is it more of the same incompetence? Could be, but it&#039;s more likely they&#039;re just used to lying</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the police really came up with the number, why did the McCain campaign falsely attribute the number to the fire marshall&#8217;s office? </p>
<p>Is it more of the same incompetence? Could be, but it&#8217;s more likely they&#8217;re just used to lying</p>
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		<title>By: jr</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115049</link>
		<dc:creator>jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;McCain had to lie about crowd size because he was a POW&quot;-Jonah Goldberg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;McCain had to lie about crowd size because he was a POW&#8221;-Jonah Goldberg</p>
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		<title>By: Gravypan</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115048</link>
		<dc:creator>Gravypan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next, Oliver will claim that John McCain&#039;s penis size isn&#039;t what he claims.

Jesus, for somebody who is so confident in the outcome, you sure seem to be throwing more than your normal amount of BS up against the wall to see if it sticks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next, Oliver will claim that John McCain&#8217;s penis size isn&#8217;t what he claims.</p>
<p>Jesus, for somebody who is so confident in the outcome, you sure seem to be throwing more than your normal amount of BS up against the wall to see if it sticks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115047</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fire marshal did not say the &quot;number didn&#039;t jibe.&quot; He merely said that they don&#039;t do those estimates. I&#039;ve read several articles that cite the police estimating the crowd size to be 20K . I guess the police are lying as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fire marshal did not say the &#8220;number didn&#8217;t jibe.&#8221; He merely said that they don&#8217;t do those estimates. I&#8217;ve read several articles that cite the police estimating the crowd size to be 20K . I guess the police are lying as well.</p>
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		<title>By: essrog</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115046</link>
		<dc:creator>essrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean really. This is what McCain&#039;s campaign is reduced to at this point: lying about crowd sizes.

Talk about a sinking ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean really. This is what McCain&#8217;s campaign is reduced to at this point: lying about crowd sizes.</p>
<p>Talk about a sinking ship.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/13/mccainpalin-lying-about-crowd-sizes/#comment-115045</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 23,000 comes from McCain, who cited the fire marshall who says that number didn&#039;t jibe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 23,000 comes from McCain, who cited the fire marshall who says that number didn&#8217;t jibe.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;n a story on Sept. 11 about Palin’s attraction for some Virginia women voters, Washington Post reporter Marc Fisher estimated the crowd to be 8,000, not the 23,000 cited by the campaign.&lt;/i&gt;

Amazing how they leave out what the rest of what Fisher said:

&lt;i&gt;The crowd, which I counted at 8,000 &lt;b&gt;but which police estimated at 23,000&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/09/11/ST2008091101260.html

I mean really. This what you&#039;re reduced to at this point? Disputing crowd sizes? 

Talk about a sinking ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>n a story on Sept. 11 about Palin’s attraction for some Virginia women voters, Washington Post reporter Marc Fisher estimated the crowd to be 8,000, not the 23,000 cited by the campaign.</i></p>
<p>Amazing how they leave out what the rest of what Fisher said:</p>
<p><i>The crowd, which I counted at 8,000 <b>but which police estimated at 23,000</b></i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/09/11/ST2008091101260.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/09/11/ST2008091101260.html</a></p>
<p>I mean really. This what you&#8217;re reduced to at this point? Disputing crowd sizes? </p>
<p>Talk about a sinking ship.</p>
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