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		<title>By: The Reality-Based Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114929</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reality-Based Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SF defending his opinion:
&quot;A second senior American official said that the Pakistani government had privately assented...&quot;

aka:
&quot;An unknown person working for Bush said that one un-named person that supposedly works in the Pakistani government was told that...&quot;

Wingnut logic at its finest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SF defending his opinion:<br />
&#8220;A second senior American official said that the Pakistani government had privately assented&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>aka:<br />
&#8220;An unknown person working for Bush said that one un-named person that supposedly works in the Pakistani government was told that&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Wingnut logic at its finest!</p>
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		<title>By: KXB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114669</link>
		<dc:creator>KXB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’d pay good money to watch those two play poker.&quot;

He&#039;d have to first get permission from Cindy - she is not one to fool around with her money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d pay good money to watch those two play poker.&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;d have to first get permission from Cindy &#8211; she is not one to fool around with her money.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114666</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d pay good money to watch those two play poker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d pay good money to watch those two play poker.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114658</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/09/11/are-they-experienced-by-john-ostrander/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Are They Experienced?&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;... presidential candidate Barack Obama and presidential candidate John McCain were asked which was their favorite games of chance. Obama replied “poker” and McCain replied “craps.” Glenn and I both found these choices telling, especially with McCain’s recent choice of Sarah Palin as his running-mate which certainly qualifies as something of a crapshoot.

Poker involves a lot of different elements: reading the other player, calculating the odds based on the cards played and the cards you hold and, as the song says, knowing when to hold ‘em and knowing when to fold ‘em. You need to think. Craps counts on luck and your gut feeling. You do your ritual, roll the dice, and hope.

... We’ve had almost eight years of someone who trusted his gut and rolled the dice and the country has come up craps. We’re neck deep in it. It’s time for a poker player – someone with intelligence and skill.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/09/11/are-they-experienced-by-john-ostrander/" rel="nofollow">Are They Experienced?</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; presidential candidate Barack Obama and presidential candidate John McCain were asked which was their favorite games of chance. Obama replied “poker” and McCain replied “craps.” Glenn and I both found these choices telling, especially with McCain’s recent choice of Sarah Palin as his running-mate which certainly qualifies as something of a crapshoot.</p>
<p>Poker involves a lot of different elements: reading the other player, calculating the odds based on the cards played and the cards you hold and, as the song says, knowing when to hold ‘em and knowing when to fold ‘em. You need to think. Craps counts on luck and your gut feeling. You do your ritual, roll the dice, and hope.</p>
<p>&#8230; We’ve had almost eight years of someone who trusted his gut and rolled the dice and the country has come up craps. We’re neck deep in it. It’s time for a poker player – someone with intelligence and skill.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: JewishAtheist</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114649</link>
		<dc:creator>JewishAtheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I linked to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I linked to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114647</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;while Palin back in Alaska getting programmed for her “interview” with ABC.&lt;/i&gt;

To be fair, there&#039;s a lot of code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>while Palin back in Alaska getting programmed for her “interview” with ABC.</i></p>
<p>To be fair, there&#8217;s a lot of code.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114646</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, you J&#039;s. Where is the outrage about invading a sovereign nation? Don&#039;t leave us hanging like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, you J&#8217;s. Where is the outrage about invading a sovereign nation? Don&#8217;t leave us hanging like this.</p>
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		<title>By: KXB</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114645</link>
		<dc:creator>KXB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That is the exact opposite of Obama’s policy.&quot;

Are they reviving Short Attention Span Theater?  Obama has repeatedly stated that he would first encourage greater cooperation with Pakistan.  However, if that cooperation is not forthcoming, he would reserve the right to undertake the measures that Bush has just approved.  Obama never said he would leave Pakistan out of this.

BTW, how is Senator Gigolo supposed to campaign with Palin not at his side?  He got booed pretty well in Philly while Palin back in Alaska getting programmed for her &quot;interview&quot; with ABC.  So he owes his political career to his wife&#039;s money and has improved chances at the White House to another woman.  Yeah, that says &quot;maverick&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That is the exact opposite of Obama’s policy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are they reviving Short Attention Span Theater?  Obama has repeatedly stated that he would first encourage greater cooperation with Pakistan.  However, if that cooperation is not forthcoming, he would reserve the right to undertake the measures that Bush has just approved.  Obama never said he would leave Pakistan out of this.</p>
<p>BTW, how is Senator Gigolo supposed to campaign with Palin not at his side?  He got booed pretty well in Philly while Palin back in Alaska getting programmed for her &#8220;interview&#8221; with ABC.  So he owes his political career to his wife&#8217;s money and has improved chances at the White House to another woman.  Yeah, that says &#8220;maverick&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: essrog</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114642</link>
		<dc:creator>essrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why you needed to quote an additional paragraph to project your own information into a passage which doesn&#039;t back up your assertion at all.

&quot;Privately assenting to a general concept&quot; is not carte blanche permission for all attacks.

Further, the orders are that the missions would be carried out without seeking permission. This doesn&#039;t mean that permission is already implied, it means that Pakistan&#039;s approval in the matter is irrelevant.

Go ahead and quote the whole article - Bush is still apparently following Obama&#039;s lead. Once McCain is done musing about the Iraq/Pakistan border maybe he can give this one a shot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why you needed to quote an additional paragraph to project your own information into a passage which doesn&#8217;t back up your assertion at all.</p>
<p>&#8220;Privately assenting to a general concept&#8221; is not carte blanche permission for all attacks.</p>
<p>Further, the orders are that the missions would be carried out without seeking permission. This doesn&#8217;t mean that permission is already implied, it means that Pakistan&#8217;s approval in the matter is irrelevant.</p>
<p>Go ahead and quote the whole article &#8211; Bush is still apparently following Obama&#8217;s lead. Once McCain is done musing about the Iraq/Pakistan border maybe he can give this one a shot</p>
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		<title>By: jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully he&#039;ll embrace science soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully he&#8217;ll embrace science soon</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114639</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh, and thanks New York Times for giving Osama the heads up. &lt;/i&gt;

OK, you&#039;ve covered your ass. Now watch this drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oh, and thanks New York Times for giving Osama the heads up. </i></p>
<p>OK, you&#8217;ve covered your ass. Now watch this drive.</p>
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		<title>By: J. McCain</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114638</link>
		<dc:creator>J. McCain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s naive and irresponsible of the Bush Administration, which I&#039;ve always hated as much as I&#039;ve always hated The Media, by the way. 

Now I have a plan to find Bin Laden and win the wars because I do. But I&#039;m not going to tell you the secret unless and until I&#039;m President. Because with me it&#039;s always Country First.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s naive and irresponsible of the Bush Administration, which I&#8217;ve always hated as much as I&#8217;ve always hated The Media, by the way. </p>
<p>Now I have a plan to find Bin Laden and win the wars because I do. But I&#8217;m not going to tell you the secret unless and until I&#8217;m President. Because with me it&#8217;s always Country First.</p>
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		<title>By: August J. Pollak</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114636</link>
		<dc:creator>August J. Pollak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh, and thanks New York Times for giving Osama the heads up. &lt;/i&gt;

Well at least Farris admits that it would be a surprise to say we&#039;re actually looking for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oh, and thanks New York Times for giving Osama the heads up. </i></p>
<p>Well at least Farris admits that it would be a surprise to say we&#8217;re actually looking for him.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2008/09/11/bush-follows-the-obama-doctrine/#comment-114634</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys don&#039;t read very far past the headline, do you?

&lt;blockquote&gt;A second senior American official said that the Pakistani government had privately assented to the general concept of limited ground assaults by Special Operations forces against significant militant targets, but that it did not approve each mission.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In other words, they gave us permission on a carte blanche basis so we wouldn&#039;t have to get operational approval every time to avoid any details slipping out.  THEY GAVE US PERMISSION.

That is the exact opposite of Obama&#039;s policy.

Oh, and thanks New York Times for giving Osama the heads up.  On 9/11, no less.  Stay classy, Pinch...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys don&#8217;t read very far past the headline, do you?</p>
<blockquote><p>A second senior American official said that the Pakistani government had privately assented to the general concept of limited ground assaults by Special Operations forces against significant militant targets, but that it did not approve each mission.</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, they gave us permission on a carte blanche basis so we wouldn&#8217;t have to get operational approval every time to avoid any details slipping out.  THEY GAVE US PERMISSION.</p>
<p>That is the exact opposite of Obama&#8217;s policy.</p>
<p>Oh, and thanks New York Times for giving Osama the heads up.  On 9/11, no less.  Stay classy, Pinch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lover of jazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>lover of jazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s almost funny. is bush trying to undermine obama or mccain here? let&#039;s not forgot the bushies recent conversion to the acceptance of a timeline for troop withdrawal in iraq as well. yeesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s almost funny. is bush trying to undermine obama or mccain here? let&#8217;s not forgot the bushies recent conversion to the acceptance of a timeline for troop withdrawal in iraq as well. yeesh.</p>
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